With the MotoGP 2017 season approaching rapidly, I thought it would be fun to see if you guys have any predictions for the upcoming racing.
Personally, I think the season is going to be decided between Marquez and Vinales. If the Yamaha rider can find a consistent race pace and stay up, I can even see him winning the title this year. Hopefully, we will see same level of competition as last year, with 9 different winners, although that could be tricky to repeat with factories having more experience with electronics and tyres.
QuoteHopefully, we will see same level of competition as last year, with 9 different winners, although that could be tricky to repeat with factories having more experience with electronics and tyres.
Well, last 4 races have been won by Marquez, Crutchlow, Dovizioso and Lorenzo, so... everything is possible.
Personally, I'd like to see Rossi's 10th title. But to be honest, this season will be Marquez vs Vinales. I won't be also suprised if Iannone wins with Suzuki.
Don't count Lorenzo out. Maybe they will get the package working.
My money would go safely on Marquez: he will have a bike as good as the best ones and he's probably better than the other riders (at the moment).
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 05, 2017, 11:17:06 AM
Don't count Lorenzo out. Maybe they will get the package working.
Haha Lorenzo's going to suffer this year buddy.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on March 05, 2017, 06:32:25 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 05, 2017, 11:17:06 AM
Don't count Lorenzo out. Maybe they will get the package working.
Haha Lorenzo's going to suffer this year buddy.
+1 ;D
I can't see Lorenzo doing too well on the Ducati this season, maybe if they use it as development time to make the bike suit his riding style, they can fight with the other factories in 2018.
And I thing Rossi, Vinales and Marquez will fight out the championship, even though Rossi might have the worst chances. But if the contenders will be relatively even, after the first 3 races, unlike last year, I think they all have a good chance. Lorenzo will have the worst season of his carrer und Iannone will have his best season, just like Suzuki will have a more compatitive season, but still not as good as the big 3, maybe as good as Ducati. Aprilia might end up quitting or having a really good season. I think Jonas Folger will have a really good rookie season. He showed great potential and maybe could be the successor of Pedrosa, who will have a even worse season then last season. Also Crutchlow could be the successor of Pedrosa, because he will have a outstanding season. I think, Pedrosa will ride his last 2 seasons... Zarco will be as good as Folger and this will be a nice fight. The other rookies will have a difficult season. Rabat will ride his last season, the Pramac Team will be good, Miller will not be as good as last season and the rest stays like it is :)
MCF
Crutchlow, Iannone, Vinales, or rossi! any of those il be happy ;)
How happy would I be if Crutchlow was to win a championship, Cal has to be one of the most entertaining riders in MotoGP at this time.
Crutchlow don't want to go to the factory team, and they don't want him there. 2 main reasons, he is too outspoken, he is not Spanish. Cal don't want it because of too many rules and pr-obligations. But he is in good team now, as close to a factory team as you can get without actually being in one.
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Rossi will be the man to beat this year.
Odds from one betting site:
- Marquez: 2.20
- Vinales: 3.00
- Rossi: 6.00
- Predrosa: 17.00
- Dovizioso: 20.00
- Iannone: 34.00
Wow, Rossi @6 and Vinales @3 ... at these odds, I'll take Rossi between the two. But I still take MM at 2.20 :)
It is impossible predict the motogp champ, more easy with the SBK Jonathan Rea is at 1.35 :-X
Personally I would like to see Rossi close out his fantastic career with a 10th title :)
I have a gut feeling he is in the cards, after all he has been placing 2nd in the championship for a few year now. He's just one place away with one thing on his mind!
I will point out this, I'm glad we have some great talent ahead of us for the non Rossi years to come. I was crushed when Simoncelli died!
If you consider consistency then again Rossi. Lorenzo will be teething as well as Vinales and everyone else who changed manufactures.
Iannone is an animal!
I'd bet 20 € on Iannone. I mean, if he wins it's 680€ lol
Quote from: Alby46 on March 13, 2017, 11:04:18 PM
I'd bet 20 € on Iannone. I mean, if he wins it's 680€ lol
Sounds good to me! ;D 8) Can't count him out.. Or Lorenzo!
I honestly want Lorenzo to do well on the Duke, only for their sake. But i feel another Rossi era coming on :P
Who's willing to throw Johann Zarco's name out there?
I've got Zarco as rookie of the year, mind you I didn't expect him to start off this fast.
Zarco and Vinales both were a satisfying breeze of fresh air. Vinales will do very well, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi still wound up winning the world championship. As for Marquez, It would please me to see him suffer as much as Lorenzo is going to this year.
My prediction for 2017:
1 marquez
2 rossi
3 dovizioso
4 vinales
5 crutchlow
6 zarco
7 lorenzo
...
Nice idea ;D my:
1_ Rossi
2_ Vinales
3_ Marquez
4_ Zarco
5_ Dovizioso
6_ Lorenzo
...
1 Rossi
2 Marquez
3 Vinales
4 Pedrosa
5 Lorenzo
6 Dovizioso
Zarco best rookie since ages?
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 30, 2017, 08:26:37 AM
Zarco best rookie since ages?
I think so. Remember though, that he's on Rossi's 2016 bike (which isn't much different from the 2017 bike, according to Rossi). This is why he was able to lead the race for as many laps as he did before crashing. The same thing (crash), more or less, happened to Lorenzo in 2014. Dude was leading, then crashed at turn 2. Perhaps this proves Maverick isn't as far ahead of everyone as it seems.
Well, Marquez did win the championship in 2013, with a factory team mind you but still impressive.
In 2013 the factory Honda was by quite a margin, the best motorcycle there. Also, if Jorge hadn't been injured, Marquez wouldn't have won.
Argentina Qualifying Results
Fascinating... it would appear, Karel Abraham is rich enough to buy himself a top position on the Q2 time-sheet
http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/243468/1/motogp-argentina-full-qualifying-results.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/243468/1/motogp-argentina-full-qualifying-results.html)
You can't buy that sort of speed on a two year old Ducati.
He did bloody well today. And so did Cal, goes to show what a leveler the rain is ;D
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 08, 2017, 09:08:52 PM
He did bloody well today. And so did Cal, goes to show what a leveler the rain is ;D
Leveller, except for MM it seems :)
https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/850756227147509760 (https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/850756227147509760)
I've done this a couple times in the game, although it usually doesn't end this well :P
Remember what I said about Lorenzo? Lol, he's SUFFERING. It's a shame that dirty SOB Marquez isn't suffering with him.
I don't understand the hate for Marquez, I have no strong feelings towards him personally, but I can't see any reasons to hate him as much as some MotoGP fans seem to
It's because of what he did in 2015. When he intentionally rode to slow Rossi down in Philip Island, I was the VERY FIRST person to say it on social media. All the dumb Rossi fans were busy insulting Ianone on his Facebook page for coming 3rd ahead of Rossi, and I was the only one saying, "What the fuck are you swearing at Ianone for? Marquez was intentionally slowing Rossi down for no reason other than to prevent him from catching Jorge." I could see it before even Rossi did. It's only after Rossi corroborated my statements, brought time-sheet data to back it up, and publicly accused Marquez, that people suddenly switched their opinion. Most of them, had no legitimate reason to switch their opinion, but sided with Rossi just because he's Rossi.
In Sepang, we all saw the way Marquez was riding. The championship was long over for him, and he sought to ruin any chance Rossi had of doing well. After Rossi slowed down and ran Marquez wide, Marquez slowed down behind him, then suddenly rode straight into Rossi's leg. It seemed intentional. Why in the hell would Marquez ride into Rossi's leg? But that's what the slow-mo footage showed. In a situation like that, Marquez KNOWS exactly how to control his throttle hand.
After the incident for which the replay footage showed it was OBVIOUS Rossi didn't kick him, Marquez said Rossi had kicked him. Why? That's what he thought everybody thought, given how it looked at first. Marquez said this before he knew what the various slow-motion camera angles could prove. When Race Direction called Rossi and Marquez in, to discuss what happened, Marquez could be seen smiling quite happily as Rossi walked in, and before the door was shut.
After reviewing the evidence, Race Direction said, "No matter what Marquez says, we believe he was deliberately interfering with Rossi". However, when MotoGP's official social media pages reported it, they straight-up REMOVED what Race Direction had said, from their posts. That alone shows they conspired to protect Marquez".
What's more, is that Lorenzo admitted after winning the championship, that Marquez and Pedrosa rode in a manner that would protect him because he was Spanish, and they were Spanish. Of course Pedrosa had nothing to do with it, but Lorenzo didn't know.
Interestingly, many of those official news stories covering Lorezo's self indictment slowly started disappearing, and finding one now, won't be that easy.
Marquez is a scumbag, and in fact, he's been that way since long before he ever hit puberty.
https://www.youtube.com/v/PG6F22eztjc
Many champions were scumbags at some point. Including Rossi or in F1 Senna and Schumacher.
Maybe... but to completely fuck up someone's title hopes through nothing but malice and spite the way Marquez did, is something else. It is a despicable thing, the like of which people have never seen in any sport. At least, the likes of Schumacher were "scumbags" through desperate efforts to fight for victory and world championships. Never just to destroy someone's hopes and dreams.
For Marquez to be considered better than Rossi in the history books he has to win more world championships, so to do that you stop Rossi getting more. History will remember the records not how they were made.
It's a sad fact to be considered the best you have to be ruthless. It means winning the 'game of sport' but failing the game of life.
I believe Rossi would be just as ruthless if the positions were switched - don't let the " I'm verri appi" facade fool you.
But Yeh I would despise anyone who effectively cheats in a game. Same as footballers feigning injury. Hello that is CHEATING! Scumbags lol 😁 :)
Well that's life. Lorenzo's suffering more than the true culprit, but hey that's better than nothing. Lol.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on April 09, 2017, 07:02:53 AM
I was the VERY FIRST person to say it on social media.
(https://img.memesuper.com/79e4849f97ce27f57c9a395cd71b94da_can-i-have-your-autograph-can-i-have-your-autograph-meme_400-400.jpeg)
That was a real race today, both scumbags dumped it.
Shame about Danny going down
Lorenzo proves once again he aint got what it takes to STAY a champion like Rossie. 350 races and 223 trophies!!!
VIÑALES needed that Yam and is gonna be hard to beat. 2.9 seconds lead ät the line
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on April 09, 2017, 08:11:39 PM
That was a feal race today, both scumbags dumped it.
Hahaha, God is good.
Poor Dovi, two years in a row he has been taken out by someone else :P
Other than that, racing was disappointing, with exception of moto3 of course
Still waiting to see moto3 so DONT say a word guys lol
DD
Quote from: miki on April 10, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
Poor Dovi, two years in a row he has been taken out by someone else :P
Other than that, racing was disappointing, with exception of moto3 of course
Wat? The MotoGP race was pretty good, because of the fights from the "slower guys". Didn't you see Zarco drifting around the track? I think, it was a pretty good race.
Yes, it was quite a good race. I think someone (cough... miki) is just upset that Marquez crashed... lol.
I don't have a horse in the race, if anything I want Crutchlow to do well; there just weren't any lap by lap battles and little to no actual on track overtaking. I realise it was hard to get any battles because of all the crashes but still.
So disappointing to see Vinalez down, I was hoping for a 4-way battle
For the love of God fellas please don't discuss the MotoGP race here for a few days some of us cant watch it on the day and have to catch it later. Bad form. Thx :)
Quote from: Napalm Nick on April 23, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
For the love of God fellas please don't discuss the MotoGP race here for a few days some of us cant watch it on the day and have to catch it later. Bad form. Thx :)
Why just not look in this specific thread
What do you mean why not? If I have to explain that then theres no hope, try common decency?
FFS thanks for fuck all then
No Spoiler > Great race.
Since it's been over a week...
Oh boy the championship has been blown open with Vinalez going down. If Rossi keeps the consistency going, Vinalez and Marquez keep tripping themselves up, I can see the doctor winning his 10th title this year.
Hopefully it will make for some good racing throughout the season.
Also it will be interesting if Rossi can win on any of the tracks he likes.
Haha, I think Nick may have inadvertently killed this topic. Days after a race, I don't think that many people are interested in talking about it. Especially, Considering the vague nature of that "a few days" time period. I think a fixed unit of time needs to be applied, but it can't be too long. Certainly people don't like being forced to obey arbitrary restrictions, and rather than potentially waste their time on conflict of any kind, they'd rather not say anything at all.
just watching free practice at Le Mans, and i thought something about the track wasn't correlating with the circuit i know.
looks like the track has been modified a bit since the last race here - does anyone know more about the changes?
and hopefully the new layout will soon be available for us in GPB, as well, hint hint.... ;D
Quote from: Napalm Nick on April 23, 2017, 08:10:00 PM
What do you mean why not? If I have to explain that then theres no hope, try common decency?
FFS thanks for fuck all then
Why would you forbid others to post here when the race is done for a couple of days when it is so simple; just avoid places where you cannot see the results/news.
::)
Do whatever makes you happy and dont forget an eye rolling emoticon.
I know they resurfaced Le Mans but I haven't heard anything about layout changes.
Jack is a very lucky man to walk away from this one.
https://twitter.com/btsportmotogp/status/865902869400113152 (https://twitter.com/btsportmotogp/status/865902869400113152)
Ooochi ouch. Glad he's ok. :o
luckily for me, i saw Jack talking to marshals after the crash BEFORE i saw the actual crash. it was horrific to watch - Jack is so, so lucky....
Jack is a sturdy bloke, he came out for Q2 45 minutes later :D
Its never good watching someone crash.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/248635/1/crutchlow-i-dont-know-why-we-come-here-in-may.html
How about that Cal Crutchlow, he's amazing!
I use to think his gibberish was cute, now it makes me want to puke! Crutchlow is a a blow hard. Can't wait to read why he wasn't on pole today, obviously no fault of his own.
I like Crutchlow, he definitely moans a lot, about everything, and anything. But there is no denying he's an entertaining guy to watch; even if it's just for his crashes ;D
He's British. Of course we complain about the weather, It's one of our few conversation topics :P
Well I certainly will not blame the entire British race just because of one prat, as you say or douche as I say. ;D
I get humor and all or poking a rib or two but Cal seriously believes his own legendary status. I bet he thinks about Vinales and Zarco a lot. As far as the British go I think Redding is the best of them.
Come to the UK and you will see how much we talk about the weather ;D :P
Cal has always been my favourite British rider. Never was a fan of Smith, he's a bit to quiet. Redding is prabably in 2nd and with a decent amount of time left in his career I hope to see more of him :)
Redding seems like a genuine bloke, his interview with 44teeth was entertaining and he seems like he knows what he's talking about.
I still can't get over the crash from Miller. He was just very very lucky. If that bike would have hit him when coming down first, he probably would have been dead. It is a good reminder that it indeed it is a dangerous sport, just like Salom reminded us last year.
Every rider should make a mental note to not to be braking too hard during lean in turn 1 in Le Mans. He lost traction on the front for a split second and he could not get the bike to lean to the other side and was bound to hit the outside rail. Next rider might not be so lucky. But maybe the other riders are braking smoother there.
as tough as he is, something tells me Jack is going to feel a little tender today..... :)
Quote from: CapeDoctor on May 21, 2017, 07:06:15 AM
as tough as he is, something tells me Jack is going to feel a little tender today..... :)
Definitely! ;D but he is a tough mofo.
not watched it but seen the skittles in moto3 :o was it oil??
Yeah, someone cracked an engine casing on a first lap spill and left a nice long oil streak over the track.
Here it is for those who missed it: https://streamable.com/k6fe1 (https://streamable.com/k6fe1)
Not much of a spoiler, the race was red flagged, obviously, and restarted.
Oouuufff terrible that is >:( i know it's not easy but it should have been spotted.
Yeah, it's not very often that everyone by the track misses an oil spill this long. Luckily nobody got hurt.
Great result for Zarco. Second at his homerace on the old Yamaha! Who would have thought he could make it to the end on those softs.
Definitely a big race for Zarco, more disappointing for a couple title contenders (no spoilers :-X)
Quote from: miki on May 21, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
Definitely a big race for Zarco, more disappointing for a couple title contenders (no spoilers :-X)
Race is over... why no spoilers?
Quote from: Boerenlater on May 21, 2017, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: miki on May 21, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
Definitely a big race for Zarco, more disappointing for a couple title contenders (no spoilers :-X)
Race is over... why no spoilers?
Some people haven't been
able to seen the race yet, that's why. ::)
Hawk.
you'd literally need to live in a cave if you don't want to see the results lol i haven't seen any of it either.. but i already know the results. get over yourselves.
Quote from: Hawk on May 21, 2017, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on May 21, 2017, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: miki on May 21, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
Definitely a big race for Zarco, more disappointing for a couple title contenders (no spoilers :-X)
Race is over... why no spoilers?
Some people haven't been able to seen the race yet, that's why. ::)
Hawk.
Then do not deliberately visit a thread where results may or may not be posted about a race that has been done already.
If I haven't watched it yet I'm not going to visit this exact thread to bitch about spoilers.
Quote from: Boerenlater on May 21, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 21, 2017, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on May 21, 2017, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: miki on May 21, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
Definitely a big race for Zarco, more disappointing for a couple title contenders (no spoilers :-X)
Race is over... why no spoilers?
Some people haven't been able to seen the race yet, that's why. ::)
Hawk.
Then do not deliberately visit a thread where results may or may not be posted about a race that has been done already.
If I haven't watched it yet I'm not going to visit this exact thread to bitch about spoilers.
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on May 21, 2017, 04:51:44 PM
you'd literally need to live in a cave if you don't want to see the results lol i haven't seen any of it either.. but i already know the results. get over yourselves.
Would it be so difficult to create a specific thread for it, clearly named with "
Spoiler Alert" in the title? :P
Hawk.
PS: Personally this doesn't bother me, I tend to watch it live and/or don't mind knowing the results, but I can understand those that don't want spoilers posting without thought for others first.
I did make a new thread last round but it seemed nobody cared
why not just edit the title of this thread, rather than creating a new thread for each round?
Quote from: CapeDoctor on May 22, 2017, 03:42:51 AM
why not just edit the title of this thread, rather than creating a new thread for each round?
+1 ;)
Hawk
I have no idea how to do that
Go to the first post and click modify and you should be able to change the title there.
Thanks Matty, I was looking for a button somewhere separate.
Any thoughts about the season so far since we are on the halfway point?
Im loving this season so far!
So many different riders at the pointy end, 10 points seperating the top 4 and like you say were only half way tbrough ;D
The fact it's hard to predict who will be OK on the next track is kinda fun, but at the same time it's super weird: one track a bike dominates, the next it's in 10th position.
Plus last year bikes performing better than this years one, factory ones doing worse than private ones. Plus some very weird crashes (inexplicable ones I mean).
There's something fishy, don't know, maybe the tires ...
But yeah, the fight for then championship should be quite funky to watch.
Yeah you're right there Hornet - the fact that rookie riders like Zarco and Folger are competing at the pointy end backs that up. No disrespect to either rider as they're both potential c'ship winners but a few years ago you'd never see a rookie on a Tech3 consistently challenging for podiums.
Like you say Hornet, I think some riders/manufacturers are struggling to understand the tyres...whenever they have issues, it seems to always be with tyre grip or longevity...and there's no apparent pattern behind it.
But all that being said - it's making for fantastic racing and a great year so far!
2017 for MM93 8)
Quite a race in Austria !
Yeah , nice one indeed :)
awesome race - loved seeing Dovi battle like that for the win!
Those Yamaha's are really struggling with tyre life aren't they - looks like it's between the honda and duke here on in
For those who didn't get this yet, Rossi is medically cleared for Aragon.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/09/21/the-battle-is-on-fire-motorland-revs-up-for-motogp/240252
I take my hat off to him for trying...
Just amazing. I've read some are even doubting the real magnitude of his injury (because for that kind of injury, the recover has been just incredible).
Anyway, yeah, hat off just for trying. Let's see how it feels tomorrow.
[Motegi]: holy crap ! WHAT.A.FIGHT !!
Was worth getting up for so early indeed
;D ;D ;D
Damn! I missed it! :P ;D
Holy shit that last corner!!
One of the best fights we've seen in motogp indeed
Yeah it was a great race.
AUS gp: great stuff from Rossi, just amazing that soon after the accident. But cheezus, Marquez is unstoppable ... 50% pole rate in motogp is simply not human.
Yes i think Marquez is going to win the championship again this year, i don't understand what's ducati's problem in AUS GP, sad for Dovi. anyway it was a great race with epic battle ....
Dovi said that the problem was the turining of the bike. Everyone knows that Ducati is not able to change directions as fast as Honda or Yamaha and PI track was one of those tracks where Ducati has reached its limit.
This is becoming a habit ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY0zJrk5ZnQ
This guy is out of this world. I have tried few times to do similar safe on pit bike and its so hard... you need to be so focused on tires grip...
I think that if Marquez stays like this, he will become the best driver in history.
I know that many can not see, that you hate him for what happened to Rossi ... but today is the best.
It's just my opinion, now you can stone me ...
I am not a fan of Rossi. With no doubt he is the legend and the best out there but I didn't like his dirty psychological games... as for Marquez, for me he a diamond with natural talent. I came to MotoGP too late and didn't see Rossi in his early days but now I see that when he puts too much presssure on himself (like winning 10th WC tile) he starts to act strange. Now when he lost that pressure he is that nice guy. But still for me he has two faces.
Anyway Im Aleix Espargaro and Dovi fan...
Missed Phillips Island and cant find it on YT anyone got a link?
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on October 28, 2017, 05:06:54 PM
Missed Phillips Island and cant find it on YT anyone got a link?
DD
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/comments/77z6mi/request_motogp_australia_race/
TY B ur a diamond
DD
YW bro
And what a class act Jorge is ;D could've won but instead helped the team.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/886500/1/dovizioso-jorge-good-teammate-unlike-some
He nearly fell off the bike :P
Besides it would be career suicide if he hadn't of let him through at some point.
https://streamable.com/lukm2
Dovi deserved to win the race, did what he had to do to make the world live for him, this year he is doing great.
So... the season finished.
Marc Marquez deserved his championship title in 2017.
I was hoping for Dovizioso, but at the end of it all, he is the greatest hero in this season.
And after many comments (mainly from MotoGP on Facebook) I disagree about Lorenzo.
I would understand if Dovizioso was the leader in classification and needed to be 1-2 positions behind Marquez, but today it was impossible to beat Marquez.
Not only in the race, but also in standings.
And these comments about Lorenzo who "worked for Marquez"... are you serious?
Even before his crash, Jorge was much faster than Dovizioso and was going to overtake Dani and Johann.
You really think that Dovi would overtake Dani and Johann?
Don't blame Jorge, because Ducati's team orders just didn't make any sense - in this situation, where Dovizioso had too much points disadvantage to Marquez, nothing would help Andrea to become the champion.
But again - Andrea Dovizioso is the hero of this season. Could anybody imagine one year ago that he will be able to win 6 races and be Marc's title rival?
PS: I know what is the opinion about Jorge, but please - every objective opinion must be against him?
People who say he worked for Marc are just still salty about 2015 :P
And this is what Dovi himself had to say
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/dovizioso-lorenzo-didn-t-hold-me-up-valencia-977728/
28 crashes for Marquez this season (plus 3 or 4 saves from a parallel universe), and he still manages to win by a fair margin. I really can't think how he does it, there's just no explanation. Luckily for us that he tends to crash a bit too much, otherwise the season would be over halfway through.
He let Zarco through and the commentators said "He's grown up, he did the smart move". And then he tried to win a race he only needed to finish 11th, went wide (problem downshifting? that was my impression), made an amazing save, and finished 3rd. I don't know how his parents and bosses can avoid heart attacks every time he rides on a track.
Great season for Ducati and Dovi in particular. Jorge needs to step up next year or he's done. Yamaha back to the drawing board: being beaten by your own past-season bike from a private team is a bit too much.
Also nice to see some results from Aprilia, Suzuki and KTMs: the more the merrier.
It was clear that for a few laps Dovi was faster but then when the whole mapping 8 thing started Lorenzo picked his pace us because at one point they were both on the back of Pedrosa.
This has been a brilliant season on the whole. Each race being full of action (much better watching than most other types of top level racing in my opinion) Such a shame it ended that way (Dovi crashing out, handing Marc the win) But it was pretty damn secure for Marc to win requardless.
I can't deny though when I saw Marc run wide into the gravel I was shouting fall off fall off fall off!! ;D
Oh well, Roll Next season
Words of Dovi (speaking of MM):
""Ha una velocità pazzesca, riesce ad andare forte quando vuole ed è l'unico a riuscirci perché tutti gli altri, compreso Valentino Rossi, se la devono preparare. Lui invece vuole sentire e oltrepassare il limite per poi gestirlo: è l'unico ad avere la mentalità giusta per farlo. Serve fortuna per non farsi male, ma così le cadute non ti condizionano"
Quick translation: "He's incredibly fast, he can do it when he wants like nobody. Others, including VR need to prepare for that. He can feel the limit and go beyond it in order to manage it: he's unique in that. You need to be lucky not to get hurt, but then you're not affected by crashes".
I think he's spot on: the fact he crashes a lot just shows a constant willingness to reach and exceed the limit. I can't see anybody else doing this these days.
Yeah , he is soooo lucky not to get hurt, opposite to Pedrosa, every time he crashes he get hurt.
Quote from: HornetMaX on November 13, 2017, 12:39:49 PM
I think he's spot on: the fact he crashes a lot just shows a constant willingness to reach and exceed the limit. I can't see anybody else doing this these days.
Exactly. MM has two different mindsets. One is the one that is constantly trying to reach the limit and to just be as fucking fast as possible. That is why he crashes so often in practices and qualifyings. But Marquez has also developed into a guy that can drive with his head, which he often shows in races. That is why he does not crash more often than the other championship contenders. Crashes in races 2017: Maq (2), Dov (2)*, Vin (2), Ros (2), Ped (2) (*Dov was crashed by A.Espargaro in Argentina, so really only 1 crash caused by him in races).
But again, in practices he is pretty much really looking for the limit and is willing to go beyond it. In QP2 in Valencia he crashed on the first fast lap of his second stint (if I remember correctly). He had talked with his crew chief about the tyres not being at perfect temperatures in the first right-hander after several left turns but he decided to push anyways and try it. He did and crashed : ) but still, such a crash provides him with very good information on the grip-limit, especially for the first laps in the race. As for his luck to not get injured: I agree that there is always a chance and to some degree it is luck ofc. But he crashes 90% via lowsiders whilst over-braking which is not that injury-prone. And I assume, if one crashes on such a regular basis one just becomes a cat and knows how to avoid injuries. Proof is that Sam Lowes also does not get hurt :P.
On a sidenote: Yamaha factory decided on short notice to use the 2016 bike for the race. I think they have some sleepless nights until March 2018 ;)
Well said Stout. To crash is one thing but to know how to crash is other. To learn how to fall and do not get injured is also very important. Its not just a matter of luck...
Quote from: Stout Johnson on November 13, 2017, 04:31:40 PM
On a sidenote: Yamaha factory decided on short notice to use the 2016 bike for the race. I think they have some sleepless nights until March 2018 ;)
Oh boy, somebody is totally lost over there.
Yes it looks like they have no idea which direction should they choose. And I remeber at the start of the year when a guy from Eneos during VR bike show told me that MV will be a champion for sure.
Yeah..
I reckon they should hire (no need to pay him, my guess he will do it for free ::)) Casey Stoner...
Probably after 2 or 3 laps he will show them the yamaha is not so bad after all ... ;)