I've taken my time to get used to the new beta and found some good setups for Manu's MotoGP bikes (big thanks BTW as always!), which I tested on multiple tracks.
My conclusion is that the physics changes (including tyre model, geometry, suspension, etc.) are quite good (3D curbs are finally usable!!). They promote a smoother, more realistic riding style (unless you use massive amounts of TC) and the way the tyres and the whole bike in general behave seem much better. The bikes definitely have to be adapted to the new beta but Manu has done a very good job for that.
With the right setup, sliding the rear under braking and hard trailbraking works just as well as before
but in situations where the bike is relatively upright and the rear is close to lifting, the virtual rider goes absolutely crazy and makes the front lock (example). It's very much like what happened in beta13 when doing big stoppies. The difference is that before, you had to reach very high stoppie angles (while trying to steer) so it really didn't influence riding much at all because you normally never get into those situations unless you do it on purpose. The behaviour for "normal"/realistic stoppie angles was completely fine (
see at 23s; the fact that you almost can't tell that the rear was in the air is proof that the old virtual rider stoppie code was good +
another example at 36s).
Anyway, this is a big problem because hard braking is somewhat broken as other people have said.
I propose a simple hotfix where the new virtual rider "stoppie code" is reverted back to the beta13 one while everything else stays the same. Finetuning can be done after thatThe new virtual rider "wheelie code" seems good, though. Tankslappers occur a bit more rarely now and the bike is more stable out of corners
but it's still not allowing the front wheel to stay misaligned for longer distances by taking all pressure of the handlebars like real riders do. Would like to hear your opinion on
my proposal from some time ago, PiBoSo!
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