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Title: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on August 30, 2017, 05:24:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/4Lp7RA2zFQg

I can't remember these bikes, but I presume these 2 strokes(250's?) used to be default stock bikes in alpha 8? Where are they now? Also where has the throttle blipping-gone on the Varese 500 that we hear with the bikes in the video? And on a side note, why has the Varese got a semi-auto gearbox?

Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: BozoCRO on August 31, 2017, 09:25:10 AM
My guess is Aprilia's legal team wasn't very impressed :D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: tchemi on August 31, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/CRM4sA8.gif)
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: BOBR6 84 on August 31, 2017, 02:11:28 PM
Blipping is a choice isnt it? Semi auto gearbox?? Eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: matty0l215 on August 31, 2017, 03:57:09 PM
Tut tut Hawk. Using driver aids with 2 stroke from the 90's!!!

Tut tut...
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on August 31, 2017, 03:57:09 PM
Tut tut Hawk. Using driver aids with 2 stroke from the 90's!!!

Tut tut...

Huh? Lol

Oh! Your talking about the "Auto-Throttle Blipping" I presume? Well not really an aid like TC or the electronic aids on the modern bikes in GPB; more of a controller aid for those that cannot realistically and practically manually throttle-blip due to the controller type(being used by the user) inadequacies.  If we all had HS2's then it wouldn't be a problem at all. :P ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Vini on August 31, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
lol this again
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: vini97 on August 31, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
lol this again

Yep! Of course this again because it was overlooked for a fix in beta 12, so I'll keep banging on about it from time to time too until it's fixed or at very least confirmed for the TODO list. It's a two minute job to fix these issues, for christ sake. :P  :)


Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: vini97 on August 31, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
lol this again

Yep! Of course this again because it was overlooked for a fix in beta 12, so I'll keep banging on about it from time to time too until it's fixed or at very least confirmed for the TODO list. It's a two minute job to fix these issues, for christ sake. :P  :)
Right. The time it takes to unplug the joystick and plug the joypad  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: vini97 on August 31, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
lol this again

Yep! Of course this again because it was overlooked for a fix in beta 12, so I'll keep banging on about it from time to time too until it's fixed or at very least confirmed for the TODO list. It's a two minute job to fix these issues, for christ sake. :P  :)
Right. The time it takes to unplug the joystick and plug the joypad  ;D  ;D  ;D

Smart-arse! There's always one! Lol! :P ;D

Besides your missing the point.... The Varese has a semi-auto gearbox installed too, that is an error.  :P
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Smart-arse! There's always one! Lol! :P ;D

Besides your missing the point.... The Varese has a semi-auto gearbox installed too, that is an error.  :P
Oh right, I forgot the point was "give the varese a truly manual gearbox, so I can have more pleasure in using shift help" :)
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Smart-arse! There's always one! Lol! :P ;D

Besides your missing the point.... The Varese has a semi-auto gearbox installed too, that is an error.  :P
Oh right, I forgot the point was "give the varese a truly manual gearbox, so I can have more pleasure in using shift help" :)

No... seeing as your a full manual control gamepad fanatic, you can use fully manual throttle-blip instead(that I would like to see. Lol. I doubt whether many, if any, actually bother to throttle-blip manually at all with a gamepad controller?).  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Smart-arse! There's always one! Lol! :P ;D

Besides your missing the point.... The Varese has a semi-auto gearbox installed too, that is an error.  :P
Oh right, I forgot the point was "give the varese a truly manual gearbox, so I can have more pleasure in using shift help" :)

No... seeing as your a full manual control gamepad fanatic, you can use fully manual throttle-blip instead(that I would like to see. Lol. I doubt whether many, if any, actually bother to throttle-blip manually at all with a gamepad controller?).  :P  ;D
Let's do this then: gearbox sim is improved to disallow shifting up without lifting the throttle (unless bike with shifter) and shifting down without using the clutch (unless seamless gearbox bike). But shift help is taken away.

Deal for me. You in ?
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on September 01, 2017, 01:30:22 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 31, 2017, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 31, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Smart-arse! There's always one! Lol! :P ;D

Besides your missing the point.... The Varese has a semi-auto gearbox installed too, that is an error.  :P
Oh right, I forgot the point was "give the varese a truly manual gearbox, so I can have more pleasure in using shift help" :)

No... seeing as your a full manual control gamepad fanatic, you can use fully manual throttle-blip instead(that I would like to see. Lol. I doubt whether many, if any, actually bother to throttle-blip manually at all with a gamepad controller?).  :P  ;D
Let's do this then: gearbox sim is improved to disallow shifting up without lifting the throttle (unless bike with shifter) and shifting down without using the clutch (unless seamless gearbox bike). But shift help is taken away.

Deal for me. You in ?

Totally agree that's what we need except we keep shift help as an option for those using a controller that doesn't practically allow them to manually control the clutch and throttle actions needed to manually change gears.... been through this before Max. Lol.
Riders who can use a fully manual clutch and throttle will still have a huge advantage over the optional "Shift Help" setting users; the very same advantage we have by manually changing gears rather than using the "Auto-gears" option, so what's your problem with "Shift Help"? I don't get it Max?  :)

Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: BOBR6 84 on September 01, 2017, 08:22:23 PM
i use manual everything no shift help  ;D if anything i was blipping too much before lol on some bikes it sounds terrible when you blip  ;D ;D and clutch is set to right thumbstick forwards, throttle is right trigger.. everything works fine and in easy reach..

i don't shift the rider though that's auto! just leaning the rider forward and back is manual
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on September 01, 2017, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on September 01, 2017, 08:22:23 PM
i use manual everything no shift help  ;D if anything i was blipping too much before lol on some bikes it sounds terrible when you blip  ;D ;D and clutch is set to right thumbstick forwards, throttle is right trigger.. everything works fine and in easy reach..

i don't shift the rider though that's auto! just leaning the rider forward and back is manual

When I had a go at fully manual rider control it made such a difference to the way the bike handles going into, through the apex, and exiting the corners depending on whether you positioned the rider back in the seat or forward or in-between through the corner... amazing really!  ;D

I'm definitely wanting to go fully manual on everything but not until I get a controller(HS2) so I can do it properly like in reality.  ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: doubledragoncc on September 01, 2017, 10:02:58 PM
Dans EdTracker mounted on the shoulder for body movement is a dream come true

Just gotta work out how to use 2 at same time for head tracking too

DD
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: Hawk on September 02, 2017, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on September 01, 2017, 10:02:58 PM
Dans EdTracker mounted on the shoulder for body movement is a dream come true

Just gotta work out how to use 2 at same time for head tracking too

DD

Hmmm.... Sounds very interesting DD. I've got Track IR pro; I wonder if I could tie in the rider movement the same way? I feel a test coming up! ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the flowers gone???
Post by: doubledragoncc on September 02, 2017, 10:22:45 AM
Sounds good Hawk

I think the best would be your system for head movement and EdTracker PRO wireless for body movement

DD