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GP Bikes => Bikes => Mods => Physics => Topic started by: C21 on April 06, 2016, 07:48:50 AM

Title: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: C21 on April 06, 2016, 07:48:50 AM
Are you able to simulate High and Low Speed Compression Damping on the rear suspension in GPB,MXB?
Is it possible to add this feature?
Right now we are "only" able to adjust the rear compression damping in general.
Iīm asking because most of the rear dampers used in Sport Bikes / GP / SBK / MX  have the possibility to adjust seperate High and Low Speed compression damping on the rear damper.

Regards
C.
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: PiBoSo on April 06, 2016, 09:37:33 AM
Are you able to simulate High and Low Speed Compression Damping on the rear suspension in GPB,MXB?
Is it possible to add this feature?
Right now we are "only" able to adjust the rear compression damping in general.
Iīm asking because most of the rear dampers used in Sport Bikes / GP / SBK / MX  have the possibility to adjust seperate High and Low Speed compression damping on the rear damper.

Regards
C.

As you can see in the CFG files, there already are separate high and low speed damping.
So this is probably more of a "suggestion and wishlist" request, to add the garage setting.
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: HornetMaX on April 06, 2016, 10:44:44 AM
As you can see in the CFG files, there already are separate high and low speed damping.
So this is probably more of a "suggestion and wishlist" request, to add the garage setting.
I'm quite confident no modder (except maybe one) knew these were actually high/low speed damping values.
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: C21 on April 21, 2016, 10:05:07 AM
Correct Max, as you said.
I was not aware this already are high and low speed values.
Could you get a bit more into detail?

Iīll give it at try:
(murusama.cfg)
bump
setting0=6000,3600
setting1=7200,4020
.
setting9=16800,4980

maybe itīs:
6000 is the force
3600 is the velocity
devided to 100 equivalent to:
setting0= 60,0 N @ 36,0 mm/s
setting1= 72,0N @ 40,2 mm/s
-
setting9=168,0N @ 49,8mm/s

Hmm.... :-\......donīt think that this will be correct :o
P.s.
typically damper graphs consist of force against velocity.
P.p.s
Looking into MXB files itīs getting more worse (Three stage damping!!) ;D


Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: HornetMaX on April 21, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
Correct Max, as you said.
I was not aware this already are high and low speed values.
Could you get a bit more into detail?
Not really, as I wasn't aware neither :)

BTW, MXB suspensions looks even more complex than GPB ones.
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: PiBoSo on April 21, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Correct Max, as you said.
I was not aware this already are high and low speed values.
Could you get a bit more into detail?

The first value is the slow damping, the second fast damping ( the unit of measure is N/(m/s) ).
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: C21 on April 21, 2016, 07:12:02 PM
Thank you for explaining. :)
Title: Re: @Piboso: High and Low Speed Compression damping
Post by: Tosteetos on May 21, 2018, 01:30:20 AM
High and low speed damping settings should totally be in the suspension settings panel!!! This is critical to fine tune the way a bike handles on any given track. Maybe this is the reason why some bikes feel so good and some feel completely off on the damping. :)