As I said, post here any suggestion you have or ways we can improve this championship
-Riders Level
As one of the slower riders I think we should not keep only the fastest guys around. Not everyone can be a Marquez.
I enjoy racing as much as the other guys and just because someone isn't as fast as you doesn't mean he can/should not race.
Besides, there are blue flags for a reason.
Quote from: Boerenlater on February 09, 2015, 02:56:33 PM
-Riders Level
As one of the slower riders I think we should not keep only the fastest guys around. Not everyone can be a Marquez.
I enjoy racing as much as the other guys and just because someone isn't as fast as you doesn't mean he can/should not race.
Besides, there are blue flags for a reason.
totally agree, I think anyone should participate no matter his level. He only needs to keep the eye if other faster riders are next to him and try not to harm them
my suggestion for m3 champ are:
.max 20 riders + 4 wild card (parameter connection and seriousness)
.new mod moto 3 (fixed shift down and front)
.verify core on all track
I am totaly agree whit you guys.
It's difficult to say at the guys you don't participate because you are a bad riders.
We was all before a bad rider ;)
But just becarrefull at the blue flag and becarrefull before reapparate on the track.
With the new version GPB it's difficult reapparate on good situation.
After it's possible maybe Loopateli to pu the rule 107% on the better time.
Yesterday the track was not very large egaly.
But for me the more important is work on the setup and physic bike.
For to have a better grip.
I am really ok for help the team spanish on this problem for tested the moto bike and look what is the problem.
Yesterdar after the race I have tested on the track Quatar.
And I have lokk with the tyre medium it's not possible to incline the motobike more 60° approximatly.
With the Hard tyre it's possible to increase the inclineason at 65°.
I want help for to have the same grip and the same tyre front off on the MOD MOTO2 for example.
For to have a race very funny and lost the race because I have an error on my ride.
I also thought the rule was 107%, because after the difference is too large between the fastest and slowest.
we should find a solution for motorcycles that reappear on the track after a fall (like beta5 or the bike appear on the edge of the track after the fall)
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Quote from: yan24 on February 09, 2015, 07:25:21 PM
I also thought the rule was 107%, because after the difference is too large between the fastest and slowest.
we should find a solution for motorcycles that reappear on the track after a fall (like beta5 or the bike appear on the edge of the track after the fall)
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Someone(Sorry I can't remember who you were at this time) suggested in the "Suggestions and Wishlist" thread that it would be a good idea to Respawn as a ghost bike until your back up to speed to save anyone crashing into you. I think that is a great idea. ;D
Either that or go back to respawning just off the side of the track surface? But how would that work if you had a road race track section with a wall or a line of hedging just at the place you got respwned? Could be a trickier problem to sort out than we realise. :)
The 107% rule would be the best way to determine competitors for any race event. But at the same time it would be good to hold events for the poor slower guys who'd love to race and gain race experience who didn't qualify for a particular event. Maybe a B-Class event held at the same time on a separate server, like Arvoss did for the Red Bull Rookies Champs. This would be good for them because then they'd be racing against similar speed competitors. :)
Hawk.
Quote from: hezio on February 09, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
I am totaly agree whit you guys.
It's difficult to say at the guys you don't participate because you are a bad riders.
We was all before a bad rider ;)
But just becarrefull at the blue flag and becarrefull before reapparate on the track.
With the new version GPB it's difficult reapparate on good situation.
After it's possible maybe Loopateli to pu the rule 107% on the better time.
Yesterday the track was not very large egaly.
But for me the more important is work on the setup and physic bike.
For to have a better grip.
I am really ok for help the team spanish on this problem for tested the moto bike and look what is the problem.
Yesterday after the race I tested on the track Quatar.
And I have lokk with the tyre medium it's not possible to incline the motobike more 60° approximatly.
With the Hard tyre it's possible to increase the inclineason at 65°.
I want help for to have the same grip and the same tyre front off on the MOD MOTO2 for example.
For to have a race very funny and lost the race because I have an error on my ride.
Is that the same for the real bike? Or does the GPB Moto3 bike MOD still need tweaking and finalizing? Also is this difference the same for all the Moto 3 MOD Bikes?
No wonder some of you guys were faster!! Hehe (Just joking. Lol) ;D
Hawk.
what we would like to do is put the 107% or 104%.
And all pilots give a minimum of 50 laps.
The problem is that we do not Hotlaps system as it has Alibaskins.
But it would make hotlaps estimate the 107% and also count the number of laps completed that gave each pilot
The 107% made in the actual championships, and I think it is 104%. This alone will force pilots to try harder and try to improve lap times.
And what of the minimum laps, so we ensure that pilots have enough laps to be more regularly
The problem of comebacks track is PIBOSO thing we can not do anything about, like CORE.EXE and Jump Starts. PIBOSO should fix these problems as soon as possible.
The problem with the front wheel, the moto3 is the bike that has more grip on the front wheel, but the problem we have is that it is also the one most inclined, therefore, why we fall. A real moto3 not inclined 60th, but we turn the joystick to the maximum in all curves, so the front wheel is closed and we fall. The falls are not for lack of grip on the front wheel, are more inclined because of what we should
An example of a community Hotlaps rFactor2
http://sre.simracing.es/hotlaps/hl2.php?data=Wore6cstlxAl8%2FIgGd9WWvr0XySb9VSEFZqzSPAlm3WuaKN8YPSZ8K0stVRbru%2Fc375NRN2MXZ0%3D
-The riders who are in black, have exceeded the minimum 50 laps and cutting time 104%
-The riders who are in Blue, have timed cut 104%, but have not exceeded the minimum 50 laps.
-The riders who are in red, have not timed cut 104%
This could be done the same in the GPB?
Why don't you just do a time-limited qualifying session, as per the pre-race qualifying session that decides a race grid? eg: set the qualifying to 3hrs on the server for a certain date at a particular time, and the top 24 riders from that will qualify for riding in the Championship? The same as is done before a race to decide the grid positions....
To have to ride 50 laps is in my opinion too much just to qualify. especially if your one of the slower riders that wants to give it a try but thinks they will probably not make qualification. Also I would like the option: Say after 25 laps to know myself that I couldn't do any better to qualify and end it there for me and not have to continue until the 50 laps were completed.
Hawk.
GRT runs a league with 2 seperate lobby's.. Tier 1 and tier 2..
Tier 1 has a full points system. Tier 2 has half points.
The bottom 4 finishers from tier 1 are relagated to tier 2 for the next race and top 4 from tier 2 are promoted.. Works well!
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on February 09, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
GRT runs a league with 2 seperate lobby's.. Tier 1 and tier 2..
Tier 1 has a full points system. Tier 2 has half points.
The bottom 4 finishers from tier 1 are relagated to tier 2 for the next race and top 4 from tier 2 are promoted.. Works well!
I like this system ;)
The best for me is :
To continu the Hot Lap for selctionned the rider.
And the guys in the rule 107% race A
And the guys less race B
The better guys in Race B for next Race in Race A
And the bad rider in Race go in Race B the next race.
Proposition by Bobr6 84
Whit this system it's possible to continu at play whit a best level or bad level and you progress with an other rider with same level.
It's very good.
And for the qualification it's not an obligation to take the track very long time.
All the guys have no time the play very long time per day.
With this rule it's the rider who choice.
I wish there was a way to run races threw the week to help me make sure i know what im doing before a race. I missed out on the this race [A1 ring} because i was in the garage. A mock run would be fun just to make sure i know what im doing so all my hardwork doesnt go to waste like yesterday.
Quote from: GreekChief on February 09, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
I wish there was a way to run races threw the week to help me make sure i know what im doing before a race. I missed out on the this race [A1 ring} because i was in the garage. A mock run would be fun just to make sure i know what im doing so all my hardwork doesnt go to waste like yesterday.
You cant practice races at any time in the server. If jose alex or me we are in ask us for a race and if we arent there make a poll
I also like the idea of 2 grids and the slowest ones goes down a level and fastest ones go up
You think it is the best way?
Quote from: LOOPATELI on February 09, 2015, 09:59:27 PM
I also like the idea of 2 grids and the slowest ones goes down a level and fastest ones go up
You think it is the best way?
I can live with this. At least all of us can race then.
Is it possible that the motorcycle takes for example 55 ° maximum instead of 65 °?
Two categories is a good idea.
Maybe two categories like it was in Red Bull Rookies Cup? E.g. Class A and B on two servers. Damn it that in last race there would be only 5 riders on server - people want to start.
It's only my opinion.
Quote from: LOOPATELI on February 09, 2015, 09:59:27 PM
I also like the idea of 2 grids and the slowest ones goes down a level and fastest ones go up
You think it is the best way?
+1
I think that is a great idea too! ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: yan24 on February 09, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
Is it possible that the motorcycle takes for example 55 ° maximum instead of 65 °?
If I understand things correctly, the virtual rider determines the lean angle for the level of grip available? Maybe someone could confirm or elaborate further on this? Possibly Max?
Hawk.
Yes, I guess it too Hawk.
Before the champ will be an update (the last one, I´ll give it to someone that wants to follow this). Hope that lean degree angle and front loose grip will be better.
I have continu my test this nigth and whe look a good configuration for the Moto Bike.
For to have more less problem on the tyre you put the presure at 1.60 for the front and rear tyre.
And for all tyre : Soft, Medium, Hard
The Better tyre are the Medium.
You have a grip and you don't lost your front tyre whith this configuration.
Just in the corner very slow in sectory 2 becareful again.
Maybe this information help for understand why we have more problem when we put 1.50 front and 1.50 rear on the presure for the tyre (soft, medium and hard).
Quote from: hezio on February 10, 2015, 12:47:35 AM
I have continu my test this nigth and whe look a good configuration for the Moto Bike.
For to have more less problem on the tyre you put the presure at 1.60 for the front and rear tyre.
And for all tyre : Soft, Medium, Hard
The Better tyre are the Medium.
You have a grip and you don't lost your front tyre whith this configuration.
Just in the corner very slow in sectory 2 becareful again.
Maybe this information help for understand why we have more problem when we put 1.50 front and 1.50 rear on the presure for the tyre (soft, medium and hard).
I've always thought that tyre pressures were set according to the temperature/setup/riding style?
In other words, the setup you have will affect the tyre temperatures across the width of the tyre(lSections: Left/Centre/Right) and therefore the grip levels; and altering the tyres pressures adjusts the temperature to the optimal level for the setup and riding style you have. If you get this right then you will have good grip and correct tyre temperatures during operation.
I don't think there is, or should be a
set(or a standardized) tyre pressure for best performance as such, I think in reality optimal tyre pressures will differ depending on your setup/riding style.
If I understand correctly this is so? Again, maybe someone else could elaborate, confirm or deny this?
Hawk.
Quote from: Alone on February 10, 2015, 12:02:27 AM
Yes, I guess it too Hawk.
Before the champ will be an update (the last one, I´ll give it to someone that wants to follow this). Hope that lean degree angle and front loose grip will be better.
Hi Alone.
We have noticed that the slow gear down-change has come back on the "Kalex KTM"?
It happens when your changing down gear while applying the brakes(I only use front brake); if I don't apply the brakes then the down-change is fine.... Very strange, but I think you'll know what the problem is. ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on February 10, 2015, 08:34:28 AM
Quote from: Alone on February 10, 2015, 12:02:27 AM
Yes, I guess it too Hawk.
Before the champ will be an update (the last one, I´ll give it to someone that wants to follow this). Hope that lean degree angle and front loose grip will be better.
Hi Alone.
We have noticed that the slow gear down-change has come back on the "Kalex KTM"?
It happens when your changing down gear while applying the brakes(I only use front brake); if I don't apply the brakes then the down-change is fine.... Very strange, but I think you'll know what the problem is. ;)
Hawk.
I've got the same problem hawk. What I do is every time I shift down a gear I throttle a bit, like with a big bike. it is quite helpful
Quote from: Alone on February 10, 2015, 12:02:27 AM
Yes, I guess it too Hawk.
Before the champ will be an update (the last one, I´ll give it to someone that wants to follow this). Hope that lean degree angle and front loose grip will be better.
Thanks so much alone!! really appreciated :D
Quote from: LOOPATELI on February 10, 2015, 01:15:30 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on February 10, 2015, 08:34:28 AM
Quote from: Alone on February 10, 2015, 12:02:27 AM
Yes, I guess it too Hawk.
Before the champ will be an update (the last one, I´ll give it to someone that wants to follow this). Hope that lean degree angle and front loose grip will be better.
Hi Alone.
We have noticed that the slow gear down-change has come back on the "Kalex KTM"?
It happens when your changing down gear while applying the brakes(I only use front brake); if I don't apply the brakes then the down-change is fine.... Very strange, but I think you'll know what the problem is. ;)
Hawk.
I've got the same problem hawk. What I do is every time I shift down a gear I throttle a bit, like with a big bike. it is quite helpful
That is difficult when I have the throttle and front brake on the same control axis on my joystick. Waiting for one of DD's IAS Motorcycle Controllers so I can operate like real bike. ;D
Hawk.
Any race would be fine wouldnt have to be on this server. I simply dont know what i should do to make sure i start the race.
Quote from: GreekChief on February 10, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
Any race would be fine wouldnt have to be on this server. I simply dont know what i should do to make sure i start the race.
This may help you:
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=862.0 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=862.0)Hawk. ;)
PS: Above all, don't move once the start sequence begins or you'll get a "jump start" penalty which drops you out of the race.
Im getting core.exe after about 2 laps in testing at losail every time, anyone else getting this?
Quote from: sellers on February 11, 2015, 02:07:25 AM
Im getting core.exe after about 2 laps in testing at losail every time, anyone else getting this?
Yes.. At least 1 Core.exe crash every damn day that I play..
Alibaskins does a superb job with the best laps project and hotlap events.. But, I cannot try anymore.. After months of trying I was finally a second up on my time at victoria.. Only to get a core.exe crash 10metres from the line.. Feeling deflated after that one lol.
damn that is extremly unfortunate!
Quote from: sellers on February 11, 2015, 02:07:25 AM
Im getting core.exe after about 2 laps in testing at losail every time, anyone else getting this?
Yeah I get random cores on track as well.
It's probably because of Losail having a "Dynamic" track surface..... Sorry I can't do an "NDS" version as I don't have the source files for that track. :(
Hawk.
Shouldn't we use another track then Loopatelli? I imagine racing on a non NDS track will be pretty bad.
The first circuit of Losail season change , the circuit Aragon_v0.85_NDS.
To improve core.exe problem
Download Aragon_v0.85_NDS (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jw9811t7mlgx45f/AADXsL6nJggl0l-qMa58nFxaa/GPBikes%20tracks/Aragon_V0.85_NDS.zip?dl=0)
Quote from: Alexhrc on February 11, 2015, 07:27:14 PM
The first circuit of Losail season change , the circuit Aragon_v0.85_NDS.
To improve core.exe problem
Download Aragon_v0.85_NDS (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jw9811t7mlgx45f/AADXsL6nJggl0l-qMa58nFxaa/GPBikes%20tracks/Aragon_V0.85_NDS.zip?dl=0)
Brilliant! Aragon is one of my favourite circuits.... Never ridden it on a 125 before though. Lol
Hawk.
I think it would be cool to have championship and constructors standings. just a thought
Quote from: sellers on February 24, 2015, 10:17:07 PM
I think it would be cool to have championship and constructors standings. just a thought
Like these ones :P
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2088.0 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2088.0)
Loopatelli, Ghezoo and I form a team ;)
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1972.0
May be come in handy for the future when we'll get points.
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2088.0
Quote from: Boerenlater on February 25, 2015, 11:04:17 AM
Loopatelli, Ghezoo and I form a team ;)
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1972.0
May be come in handy for the future when we'll get points.
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2088.0
grrrr I always miss things hahaha, sorry dude I'll update then as soon as I can
Here are my Noob thoughts on getting everyone to ride.
Firstly, roughly how many people don't get to ride each race so far? One or two or a lot?
If its enough to make 2 races on two servers or 2 races on different nights then that would be great for us all to get a race.
Totally appreciate it is more work for someone of course.
Hope that helps,
Nick.
sorry for question, but sepang is not nds,is problem for core?
Quote from: giorjoe on March 18, 2015, 12:17:26 PM
sorry for question, but sepang is not nds,is problem for core?
We are going to change it, maybe we put LeMans, but don't know yet we have to do test
Skip the warmup. It's only 5 minutes and the last couple of races only three guys set a time.
Quote from: Boerenlater on April 06, 2015, 10:17:04 AM
Skip the warmup. It's only 5 minutes and the last couple of races only three guys set a time.
and the chance of core.exe's increase.
The warmup its ok. This post in the rules. Each driver uses the warmup as you want, I personally train departures, but others prefer not to go out there.
Regarding the core.exe ... do not know if the warmup there are more problems with core.exe.
If Piboso fix the problem of core.exe, this simulator would improve a lot.
Sorry for question, but sepang is confirmed?
Quote from: giorjoe on April 11, 2015, 10:09:16 AM
Sorry for question, but sepang is confirmed?
We wont race in sepang, we will test a couple of tracks after this race and ask riders opinions
Monza? Slipstream heaven.
Quote from: Boerenlater on April 13, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
Monza? Slipstream heaven.
Soon you may know what will be the circuit
Quote from: Jose Reina on April 13, 2015, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on April 13, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
Monza? Slipstream heaven.
Soon you may know what will be the circuit
Well I hope you take my suggestion with it :P
I have seen in the server the track nc bugatti.
Good choice ;)
For information this track is in NDS.
I propose for the last race NC Mugello NDS because the track vzlencia is very very bad for is so fast.
It's very fifficul to go many lap with no crash.
After if the guys have create this track change this I am ok I like this track.
For me NC Bugat and NC Mugello is a very good choice for to have a beautiful race.
What do you think ?
Bugatti is not the long Le Mans course right?
Quote from: Boerenlater on April 14, 2015, 08:27:27 PM
Bugatti is not the long Le Mans course right?
Is the same layout as mgp
Hola a todos...2 questions
Valencia is confirmed for last round?
When finish m3 champ start new champ in other category? (600?)
Thanks for read
Quote from: giorjoe on April 25, 2015, 09:04:31 AM
Hola a todos...2 questions
Valencia is confirmed for last round?
When finish m3 champ start new champ in other category? (600?)
Thanks for read
Hi giorjoe :)
I also don't like valencia, it's a quite bad track on gpb, but we are a few we have to decide so we have to discuss the track together. From my part, I don't want to race in valencia.
And when we finish m3 we will make another champ for sure, no idea about the mod yet
If only there was a supersport 400 mod. Imagine all those 80s/90s bike like CBR400R, GSX-R400, FZR400 and ZXR400.
Thanks loopa, great organization you jose alex and all peofessional riders
Quote from: LOOPATELI on April 25, 2015, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: giorjoe on April 25, 2015, 09:04:31 AM
Hola a todos...2 questions
Valencia is confirmed for last round?
When finish m3 champ start new champ in other category? (600?)
Thanks for read
Hi giorjoe :)
I also don't like valencia, it's a quite bad track on gpb, but we are a few we have to decide so we have to discuss the track together. From my part, I don't want to race in valencia.
And when we finish m3 we will make another champ for sure, no idea about the mod yet
Having just rode on Valencia I have to agree with you Loopa. The track is pretty bad to ride on. :(
I know it's too late for a change now, but I would've thought "Sachenring NC", NC "Mugello", or the "A1 Ring" would've clearly have been better choices than Valencia. ::)
Hawk.
Quote from: LOOPATELI
And when we finish m3 we will make another champ for sure, no idea about the mod yet
Well, I would like to see Moto2 Championship.
And thumb up to you for great organization of Moto3 ;)
Personally.... and I know I'm biased towards 2 strokes, but I personally would like to see the 250cc 2 stroke bike in a championship. ;D
Hawk.
600???
I'd vote for a road racing calendar, but there isn't enough tracks :(
Quote from: giorjoe on May 04, 2015, 05:29:44 PM
600???
What about the current wss600 championship?
We will wait till the next beta is out, which I think it's on mid june right??
Also we want to now:
Something in the way the champ went that we can change in the future?? Not gpb issues like cores ride trhough etc
Quote from: LOOPATELI on May 04, 2015, 06:49:38 PM
Also we want to now:
Something in the way the champ went that we can change in the future?? Not gpb issues like cores ride trhough etc
I still think you should have a set number of registered riders for the champs. As we found out, running a hotlap time does not register reliably enough to count on. Plus I personally feel that when your running a championship that non registered riders should not be able to take part, not even wildcards. as this can effect the true result of the Championships. Any riders that miss a race will automatically be dropped from the next race no matter the reason they say they couldn't race. State this from the start and riders will know were they stand and what rules will be applied. So riders have no excuses and no reason to complain. If a rider decide to drop out of the champs, then they will not be able to register in the next organised champs event.
Tracks for the whole champs should be tested and decided upon before the champs start to avoid the bad tracks like we had in the last race.
If it's hard to find different tracks for the whole champs that are good to ride on, then allow previously used tracks to be chosen again to fill out the champ season.
Just a few
suggestions from me. ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk UK on May 05, 2015, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: LOOPATELI on May 04, 2015, 06:49:38 PM
Also we want to now:
Something in the way the champ went that we can change in the future?? Not gpb issues like cores ride trhough etc
I still think you should have a set number of registered riders for the champs. As we found out, running a hotlap time does not register reliably enough to count on. Plus I personally feel that when your running a championship that non registered riders should not be able to take part, not even wildcards. as this can effect the true result of the Championships. Any riders that miss a race will automatically be dropped from the next race no matter the reason they say they couldn't race. State this from the start and riders will know were they stand and what rules will be applied. So riders have no excuses and no reason to complain. If a rider decide to drop out of the champs, then they will not be able to register in the next organised champs event.
Tracks for the whole champs should be tested and decided upon before the champs start to avoid the bad tracks like we had in the last race.
If it's hard to find different tracks for the whole champs that are good to ride on, then allow previously used tracks to be chosen again to fill out the champ season.
Just a few suggestions from me. ;)
Hawk.
Thanks Hawk :) We will take that into account