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if turning left and over-steering, the virtual rider will steer less, i.e. steer less to the left, which is steer to the right, counter-steer. That would be fine then, so maybe is just a matter, as Stout said, of not doing that quickly enough (i.e. the reaction to an over-steer is not strong/quick enough).

MaX.

It's pretty ambiguous in both examples. Playing today I have definitely noticed the 'steering into apex when understeering', but it still doesn't make sense to look at. Plenty of speed and the right angle through a berm and half way around he just ditches the front end..

What strikes me as a bit odd however, is surely an oversteer in bike and car terminology involves the front wheel(s) pretty much staying on course (which would be treated as correcting / maintaining / controlling)..  When loosing it at high speed, the only way to bring an oversteering mass into alignment is to ease off and control the acceleration and try and get the back end to bite.. Unless you are very skilled, trying to keep the front end on course is the only thing that will keep your car on the track..

Am I wrong?

I would have thought if anything that there is far more going on here than just the rider steering.. Or maybe there isn't, which is why it's so hard to control. I can't deny it - the rider in MXB does an excellent job of correcting oversteer, if your throttle control and rider lean is right you'll be back in a straight line in no time, it's just a shame if you end up correcting it in a way that leads to understeer lol 

I am not 100% sure on the specifics of what pib said, but I know most obvious one is under steering.

Johnson I am not saying you are wrong whatsoever (disclaimer but I am not sure that is what is happening with oversteer. I can say that with understeer in mx bikes I loose the bike and end up on the floor because of the potentially un confirmed 'auto correct' in moments where I know I can slow down and correct the understeer myself. Instead- if understeering left, the rider seems to attempt to correct this by sharply steering left causing the frond end to loose traction. If oversteer works the opposite then 'steer less' could potentially mean steer in to the apex to level the bike, instead of out more to control the slide, as with understeer it definitely tries to level the bike instead of control the understeer..

sorry if that doesn't make sense. On my phone and it keeps moving the cursor to the top line which I only notice after typing some lol might do a couple of test vids

I asked the same question at the bottom of page 8.. keeping an eye out for a response. If it is the case then maybe there is a possibility of giving us (in mxb & gpb) a setting to disable, maybe a 0 - 100% like the direct lean input.

Surely the biggest problem for a bike motion simulator is the corners? IRL when you lean a bike right over to corner you're being held in the seat / on the bike through the g-force generated by the bike traveling away from its previous trajectory - the same way the water stays in the bucket when swung upside down - centrifugal?

All full motion bike simulators I've seen so far look odd. Looks like you would be literally hanging on to the bike when cornering - feeling gravity's pull vertically, instead of being held in the seat through g-force horizontally.

Totally plausible, I just don't think anyone would want to try it over 10mph..

http://www.youtube.com/v/M9ZUDLuGrZQ?rel=0

Hey, I'm mainly from the MX Bikes forum, but check this board for news, been registered for a short while...

Noticing this post I couldn't resist uploading something I recorded a while back 

http://www.youtube.com/v/NaU96ekIXzA?rel=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaU96ekIXzA&feature=youtu.be