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Title: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 21, 2018, 02:56:14 PM
(https://s25.postimg.org/5pjiaru7j/moto2.png)

Moto2 Championship is going to use Moto2 2017 v1.4b bikeset by Manu (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5549.0) and some real-life circuits.


[RULES]

-NO CHAT DURING QUALIFS AND RACE
-DON'T SHORTCUT
-POLLS DISABLED
-MAX 1 RESTART
-RESPECT BLUE FLAG
-BE FAIR

-RIDER IS CLASSIFIED AFTER FINISHING AT LEAST 80% RACE DISTANCE


[RACE DAY INFO]

Race day: Sunday
Practice: 60 minutes
Qualifs: 20 minutes
Warm-Up: 5 minutes
Race: 80km (laps in the calendar)
Limited tyre sets: ON (only during the round)
Weather: TBA
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Wimp #97 on January 21, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
Yes please
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Manu on January 22, 2018, 10:40:04 PM
looking forward for this
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 23, 2018, 07:33:26 AM
Poll added for the topic.

It's about the race weekend - is it better to have one longer race (80km) or two short races (50km)?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: KG_03 on January 23, 2018, 07:51:20 AM
For me one race. I am to make it as close to reality as possible. We also could make a free practice b4 the race.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: finpower on January 23, 2018, 03:35:27 PM
I like that more races are driven again.
but what I like less is the selection of the race tracks.
I miss the classic tracks that you know, that they work online.

for example brno, assen, misano, monza, mugello, silverstone, spa, just to name a few.
I do not want to criticize now, that's just my opinion. 8)

greeting fin
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: connorhall70 on January 23, 2018, 04:27:27 PM
plz
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Olaf Lehmann on January 24, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
QuoteI like that more races are driven again.
but what I like less is the selection of the race tracks.
I miss the classic tracks that you know, that they work online.

for example brno, assen, misano, monza, mugello, silverstone, spa, just to name a few.
I do not want to criticize now, that's just my opinion.

greeting fin

+1

BR Olaf
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 25, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
Track list updated.

Also, about poll results - there will be only one race at 80km distance for every weekend.

Signing up is open.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: adrmelandri on January 26, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
Hello all, Wanna ask, what GPB version will be used ? Beta 12 or Beta 13 ?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 26, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
GP Bikes Beta 13 and Moto2 2017 Mod ;)
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: adrmelandri on January 26, 2018, 03:20:16 PM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 26, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
GP Bikes Beta 13 and Moto2 2017 Mod ;)
And the current mod is suitable for the Beta 13 ? Or should i change anything or download anything ? Because i haven't tried the Beta13
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 26, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
Every mod should be suitable for Beta 13.

Also, Manu made a little update for Moto2 2017.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: matty0l215 on January 28, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
Are we using NDS tracks or are we trying Dynamic tracks??
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
Another update for the calendar (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5627.0).

Track list is completely changed (except Bugatti).


@matty0l215, I was going to use NDS tracks, but the first race will be on Dynamic track (Victoria).
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: matty0l215 on January 29, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
@matty0l215, I was going to use NDS tracks, but the first race will be on Dynamic track (Victoria).


Good to hear. NDS will be more stable but give Victoria a test and see if it works :)
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: adrmelandri on January 30, 2018, 07:33:29 AM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
Another update for the calendar (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5627.0).

Track list is completely changed (except Bugatti).


@matty0l215, I was going to use NDS tracks, but the first race will be on Dynamic track (Victoria).
Hello Gzehoo are you going to provide the link for the circuits or we download individually in the Track Database ? because i'm confused on which circuits to use, considering there are many types of circuits that have the same name in Track Database.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on January 30, 2018, 07:36:53 AM
In the calendar I'll put the link for every track.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: adrmelandri on January 30, 2018, 08:45:12 AM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 30, 2018, 07:36:53 AM
In the calendar I'll put the link for every track.
Glad to hear it ;D
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Adalgood on February 07, 2018, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on January 28, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
Are we using NDS tracks or are we trying Dynamic tracks??

+1. I understand that circuits are already chosen but having dynamic floor circuits would be great. The accumulation of rubber in the asphalt many times makes a difference.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: uberslug on February 08, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on January 29, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
@matty0l215, I was going to use NDS tracks, but the first race will be on Dynamic track (Victoria).


Good to hear. NDS will be more stable but give Victoria a test and see if it works :)

The supposed Dynamic Track issues will never be addressed if all racing is done on NDS Tracks. I vote for DS Tracks.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 Championship 2018
Post by: Hawk on February 08, 2018, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: uberslug on February 08, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on January 29, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Gzehoo on January 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
@matty0l215, I was going to use NDS tracks, but the first race will be on Dynamic track (Victoria).


Good to hear. NDS will be more stable but give Victoria a test and see if it works :)

The supposed Dynamic Track issues will never be addressed if all racing is done on NDS Tracks. I vote for DS Tracks.

NDS tracks were only created(many years ago now) as a stop gap between a more or less stable online GPB experience and Piboso sorting out the Dynamic track online instability issues..... The intention was that once Piboso fixed the DS track issues that the NDS tracks would be deleted or at least archived separately and the DS tracks would be used once again. :)

Personally speaking, the sooner the DS tracks are able to be used all the  time again the better as it adds SO much to the rider/event experience. ;D
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Olaf Lehmann on February 10, 2018, 09:32:58 PM
I have two questions:

1. I have seen there is a new version 1.2 of the MOTO2_17 MOD. Will we use this new version for the Championship or the older one? I'm unsure with which version I should practise.

2. A technical question: Is it impossible to use version 1.1 if the server uses version 1.2?

BR Olaf
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on February 10, 2018, 09:57:37 PM
Moto2 International Cup 2018 will use Moto2 2017 v1.2 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5549.0).
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 10, 2018, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Olaf Lehmann on February 10, 2018, 09:32:58 PM

2. A technical question: Is it impossible to use version 1.1 if the server uses version 1.2?

BR Olaf

Yes impossible mate. You can only have what is loaded to the server.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: DidietXFuera on February 14, 2018, 09:58:12 AM
Is there any pre-season test? or just waiting for 1st race? Thanks
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: JohnnoNinja on February 14, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
After last fix released yesterday by Manu, is version 1.2b going to be used?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Manu on February 14, 2018, 10:48:48 AM
I highly recommend using version 1.2b for the championship.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on February 14, 2018, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: ManuI highly recommend using version 1.2b for the championship.

Will be used.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: uberslug on February 14, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
With so many peeps entered is there any chance of splitting the races between first and third person?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: TimboC137 on February 16, 2018, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: uberslug on February 14, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
With so many peeps entered is there any chance of splitting the races between first and third person?

+1
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Davide74 on February 16, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
I made this skin in case some KTM team does not have any done.

You just have to put the numbers.

(http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/f0/92/b1/67e32a752157583.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/67e32a752157583)
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Davide74 on February 16, 2018, 05:49:01 PM
There will be a Suter championship and another with the rest of the bikes?

lol I did not know
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Wimp #97 on February 16, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
Skin looks sick Davide! how are you soo good at those ... :D also the how to devide all the riders is not decided yet as far as I know, seems to be logical to devide either in regions (times that people can ride) or maybe 3rd person and 1st person or just straight up laptime/ skill level.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Alex Nogueira on February 16, 2018, 11:32:15 PM
Ola rider, Can someone tell me the time of the race for us here in Brazil, on 02/25

Will someone broadcast the race live?

Do you have any rules in the race?

Tancks boys .....
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Davide74 on February 17, 2018, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: Wimp #97 on February 16, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
Skin looks sick Davide! how are you soo good at those ... :D also the how to devide all the riders is not decided yet as far as I know, seems to be logical to devide either in regions (times that people can ride) or maybe 3rd person and 1st person or just straight up laptime/ skill level.

ok, thanks ;)
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Davide74 on February 16, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
I made this skin in case some KTM team does not have any done.

You just have to put the numbers.

(http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/f0/92/b1/67e32a752157583.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/67e32a752157583)

NICKED it  Racing would love to use this livery please Davide. LOVELY JOB THANKS VERY MUCH.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Davide74 on February 17, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Davide74 on February 16, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
I made this skin in case some KTM team does not have any done.

You just have to put the numbers.

(http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/f0/92/b1/67e32a752157583.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/67e32a752157583)

NICKED it  Racing would love to use this livery please Davide. LOVELY JOB THANKS VERY MUCH.

Ok, I finish a few details that are missing and I pass the psd so that you place the numbers to your liking.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2018, 06:22:26 PM
Lovely job mate thank you so much from both of us.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Alex Nogueira on February 18, 2018, 01:50:59 AM
Quote from: Davide74 on February 16, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
I made this skin in case some KTM team does not have any done.

You just have to put the numbers.

(http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/f0/92/b1/67e32a752157583.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/67e32a752157583)

Hello rider, how can I put the number and change the color?
Tancks
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Manu on February 21, 2018, 08:21:38 PM
Moto2 2017 MOD v.1.4 AVAILABLE

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5549.0
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Manu on February 22, 2018, 09:17:21 AM
Hi Gzehoo. Can you consider doing the championship with all the bikes? Now the difference is minimal.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: yan24 on February 22, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Hello,
I can not participate in the championship because of the core.exe at each connection.
Google translation
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Rodrigovis on February 25, 2018, 12:30:44 PM

I'm not getting into the servers of moto2 message bikemismatch.
I'm with version 1.4
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Wimp #97 on February 25, 2018, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on February 25, 2018, 12:30:44 PM

I'm not getting into the servers of moto2 message bikemismatch.
I'm with version 1.4

Delete old moto2 bikes and install again. don't just overwrite.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: DidietXFuera on February 25, 2018, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Wimp #97 on February 25, 2018, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on February 25, 2018, 12:30:44 PM

I'm not getting into the servers of moto2 message bikemismatch.
I'm with version 1.4

Delete old moto2 bikes and install again. don't just overwrite.
Manu have been update the moto2 v1.4. There is some minor updates.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Manu on February 25, 2018, 02:13:10 PM
The update only fix the rider foots position. No mismatch. Only visual.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Manu on February 25, 2018, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on February 25, 2018, 12:30:44 PM

I'm not getting into the servers of moto2 message bikemismatch.
I'm with version 1.4

If you unpacked the .pkz files to put paints you will have to delete all the files except paints folders of moto2 bikes.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Alex Nogueira on March 06, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
It was established by a qualification and race, could not enter the server. Why are some coming in?
when it is a contece the game catches quickly,
tanks..

Excuse me for google translate
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Gzehoo on March 07, 2018, 11:33:33 AM
MOTO2 2017 v1.4b WILL BE USED FROM THE NEXT ROUND AT BUGATTI.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: dareaper46 on April 11, 2018, 11:35:31 AM
Hi guys. I have been absent from GP-Bikes for quite some time.

I am looking at getting back into it - Is the championship still open for new entries?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: teeds on April 11, 2018, 11:52:38 AM
Only 3 races left, next one this Sunday. Should be room if you want to race, there are 2 races at different times of the day http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5847.0
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Napalm Nick on May 13, 2018, 09:09:54 PM
It was a nice championship, thank you Gzehoo for starting it and Teeds for finishing it

Grats to Wimp of course and Teeds for stopping a whitewash lol!

I enjoyed the tracks, lovely to use new ones and old ones we never used much before - some of them are really great!

Thank you.

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54f14896e4b0d73e9d9ef17f/566dc194cbced62f3793416a/566dc19440667a1cc176a158/1450033564518/IMG_3177.jpg?format=1500w)
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Pableke46 on May 14, 2018, 09:14:27 AM
Pretty nice championship !!!!

Congrats to the podium Wimp, Teeds and Mr developer Manu.

I joined to the championship late but the last two races were amazing.

Next champ more and better.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Olaf Lehmann on May 14, 2018, 12:34:22 PM
In the moment of Gzehoos retreat I promised to suspend judgement about the championchip. Now the championship is over...and I would do a retrospection.

But before that I would thank Gzehoo, teeds, Manu and Wimp for their work. My first online bike championchip brought much fun for me.  :)
But for the next championchip I think something could be a bit more professional (I'm a hard man to pleased).  ;)

In my sight this things wasn't ideal in the past championchip:
1. Wimp win all races (if he participated), except he is starting without qualification. Big gratulation to Wimp! You are really the best!
But in real life it's unrealistic. If Doohan dominates the GP500 championchip in the 90th he doesn't won all races. I miss the consequences of mistakes, crashes (if it's not the own fault too). Without that the results of the races are very predictable.
2. Many tracks have a lot of run-off areas. If drivers uses this areas they have an advantage. Like I said on another place it's like playing volleyball without defined playing field. Even if the driver lifting the throttle that he doesn't have an advantage it's not good for suspense, 'cause faults have no effects. That's another reason that the results are predictable.
3. I think we all have better races if we can split the races in a faster and a slower grid (if we have more than 24 participants). In some races I loose totally my concentration initiated by early overlappings.
4. In the first races some people couldn't race because the server was complete.
5. The results/classification wasn't transparent. For some races I couldn't find the result from the other (15CET) race (except Motegi).
By the way: Before I decide to bying my GPB licence sometimes I have had a look in the forum in threads from test races. Often I doesn't see a result. So I thought because that "there must be bigger problems with GPB"...and do not buy the licence.
5.1 At Assen I get a higher score in classification than #6 Alvaro, but he was an half minute faster than me. Maybe he has driven the 15CET race too and was slower in this race but I can't know that (can't find a result from 15CET race)?
5.2 At Aragon vice versa I have driven one lap more than Alvaro and I get a lesser score. I know in this race GPB forgot to count some laps of some drivers. And maybe the original GPB result would be used for classification. But I missed the information about that. And I'm sure in one or more earlier races the result would be corrected.
5.3 For the past championchip we had only a few rules. One was 80% rule. It seems this rule was considered in some races (the first races I think) in some not(the last races).
5.4 The comparing of overlapped and not overlapped drivers wasn't correct. I said it more than one time, but nobody except me see this problem.  :-\

Unfortunately for 1. and 2. I have not really an idea what we can do at the moment to make it better, but we can make 3., 4. and 5. better: transparence, clear definition to 5.2, and so on.

BR Olaf
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: teeds on May 14, 2018, 01:48:13 PM
We made the best of it I think, perhaps not the best idea to start a championship then decide how to run it ;)

On point 5 you are correct, he did the earlier race and was scored correctly on the 1st race results.
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: Hawk on May 14, 2018, 03:12:29 PM
@Olaf: Solutions for 1 could be for Piboso to put an option(only settable by the server/event admin) in the server script so that if you crash then your out of the race. This will force riders to race more realistically instead of riding like a kamakazi rider all the time knowing that if they crash they can always respawn and carry on with the race.

Solution for 2 could be to install checkpoint penalties in the event tracks so that if you run off the track limits at certain points then the rider incurs a 5 second penalty automatically, but you do have to be careful where you install the checkpoints to avoid an unfair penalty, ie: if a rider crashes and skittles into one of these checkpoints then that rider not only has the natural penalty of time wasted due to the crash but also the added time penalty because during the crash he hit the checkpoint penalty.... So this one is not an easy solution to implement to be fair. Unless of course we have the one crash and your out option set as I suggested for solution 1, then of course it would matter?  :)

I've always advocated the one crash and your out feature for serious races because otherwise the races are no better than a joke....an arcade game and not a simulation of an event. And I know they'll be those riders who will say that not all crashes result in the rider not being able to continue, but let's face it, most crashes do result in too much damage for a bike to safely continue the race.  :P
Plus the fact that the way it is at the moment, a rider can ride like a bat out of hell knowing that if he crashes then he can just respawn without penalty and continue on again riding like a bat out of hell, and so long as he doesn't crash too often then there is a good chance, if he is a fast rider, he will win over any other rider that is riding with some sense of reality and sensibility for his own safety. :)

Edit: Or maybe an option in the server script to allow a certain number of crashes before your out.... Say 2 or 3 crashes and your out seems fair to me?
Title: Re: [INFO] Moto2 International Cup 2018
Post by: uberslug on May 14, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 14, 2018, 03:12:29 PM
@Olaf: Solutions for 1 could be for Piboso to put an option(only settable by the server/event admin) in the server script so that if you crash then your out of the race. This will force riders to race more realistically instead of riding like a kamakazi rider all the time knowing that if they crash they can always respawn and carry on with the race.

This would be a welcome addition as there was at least one participant in the 20:00 CET race who took out two other participants in Marquez, not Lorenzo, style.

If the community wants people to continue to participate then something needs to be done about reckless and irresponsible hooliganism. In both races yesterday I was dead last off the line [on purpose] so if you recklessly crashed into me going into turn one in the second race you were behind me because you had crashed at least once already.