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Title: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 14, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
I have found something like this in the internet
http://www.drivingitalia.net/index.php?/forums/topic/76652-bike-sim-experience-nuovo-progetto-italiano-su-2-ruote/
Does anyone know anything more avout this project?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Daniel_F on September 14, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
competition is always good to improve
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: tchemi on September 15, 2017, 09:33:29 AM
You may not have been here for a long time... Competition leads some guys to very bad behaviours. When they think they have to win, they have to be said better than than the others, when then need their ego to be licked and have to barg about what they have achieved, it can leads to childish wars :/

Hoppefully, M. Pib's seems to be a wise guy.

This news can be scarry for the comunity. Maybe it will kill GPB, maybe it will make it even stronger. But hey ! We don't even know. Maybe it is PiBoSo than provide the physics and the core ^^
(I assume he is Italian)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 15, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
From what is written there it seems that the game is made by Italian Mod team. I really would like to play a game that is as realistic as GP Bikes, has graphics made as good as in IoM TT with the official tracks and sounds from MotoGP 17.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Boerenlater on September 15, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
From what is written there it seems that the game is made by Italian Mod team. I really would like to play a game that is as realistic as GP Bikes, has graphics made as good as in IoM TT with the official tracks and sounds from MotoGP 17.
Will never happen.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: davidboda46 on September 15, 2017, 12:16:56 PM
Most people here in the community are cool, and the modders do a fantastic job of providing content to GPB. GPbikes Italia did do some good stuff but decided to do their own thing. That is their choice. Lot's of people here that are still dedicated to GPB and creating bikes and tracks for us all. 

If the GPbikes Italy will create a good game then I will play that as well, it does not mean that I will stop playing GPB. But considering how hard it is to create a good sim-game from scratch, especially when you don't have "studio funding", I don't think that we will see a finished product some time. Meanwhile GPB is moving (all be it slowly) in the right direction. So if you ask me, there isn't a problem with another bike-sim game in production. I play Milestone's games (very rarely though, mostly when I want some other bikes on track that I can push aside :)  ), MXB, KPR, Corsa, Project Cars, Dirt, F1 and so on.     

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 15, 2017, 01:55:42 PM
Same as me. The good thing is that if you play GP-Bikes and move to Milestone games, then they feel like piece of cake. Because for me GPBikes is more difficult it gives me more fun to learn it. Anyway as David said, I will welcome another motorcycle game with arms wide open.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on September 15, 2017, 02:00:49 PM
Competition is good for growth. Helps to let thing not stagnate.

We wouldnt be were we are today if it wasnt for people always trying to one up eachother.

Just so long as it doesnt boil down in to a childish argument... ;)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: GP500 on September 15, 2017, 05:16:41 PM
Wait until they show more instead of external renders (with porcelain tires). I think of this with gRally at the moment.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Italian Mod Team on September 15, 2017, 08:45:35 PM
From what is written there it seems that the game is made by Italian Mod team. I really would like to play a game that is as realistic as GP Bikes, has graphics made as good as in IoM TT with the official tracks and sounds from MotoGP 17.

We do not know nothing about this project, we are working on bikes for GPB  ;)

GP Bikes Italia and Italian Mod team are two different team.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 15, 2017, 10:17:09 PM


We do not know nothing about this project, we are working on bikes for GPB  ;)

GP Bikes Italia and Italian Mod team are two different team.


Ahhhh! good to know :-) my mistake bcs I thought it's you working on that game.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on October 15, 2017, 11:03:53 AM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/pb.165226176977911.-2207520000.1508065409./861001417400380/?type=3&theater

 :o
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on October 15, 2017, 01:33:06 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/pb.165226176977911.-2207520000.1508065409./861001417400380/?type=3&theater

 :o

Looks dope , actually
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on October 15, 2017, 03:05:46 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/pb.165226176977911.-2207520000.1508065409./861001417400380/?type=3&theater

 :o

Looks dope , actually

"dope"?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on October 15, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
Quote
Dope
adjective, slang

Of the very best kind.
"dude, there are some really dope rhymes on that rapper's latest album"

Yes, t'is very Dope  ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on October 15, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
Quote
Dope
adjective, slang

Of the very best kind.
"dude, there are some really dope rhymes on that rapper's latest album"

Yes, t'is very Dope  ;D

I must be getting too old for all this. Lol! ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on October 15, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
or maybe I'm too bad in english ^^
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: JamoZ on October 15, 2017, 07:13:26 PM
Looks cool. The prophecy most of the people on this forum have been predicting for the past 5 years or so is becoming real....

The competition is waking up....
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on October 15, 2017, 07:26:34 PM
SBK, STK and SSP mods were very good.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Vergio101 on October 15, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
Looks cool. The prophecy most of the people on this forum have been predicting for the past 5 years or so is becoming real....
The competition is waking up....
+1
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on October 15, 2017, 08:02:01 PM
Looks cool. The prophecy most of the people on this forum have been predicting for the past 5 years or so is becoming real....

The competition is waking up....

This looks like healthy competition, though, from what seems to be another "garage team".
What would insta-annihilate GPB's community would be something like pBikes, or motorycles support added in rF2.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Vivo Felice on October 16, 2017, 08:47:36 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/f6B2MR/Whats_App_Image_2017_10_16_at_10_12_09.jpg) (https://ibb.co/exjNMR)


bye bye
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Boerenlater on October 16, 2017, 09:17:23 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/f6B2MR/Whats_App_Image_2017_10_16_at_10_12_09.jpg) (https://ibb.co/exjNMR)


bye bye
:-\
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on October 16, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/f6B2MR/Whats_App_Image_2017_10_16_at_10_12_09.jpg) (https://ibb.co/exjNMR)


bye bye
:)
"Garage team" wasn't meant in a derogatory way. PiBoSo is a garage team, too  ;)
Maybe you'd prefer "indie", but lately this adjective has been overused and attached even to big ass companies with dozens of employees.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Manu on October 16, 2017, 09:57:13 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/f6B2MR/Whats_App_Image_2017_10_16_at_10_12_09.jpg) (https://ibb.co/exjNMR)


bye bye
:o
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on October 16, 2017, 11:04:32 AM
First post on the forum. Never mind :P
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on October 16, 2017, 11:36:26 AM
After all that Milestone garbage I am hungry of all new titles that will have more realism. For me Milestone games are fun but lack of customisation , immerse racing I get bored very fast. All I need I have in GP Bikes. After few weeks of training I am able not to fall and do decent laptimes. Everything depends on how complete Bike Sim Experience will be and how customisable will it be.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on October 16, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
If they basically do an rFactor2 version of a bike racing sim, fully moddable with great modding tools/exporters and it's bug free with rock-solid multiplayer networking for a min of 26 riders + the ability to live-replay with tools specially designed for live-streaming promotion and production streams(as part of the live-replay tools) then they'll have cracked it.

The race is on guys! Who can get to the finish line first with a rock solid piece of kit! This will be interesting! ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on October 16, 2017, 03:18:58 PM
Go PiBoSo , we trust in you , competition isn't a way to get more motivate ?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on October 16, 2017, 06:39:44 PM
If they basically do an rFactor2 version of a bike racing sim, fully moddable with great modding tools/exporters and it's bug free with rock-solid multiplayer networking for a min of 26 riders + the ability to live-replay with tools specially designed for live-streaming promotion and production streams(as part of the live-replay tools) then they'll have cracked it.
That's what I call a big "if" :)

But yeah, the more the merrier, so let's see !
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 16, 2017, 08:19:32 PM
With such an attitude I would not touch such a GAME as that with Hawky.s doodaa

@Hawk................. Your one of the most respected guys here so had to use you to push the point

Rock on GPBikes......................

If you cant handle it go play a game

DD
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Napalm Nick on October 16, 2017, 08:40:11 PM
Surely not one of the Bike Sim Exp Team?? No I don't want to believe that. That would be terrible and already risking their reputation. Un objetivo propio! No I think not one of them ::) :P
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Mace-x on October 16, 2017, 09:38:11 PM
(https://scontent.fscl14-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22339694_861001417400380_1904063455741887054_o.jpg?oh=779bff8e67b23869e8d65b608a00fa5d&oe=5A3C3673)

I like that there are more games but i think the scale on this is way off, bike looks like a pocket bike, cant wait to see a gameplay tho!
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Napalm Nick on October 16, 2017, 09:43:21 PM
Hehe yes it is a pocketbike. They make it first. Crazy Italians  ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on October 16, 2017, 09:48:10 PM
 :-\Its Ohvale GP-0 bike. A more or less like a MiniGP bike.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on October 16, 2017, 11:22:23 PM
Looking at that picture above, I'd almost swear that they have used a worn-slick tyre texture as a base for the track asphalt... Can you see it?  ;D

Looks pretty good though! Hehe! ;D

With such an attitude I would not touch such a GAME as that with Hawky.s doodaa

@Hawk................. Your one of the most respected guys here so had to use you to push the point

Rock on GPBikes......................

If you cant handle it go play a game

DD

Lol..... I take it you are not a fan of rFactor2 DD? ;D

Personally I cannot think of another car racing sim that does a better job of simulating the physics of a racing car and gives you so much value for the money you payed for it..... and please no-one even mention iracing, that's a bit of a piss-take in my personal opinion with all the subscriptions and DL content you need to buy to really enjoy it fully, at least rFactor2 is a one off-lifetime payment(optional) and off you go, plus it's fully moddable too.  :)

But Piboso's bike physics are the best I've seen and experienced to date, but this new competition is certainly a good thing because one or the other will come out on top..... It will be interesting to see which one will survive because I get the impression they are both after the same market? Good healthy competition that quite frankly I think Piboso needs!  ;)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Manu on October 17, 2017, 05:07:35 AM
The competition is positive for the users. No competition no progress.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Mace-x on October 17, 2017, 12:56:06 PM
ooooh i feel like a retard now, i dodnt have a clue about that bike  ;D
then im sorry devs!
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 17, 2017, 04:59:52 PM
So who's actually making this? the guys from GPBikesItalia?? im happy to see it!! Il play that for sure!! along with GPBikes, Ride2 etc etc

It really doesn't need to turn into a war  ::) :-*
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Boerenlater on October 18, 2017, 09:26:47 AM
So who's actually making this? the guys from GPBikesItalia?? im happy to see it!! Il play that for sure!! along with GPBikes, Ride2 etc etc

It really doesn't need to turn into a war  ::) :-*
No, it's another team. Not the GP Bikes guys. See the first page.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on October 18, 2017, 09:34:24 AM
So who's actually making this? the guys from GPBikesItalia?? im happy to see it!! Il play that for sure!! along with GPBikes, Ride2 etc etc

It really doesn't need to turn into a war  ::) :-*
No, it's another team. Not the GP Bikes guys. See the first page.

Uh ?! It is the GPBikesItalia team (at least I've spotted a few known names ...).
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Boerenlater on October 18, 2017, 09:45:21 AM
Now you're confusing me :P
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: poumpouny on October 18, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
It's from GPbikes Italia Team, nothing to do with Italian mod Team, the said that at the first page !
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on October 18, 2017, 04:22:25 PM
It's from GPbikes Italia Team, nothing to do with Italian mod Team, the said that at the first page !

Maybe you're right , but , Max spotted some names as he said , coincidence ?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on October 18, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
GPB Italia =/= Italia Mod Team

They are two completly seperate teams. GPB Italia sadley left the comunity back just before beta 10 (I think, March 2016). From what I am aware (Please correct me if im wrong), they started the project a few months after this.

Italia Mod team started in 2017.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Alby46 on October 18, 2017, 05:52:04 PM
They are two completly seperate teams. GPB Italia sadley left the comunity back just before beta 10 (I think, March 2016). From what I am aware (Please correct me if im wrong), they started the project a few months after this.
Correct
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on October 19, 2017, 04:00:25 PM
Anyway , it's really good to see they're trying to do a sim bike racing , hope them a lot of success
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on January 31, 2018, 12:31:36 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/a.165307423636453.1073741828.165226176977911/920251571475364/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on January 31, 2018, 12:55:32 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/a.165307423636453.1073741828.165226176977911/920251571475364/?type=3&theater
Interesting.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on January 31, 2018, 02:32:51 PM
Piboso, do you work on this game too? 🤔
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on January 31, 2018, 02:57:19 PM
Piboso, do you work on this game too? 🤔

No.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on January 31, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Piboso, do you work on this game too? 🤔

No.

Visuals look good,  can't be PiBoSo's stuff hence ;D

[I know, I know, that's a low blow ... just poking fun at you]
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on January 31, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: TimboC137 on January 31, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.

doesn't surprise me. he's gotta be like most people here, a huge motorcycle fan, and a huge sim fan. it will be interesting to see how a new sim would approach development. i know it will directly compete with GPB, but competition might do some good.

PS Piboso does seem very private, but i bet we all know him and race with him regularly under a different nickname. hmmm.... i wonder who it could be. it would be hilarious if Piboso was actually Klippie  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on January 31, 2018, 04:31:58 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.
PS Piboso does seem very private, but i bet we all know him and race with him regularly under a different nickname.
I think you've just lost one bet.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on January 31, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Klippie? :-D
LOL
The truth is that we dont know when Bike SIM Experience will come out. I asked them on Facebook and its not even 100% sure if it will be this yr
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: TimboC137 on January 31, 2018, 04:42:58 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.
PS Piboso does seem very private, but i bet we all know him and race with him regularly under a different nickname.
I think you've just lost one bet.

ok, if you say so........ PIBOSO! you just gave yourself away. i always wondered how those plugins worked so seamlessly with GPB  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: TimboC137 on January 31, 2018, 04:45:50 PM
Klippie? :-D
LOL
The truth is that we dont know when Bike SIM Experience will come out. I asked them on Facebook and its not even 100% sure if it will be this yr

well that seems a long way off. and you know when they come up with a release date, they will delay it 6 months to a year after that   :-\
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: h106frp on January 31, 2018, 06:07:09 PM
Fix the issues with track transparencies
Finish the HDR lighting
Go to 64 bit to allow acccess to more memory

.....and GPB would look pretty good even with the current engine.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on January 31, 2018, 06:27:10 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.

doesn't surprise me. he's gotta be like most people here, a huge motorcycle fan, and a huge sim fan. it will be interesting to see how a new sim would approach development. i know it will directly compete with GPB, but competition might do some good.

PS Piboso does seem very private, but i bet we all know him and race with him regularly under a different nickname. hmmm.... i wonder who it could be. it would be hilarious if Piboso was actually Klippie  :o ;D ;D

The fact that PiBoSo is aware of this game is because the team that create it is the past Italian team who was there back in time
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on January 31, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
I was just asking because I was surprised that you have mentioned about this game by your own.
PS Piboso does seem very private, but i bet we all know him and race with him regularly under a different nickname.
I think you've just lost one bet.

ok, if you say so........ PIBOSO! you just gave yourself away. i always wondered how those plugins worked so seamlessly with GPB  ;D ;D
I'm flattened by the comparison but I think the same doesn't hold for PiBoSo himself :)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Stout Johnson on January 31, 2018, 09:24:46 PM
Fix the issues with track transparencies
Finish the HDR lighting
Go to 64 bit to allow acccess to more memory

.....and GPB would look pretty good even with the current engine.
agreed...
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on May 08, 2018, 08:58:43 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/pb.165226176977911.-2207520000.1525811392./979741802193007/?type=3&theater

The new logo doesn't look very original (http://www.worldracingseries.net/)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Wimp #97 on May 08, 2018, 09:07:21 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/photos/pb.165226176977911.-2207520000.1525811392./979741802193007/?type=3&theater

The new logo doesn't look very original (http://www.worldracingseries.net/)

Wow indeed. exact same font and colours...
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on May 09, 2018, 12:16:22 PM
eh... amyway their game seem to be far away from release...
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: PiBoSo on July 03, 2018, 09:26:29 PM

https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/videos/vb.165226176977911/1020342971466223/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: janaucarre on July 04, 2018, 08:32:27 AM
Hummm...
Some comments are a bit aggressiv to pibosos forumers
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on July 04, 2018, 10:07:06 AM
I didn't see any hmm. maybe those in Italian?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: uberslug on July 04, 2018, 10:08:23 AM
Does anyone else think the bike / rider combination looks a little small in comparison to the track?

I wonder how it looks in first person.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: connorhall70 on July 04, 2018, 02:38:50 PM
Does anyone else think the bike / rider combination looks a little small in comparison to the track?

I wonder how it looks in first person.
no, not at all. the game looks 100 times better than gpbikes and its due just over a year from now...
dunno what else to say really, feel sorry for piboso with this competition... but then again, theyre only making one game and piboso making four at the same time... so what do people expect?


ill never stop playing gpbikes, i think both sims will have things they do better, but theyve already showcased multiple tracks and bikes... so they're already ahead in those areas... :(
theres just too many big issues with gpbikes right now that just need to be fixed badly, the downhill cameras... tire deformation... the rear suspension bug... jumpstarts are still bugged... the list goes on...
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Gzehoo on July 04, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Well, there is a difference when one person makes 4 games and when 4 people make one game.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: speedfr on July 04, 2018, 03:27:30 PM
Nices images but... need a demo to talk seriously about it, it won't be the first time that it's beautiful...until the release. Wait and See.

And in the video, the speed effect is weird and yes, the size looks reduced, its nice Laguna Seca lap but...
(doesn't feel on the video at least the bike on the ground, and i'm not Facebook user so i can't access the comments but anyway, i don't care. The only opinion that counts relativ to this kind of things is... mine  ;D)

Let's see Q3 2019. So more than a year.

Yes GP Bikes is not finished, perfect and can improve.
But it works fine enough to have fun. Really. Depend of the player i guess.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Blackheart on July 04, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
I didn't see any hmm. maybe those in Italian?

Nope, all nice comments from italians.

Imho for a pre-alpha looks very good.


EDIT: This post is not very nice  ;D
 
Quote
Let me be blunt: Piboso, along with the most prominent members on his forum, don't want to succeed. They want to fail. Some of the forum members especially, are losers. They hate change, and they hate to see progress. They're happy being stuck in the past, wasting their lives away on stupid things and are complacent in their failure. They hate innovation, and especially, they hate those who innovate. There's a reason most of the best modders have left.

The development of BSE, and the frequent updates by the devs, indicates so far, that the BSE devs are doing a good job. By God's grace, I hope they far surpass expectations and turn "Bike Sim Experience - Realistic Motorbike Simulator" into a household
name
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on July 04, 2018, 04:03:11 PM
Really nice looking video, though I'd question the realism of the rear tyre slide under power, just looks a little too easy and manufactured than real physics based, but I could be wrong? It's not easy to judge just how good it is from a short video so let's wait and see from a real demo first, but certainly looks good so far!  :)

I like the way they have animated the rider to adjust his style according to how far he's leaning over into a corner, ie: lifting his knee correctly etc, but the leg-out into corners still needs a bit of work for it to look right in my opinion though I personally think the leg-out style is purely a fashion fad started by a genuinely panicked Rossi many years ago..... Strange how weird actions catch on. Lol! ;D

From what I've read I also have the impression that modding won't be allowed? I feel that they are probably thinking of releasing it with some basic tracks and bikes in certain categories and then to keep the money flowing in they'll release payware add-ons in the hope that it will pay for further developments/costs and licensing? Not sure that is the way to go.... I'd much prefer them to allow modding but on a controlled basis together with "Officially Manufacturers Licensed content", in that people can also submit a mod for inclusion but will only be accepted if good enough quality and licensed(no ripped content), a little like E.D. for DCS World does.
But what worries me about no modding allowed is the fact that it very much limits it's possible future longevity as the developer won't get enough money in from pure sales to keep continued development of the sim and very few people/companies would be willing to continue development when sales drop below a certain level unlike Piboso who it appears has continued development of GPBikes out of pure passion for the sim rather than pure monetary gains.... So let's see what happens with this, as it's business model could well make or break it 6 months into it's release no matter how good it looks or plays.  :-\

Any news on network plans/development? Whether it's going to be basic network connection only or geared more towards esport event promotion?

Good luck with this BSE.... I hope it turns out a great sim; and you definitely need a demo release(if only showing early alpha release quality) as soon as possible so people can judge just how good it's going to be and it's potential.  ;)


@BH: Totally agree with you, it's not a nice thing to say, but it's just his opinion and nothing to worry about.  ;)

Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 04, 2018, 04:15:54 PM
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Bike Sim Experience - Realistic Motorbike Simulator
Mods are not planned for now sorry
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: uberslug on July 04, 2018, 06:01:54 PM
Given today's CG capabilities I will believe it is good when I see what looks to be an actual human controlling the bike / rider [there may be more videos on FacePlant but I do not partake].

Is there any mention of simulator hardware support?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: connorhall70 on July 04, 2018, 07:34:12 PM
Well, there is a difference when one person makes 4 games and when 4 people make one game.
piboso had a choice to make one game at a time or all at once. he knew the workload would be close to impossible... but you cannot defend it as if its a mistake. piboso must have knew taking 4 games on at once from scratch was gonna be hard. and hes going to be the one to blame when his games have barely any players left because the development rate is SO SLOW.


just take the time to think what the game would be like without any mods. victoria, with 4 bikes. thats all piboso has put in this game. the changes we've seen are minor. 32 bit for how many years? game crashing on multiplayer? thats a game breaking bug, and it STILL isnt fixed?

im sure people here would be happy to help him, but he accepts no help!

and dont try telling me im being harsh,,, just take a minute to think what the steam reviews would be for this game... with people not being able to play the game with their friends, having to go through th trouble of donig the LAA modification...

thankfully im one of the lucky ones who doesnt have the core exe problem. I wouldnt play the game as much as i do if i couldnt play multiplayer, and im sure many others wouldnt either.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Kaidicko on July 04, 2018, 09:08:56 PM
Haven't you seen it? Its got multiple bike AND multiple tracks too. So imagine what it will have on release in a year? Unless this game gets some serious attention in the next year, it will have far less going for it than Bike Sim will.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: uberslug on July 04, 2018, 10:20:49 PM
Nice images but anyone with a half way decent set of graphics abilities could produce those. Again, I will believe it is the end all be all of ConnorWorld when I can actually experience it [in 15+ months]. For now GP-Bikes beats the &$(% out of everything else so it is good enough for me.

I think a fair amount of FUD BS is being spread around to discredit / discourage people / developers from using / developing other products. Classic software marketing strategy: Promise the World, then make excuses when one doesn't deliver the goods.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Blackheart on July 04, 2018, 10:27:22 PM
What you say is correct and it is easy make cool vids or screenshot.. better wait a demo or a in-game vid.

P.S. Also GP Bikes looks better with some filters  ;D

(https://s33.postimg.cc/hq0nkss1n/World_SBK18.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/hq0nkss1n/)

Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Napalm Nick on July 04, 2018, 10:48:19 PM
Nice graphics, lots of bikes and tracks.  I need a bit more than that, there are plenty of those titles collecting dust on my shelf already.

as Blackheart says the 'second coming' can be announced after the demo

For the record, I'm not biased to anything as CH is suggesting. I'm very excited to see another Bike Sim coming, especially from these guys who we know do a great job.  8)

I doubt anyone is biased to GPBikes, why would they be? More bike games the merrier.


Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Tom HWK on July 04, 2018, 11:13:53 PM
From the video and pictures of the game it does not look anywhere near as sharp as gpbikes graphically, everything looks blurry and soft, the trick they pull on milestone games to hide how bad it actually looks.

Also why in the video does the bike slide all over the place?

GPBikes could look a ton better with filters, as blackheart said photoshopped pictures look amazing with just filters (http://hardwickgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/pic1.png).

What would you rather play? rFactor 2 or Forza 7.

Also this picture is quite old but all it has is a couple of filter layers on it. I don't want a game to look like some 13 year old girls instagram feed.
(http://hardwickgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DucatiGP.png)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Reactive on July 05, 2018, 03:19:21 AM
So the game engine is Unity3d? Oh hell... We are deceived, we can diverge. IMO that happened because its easier to find C# programmers, than C++. But visual will be very bad (as a 3D modeller\painter in mobile games company i know what im talking about).
And thats why mods are not allowed.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: poumpouny on July 05, 2018, 08:01:23 AM
Seriously guys, i'm a 3d graphic designer and the only thing that is different from gpbikes graphically is the DOF, very badly setup DOF, witch make more look a tilt shift picture, and that's why you have the feeling that the bike is a Small RC one.

In the physics side, idon't know but it seem there is no suspension on the bike and as you said it's sliding all the way.

IMO It's lightyear far from gpbike physics but ok it's a pre alpha release. and if you want that "gamey" DOF look just install Reshade on GPbikes.

Competition is good, but comparing GP bikes  to that thing is a bit exageratted in my opinion  ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on July 05, 2018, 08:14:54 AM
Piboso said that he he will be working on post processing, anyway as it was said. We will see how the physics will look like. Im and one of those people who think that physics and gameplay are more important than gfx.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 05, 2018, 08:17:13 AM
+1 for the excessive usage of DOF. Seems to be the trend today in many games: no (ultra-exaggerated) DOF, no party.
That aside, I don't think  anything can be judged at the moment.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on July 05, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
Anything can be made to look nice at a distance.

Like Blackheart said. Best wait for a demo or in game footage (vanity shot not included, real as the player sees it footage)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Mace-x on July 06, 2018, 07:29:09 AM
to be honest the game trailer looks ok physics wise, but graphics looks like shit, doesnt even have a proper anti aliasing.

do a excercise;

1-Open Unreal engine 4
2-import a track model
3-Assign a flat texture, without a proper material
3-Add Bloom to the max and Depth of field to the max

There you go, weve emulated that game and yes, it looks mushy and like shit, because doing post fx is hard and requires a lot of tweaking, knowledge and time  ;)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Blackheart on July 08, 2018, 08:03:50 PM
Returning to the thread, the engine is Unity3d?

I dont remember a racing game with this engine, but im not a assiduous player.  With Unity I only know some rpg.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on July 08, 2018, 08:17:38 PM
Returning to the thread, the engine is Unity3d?

I dont remember a racing game with this engine, but im not a assiduous player.  With Unity I only know some rpg.

In theory Unity can be used to become anything. A dev would just need to know what to do with the supplied tools.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on July 08, 2018, 08:24:42 PM
Yes; "Unity3D" is a game SDK similar(although less quality and not as professional) to "Unreal Engine 4" in my opinion and can be used to develop any game you wish... If you have all the skills to do it of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Blackheart on July 08, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
Yep, but what I mean is if a decent racing game has ever been created with this engine. U4 is used for almost every videogame genre.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on July 08, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
The only racing game I can find really are two NASCAR games (and let's be honest, that is just driving in circles :P)

So it is a bold choice to try and make something as complex as a motorcycle simulator with physics (Assuming they are simulation physics and not using animation/event response, like how i imagine the Milestone games are)

Could be an explanation as to why the bike looks so rigid in the video. Maybe they still need to do the simulation side of things?

It would be nice to have some more info on what/where they are going with the game.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: valern13 on July 17, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
https://www.facebook.com/BikeSimExperience/videos/1032958863537967/
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Vergio101 on July 18, 2018, 05:07:53 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Mace-x on July 18, 2018, 05:59:51 PM
To be honest, ive seen way better physics on Unity than in unreal, some chassis flex, wheels deformation, soft body, and ahuge amount of decent looking driving games, while ue4 relies on physx for its physics and it fucking sucks, tell me one good car physics game in ue4 (dont throw Assetto Corsa Competizione, those are their own physics engine written into ue4), just try to looks for a decent looking car tutorial on ue4 in youtube, none, all suck, while unity has a lot of great car physics tutorials so id rely in unity for physics... sadly...
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on July 18, 2018, 06:04:07 PM
still waiting for the demo/in game video :P
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on July 18, 2018, 07:00:45 PM
In this second video I like to liked more
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on July 18, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
To be honest, ive seen way better physics on Unity than in unreal, some chassis flex, wheels deformation, soft body, and ahuge amount of decent looking driving games, while ue4 relies on physx for its physics and it fucking sucks, tell me one good car physics game in ue4 (dont throw Assetto Corsa Competizione, those are their own physics engine written into ue4), just try to looks for a decent looking car tutorial on ue4 in youtube, none, all suck, while unity has a lot of great car physics tutorials so id rely in unity for physics... sadly...

You virtually contradicted yourself there Mace. ;D

You say UE4 physics sucks because they "rely" on "PhysX"(that's not true although you are free to use "PhysX" if you desire), then you went on to say devs can develop their own physics for UE4 games...... Well doesn't that really make a nonsense of your whole statement? :)

All good game SDK's allow the independent programming of physics if desired, and therefore the physics of any particular game/sim depends on how good the devs are in programming those physics into the game/sim..... Physics in Unity can be just as good in UE4 and vice versa; In reality it's all down to how good the particular dev's programming is.  ;)

To be honest I find both good, but when you have to pay though the nose for good unity plugins as well as a lot of money for the pro version of Unity 3D itself then it's a no brainer when UE4 is totally free to use professionally and personally, and then is only a 5% royalty once you hit a certain value of sales; I think it's currently $3,000 in unit sales before you have to pay the 5% royalty on each proceeding unit sale?
In fact I'd be surprised if Unity 3D is still around in 3 years time unless they can do the same sort of deal? But with all the payware-plugins needed to get the best out of Unity I doubt they could do it. I personally think Unity 3d's time is definitely numbered? ;)

Youtube Tutorials can be handy at times, but believe me, most are done by very amature people who want their 5 mins of fame and ad-revenue's and don't really know what they are talking about. Lol! Don't get me wrong, there are a very few who are good on Youtube, but most are diabolical and couldn't create a good tutorial if their lives depended on it..... Haven't you noticed that most of them sound like they just got out of their diapers and can hardly speak properly nevermind teach anyone anything! Lol! ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Mace-x on July 19, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Hahahaha, yeah Hawk, to be honest ive looked a lot on how to properly make a somewhat decent car in unreal engine 4, even on the store you cant get decent driving mechanics for it.

While in unity even a chipmunk can do it, is way easyer and the wheel collider works properly, while everything unreal have to offer is some wonky premade physics, that was my point, for a amateur is nearly impossible to get something decent physics wise un ue4
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Reactive on July 19, 2018, 06:04:26 AM
I dont remember a racing game with this engine.

CarX Drift racing and Furidashi Drift Cyber sport, for example.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: poumpouny on July 19, 2018, 06:13:55 AM
i don't think pro dev or studio will use a "preset physics" from UE or Unity to make car or bike game, those preset thing are most for "mobile oriented" or very arcade game. The point using UE or Unity now is the Graphic engine + Net code. I don't know about netcode but for graphic, UE is way more realistic and easy tha Unity, and it's free...there's also frostbite but it's another discussion. I think you can only have good physic with traditional C language devellopement.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 19, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
They picked Unity (deciding to pay for it), I'm not sure we're really entitled to say that's a bad decision. Let's just wait and see.

I think you can only have good physic with traditional C language devellopement.

You mean C++ right ? :)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: poumpouny on July 19, 2018, 08:46:33 AM
Max > no, C  ;D because we need hardcore sim, so dev need to work on hardcore language  ;D. Seriously, yes i mean C++
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on July 19, 2018, 09:26:45 AM

I think they probably chose Unity because the main programmer in their team was already a Unity proficient user and therefore probably made sense to go down that route?

But as far as good physics are concerned: The physics will only be as good as the programmer who programmes the physics..... I agree with  poumpouny that the preset physics are only basic physics settings for arcady type games and that if you want proper simulated physics for more complex given situations then you'd have to programme them yourself, and I doubt whether any programmer is going to make available very good physics routines for free, a tutorial, or as a cheap payware module. :)

Hahahaha, yeah Hawk, to be honest ive looked a lot on how to properly make a somewhat decent car in unreal engine 4, even on the store you cant get decent driving mechanics for it.

While in unity even a chipmunk can do it, is way easyer and the wheel collider works properly, while everything unreal have to offer is some wonky premade physics, that was my point, for a amateur is nearly impossible to get something decent physics wise un ue4

I like the old saying,  "If you want anything done properly then you've got to do it yourself".  This is very true in most cases. ;) ;D

I think, even if your an amature developer, to seek out pre-made solutions to a specific problem is a mistake..... I think developers(or would-be dev's) would learn a lot more and become a better developer by setting out to solve the problem themselves.

But basically I think it's a mistake to judge either UE4 or Unity on the availability of premade physics routines/examples, of which I know the ones you see for UE4 tend to be just starter examples for people to learn from and then go on to adapt or even create their own, so it's unfair to judge UE4 against Unity on that basis don't you think? It's more a case of the end result that matters, and that surely depends greatly on the ability of the dev team working in whichever SDK they decide to work with, in my opinion. :)


Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 19, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Max > no, C  ;D because we need hardcore sim, so dev need to work on hardcore language  ;D. Seriously, yes i mean C++
C is hardcore only as far as you don't try really creepy stuff like VB or Java :)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Alby46 on August 12, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38997002_1063807347119785_7393681729279492096_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b27c775949193855b34531517466223a&oe=5BFB5669)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on August 13, 2018, 07:45:45 AM
It looks great , thanks for the teasing Alby , hope the physics will be good !
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on September 04, 2018, 06:12:03 PM
(https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40639960_1083789418454911_7803321351896301568_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=903ae04d894bb853614c9246ea158d40&oe=5BF081D0)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 05, 2018, 02:44:25 PM
Graphics is one... post release support,  features and physics is second. As far as I remember the planned release date is the end of next year... they have a lot of time to work... Time will show.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on September 05, 2018, 03:13:18 PM
Graphics is one... post release support,  features and physics is second. As far as I remember the planned release date is the end of next year... they have a lot of time to work... Time will show.

lol
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 05, 2018, 03:24:03 PM
hmmm .... did I say wrong about the release date?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on September 05, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
hmmm .... did I say wrong about the release date?

No, I did not know it and I was surprised how far away it is.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Alby46 on September 07, 2018, 01:14:34 PM
Well, they started working on it some months ago, let's just wait  :)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Alby46 on September 12, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
(https://scontent.fqpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41598568_1090616291105557_6737513427708674048_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=971786557057c22677efadf8eb01c57c&oe=5C202D96)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: h106frp on September 12, 2018, 07:04:02 PM
Nice - Does the use of recognised logos mean they have sponsors now?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 12, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
Sponsors...hmmm...I don't know but they have mentioned something about crowdfunding campaign
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: janaucarre on September 12, 2018, 08:24:55 PM
That looks a bit as cadwell park
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: KG_03 on September 13, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
It is Cadwell Park
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: matty0l215 on September 13, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
For an Italian team they seem to like the British tracks  ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Davide74 on September 13, 2018, 01:17:36 PM
It's Luca Scassa in cadwell when he was running with CBR Padgetts in the bsb

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnoNZn5lMbI/?taken-by=skaluca
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: guigui404 on September 13, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
I think I didn't get it , this men is a BSB rider and he had tested BSE ?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Alby46 on October 05, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s)
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Reactive on October 05, 2018, 08:01:35 PM
Ok, i `d like to repeat: GPB must be based on Unreal engine.
As half-secured, for example. Core code w physic and licence cheking and so on is locked, but assets w bikes and tracks are open for editing -- everybody happy. No?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: JohnnoNinja on October 06, 2018, 12:32:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s)

It's looking really good! Hopefully it rides good as well. Might be the sim everybody is waiting for;) Does anyone knows if racing against AI is implement in BSE?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: HornetMaX on October 06, 2018, 01:50:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryzRdSCads&t=3s)

Promising.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: uberslug on October 06, 2018, 11:39:22 PM
While waiting for the physics to be fixed in Beta 15, Assetto Corsa, iRacing, or Project Cars 2?
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Harrytmj66 on October 18, 2018, 05:24:09 PM
While waiting for the physics to be fixed in Beta 15, Assetto Corsa, iRacing, or Project Cars 2?

I'm on iRacing. can be very frustrating with how unforgiving the damage physics can be but really good fun at the same time.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: Hawk on October 19, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
While waiting for the physics to be fixed in Beta 15, Assetto Corsa, iRacing, or Project Cars 2?

rFactor 2.... No other choice.  :P ;D

Can understand you suggesting iRacing as an alternative but the other two are just for game-boys. Lol.  :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: uberslug on October 19, 2018, 07:51:53 PM
Will take a look at them both.
Title: Re: Bike SIM Experience - new motorcycle game?
Post by: -aGy- on November 15, 2018, 05:22:03 AM
yeees this is what we need jiiihaaa