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It's time for the third round :D
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Mod: Moto3 2013
DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/71jjdsnkb7jvogu/Moto3+2013+BKS+v0.99.zip) (Templates (http://www.mediafire.com/download/775wev0ksg3ke9k/Templates+M3.zip))
Track:
ASSEN (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=45.0)
Race Day: Sunday 15/03/2015
Race time: 22:30 GMT + 1:00 (Practice starts at 22:00)
Max Riders: 24
Weather: CLEAR
Practice time: 10 min
Qualifying time: 15 min
WarmUp: 5 min
Sightning lap: OFF
WarmUp lap: OFF
Race distance: 60%
The 24 fastest riders in
Best Laps (http://gp-bikes.motonline-france.com/bestlaps.php) till 23:59 CET of Saturday night. Remember always you improve your lap go and check it in monotone-France page. We will only take best laps from there.
If you wanna take part on it just post here your Nickname+Number.
Wildcard list ONLY for riders not taking part in the championship. If you are in the champ, register and you have time till saturday night to say no
SEND YOUR SKINS BEFORE SATURDAY NIGHT. We will make the skin pack on sunday and it will be the same for the whole championship
SKIN-PACK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h32mz15469b17j1/AABWjxHfBL-h4k-WvEiG7GHwa?dl=0)
RIDERS LIST:
1-giorjoe#82
2-yan24#98
3-Alexhrc #93
4-Boerenlater #36
5-Hawk_UK #7
6-Klax75 #75
7-finpower # 56
8-HEZIO #3
9-chikailija #99
10-Rodrigo Garcia #33
11-Lluisete #32
12-Tonygas #43
13-meyer12 #22
14-MaLve #87
15-67#jors666
16-hamish sellers #66
17-BozoCRO #4
18-Bambino #95
19-Docfumi #69
20-zwine #52
21-Loopateli #8
22-kastermansss
23-albertukis loko#88
24-Jose Reina #62 (registered in www.gpbikes.es)
25-Matty0l215 #61
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giorjoe#82 thanks
I will be here!
R1rossi #34
yan24#98
Alexhrc #93
Boerenlater #36
Hawk_UK #7
Klax75 #75
finpower # 56
HEZIO #3
chikailija #99
Rodrigo Garcia #33
Lluisete #32
Cristianaco #77 ( www.gpbikes.es)
Tonygas #43
meyer12 #22
MaLve #87
thx
67#jors666
ole,ole...nos vamos a Holanda!!!
hamish sellers #66
Hello, the stopwatches of Best lap do not work any more.
Hmm.... How come every other race we have a two week wait before the next race? Why not a race every week until the champs is finished?
I'm getting withdrawal symptoms here. Hehe!! ;D
Hawk.
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
You can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
Hi Kyle.
You should see it if you go online. In fact you can practice on the server now if you wish.... The track and server is clearly named. ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
You can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
Really??? Is that a champ rule? Lol
Hawk
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 07, 2015, 06:22:32 PMHi Kyle.
You should see it if you go online. In fact you can practice on the server now if you wish.... The track and server is clearly named. ;)
Hawk.
Thanks for the fast response, yeah i was riding in that server just wanted to make sure its the actual race server :)
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:20:51 PMYou can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
no worries man,
Kyle Martin #9
This time I won't be able to start.
Good luck all ;)
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 07, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
You can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
Really??? Is that a champ rule? Lol
Hawk
GP bikes can't do 3 digit numbers... :P
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 07, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
You can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
Really??? Is that a champ rule? Lol
Hawk
GP bikes can't do 3 digit numbers... :P
Lol... I never knew that..... Reminds me of the year 2000 OS bug. Hehe. ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 07, 2015, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 07, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 07, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: kmracing99 on March 07, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Kyle Martin #991
this is my first time entering for an event on this game, what server will the racing be on?
my original numbers 99 but it was chosen :(
You can't use 3 digit numbers, sorry :(
Really??? Is that a champ rule? Lol
Hawk
GP bikes can't do 3 digit numbers... :P
Lol... I never knew that..... Reminds me of the year 2000 OS bug. Hehe. ;D
Hawk.
MX Bike can
Probably because not many GP racers use 3 digits
my number is #66 on forum but i use #666 in game
Quote from: sellers on March 07, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
my number is #66 on forum but i use #666 in game
On your in-game profile, the numbers range from 2-99 that is the number that is shown on the results page.
You can use 3 digit numbers but only unofficially/on skins
Quote from: sellers on March 07, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
my number is #66 on forum but i use #666 in game
#666!! We should call you the "Devil Rider". Hehe ;D
Hawk.
BozoCRO #4
Bambino #95
Docfumi #69
zwine #52
bambam51, aka kastermansss ingame probaply,. didnt know how to change the nickname but, nickname is going to be kastermansss
y jose no corre?
Quote from: kastermansss on March 10, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
bambam51, aka kastermansss ingame probaply,. didnt know how to change the nickname but, nickname is going to be kastermansss
http://stats.gp-bikes.com/register.php
Just enter your details again and put your new nickname in the nickname tab
I won't be able to race! :(
due to it being mothers day i won't be home so i have no access to my pc,
anyways good luck to everyone racing!
albertukis loko#88 ;D
Matty0l215 #61 (Wildcard or rider, whatever works)
My new skin - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qb5to540z396pr/%5BKTM%20Moto%203%5D%20Matty0l215%20%2361.pnt?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qb5to540z396pr/%5BKTM%20Moto%203%5D%20Matty0l215%20%2361.pnt?dl=0)
It uses Meyers base but with my number :) On the KTM
Thanks :D
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 11, 2015, 06:18:47 PM
Matty0l215 #61 (Wildcard or rider, whatever works)
My new skin - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qb5to540z396pr/%5BKTM%20Moto%203%5D%20Matty0l215%20%2361.pnt?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qb5to540z396pr/%5BKTM%20Moto%203%5D%20Matty0l215%20%2361.pnt?dl=0)
It uses Meyers base but with my number :) On the KTM
Thanks :D
Matty, wildcard only for riders that not register in the champ
You have "oficial rider", You have register to join the race or not
Sorry :P
Sign me up then ;D
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 11, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Sorry :P
Sign me up then ;D
If at the end you can not run the race, you should notify you're not going to run. So occupy another pilot your place
Notice for all riders
If a rider can not run, must notify as soon as possible
At the moment we enrolled 27 pilots and can only run 24 riders. Server password to the 24 fastest drivers of Hotlaps be sent. If any of these 24 drivers not run, and does not notify will have a sanction.
Hi Jose Reina, I will not run this race because I am not as good as I want to be. I hope I can
find the speed in practice and join another race soon.
Good Luck to all riders
Doc
Quote from: docfumi on March 13, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
Hi Jose Reina, I will not run this race because I am not as good as I want to be. I hope I can
find the speed in practice and join another race soon.
Good Luck to all riders
Doc
Don't let the lack of speed stop you. If anything you learn a lot racing with faster guys.
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 13, 2015, 07:39:14 PM
Quote from: docfumi on March 13, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
Hi Jose Reina, I will not run this race because I am not as good as I want to be. I hope I can
find the speed in practice and join another race soon.
Good Luck to all riders
Doc
Don't let the lack of speed stop you. If anything you learn a lot racing with faster guys.
+1 ;)
Also. It's one thing to be fast while racing offline alone, but quite another story all together when you race close with other guys online. You won't learn a lot by not entering races. :P ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 13, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 13, 2015, 07:39:14 PM
Quote from: docfumi on March 13, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
Hi Jose Reina, I will not run this race because I am not as good as I want to be. I hope I can
find the speed in practice and join another race soon.
Good Luck to all riders
Doc
Don't let the lack of speed stop you. If anything you learn a lot racing with faster guys.
+1 ;)
Also. It's one thing to be fast while racing offline alone, but quite another story all together when you race close with other guys online. You won't learn a lot by not entering races. :P ;)
Hawk.
I have no problem with racing, it's just setting up the bike that kills me. My lines around Assen are good, my bike is slow.
I want to be competitive on track and not in the way. :( I did some laps with 6 guys today and could not keep up.
Thanks to LOOPATELI for the help ;D
Lol... If your trying to keep up with the front runners, forget it! They live on a different planet from the rest of us mere mortals. Hehehe!! ;D ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 13, 2015, 11:02:00 PM
They live on a different planet the rest of us mere mortals. Hehehe!! ;D ;D
Hawk.
It's like trying to understand Stringtheorie. I get it, but I don't get it. :(
Quote from: docfumi on March 13, 2015, 11:07:52 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 13, 2015, 11:02:00 PM
They live on a different planet the rest of us mere mortals. Hehehe!! ;D ;D
Hawk.
It's like trying to understand Stringtheorie. I get it, but I don't get it. :(
I've entered nearly every race for the last 3 years and I'm only just getting to the stage were I feel comfortable when racing in close proximity with other riders. It hasn't come easy to me at all. I mean I can go pretty fast when riding on my own, but when I get close with other riders it's a whole new ball game altogether. Lol.
This is why it's important to enter races no matter whether your fast or not, it's the experience you gain through racing that will benefit you in the end, and if your good enough the speed will come along as you gain that experience. ;)
For me.... Well I usually end up in the mid-field somewhere, and if I'm lucky I may one day get on the winners rostrum(something I always aim for), but really I need to put in a lot more practice but that's something I just haven't got the time to do at the moment. :)
Hawk.
Quote from: docfumi on March 13, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
Hi Jose Reina, I will not run this race because I am not as good as I want to be. I hope I can
find the speed in practice and join another race soon.
Good Luck to all riders
Doc
Hey Doc!! You're still in the riders list, because is better for you to race, thats for sure. You weren't that bad at all this afternoon, you'll make a good race
These riders have not completed any laps
Hawk
Chikailija
Rodrigo Garcia
Zwine
Kastermanss
Quote from: Jose Reina on March 14, 2015, 09:48:17 PM
These riders have not completed any laps
Hawk
Chikailija
Rodrigo Garcia
Zwine
Kastermanss
Hi Josie.
I rushed on tonight when I got back and logged in and saw this notice at approx. 23:00 GMT, but Sat 23:59 CET(ruling time for fastest laps) is +1 hr on GMT time, so I was too late to put in another lap to make the race. :(
Sorry for that..... I did ride on the race server earlier in the week but apparently it didn't register on Ali's fastest lap site. My fault I should've checked. ::)
Oh well..... Looks like I'm out of the race this time, but if someone doesn't turn up and leaves a space let me know(I'll be on the forum around the time of the race if needed.) ;)
Good luck guys, have a good race!! ;D 8)
Hawk.
I cannot make the race,
Please someone else enjoy, called into work.
Have fun
RIDERS FOR THE RACE(not in order of hot laps):
1-giorjoe#82
2-yan24#98
3-Alexhrc #93
4-Boerenlater #36
5-Klax75 #75
6-finpower # 56
7-HEZIO #3
8-Lluisete #32
9-Tonygas #43
10-meyer12 #22
11-MaLve #87
12-jors666 67#
13-hamish sellers #66
14-BozoCRO #4
15-Bambino #95
16-Docfumi #69
17-Loopateli #8
18-albertukis loko#88
19-Jose Reina #62
20-Matty0l215 #61
(*)Hotlap not on time, be careful next time ;)
21-Hawk_UK #7
22-chikailija #99
2 spots left
Thanks guys... Appreciate this. ;)
Hawk
Need a password for race please ;D
race3
FACK!!!
Blew the enigne :'( :'(
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 15, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
FACK!!!
Blew the enigne :'( :'(
Jump Started the race, well FACK ME TOO! >:(
Lovely core for me :) seriously I love this game. Ten out of ten
Bloody Yan is leading :P
Good race all. I feel in the first lap, got hit and some reset right infront of me. Then for I didn't fall again at all until the very last lap someone hit me in the back when I was breaking for the chicane. Was fun not falling! lol Good race all.
Quotesome reset right infront of me
That was me ::)
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 15, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
Quotesome reset right infront of me
That was me ::)
lol Oh well. :)
Great race! had a few problems the first few laps but then after 4-5 laps it started to get better and i could fight my way up from 18th to 11th i think even i had few crashes :D also did new PB on my way trough the field. YAY! ;D
A very good race for me, I crossed a very good moment with jose.
traduction google
good race for me :)
grats on podium
Provisional results and replay (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h32mz15469b17j1/AABWjxHfBL-h4k-WvEiG7GHwa?dl=0)
Amazing race for me, the best so far in GPB.
At first a beautiful battle with Albertukis Loko, it looked like the end of the race !!!
And then another tough battle with Yan24 until the last lap. When we saw the white flag, the two we press to the maximum to try to win. Yan24 advancement me on the backstretch and then overtake him again in the next, and enter meta at 0.2 !! Incredible end !!!
I recommend everyone run a few beers in the body, feel good !!! hahahahaha
Thanks to all drivers to run!
Quote from: Jose Reina on March 15, 2015, 10:34:33 PM
Amazing race for me, the best so far in GPB.
At first a beautiful battle with Albertukis Loko, it looked like the end of the race !!!
And then another tough battle with Yan24 until the last lap. When we saw the white flag, the two we press to the maximum to try to win. Yan24 advancement me on the backstretch and then overtake him again in the next, and enter meta at 0.2 !! Incredible end !!!
I recommend everyone run a few beers in the body, feel good !!! hahahahaha
Thanks to all drivers to run!
JOSE 0 points and 3 race penalties due to race drunk
Congrats to all see you next week
Congrats to Josie for the win. Well done mate! ;D 8)
I had a great race considering my lack of practice for this one, plus my setup had a lot to be desired. But 13th place(Unlucky for some. Lol.) is not too bad for me considering. ;D
Me and BozoCRO were having a great race together until I made a couple of mistakes pushing too hard which let him get about a 3 second lead on me on the 9th lap and it was just too much to pull back before the end of the race, but I really enjoyed our little battle mate! Nice one!! ;D 8)
Thanks to Klax(My team mate) for giving me plenty of room to pass him through the corner. I don't know if you saw me coming Klax, but you made it easy for me mate. Thanks. Nice to hear you had a good race with only one fall.... Mine was a good one with only 2 falls and one wasn't my fault as I was hit from behind going into the chicane... anyway... ::)
Really enjoyed that one guys. Great race and looking forward to the next one! ;) ;D
Hawk.
I made a jumpstart by accident but I just backpedaled and the game didn't punish me lol.
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 16, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
I made a jumpstart by accident but I just backpedaled and the game didn't punish me lol.
Lol... Yeah I saw that. It was at the same time Doc got disqualified for a jump start and I thought "What the hell!" because I also saw you jump start too. Lol
Hawk.
Good race guys ;) This championship is super fun 8)
Here is my replay I saved of the Assen race. :)
Moto3 Round 3 Assen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtf13l9f8ylt8au/Moto%203%20Round%203%20Assen.rpy?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtf13l9f8ylt8au/Moto%203%20Round%203%20Assen.rpy?dl=0)
I'm happy only fell one time on a mistake I did, the other times I was hit. :/
Quote from: Klax75 on March 16, 2015, 12:13:18 PM
Here is my replay I saved of the Assen race. :)
Moto3 Round 3 Assen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtf13l9f8ylt8au/Moto%203%20Round%203%20Assen.rpy?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtf13l9f8ylt8au/Moto%203%20Round%203%20Assen.rpy?dl=0)
I'm happy only fell one time on a mistake I did, the other times I was hit. :/
Thanks so much :D
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 15, 2015, 11:17:36 PM
Me and BozoCRO were having a great race together until I made a couple of mistakes pushing too hard which let him get about a 3 second lead on me on the 9th lap and it was just too much to pull back before the end of the race, but I really enjoyed our little battle mate! Nice one!! ;D 8)
Hawk.
Yes it was great! Sorry about that fall in one of the slow corners. Hope we have many more races like this. Assen was really something special. Before our battle I had a small battle with illuisete but I couldnt keep up. Great fun!
Quote from: BozoCRO on March 16, 2015, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 15, 2015, 11:17:36 PM
Me and BozoCRO were having a great race together until I made a couple of mistakes pushing too hard which let him get about a 3 second lead on me on the 9th lap and it was just too much to pull back before the end of the race, but I really enjoyed our little battle mate! Nice one!! ;D 8)
Hawk.
Yes it was great! Sorry about that fall in one of the slow corners. Hope we have many more races like this. Assen was really something special. Before our battle I had a small battle with illuisete but I couldnt keep up. Great fun!
No problem about that crash mate... At the time I was just SO close to you that when you fell off your bike flipped straight back on track and I couldn't avoid it. Lol.... As far as I was concerned it was just a racing accident. But yeah great fun! ;D 8)
Hawk.
Hello everyone, I have joined today (from UK) after having the sim just over a week.
I had the great pleasure of being in practice with you before you all left for the Assen race, and I desperately wanted to join you so I have trawled the internet to find out how and now wait for the Brno round to be posted in the hope I can earn a Wild Card ride.
Many thanks to you all for your help and advice. You will recognise me on track - I am the old bloke going slow at the back...
Hope to see you all soon.
Regards, Nick.
(Crutch-high) :o
https://m.youtube.com/v/VGXI3BQ7_L4
Quote from: yan24 on March 17, 2015, 08:41:56 AM
https://m.youtube.com/v/VGXI3BQ7_L4
Fixed the link for you Yan. ;)
Hawk.
Edit: Just watched this video.... Brilliant battle there guys... Nice riding. Great to watch! ;D 8)
an amazing battle !! When we saw it was the last lap, we accelerated both at 100%, risking to try to win, but always cleanly!
Thanks Yan24 this great race and make the video!
great and clean battle, very good bikers
Sanctions of Assen 3nd Race
Claims:
-- Giorjoe # 82 calls for chikailija #99 action at 1st lap ->Severe Punishment: 10 seconds penalty at the end of the race and loosing 1 point. Right at the start, chikailija collides straightly with Giorjoe, both falling to the ground. At the replay we can see how Chika goes straight and hits giorgio on the back, giorgio did not change of direction at all.
-- Hawk_UK #7 calls for Lluisete #32 action at 3rd lap ->Punishment: 5 seconds penalty at the end of the race. In the last chicane Lluisete brakes super late with no possibility to do the corner, and he didn't take in consideration that hawk was in front of him, causing the crash of hawk
(http://fotos.subefotos.com/c77d2ebb1337a612aa44e3c5488a0536o.png)
(http://fotos.subefotos.com/8bcbb20b6da9fb5590502bd7319beae4o.png)
Docfumi DSQ!!! Jump Start is only a ride through, we need to address this >:(
MotoGP™ Basics
Key Rules
RIDE THROUGH PROCEDURE
The Ride Through Procedure penalty can be imposed on a rider if, for example, he has jump started and left his starting position before the red lights go off to signal the race has commenced.
During the race, the rider will be requested to ride through the pit lane and may then re-join his fellow competitors on track. Stopping is not permitted and the rider must respect the 60km/h speed limit in pit lane. In case of infraction of this speed limit, the ride through procedure will be repeated and in the case of a second infraction of this speed limit, the black flag signifying disqualification will be shown to the rider.
After notification has been made to the rider's team that a ride through penalty is being imposed, a yellow board displaying the riders' numbers will be shown at the finish line and the information will also be displayed on the timekeeping monitors. Failure by the relevant rider to ride through, having been shown the board five times, will result in that rider being shown the black flag.
In the case where the race organisation has been unable to carry out the ride through penalty before the end of the race, the relevant rider will be inflicted with a time penalty of 20 seconds.
Nothing we can do on that, look jose in the first race
Just to apologise publicly for my collision at the start,sorry to giorjoe.And to add that I didnt done that deliberately,i had so much lag at the start,i did not saw half riders,including giorjoe.So much flickering and shit.Anyhow,sanction noted,no complain about that.See you on track.Cheers.
Quote from: chikailija on March 17, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
Just to apologise publicly for my collision at the start,sorry to giorjoe.And to add that I didnt done that deliberately,i had so much lag at the start,i did not saw half riders,including giorjoe.So much flickering and shit.Anyhow,sanction noted,no complain about that.See you on track.Cheers.
Yes jose and I think that it had to be a lag or ping or something, because it was like OMG he destroyed Giorjoe. But man we can do nothing about lags, anyway you didn't loose any position and only a point, not that bad haha is only a warning for all of us
Quote from: LOOPATELI on March 17, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Nothing we can do on that, look jose in the first race
I know it is not your fault, just wanted to point that out for a future Beta release.
I did not want to jump start but my hand hit the LOW SPEED stick that I assigned and I was done racing before I got started.
Hope PiBoSo will look at a fix for this and I'll see you guys on track.
Thanks LOOPATELLI for all your hard work it was fun. ;D
Quote from: docfumi on March 17, 2015, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: LOOPATELI on March 17, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Nothing we can do on that, look jose in the first race
I know it is not your fault, just wanted to point that out for a future Beta release.
I did not want to jump start but my hand hit the LOW SPEED stick that I assigned and I was done racing before I got started.
Hope PiBoSo will look at a fix for this and I'll see you guys on track.
Thanks LOOPATELLI for all your hard work it was fun. ;D
I understand you dude, I got another (friggen) core, 2 races in a row...