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Title: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 22, 2018, 03:24:14 AM

guysThis is my first conversion.
Caruaru one of the Brazilian tracks.
has some problems still like some transparetntes textures and the cameras ...
all the criticisms will be well received ...
If anyone can help with the cameras, I appreciate it.
Good fun.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/p01q5u8qtv82u29/caruaru.rar/file

(https://zupimages.net/up/18/29/k7h9.jpg) (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/29/k7h9.jpg)
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: KG_03 on July 22, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
the track is very very good. I really like it. I didn't notice any problems with transparent textures. I would suggest you to reposition some trees as from the track point of view they look like poles in the ground.
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Reactive on July 22, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on July 22, 2018, 03:24:14 AM
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If anyone can help with the cameras, I appreciate it.


Ask Ghezoo
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 23, 2018, 01:37:30 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Reactive on July 22, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on July 22, 2018, 03:24:14 AM
...
If anyone can help with the cameras, I appreciate it.


Ask Ghezoo
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 23, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
Quote from: KG_03 on July 22, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
the track is very very good. I really like it. I didn't notice any problems with transparent textures. I would suggest you to reposition some trees as from the track point of view they look like poles in the ground.

tks
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Grooveski on July 24, 2018, 12:58:58 AM
Great to see you biting the bullet an getting into (Brazilian ;D) track modding Rodrigo. 
...and we've known each other long enough that I feel I can be straight with you from the off....

It's bumpy  :-\ - and the bumps aren't because the track is bumpy - it's because it's too low-poly.   ;)
GPB is far more sensitive to low-poly models than GP500 was.  Everything taken from rFactor needs smoothed or subdivided or whatever your modelling program calls it.

On the plus side -  GPB can take it - you could subdivide Caruraa two or three times and it'd still run fine.   :)

...but how you go about it will depend on what program you choose to get into modeling with. 
Whichever one you've chosen there will probably be someone here who can talk you through it.   :)
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 24, 2018, 09:49:42 AM
 ;) ;D ;D
Big groovesk ... you were the one who converted the Brazilian tracks to the GP500 :)
this is my first conversion ... and the twists and turns shake a lot, apart from the lack of some textures like the grids on the grid, as well as the grams in local data ...
if you can give me some tips i'm glad
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 24, 2018, 10:07:53 AM

Is it possible to convert the tracks of the automobilista? Julian told me that there are some problems to convert....
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Davide74 on July 24, 2018, 01:58:23 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: cyborg chip on July 24, 2018, 07:45:56 PM
message in brazilian portuguese..

CARUARU que eu conheço é no Ceará... estou certo? rsrs, muito legal.

comecei há pouco tempo no gp bikes e estou jogando em realidade virtual. estou aprendendo..

você costuma jogar em qual server?


abraço.

Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 24, 2018, 10:15:54 PM
Você é Brasileiro?
Na verdade Caruaru fica no pernambuco...
temos um campeonato para o pessoal da nossa região com ping legal https://motovelocidadevirtua.blogspot.com/

Quote from: cyborg chip on July 24, 2018, 07:45:56 PM
message in brazilian portuguese..

CARUARU que eu conheço é no Ceará... estou certo? rsrs, muito legal.

comecei há pouco tempo no gp bikes e estou jogando em realidade virtual. estou aprendendo..

você costuma jogar em qual server?


abraço.
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 24, 2018, 10:46:48 PM
How can I adjust the stroke curves?
Do you have any tutorials for editing?

Quote from: Grooveski on July 24, 2018, 12:58:58 AM
Great to see you biting the bullet an getting into (Brazilian ;D) track modding Rodrigo. 
...and we've known each other long enough that I feel I can be straight with you from the off....

It's bumpy  :-\ - and the bumps aren't because the track is bumpy - it's because it's too low-poly.   ;)
GPB is far more sensitive to low-poly models than GP500 was.  Everything taken from rFactor needs smoothed or subdivided or whatever your modelling program calls it.

On the plus side -  GPB can take it - you could subdivide Caruraa two or three times and it'd still run fine.   :)

...but how you go about it will depend on what program you choose to get into modeling with. 
Whichever one you've chosen there will probably be someone here who can talk you through it.   :)
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Grooveski on July 25, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
The trouble is - I know that the modeling program I use(Lightwave) is weak at this and that it can be done much quicker in 3DS MAX.
...but I don't know how to do it - and every time I've tried I've messed up.   ::)

...but ok - in Lightwave it goes like this:

You get the bit of track you want to smooth onto a layer of it's own, do a Merge Points to make sure everything's welded properly and select the model.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/t5aoquh8v/Caruaru_01.jpg)

Press tab to MetaNURB the model, which makes it look smooth but it's not really - it's just a in-modeler trick.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4osiwfdy7/Caruaru_02.jpg)

Freeze the model.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cuakulhmn/Caruaru_03.jpg)

Nurb and freeze again...

(https://s33.postimg.cc/s30i8dj0v/Caruaru_04.jpg)

...and again - until the poly density is up in the region you're looking for.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/40jodemxb/Caruaru_05.jpg)

So now the road is nice and smooth but it's not welded to the grass or kerbs anymore.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/gqnwqlxhb/Caruaru_06.jpg)

Welding it back up is the tedious part of the job.  I'll try to get it done tonight and upload it to you complete with all the rest of the model.
In the meantime - here's the WIP model for you to check out.  Do a quick conversion of it if you like - just avoid the track edges - the gaps will crash GPB.   ;)

https://mega.nz/#!PolXXIzZ!Hlh-dWkdwiOTs3JVO2qh0nP2ruST9Tb6eypYBzYic7s

Also - here's a guide I made for Seby years ago.  I've changed the way I do a few things since then...
...but not much really - it's still worth a flick through.

https://mega.nz/#!r09lTYaa!RT1RxS0_sRqlNSqcmdTKYgpvtXxtvCjnQM7STlt1uzs


[Edit] Was silly posting a timescale.

Got a fair bit done tonight but it's not even half-way finished.
I'll upload it when it's ready - that's what I should have said.   :)
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 26, 2018, 02:01:31 AM
hello ... I just came home now ... I'm going to download Lightwave and see what I can learn ...
tks


Quote from: Grooveski on July 25, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
The trouble is - I know that the modeling program I use(Lightwave) is weak at this and that it can be done much quicker in 3DS MAX.
...but I don't know how to do it - and every time I've tried I've messed up.   ::)

...but ok - in Lightwave it goes like this:

You get the bit of track you want to smooth onto a layer of it's own, do a Merge Points to make sure everything's welded properly and select the model.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/t5aoquh8v/Caruaru_01.jpg)

Press tab to MetaNURB the model, which makes it look smooth but it's not really - it's just a in-modeler trick.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4osiwfdy7/Caruaru_02.jpg)

Freeze the model.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cuakulhmn/Caruaru_03.jpg)

Nurb and freeze again...

(https://s33.postimg.cc/s30i8dj0v/Caruaru_04.jpg)

...and again - until the poly density is up in the region you're looking for.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/40jodemxb/Caruaru_05.jpg)

So now the road is nice and smooth but it's not welded to the grass or kerbs anymore.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/gqnwqlxhb/Caruaru_06.jpg)

Welding it back up is the tedious part of the job.  I'll try to get it done tonight and upload it to you complete with all the rest of the model.
In the meantime - here's the WIP model for you to check out.  Do a quick conversion of it if you like - just avoid the track edges - the gaps will crash GPB.   ;)

https://mega.nz/#!PolXXIzZ!Hlh-dWkdwiOTs3JVO2qh0nP2ruST9Tb6eypYBzYic7s

Also - here's a guide I made for Seby years ago.  I've changed the way I do a few things since then...
...but not much really - it's still worth a flick through.

https://mega.nz/#!r09lTYaa!RT1RxS0_sRqlNSqcmdTKYgpvtXxtvCjnQM7STlt1uzs


[Edit] Was silly posting a timescale.

Got a fair bit done tonight but it's not even half-way finished.
I'll upload it when it's ready - that's what I should have said.   :)
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Grooveski on July 26, 2018, 10:32:57 AM
Here's something to refer to.
https://mega.nz/#!T9t2hYAA!xuP-_lXJeAIDImINe19Hz3i39_WpWiul9H0SD9TzHsw
You don't need to read it all.  Just look up the commands mentioned in the track guide and read what it says about them.  It's for an old version of LW but nothing's changed much.

You're working in Modeler - just ignore the Layout Program - that's for animation.

Play with the move (t) and rotate (y) tools and get used to how they work differently depending on which viewport you're working in.

Open the Layer, Numeric and Statistic windows and have a good play around with them.  They stay open nearly all of the time.

Snap-Drag (Shift-G) to manually weld one point to another.

Merge Polygons (Shift-Z) to change a pair of triangles to a quad.

Merge Points (m) for the the big final weld.

...and Add Points(in the Multiply Tab) for the tedious bit.


Those are the commands you'll use most for a smoothing job.
Title: Re: Caruaru
Post by: Rodrigovis on July 26, 2018, 10:15:41 PM
thank you so much...


Quote from: Grooveski on July 26, 2018, 10:32:57 AM
Here's something to refer to.
https://mega.nz/#!T9t2hYAA!xuP-_lXJeAIDImINe19Hz3i39_WpWiul9H0SD9TzHsw
You don't need to read it all.  Just look up the commands mentioned in the track guide and read what it says about them.  It's for an old version of LW but nothing's changed much.

You're working in Modeler - just ignore the Layout Program - that's for animation.

Play with the move (t) and rotate (y) tools and get used to how they work differently depending on which viewport you're working in.

Open the Layer, Numeric and Statistic windows and have a good play around with them.  They stay open nearly all of the time.

Snap-Drag (Shift-G) to manually weld one point to another.

Merge Polygons (Shift-Z) to change a pair of triangles to a quad.

Merge Points (m) for the the big final weld.

...and Add Points(in the Multiply Tab) for the tedious bit.


Those are the commands you'll use most for a smoothing job.