https://www.youtube.com/v/xOkViqarKvY
Some new features:
- New great 3d models (but the 3d engine is the same of the old games)
- Finally 60 fps
- Nonsense new modes (manager mode? :-\ )
- Better sounds
- Fixed several tracks
- Better AI (less aggressive)
:o
any comments on the physics, which seems to become more dumbed down with each new Milestone release?
Quote from: CapeDoctor on May 06, 2017, 05:40:57 AM
any comments on the physics, which seems to become more dumbed down with each new Milestone release?
The phisics seems good (for a console-game) the big problem in these games is the IA, not realistic and too stupid, and the controllers support and setting, but its a Milestone's game so... lol
Its not a sim but just a game, also if a member of Milestone he said this in an interview in italian: "With all helper off, MotoGP17 is a real sim" ;D
Probably more like simcade as Forza or Gran Turismo?
I don't know about the AI riders behaviour, but I'd say the real riders behaviour isn't a lot better than the AI's in these milestone games either! Haha! ;D
They just make it too easy not to crash; and all the bumping into each other and all that crap without any real consequences, it just makes it all a total joke! :P
Hawk.
Quote from: teeds on May 06, 2017, 11:14:57 AM
Quote from: Blackheart on May 05, 2017, 11:12:01 PM
- Fixed several tracks
Ahh so it's a patch then :)
A big DLC... 60 euro is too much for a old engine, with few changes.
good for a thrash now n again ;) ;D
i like the moto2 hope its better in the next one.. this is from VRTG lol
best laps around 4mins..
https://www.youtube.com/v/-wjmEVT6A-s
Still all these games are shown in 3rd persn fuckin pussies!!!
Quote from: doubledragoncc on May 06, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
Still all these games are shown in 3rd persn fuckin pussies!!!
Some people may want to actually ride in 1st person, but I doubt
hardly anyone wants to "watch" in 1st person, that's why. Lol! :P
Hawk.
lol ;D ;D :-* :-*
Quote from: Hawk on May 06, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on May 06, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
Still all these games are shown in 3rd persn fuckin pussies!!!
Some people may want to actually ride in 1st person, but I doubt hardly anyone wants to "watch" in 1st person, that's why. Lol! :P
Hawk.
A certain genre on porn sites show quite the opposite ;)
Milestone Logic (attachment):
Quote from: JamoZ on May 07, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: Hawk on May 06, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on May 06, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
Still all these games are shown in 3rd persn fuckin pussies!!!
Some people may want to actually ride in 1st person, but I doubt hardly anyone wants to "watch" in 1st person, that's why. Lol! :P
Hawk.
A certain genre on porn sites show quite the opposite ;)
How Jamoz is still so fun after years and years , is this guys the Rossi of fun ?
https://www.youtube.com/v/UGlzw0GNeWU
Damn, tried yesterday the full game and is so good! I played just 2 hours... so something can be wrong or change in the time.
Pro
- Great Framerate, also with old pc, very stable and all new bikes models are beautiful.
- Good sounds (Tried just the MotoGP cat)
- Far better bikes attitude, its not a real phisics but its very fun.
- Better AI.
- Load a track its amazing fast now. (10 seconds on a laptop with textures at the max)
Cons
- The collisions between bikes are wrong and stupid.
- The extra bikes are recycled from the old chapters.
- The cost is too high.
Amazing from the Milestone, again its just a game not a sim or what else but with a "old" engine this is a jewel.
I think the 2stroke sound is terrible. But maybe it is really hard to reproduce it in games.
Quote from: Boerenlater on June 17, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
I think the 2stroke sound is terrible. But maybe it is really hard to reproduce it in games.
Yeh, its hard. But i think they have enough resources to do it well.
Quote from: Boerenlater on June 17, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
I think the 2stroke sound is terrible. But maybe it is really hard to reproduce it in games.
Yet not tried the 2 strokes, because for me are just a copy/paste from the old motogp games (imo its a nonsense pay for old contents...)
MotoGP and Moto2 sounds are the best never heard in a game.
Quote from: Warlock on June 17, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Boerenlater on June 17, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
I think the 2stroke sound is terrible. But maybe it is really hard to reproduce it in games.
Yeh, its hard. But i think they have enough resources to do it well.
The weird thing is that the 2 strokes in Ride 2 did sound very decent. The 2 strokes in MotoPG 17 sound utterly terrible. I don`t know what they are doing at milestone but it seems they just fuck up something on purpose every year.
Overall it`s a step in the right direction, as it is more or less Ride 2 with MotoGP bikes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFfGJgohvXA
Is Ride2 any good? I've played the first Ride game, but I found it rather disappointing, even compared with MotoGP 15,
Finaly played a bit of it.
first thoughts were not that good.
tried to edit it... and after a longgggg (zzzzzzz >:() time of digging through the files (and scrathing my head many times) i finaly found something i was looking for ::)
So instead of removing it (which i was about to do)... i will keep it on my HDD.
P.S
If there was an option for editable AI in GPBikes ......... ;)
This is also a question to Piboso, (if you do read this) i know you told me years ago.... but this is still not an option for GPBikes ?? to have some (smart) AI ??
Thats the Main and only reason i dont play GPBikes.
I just dont like to sit and wait for a online game....
With AI i can play Whatever/Whenever i want.
I add the Moto2 is great, the best category in the game, for sure. Aragon + Moto2 = a lot of fun.
Quote from: Blackheart on June 18, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
I add the Moto2 is great, the best category in the game, for sure. Aragon + Moto2 = a lot of fun.
Yeah but still its hard to crash when you pusch front brake as hard as possible.
After editing.... you will crash a little more easy ;).
pls back to GPBikes.
Only tried to explane why i try to edit these game all the time.
Bye
Euhm
Great AI .. NO
Playable yes.
In Motogp 16 i could make them nearly unbeatable.
But i also made they try to avoid in some sort of (poor) way.
but thats about it.
But Offline there is also an option to *rewind* so if you got hit.. rewind !!!
But once you know the lines it is pretty good. (to me)
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Quote from: Nicotine on June 21, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Garbage? Why its a game a very good game, its not sim, lol now there are the Piboso fanboys? ;D
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Nicotine on June 21, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Garbage? Why its a game a very good game, its not sim, lol now there are the Piboso fanboys? ;D
Even if it's not sell as a sim you can't say it's a very good game sorry
Quote from: guigui404 on June 21, 2017, 04:26:17 PM
Even if it's not sell as a sim you can't say it's a very good game sorry
? I play it and I'm having fun :o And i can't say that its a great game? (because it is I have no doubt about this)
Ok im back to play at MotoGP You wait the Manu's 1:1 conversion of all models of this "garbage"... ;D
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: guigui404 on June 21, 2017, 04:26:17 PM
Even if it's not sell as a sim you can't say it's a very good game sorry
? I play it and I'm having fun :o And i can't say that its a great game? (because it is I have no doubt about this)
Ok im back to play at MotoGP You wait the Manu's 1:1 conversion of all models of this "garbage"... ;D
Thats ok for you if you enjoy , but that doesn't mean it's a good game , still no improvements since years .. Oh for this "Ok im back to play at MotoGP You wait the Manu's 1:1 conversion of all models of this "garbage"... ;D" totally nosense as the 3D models are certainly great , but still doesn't make it a great game
To finish with , It's about motogp games not gpb , and I think , sorry i'm sure , I'vent say that gpb was a very good game
Im quite expert of the Milestone games (I had all MS games) so if someone tell me "bla, bla you can't say that its a good game..." I laugh so much, because its nonsense, if i dont know nothing about a game I dont speak shit about it ;D
I played something as 20 hours at MotoGP17 I see all possible bugs/glitch (online AI crazy, black screen, collisions, ugly textures for some tracks... etc...) but the improvement from VRTG are amazing for anyone that know this series.
So the posts like "its a shit, garbage, bla, bla" are uninteresting ;D
You did not describe anything about the game, so I can't do it a serious discussion with you. Try the game (also a not legit copy, i buy it later tested the free copy) for some days and back here.
I can well understand people liking Milestone MotoGP for it's eye-candy value, but as far as the bike physics are concerned it's total rubbish in comparison to GPBikes, no contest at all, not even anywhere close to realistic. :P
Milestones MotoGP is just something you use'd for a quick bit of fun, but that fun is soon turned to boredom and it's thrown in the cupboard hardly to see light of day again..... Then the fools go and buy it again the next year. Monkeys would have better sense don't you think?! Haha! ;D ;D
Hawk
PS: No offense to the monkeys. ;D
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 05:31:33 PM
Im quite expert of the Milestone games (I had all MS games) so if someone tell me "bla, bla you can't say that its a good game..." I laugh so much, because its nonsense, if i dont know nothing about a game I dont speak shit about it ;D
I played something as 20 hours at MotoGP17 I see all possible bugs/glitch (online AI crazy, black screen, collisions, ugly textures for some tracks... etc...) but the improvement from VRTG are amazing for anyone that know this series.
So the posts like "its a shit, garbage, bla, bla" are uninteresting ;D
You did not describe anything about the game, so I can't do it a serious discussion with you. Try the game (also a not legit copy, i buy it later tested the free copy) for some days and back here.
No need to play so much hours , It's quite the same as motogp13 , motogp14 , motogp15 , motogp 16 , appart from sound
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Nicotine on June 21, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Garbage? Why its a game a very good game, its not sim, lol now there are the Piboso fanboys? ;D
This is the official GPB forum, so it's not so surprising that the members don't like MotoGP, not even as a mindless game.
It's like registering to a Debussy discussion forum and write that you like Zedd... Some backlash must be expected. ;D
Also, it's about darn time for GPB to have some fanboys!!! Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 21, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
Because those half-assed wannabee sims don`t core.exe to desktop every 5 minutes? ::)
Quote from: JamoZ on June 21, 2017, 09:01:31 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 21, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
Because those half-assed wannabee sims don`t core.exe to desktop every 5 minutes? ::)
Salty much? :P
Really i dont have never had core.exe in gpb in this beta... in motogp17 some crash sometimes. But again for me are 2 different worlds anyone can play with both without problems, who make comparisons... has some huge problems ;D
I'm also thinking that, or there are people very unlucky like Jamoz, weither core.exe bug became a paranoia for GPB users. I play GP bikes on an old crap laptop, i 'm from Madagascar (you cannot beat me on slower internet connection) and my windows system is not the most clean istalled on the planet, i have core but not as much as Jamoz say lol ! My problem with GPB right now is just there is too few people play to play it online, and no AI or Ghost to play it offline ...... ah yes and the jumping bike on multiplayers ....
Quote from: JamoZ on June 21, 2017, 09:01:31 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 21, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
Because those half-assed wannabee sims don`t core.exe to desktop every 5 minutes? ::)
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 10:28:22 PM
Really i dont have never had core.exe in gpb in this beta...
Yep. I don't know why, nor how, but I don't remember having any core.exe in this beta. It's been a while ! Also, I use the LAA hack. Maybe it helps a lot.
Quote from: poumpouny on June 22, 2017, 08:18:12 AM
ah yes and the jumping bike on multiplayers ....
Greatly depends on internet connection...
Sorry guys, Let's talk about MOTOGP17.
Quote from: JamoZ on June 21, 2017, 09:01:31 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 21, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
Because those half-assed wannabee sims don`t core.exe to desktop every 5 minutes? ::)
I'll be honest here; I haven't had a core outside of my own fault (alt tabbing to desktop a lot) for a long time this beta.
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Nicotine on June 21, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Garbage? Why its a game a very good game, its not sim, lol now there are the Piboso fanboys? ;D
yeah i am GPB Fanatic fanboys ;)
yes its a good game before i know GPB ha ha ha.....its ajoke man, dont be seriously ;D
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 21, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: Blackheart on June 21, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Nicotine on June 21, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
before i know GPB, this garbage is my game, i always buy when they release a new version (stupid me, buy for every year)
and when i know GPB, i see Milestone MotoGP like a toys for my kid....so, i stop to buying this toys for my better life ;D
Garbage? Why its a game a very good game, its not sim, lol now there are the Piboso fanboys? ;D
This is the official GPB forum, so it's not so surprising that the members don't like MotoGP, not even as a mindless game.
It's like registering to a Debussy discussion forum and write that you like Zedd... Some backlash must be expected. ;D
Also, it's about darn time for GPB to have some fanboys!!! Every half-assed wannabe sim on the market has fanboys, why not GPB? :)
yeah because MotoGP Milestone have topic in here, its normal we compare with GPB........according my experience, i always get the bad service form them (Milestone)
Multiplayer mode its really bad quality......
In this my little vid is possible see the AI improvements over the past MS games. Still not perfect, but surely its a good job.
https://www.youtube.com/v/4Oc28ulspKk
Quote from: Blackheart on June 23, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
In this my little vid is possible see the AI improvements over the past MS games. Still not perfect, but surely its a good job.
https://www.youtube.com/v/4Oc28ulspKk
see Valentino Rossi legs before first cornerning, the rider down legs action style before cornering........PiBoSo, please add this style to the next GPB update ;)
i played it some races and i also think they improved some points of the game. The biggest thing is the sound tbh. But why dont they get how a quickshifter is working ::) on manual gear shifting the rider pulls the clutch in 1st person and also the throttle bar goes down.
~doN
Quote from: doNico on June 24, 2017, 03:27:47 PM
i played it some races and i also think they improved some points of the game. The biggest thing is the sound tbh. But why dont they get how a quickshifter is working ::) on manual gear shifting the rider pulls the clutch in 1st person and also the throttle bar goes down.
~doN
I think because Milestone use the same 1p view animations for all bikes (also 2 strokes) im not sure need check it.
Quote from: doNico on June 24, 2017, 03:27:47 PM
i played it some races and i also think they improved some points of the game. The biggest thing is the sound tbh. But why dont they get how a quickshifter is working ::) on manual gear shifting the rider pulls the clutch in 1st person and also the throttle bar goes down.
~doN
Like some other younger gen riders, Milestone probably think the clutch lever and throttle are just cosmetic in use? Hehe! ;D
Just a joke guys.... Keep your hair on. Lol.
But no, seriously Milestone probably just don't know how clutches and throttles were used when riders had to actually manually operate motorcycles. Lol! ;D ;D
Not surprising really in that it just goes to show their lack of commitment to realism except in the visual department..... They know their customers well...... Total waste of money in my opinion. :P ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: doNico on June 24, 2017, 03:27:47 PMalso the throttle bar goes down.
~doN
Ops I forgot I have this mod installed: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/seamless-gearbox-camera-mod.15947/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/seamless-gearbox-camera-mod.15947/)
Well, this game maybe is not good... unless you start career mode on Hard.
https://youtube.com/v/eD05x0Saa0w
Nice Gzehoo :) i bet you enjoyed that 8)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4359/37251314325_e5075910f6_o.jpg)
Darrell beattie ? lovely Davide very nice picture.
Quote from: PeterV on September 16, 2017, 09:09:51 AM
Darrell beattie ? lovely Davide very nice picture.
yes ;)
MotoGP 17 - Worth buying on the steam sale or not?
While Online racing is pretty much fecked in B12 should I splash some cash or what? :o
With no doubt its the best MotoGP game up to this time. Despite it still has some minimal bugs it is fun, fast and good looking. Not need to think much while racing... just to hold proper line and know braking points.
Thanks :) I enjoyed 2013 but the bugs killed it. The big worry is that arcade games usually bore me in 5 minutes nowadays. I blame Piboso hehe
Yes thats very true. It depends on what you expect from the game. I for example hate wide FOV in MotoGP 17 that IMO kills the onboard close racing, also the difference between onboard and tail camera is so big that in online racing there is no change to keep up with the guys at the same level. And also I really hate that arcade style. Still I buy all motorcycle games because I love motorcycles and like to have some fun playing them. To this day most of the time I have spend with Ride 2 - around 500 hours... I got bored with MotoGP 17 very fast and even if I didn't I found GP Bikes and I have here all I need.
Hehe maybe I just wait for Beta 13 then and load up SbK2001 while waiting.
Come on Pib. ;)