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Title: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on April 05, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Hi all,

Honda NSR 500 model 1995 is now available !!!

Version : v1.0 for GPBikes beta8


Description

Physic and sounds are those of the cagiva 500 (varese)
New stand
New geom file
Rain/grass/sand tyres
The seat is new and I added the spring of the damper.
I added details on fairings.

Skin is based on the original color of Honda motorcycles sold to private teams

(http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/images/64247_screen013.png)

(http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/images/67011_screen014.png)

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I also provide you 3 templates to create new skins.

(http://zupimages.net/up/14/14/7m60.png)

Texture's names are :
BIKE.TGA
COCKPIT.TGA
RIM.TGA


Download

Bike :
Download Honda NSR 500 - 1995 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/c38jxsdfk0qxraw/GP500_Honda_NSR_1995_b8_v1.zip?dl=0) - 46.01 Mo (Dropbox)

Templates :
Download (https://www.dropbox.com/s/997eunizyxzcg34/Templates%20Honda%20NSR%201995.zip?dl=0) - 13,41 Mo (Dropbox)

Special Thanks to Matty for the rider skin and PeterV for his advises and help about physic of the bike

Have fun !!!   ;)


Credits
Model : JC#21
Rider Skins : matty0l215
Help and advice : PeterV


post-it :
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: SA_22 on April 05, 2014, 11:26:22 AM
SEXY!  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Abigor on April 05, 2014, 11:33:10 AM
Waaw!!! Thanks  :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JamoZ on April 05, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
Great work man, one of the most iconic bikes of all time :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Klax75 on April 05, 2014, 12:30:35 PM
Great Work! Can I add this to the next release of Bike-MOD? :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 05, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
It's nice to see someone creating 500cc 2 stroke MOD bikes.... Your a STAR JC#21!!! ;D ;D 8) 8)

Can oDi work his physics magic on this bike? How about it oDi? ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Alby46 on April 05, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
looks wonderful, it's what i was i waiting for :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: _oDi_ on April 05, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 05, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
It's nice to see someone creating 500cc 2 stroke MOD bikes.... Your a STAR JC#21!!! ;D ;D 8) 8)

Can oDi work his physics magic on this bike? How about it oDi? ;D


Thanks for the confidence :D but...also working on the physics, I do not think there would be much difference compared to the Cagiva ... perhaps a little 'more power and drivability (better chassis and tires). Is it worth it? What do you think? :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Alby46 on April 05, 2014, 01:19:27 PM
they had a different chassis ( i think ), cause cagiva used a carbon chassis
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: PeterV on April 05, 2014, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 05, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Hi all,

Honda NSR 500 model 95' is now available !!!

Crédits : JC (Export/Import/Modifications/Shaders/Textures/Skins/Cockpit HUD)

ooh very nice indeed thank you very much, what a surprise :P
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: vash on April 05, 2014, 01:33:25 PM
Thank you JC ,;; great work , she's beautiful.  :o     
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Alone on April 05, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Great work JC!!! Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 05, 2014, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: _oDi_ on April 05, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 05, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
It's nice to see someone creating 500cc 2 stroke MOD bikes.... Your a STAR JC#21!!! ;D ;D 8) 8)

Can oDi work his physics magic on this bike? How about it oDi? ;D


Thanks for the confidence :D but...also working on the physics, I do not think there would be much difference compared to the Cagiva ... perhaps a little 'more power and drivability (better chassis and tires). Is it worth it? What do you think? :)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I sense that the 500cc Cagiva is not exactly accurate to say the least with the real bike, so I would say to integrate the real physics of the NSR 500 would be a real plus! ;D
The Cagiva is okay to ride, but us 500cc 2 stroke guys have very little option but to ride either that or the RG500 which has adopted the Cagiva physics file too, so in effect we have only one bike to ride physics wise. Please give it a go oDi.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: skerp on April 05, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
Thanks for this Beatiful Work! JC21
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JC#21 on April 05, 2014, 03:59:53 PM
Thank you guys for your comments, I really appreciate ;)

Quote from: Klax75 on April 05, 2014, 12:30:35 PM
Great Work! Can I add this to the next release of Bike-MOD? :D

It's ok for me temporarily because I would rather include this bike, the cagiva and also the suzuki rgv (if ringhino is ok) into a new bikeset with only 500cc as the bikeset WSS.

What do you think guys ? Create a bikeset and add all the next 500cc into it.

Quote from: _oDi_ on April 05, 2014, 01:17:46 PM

Thanks for the confidence :D but...also working on the physics, I do not think there would be much difference compared to the Cagiva ... perhaps a little 'more power and drivability (better chassis and tires). Is it worth it? What do you think? :)

I do not think it's necessary. Physic of cagiva is good and can be used to an other 500cc.
Moreover, we have no data to modify physics and geom. It will be a very difficult task for just a little more power.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 05, 2014, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 05, 2014, 03:59:53 PM

Quote from: _oDi_ on April 05, 2014, 01:17:46 PM

Thanks for the confidence :D but...also working on the physics, I do not think there would be much difference compared to the Cagiva ... perhaps a little 'more power and drivability (better chassis and tires). Is it worth it? What do you think? :)

I do not think it's necessary. Physic of cagiva is good and can be used to an other 500cc.
Moreover, we have no data to modify physics and geom. It will be a very difficult task for just a little more power.

@JC#21: "The physics of the Cagiva is good".... Really? Anyone else think the same? Lol.
Okay.... I'll qualify that by agreeing that all the bikes physics are good, but accurate? Hmm... I doubt that very much.

I just don't understand why you think that each different 500cc bike can make do with using the physics file of the Cagiva? Each 500cc GP racing bike is obviously different to one another(Power/Handling/Balance, etc, etc), same as each 1000cc MotoGP bike is different to one another....
I just think that ideally, if possible, every bike MOD should reflect as real as possible, the real physics and handling of the machine created. Someone somewhere must have the knowledge and details that would be required to do this work for each bike. And I also think that to just make do with a standard physics file for each MOD bike is a terrible injustice to the potential of GP Bikes.

As the old saying goes.... "Were there's a will, there's a way".  ;) ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: HornetMaX on April 05, 2014, 05:03:18 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on April 05, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
Great work man, one of the most iconic bikes of all time :)

Ditto.

MaX.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JC#21 on April 05, 2014, 06:06:10 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 05, 2014, 04:44:12 PM

@JC#21: "The physics of the Cagiva is good".... Really? Anyone else think the same? Lol.
Okay.... I'll qualify that by agreeing that all the bikes physics are good, but accurate? Hmm... I doubt that very much.

I just don't understand why you think that each different 500cc bike can make do with using the physics file of the Cagiva? Each 500cc GP racing bike is obviously different to one another(Power/Handling/Balance, etc, etc), same as each 1000cc MotoGP bike is different to one another....
I just think that ideally, if possible, every bike MOD should reflect as real as possible, the real physics and handling of the machine created. Someone somewhere must have the knowledge and details that would be required to do this work for each bike. And I also think that to just make do with a standard physics file for each MOD bike is a terrible injustice to the potential of GP Bikes.

As the old saying goes.... "Were there's a will, there's a way".  ;) ;D

Currently, it's my point of view.
I have no point of comparison to judge correctly if the physic of the cagiva is realistic or not. It seems good for me  :P

Also, I'm agree with you when you said each bikes have different specificities. The WSS bikeset is a perfect example and I want this but between to find data of wss and data of old 500cc there is a gap.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: KLJ#14 on April 05, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Christmas came early this year!

Love it!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: _oDi_ on April 05, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
For me, the physics of the Cagiva is perfect, it would be hard to do better without a lot of information on NSR ... considering that we do not have the appropriate tools, and in any case, at the level of "feelings", I don't think it differs too from Cagiva . However, Jc  decide, he's made the bike :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 05, 2014, 07:08:16 PM

Okay guys, no problem, I understand were your coming from, I really do..... I tell you what, I'll do you guys a deal:

If I can get hold of the data required to as accurately as possible create the physics file for the NSR 500:

I can't promise anything, but if you both agree to the above I will do all I can to contact the required people and acquire the data needed for you guys to achieve this. ;) ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: BozoCRO on April 05, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
Greta job JC. Love the model. Dash is so realistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXVZQjerxw Hope this helps Hawk. It's a 2 cylinder nsr
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JC#21 on April 06, 2014, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 05, 2014, 07:08:16 PM
JC#21:[/b] Will you allow creation of a new physics file for your NSR 500 Model?[/li][/list]

For me, it's not a priority, but you are free to work on a new physic. If you can find data for all the 500cc it would be perfect and helpful for the bikeset 500cc.

Quote from: BozoCRO on April 05, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
Great job JC. Love the model. Dash is so realistic.

thx  ;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 06, 2014, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 06, 2014, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 05, 2014, 07:08:16 PM
JC#21:[/b] Will you allow creation of a new physics file for your NSR 500 Model?[/li][/list]

For me, it's not a priority, but you are free to work on a new physic. If you can find data for all the 500cc it would be perfect and helpful for the bikeset 500cc.


Thanks JC.  ;D

I understand it's not your priority, but at least you have been good enough to allow permission to work on a new physics file. Thank you mate. ;) 8)

If I can get hold of the required bike data, not just for the NSR, but for as many classic 500cc GP bikes as I can, I will create a database and upload all the info into it for anyone to download what they need to create the required physics files for these bikes.
I'm a BIG fan of the 500cc 2 stroke era and so I would like these bikes to be simulated as accurately as possible. Ideally we want Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki/Cagiva and Kawasaki 500cc GP 2 strokes created then we can have a very interesting "Old School" 500cc GP world championships each year to also include manufacturers/team titles as well as the riders titles up for grabs.  It would be GREAT! ;D 8)

PS: When you said, " but you are free to work on a new physic.", I presume that also means your happy for oDi and his team too? I think oDi and his team would really do it justice if they have the time to devout to this.
Just need to get the bike data for these guys.... It's like getting blood out of a stone. Hehe.
There's got to be people somewhere who have this data or at least know others who can supply it for us.... I'm working on it!  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Alby46 on April 06, 2014, 10:06:08 AM
i'd like that too :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: SwarleyRuiz on April 07, 2014, 06:54:28 AM
BIG THANKS JC. Great work, downloading.  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: C21 on April 07, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
@JC21: very good work mate, much appriciated. I was thinking for a long time why nobody is doing 500cc models based on the cagiva....change the fairings and seats and shape of fuel tanks,....not much work for a 3d modeller  ;)

@Physics:
As a few guys are able to do some decent physics for the models it should be possible to get different physic sets for each mod.
The modder should have the permission by the creator of the bike(s) or bikeset in my opinion if the new physics set will be used online and in online races.

Personally i´m also a hardcore enthusiasts and like the physics as close to "real" as possible.
For example the WSS-Mod:
Great mod , great work and much fun to play BUT not 100% accurate. I´ve discussed with ODI and understand his point of view to take the playability and fun as top priority  ;D
I´m not 100% satisfied because MY (own) expectations were not fulfilled but do i blame the creator of the mod for this? NO, because he has his proirities for developing the mod how he like it!
But if someone will be developing a "more real" WSS physic set why not? It is no disrespect of the work ODI has done!
It will be the same with a 500cc mod.
We can play with different bikes and the same physics on each bike or with a hardcore bikeset developed by someone who is able to do that.
You can display on the server list which physics are used so no problem to join the server with the physics you like.
Players can test different physics and can play with the one they prefer.
You will always have players which prefer only one physic file for every bike class because only the rider will make the difference and you will have players who like the other way (each bike has it´s own physic).

Bike data is not a problem anymore (thanks to the net) but the problem i see is:
How to develop a bike as real as possible if noone ever has ridden this type of bike? How should we determine "This is real"? It´s not possible to ride a 500cc GP Bike to get the feeling......
We have some guys on the forum riding 600cc Supersports or Cup track bikes, so we can get a decent feedback on this type of bike but 500cc GP??
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 07, 2014, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: C21 on April 07, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
Bike data is not a problem anymore (thanks to the net) but the problem i see is:
How to develop a bike as real as possible if noone ever has ridden this type of bike? How should we determine "This is real"? It´s not possible to ride a 500cc GP Bike to get the feeling......
We have some guys on the forum riding 600cc Supersports or Cup track bikes, so we can get a decent feedback on this type of bike but 500cc GP??

I agree with almost everything you said in your previous post C21..... But I'd qualify the above statement by saying that most modern bike data maybe relatively easy to find on the internet, but have you ever tried finding a dyno chart or frame geometry data for a bike like the 1982 YZR OW60 Yamaha 500cc GP bike? Or any of the other so called classic 500cc GP Bikes? If you know of a good source then please let me know. ;D

As for your paragraph in your previous post about knowing if a bike is accurate to the real thing as possible?..... Well I'm not sure about this, but as I understand it, that if you have all the required data needed, and I do mean all the required data, and you can implement that data in the correct way, in that your physics model/formulas are correct, then so long as the real data is put into that physics model then it should react the same as the real model?
I think the problems occur when you don't have all the correct required data to accurately model the physics and therefore you start to guess certain factors which can lead to inaccuracies in the end result. Which is where you would need a real rider to come along to give you feedback so that you can tweek those unknown factors till the test rider says, "Yes, it feels good and life-like". Am I correct in this presumption of mine?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Vini on April 07, 2014, 01:05:52 PM
You might want to check out forums like these:
http://rzrd500.com/500phpBB3/index.php
http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/
http://2stroker.createforumhosting.com/north-american-two-strokes-forum-f19.html

Or you can join the Gamma list and ask the guys.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 07, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: BozoCRO on April 05, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
Greta job JC. Love the model. Dash is so realistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXVZQjerxw Hope this helps Hawk. It's a 2 cylinder nsr

Thanks for that BozoCRO. I will contact this group and see if I can find any contacts that can provide any useful data we can use.

Thanks again mate! ;) ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 07, 2014, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: vin97 on April 07, 2014, 01:05:52 PM
You might want to check out forums like these:
http://rzrd500.com/500phpBB3/index.php
Already joined this forum many months ago and contacted several guys on there.... not heard back from any, bar one, who promised to send me details of the Yamaha YZR 500cc bike, but despite contacting him several times since, he has still not fulfilled his intention.

Quote from: vin97 on April 07, 2014, 01:05:52 PM
http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/
http://2stroker.createforumhosting.com/north-american-two-strokes-forum-f19.html
These look like interesting leads that I will follow up and see if anyone there can point me in the right directions....



Thanks vin97.... If you find anything else then post here or PM me and I'll follow them up.

Thanks again mate! ;D 8)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: C21 on April 08, 2014, 06:38:32 AM
QuoteI agree with almost everything you said in your previous post C21..... But I'd qualify the above statement by saying that most modern bike data maybe relatively easy to find on the internet, but have you ever tried finding a dyno chart or frame geometry data for a bike like the 1982 YZR OW60 Yamaha 500cc GP bike? Or any of the other so called classic 500cc GP Bikes?
Correct  ;)
It´s hard to find data about the classic ones...
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Vini on April 08, 2014, 01:56:07 PM
There are also a couple of german forums you could check out:
http://www.rd350lc.de/forum/
http://www.ilil.de/wbb/hmportal.php
http://board.zweitakte.de/index.php

Getting data for the old RG 500 square four should be easy because tuned Gamma engines are almost identical to the actual GP ones.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: lorenzods on April 08, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
congratulations, this is the most detailed bike that I have found so far
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 08, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Great bike! Very nice thankyou JC!

NSR feels different to the cagiva (varese) I think!

Seems to have more grip?

Ps. Could somebody create a loris capirossi painjob? The black pons west team colours?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Arvoss on April 08, 2014, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 08, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Great bike! Very nice thankyou JC!

NSR feels different to the cagiva (varese) I think!

Seems to have more grip?

Ps. Could somebody create a loris capirossi painjob? The black pons west team colours?

I was going to make the West paint after I finished the Furtuna skin :D Maybe tomorrow :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: HornetMaX on April 08, 2014, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 08, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
NSR feels different to the cagiva (varese) I think!

Seems to have more grip?
Placebo effect of riding an Honda. Physics is the same.

MaX.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 08, 2014, 09:45:28 PM
Honda power!!! ;)

@Arvoss.. Looking forward to that fella! Nice 1.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: C21 on April 09, 2014, 06:19:45 AM
QuoteI was going to make the West paint after I finished the Furtuna skin :D Maybe tomorrow :D
I was just thinking....nastro azzuro, fortuna,...hmm...what about a West paintjob...and there it is  ;D
Great job so far Arvoss!  :)

I don´t feel any difference to the Cagiva.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 09, 2014, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: vin97 on April 08, 2014, 01:56:07 PM
There are also a couple of german forums you could check out:
http://www.rd350lc.de/forum/
http://www.ilil.de/wbb/hmportal.php
http://board.zweitakte.de/index.php

Getting data for the old RG 500 square four should be easy because tuned Gamma engines are almost identical to the actual GP ones.

Thanks vin97..... Language barrier could be a prob, but I'll have a look at these. Hopefully some will speak English. :)

It's not hard to find people who own these bikes, it's the data(Engine dyno charts and bike geometry) required to do a genuine physics file that is the problem, but these forum leads will help greatly in finding someone who either has the data, or can provide a contact to someone who has the data.

Keep them coming mate....Thanks again Vin.  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Vini on April 09, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
Yes, most of them speak english :D


The YZR will probably the hardest one to find any data.
But I know that a few of them have access to production racers.
Especially the guy named teamheronsuzuki has a lot of contacts.


Franco from Maranello Engineering might also have a few dyno charts for the RG 500.
http://www.maranello-engineering.com/
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on April 09, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: vin97 on April 09, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
Yes, most of them speak english :D


The YZR will probably the hardest one to find any data.
But I know that a few of them have access to production racers.
Especially the guy named teamheronsuzuki has a lot of contacts.


Franco from Maranello Engineering might also have a few dyno charts for the RG 500.
http://www.maranello-engineering.com/

Thank you again, Vin..... I will contact Franco and see if he can help us.  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: wulfgaard on April 23, 2014, 10:57:54 PM
Great job! Loads of fun!

Personally, I find the clutch a bit too slippery, but I never ridden a NSR 500 so I wouldn't know... :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Vini on May 23, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
After doing a few laps on Jerez today, I noticed that the 500 simply has not enough grip.
I know it's 1995 tyre technology but how about a 2002 version of the NSR with the same physics except a greater maximum lean angle?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JC#21 on June 30, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
Hi all,

new version of this bike for GPBikes beta5b : http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=922.msg9919#msg9919
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: Hawk on June 30, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
Thanks JC... Appreciated!  ;) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: PeterV on October 11, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
Oke im training on Monza a bit and i started with the Yamaha YZR500'93, switched to the Suzuki RGV500'93, they pretty much feel the same handling wise. (i use the same setup)
Then i switched to this beauty the NSR500'95, man what a difference in handling, by that i mean the wobbles on this beast are almost uncontrolable.
It is like 20-25% more then the Yamaha and Suzuki with the same setup. How can this be? Different geometry of the NSR? (i dont see any riders using this bike, is this the reason?)
My gut feeling tells me that theres something wrong with the model. Can the author clarify that?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: JC#21 on October 11, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
Quote from: PeterV on October 11, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
Oke im training on Monza a bit and i started with the Yamaha YZR500'93, switched to the Suzuki RGV500'93, they pretty much feel the same handling wise. (i use the same setup)
Then i switched to this beauty the NSR500'95, man what a difference in handling, by that i mean the wobbles on this beast are almost uncontrolable.
It is like 20-25% more then the Yamaha and Suzuki with the same setup. How can this be? Different geometry of the NSR? (i dont see any riders using this bike, is this the reason?)
My gut feeling tells me that theres something wrong with the model. Can the author clarify that?

Hi PeterV, thanks for your feedback.

Indeed the geometry is different on each bike. Since beta5 I always said that there was a problem with the physics (wobbles). To reduce them you have to decrease all the values of springs front and rear.

Now why the NSR wobbles more that the 2 others ? I don't know.

Currently I haven't time to work on models for GPBikes but I take the note.
I have a lot of things to check, correct and add.

I appreciate the feedback because they permit me to improve models  ;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95'
Post by: PeterV on October 11, 2014, 06:57:42 PM
TY for the response JC#21
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on November 15, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
here we go, the new version is available on first post.

have fun  ;)

(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Images/honda500nsr95.png?_subject_uid=277378013&w=AAAXmkHdccRYy_ZWwgyjLGggxr4Asda2REs4GPap4Y4gsQ)

Any comments are welcome to improve this mod
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: doubledragoncc on November 15, 2014, 05:38:01 PM
Thanks so much m8. Brilliant work!!!!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Hawk on November 15, 2014, 06:22:02 PM
 ;D ;D ;D... Thank you JC!......  ;D ;D ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
note to myself...i need to do the Gardner #10 skin :P Thanks a million.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Davide74 on November 15, 2014, 07:01:31 PM
Thanks JC!!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Alby46 on November 15, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
great jc, i already have some skins for it :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
Hi all,

This bike will be available soon for the beta8  :)

I would like to know if someone was interested to create the skin of the rider with the base model colors.
Tell me if you want do it.



Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Hawk on April 02, 2016, 09:02:51 AM
Brilliant! That's great news JC! Can't wait to try this 2 stroke beauty!  ;D ;D

Thank you JC!  ;D 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Meyer#12 on April 02, 2016, 09:14:22 AM
Great news!!! Really looking forward to this! Love this bike! :)

Ps. Was the first bike in GPB i won a race with :D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Napalm Nick on April 02, 2016, 09:15:19 AM
Great news JC thank you.  8)

Needs a good suit painter!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Blackheart on April 02, 2016, 09:17:06 AM
Great JC!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Docfumi on April 02, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
The bike DL Links are not working for me, HMMM!!!!!  :(
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: PeterV on April 02, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: Docfumi on April 02, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
The bike DL Links are not working for me, HMMM!!!!!  :(

Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
Hi all,

This bike will be available soon for the beta8  :)


:-X
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Docfumi on April 02, 2016, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: PeterV on April 02, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: Docfumi on April 02, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
The bike DL Links are not working for me, HMMM!!!!!  :(

Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
Hi all,

This bike will be available soon for the beta8  :)


:-X

I"m a total blockhead, just got home from a 12hour work day, need I say more.

Thanks PeterV  ;D
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
I would like to know if someone was interested to create the skin of the rider with the base model colors.
Tell me if you want do it.

Maybe i can help? :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Davide74 on April 02, 2016, 12:30:21 PM
Great news JC!!  ;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
I would like to know if someone was interested to create the skin of the rider with the base model colors.
Tell me if you want do it.

Maybe i can help? :)

OK Matty, what do you you need to create the rider skin for this bike model colors ?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 03:37:48 PM
Some pictures of the bike, with its colours. That's pretty much it.

Maybe the base motorcycle skin .tga (so i can get a good reference of the colours)

:D

Matty
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 03:37:48 PM
Some pictures of the bike, with its colours. That's pretty much it.

Maybe the base motorcycle skin .tga (so i can get a good reference of the colours)

:D

Matty

here we go

screenshots + bike.tga (https://www.dropbox.com/s/abpwabcntd58jpt/GP500_1995_Honda_500_NSR_b8_images.zip?dl=0)

;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 02, 2016, 04:10:59 PM
Cool thanks for the TGA, can work on a skin in prep for your release of it. Really looking forward to this and the other 500 2st again.

Thanks for the hard work bro

DD

PS: I posted a link in paints to a cool site for paint reference with 36 paints for NSR500.....
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 02, 2016, 03:37:48 PM
Some pictures of the bike, with its colours. That's pretty much it.

Maybe the base motorcycle skin .tga (so i can get a good reference of the colours)

:D

Matty

here we go

screenshots + bike.tga (https://www.dropbox.com/s/abpwabcntd58jpt/GP500_1995_Honda_500_NSR_b8_images.zip?dl=0)

;)

Thanks. I'll get to work :)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: doNico on April 06, 2016, 04:48:21 AM
i cant WAIT :D  :o
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: AlbertAntoni on April 08, 2016, 07:57:05 AM
HI! I try to download the 500 but i click in the mega link or dropboxlink and say "about:blank". I can download templates but not the bike. Help please, thanks!!!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Napalm Nick on April 08, 2016, 07:59:25 AM


Quote from: JC#21 on April 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM
Hi all,

This bike will be available soon for the beta8  :)


Come on Albert! That means it isn't ready yet but will be soooooon lol.  ;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: JC#21 on June 11, 2016, 06:58:46 PM
hey guys !!! this bike is released - here - (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=922.msg9919#msg9919)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Boerenlater on June 11, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Davide74 on June 11, 2016, 08:25:28 PM
JC for president!!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Hawk on June 11, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
2 stroke 500.... Oh Yeah! Now we're talking!  ;D 8)

Much appreciated JC! Thank you mate!  ;D ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 11, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Thank you JC  8)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Meyer#12 on June 11, 2016, 09:42:09 PM
2 stroke!!!! :D THANK YOU JC!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: PeterV on June 11, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
There she is the beauty is ready for a race me thinks :p

Thx JC
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Davide74 on July 25, 2018, 11:03:47 PM
Is there an intention to update this wonder?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Tom HWK on July 26, 2018, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: Davide74 on July 25, 2018, 11:03:47 PM
Is there an intention to update this wonder?

I was going to ask the same thing...
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: connorhall70 on July 26, 2018, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Davide74 on July 25, 2018, 11:03:47 PM
Is there an intention to update this wonder?

WOT IS THERE TO UPDATE M8??
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on July 26, 2018, 04:54:45 PM
Nobody seems to show interest in the Old GP500 bikes.

Shame, Best racing in GPB on some of the Old School Races (hosted By PeterV and Stout)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Tom HWK on July 26, 2018, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on July 26, 2018, 04:54:45 PM
Nobody seems to show interest in the Old GP500 bikes.

Loved sliding this thing around, hope it gets updated. Wasn't there a Yamaha as well?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on July 26, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: Tom HWK on July 26, 2018, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on July 26, 2018, 04:54:45 PM
Nobody seems to show interest in the Old GP500 bikes.

Loved sliding this thing around, hope it gets updated. Wasn't there a Yamaha as well?

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=5271.0

If/When some more interest is shown we can spend some time getting the bikes Beta 14 ready
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: RobinHoodUKIP on July 27, 2018, 01:04:24 AM
dropbox says link not found, is this in the mega bike downloads?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Tosteetos on August 18, 2018, 06:03:40 PM
+1 for updating this! we need more interesting bikes... bikes that show some soul!  8)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Davide74 on August 18, 2018, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: Tosteetos on August 18, 2018, 06:03:40 PM
+1 for updating this! we need more interesting bikes... bikes that show some soul!  8)

i agreeee!!
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: matty0l215 on August 20, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
If you can convince JC to come back modding then we will all be better off ;)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Yulsss on August 29, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
How can I download this bike?
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Hawk on August 29, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Quote from: Yulsss on August 29, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
How can I download this bike?

If it's not in the "BikeMOD Database": then it's not been updated and won't work.....

BikeMOD Database Forum Thread: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2626.msg38831#msg38831 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2626.msg38831#msg38831)
Title: Re: [BIKE] Honda NSR 500 95
Post by: Yulsss on August 30, 2018, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 29, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Quote from: Yulsss on August 29, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
How can I download this bike?

If it's not in the "BikeMOD Database": then it's not been updated and won't work.....

BikeMOD Database Forum Thread: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2626.msg38831#msg38831 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2626.msg38831#msg38831)

Thanks for the explanation!