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Title: CAWS MOD Team - Beta 11 - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Hawk on August 31, 2016, 04:52:13 PM
We are happy to announce the pre-release version of the "CAWS Moto 2 Kalex 2013 Bike".
This M2 Kalex bike has been created using real world data as much as we possibly could taken from the 2013 MotoGP season.

This bike is not yet a final release and we would appreciate all your feedback and suggestions for any improvements you feel could be made.



NOTE: All CAWS Team Bike MODS will be released via Matty's "Bikemod" Database.




Moto 2 Kalex 2013 :



Please use this forum thread for constructive feedback and comments only please. All greatly appreciated. Thank you.  :)



Hawk.
Published C/o: CAWS MOD Team
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2016, 05:15:49 PM
CAWS Moto2 vs Manu Moto2: fight !! :)
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: matty0l215 on August 31, 2016, 05:17:07 PM
2013 vs 2015 :P
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2016, 05:18:04 PM
2013 vs 2015 :P
Don't chicken out, it's stil a fight ;)
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: matty0l215 on August 31, 2016, 05:21:44 PM
2013 all the way, the bike is really nice to ride.

Much more satisfying :)
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Warlock on August 31, 2016, 05:32:08 PM
2013 vs 2015 :P
Don't chicken out, it's stil a fight ;)

lol  ;D

Really, that wasn't the intention, was a project we had a long time ago, but Manu got his out first , thankfully is another year model.
Just wanted to say, in case someone start to think we are trying to discredit Manu's work.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2016, 06:40:17 PM
It will be actually interesting to see the same bike (more or less) made by different modders.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: doubledragoncc on August 31, 2016, 06:57:32 PM
Once again a big thank you to all you guys.

Let the good times roll

DD
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Gzehoo on August 31, 2016, 08:11:28 PM
Only Kalex or can I expect also other Moto2 bikes?

Anyway, can't wait to try it :)
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: matty0l215 on August 31, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
Only Kalex or can I expect also other Moto2 bikes?

Anyway, can't wait to try it :)

Give it time ;)
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: pacopastor34 on September 01, 2016, 05:56:53 PM
Very fun, some laps yesterday night in Aragon and it was very fun. IMO I would expect it a bit stiffer for a Moto2 but hey, I didn't ride a Moto2 and maybe my fingers are a bit heavy. I need some more laps. Thank you and congrats.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Warlock on September 01, 2016, 06:26:58 PM
Thank you Paco.
Feel free to report again whatever you think after sometime riding it.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Gzehoo on September 02, 2016, 06:00:04 AM
OK, I was testing this bike and... although I like this shape of bike, I think that Manu's physic is just better. But it's still good to see more bikes for this game ;)

PS: Maybe it's better to make also stripes on the tyres, not only Dunlop logos. The same with Moto3.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Hawk on September 02, 2016, 08:22:56 AM
OK, I was testing this bike and... although I like this shape of bike, I think that Manu's physic is just better. But it's still good to see more bikes for this game ;)

PS: Maybe it's better to make also stripes on the tyres, not only Dunlop logos. The same with Moto3.

Can you elaborate more on what you think the difference is between the two physics models that makes you think one is better than the other?  :)

Thanks for the feedback Gzehoo.  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Alone on September 02, 2016, 11:41:26 AM


PS: Maybe it's better to make also stripes on the tyres, not only Dunlop logos. The same with Moto3.

But they only wear dunlop tyres.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: RiccoChicco on September 02, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
PS: Maybe it's better to make also stripes on the tyres, not only Dunlop logos. The same with Moto3.

I also like to have stripes on tyres, but Moto2 2013 don't use that so we can't add stripes since it's supposed to replicate the reality :P
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Alone on September 03, 2016, 04:01:30 PM
Only Kalex or can I expect also other Moto2 bikes?


You can expect the same bikes that we did for beta 4
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: doubledragoncc on September 03, 2016, 04:59:31 PM
Can you list them pls Alone as I cant remember that far back Im an old fart

DD
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Gzehoo on September 03, 2016, 05:34:13 PM
AFAIK, there were:

-Kalex Moto2 '13
-Suter MMX2
-Speed Up SF13
-Moriwaki MD600
-Motobi TSR5
-Tech3 Mistral 610
-FTR M213
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: doubledragoncc on September 03, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
COOL thanx bro

DD
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Alone on September 03, 2016, 06:39:22 PM
Thanks Gzehoo.
Lol DD!
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: davidboda46 on September 05, 2016, 10:27:18 PM
Hi guys. First off, thanks for your awesome work. Second I have some feedback, and it's more my opinion than fact. The bike needs more engine brake. I don't know if you guys are planing to incorporate EB in the "garage" but now the bike has a tendency to just run wide on corner exit even off throttle because it's just "rolling on". Have to compensate with rear brake to close the trajectory or go into the corners, hitting the apex very late to make the turn. If you gonna include EB, then I guess this will not be a problem (if the running wide does not have another reason as well).

The other thing is that the bike feels a little bit too nimble at low speeds and initial turning. I've never ridden a Moto2 bike so I can't say if they are supposed to feel so "light", but maybe it's a tad too much? Just a thought. At faster speeds it is not so much of an issue.

Again, thank you for all your work.

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Alone on September 06, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
Thank you David.  According to FIM rules, Moto2's engine is a HRC-kitted CBR600RR engine with quickshifter and has one simple ECU which many changes from the team are banned, and from what we searched, traction control and engine brake is not allowed to set, so it wont be a EB option in the garage.
We are still working on the physics for the next update and your feedback is really apreciated. The nimble thing could be caused for the weight distribution (just a guessed thought :) ). We (I, totally my fault) had a mistake on the tyre radius that is fixed now. It could be a cause too.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: JorgeNsr on September 06, 2016, 11:52:57 PM
Thats right... the FIM allow have on box electronic settings for adjust engine brake parameter, but the engineers can make differents setings on clutch for take more or less engine brake.... rather...more or less action of anti-rebound clutch. The game cant show this mechanical adjustment but on my opinion its good have one or two steps for adjust for everyone`s taste.
Regards
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 09, 2016, 07:04:13 PM
I tried Manus first, and really liked it. But I feel CAWS' version is more realistic in the way it handles. Runs a bit too wide, but whatever.

Edit: Yup. Double-checked, and it certainly feels more realistic than Manu's.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Hawk on September 14, 2016, 02:40:05 PM
Update #1 Release :  "CAWS M2 2013 Bike V1.1".


NOTE: All CAWS Team Bike MODS will be released via Matty's Bikemod Database.



Hawk.
Published C/o: CAWS MOD Team
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 18, 2016, 04:57:19 PM
Nice bike, but could anything be done about the first-person camera? It's really bad. Even worse than the NR750's. I read something (somewhere, in an instance of time too distant to recall) about a "geomed", and its usefulness in changing the first-person camera angle. Know where I could find the program?
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Alone on September 20, 2016, 02:05:27 PM
Don't know about that program, but in the next update it will be changed.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: h106frp on September 20, 2016, 04:36:07 PM
Nice bike, but could anything be done about the first-person camera? It's really bad. Even worse than the NR750's. I read something (somewhere, in an instance of time too distant to recall) about a "geomed", and its usefulness in changing the first-person camera angle. Know where I could find the program?

Just use bikeED to move the rider and tank cameras
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 20, 2016, 11:16:22 PM
Thanks :). Fixed it, more or less.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: r1rossi on September 21, 2016, 01:40:48 PM
Thanks :). Fixed it, more or less.

What is this download?
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 21, 2016, 06:50:02 PM
The modified geom and cfg files, for the first-person camera fix.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: r1rossi on September 21, 2016, 06:54:10 PM
just replace them in the folder right?
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 21, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
Yes
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on September 21, 2016, 07:11:09 PM
just replace them in the folder right?

Use this .geom instead
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 13, 2016, 09:23:03 PM
Is this bike in the bikeMOD database....?? an does it have the updates from urban? A DL link would be nice here too!
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: Gzehoo on November 13, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
Quote
NOTE: All CAWS Team Bike MODS will be released via Matty's "Bikemod" Database.

It should be in BikeMOD as M2_2013_Kalex.
Title: Re: CAWS MOD Team - M2 2013 Kalex Bike Release.
Post by: matty0l215 on November 13, 2016, 09:43:16 PM
Yeh, that needs to be changed. Dunno how that slipped through.

It will be fixed for the next BikeMOD