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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #165 on: September 02, 2017, 07:52:31 AM »
Very true Grimm

Shame that it is not been made that all could be combined into one sim covering all and being able to use a combination of MXB n GPB or GPB n WRS if you know what I mean BUT it is because the physics in each is different we cant.

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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2017, 03:25:04 PM »
Look at Daily dev, He spent month working on KRP, he just released beta12, DD, Mike and Matt were at silverstone, they are new bugs coming with the last update, we have a lot of wishes and suggestion etc...
He spent 3 days working on : "MXB: work on the physics"
What's wrong with that?  :-\
What would you like to see instead?

Nothing wrong with me @PiBoSo. I'm just pointing out that we all want you to commit more or less exclusively on GPB because we love that sim and we think it has a huge potential. Most of us think that the dev of GPB could go faster and be on the top of the priority list. But, you are still the boss and you decide wether or not you will spend time on this or that soft.

I'm just saying to the crowd, keep calm. We cannot chose for you, we cannot dev for you. And I think that you don't really want GPB to be pushed under the spotlights, or at least, not as much as us. Guigui is right I think with the Notch comparaison.

Could be a possibility , like notch with Minecraft , who was sad with a big community and impossibility to satisfate everyone

Maybe one day, you could tell us what is really your goal, where do you see your softs in the future, what do you want for PiBoSo titles. It could help us to not jump in the hype train every time we see something that has potential for GPB.

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« Reply #167 on: September 02, 2017, 07:09:54 PM »
DD IS LIVE ON HIS STREAM NOW AND REQUESTS YOUR COMPANY PLEASE  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdicN7_NTmE
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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #168 on: September 02, 2017, 07:35:56 PM »
Thank you Nick
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« Reply #169 on: September 02, 2017, 08:18:54 PM »
I decided not to show pics or videos for now to keep all safe. I will ask permission from Dorna to do so and hope to post later next week.

For now I just made a video with all info and answered a few questions.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/YCg1sSlQOso&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/YCg1sSlQOso&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>


I hope this answers your questions. If you want to do a QnA at anytime let me know.

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I buggered up. Asked if music could be heard and turned it right down but still got hit by YT for copyright so will sort it out
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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #170 on: September 02, 2017, 10:32:45 PM »
Thanks for the effort dd (and anybody who contributed).

I'm still not optimistic (to put it mildly) about the chances of GPB of becoming the product they pick, but who knows ...

One thing that was probably worth explaining to the Dorna people (and went untold, unless I'm missing something) it's why GPB is better than others, why it is technically superior as a simulator.
I guess a few Dorna people can get pretty technical and could have enjoyed the degree of attention PiBoSo has put into correct simulation of bike physics.
Things like multi-body simulation based on state-of-the-art bike model representation, tyre model, aerodynamics effects ...

I mean, these are the things Milestone may have trouble to cope with (I say may as once PiBoSo said that one of the Milestone's dev guys is, in his opinion, more than capable to bang out a proper bike physics, if requested to do so). Allowing to use configurable input devices is something Milestone can do in no time flat (if requested to do so).

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Tiny business advice: never (never) say something "I wouldn't let motogp rider XXXX to sit on my system" (no matter how deeply you do think that). This is the kind of thing that puts you out of play in no time.

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« Reply #171 on: September 02, 2017, 10:47:18 PM »

DD already looks like a Coen Brothers' character. The pass story was just perfect.
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« Reply #172 on: September 02, 2017, 10:52:35 PM »
Milestone has moved to Unreal Engine. Even with the resources they have they didn't manage to make a good game (MXGP3) that still lacks a lot of potential. Even if Unreal Engine is not a good material to make a realistic game (from what I was reading in the internet). I have seen an interview with Michaele Caletti a dev from Milestone who is lead developer of Milestone new game Gravel. He said that they are learning the Unreal Engine and will implement other things in future... BUT! Look at the history of MotoGP games, they don't feel any pressure as Milestone is monopolist on the motorcycle market. Even BigBen Interactive won't be a threat with their IoM TT game. A friend of mine who has modded the code of Milestone games told me that there is a big mess in the game code. It only shows the attitiude of Milestone to their products. Copy and paste and dont test b4 the release. Thats why I have asked DD if Dorna treat software seriously and do they know the problems with MotoGP games. I say they are not good for serious racing because of the bugs, glitches and unstable multiplayer.  They just can't do things properly and here is the door wide open for GP Bikes. I really don't belive that Milestone will make anything good.
SO... there is a potential for GP Bikes as this game is developed without any time pressure or stupid deadlines. Milestone is a company: "release, sell and dont care". I think that in current form the esport championship is without any sense bcs time trial in arcade game that is as buggy as this one is stupid. There is no opponent pressure where you can make mistake or collisions or even if there are few bugs in the Milestone games that if U know them U can make insane times.
I keep fingers crossed for GP-Bikes which gives me that little feeling of motorcycle riding when the weather is bad and I can't ride in real life.
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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2017, 07:47:16 AM »
@Max

I did talk about GPB having being physics based, a real bike simulator in all the aspects it has including tyre deformation and dynamic track etc etc I just did not list it all in the video which I should have.

This is still a WIP for try and sell them on GPB and I will NOT give up, I am a determined lil shit when it comes to getting my way lol.

This is just the begining guys and a good one.

Coen Brothers??? Piboso I hope thats a good thing lol

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« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2017, 08:55:06 AM »

Thank you for your efforts to promote GP Bikes.

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« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2017, 09:32:16 AM »
It is a pleasure to try Mr P

I know how hard it is even if you have the best product out there it is the marketing and funds that you need to make it work that hold you back.

YOU have given us a brilliant product and made it possible to build such a community, the least we can do is support you.

I am only just starting this endevour and will do my utmost to get both my systems and GPB to the world as best as I can.

My family moto is "To Try is Enough" so I will just keep trying lol

Thank you for the recognition of the communities efforts.

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« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2017, 09:47:52 AM »
Since you got a pass for a couple of hours, does that mean after the demo they removed you from the site? You were not allowed to watch any of the racing?  :-\
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« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2017, 09:56:39 AM »
We had Paddock passes for the whole weekend and then they gave us complimentry grandstand tickets for any grandstand friday and saturday and seats for Beckets on sunday.  ;D

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Re: MASSIVE News is coming Guys!
« Reply #178 on: September 04, 2017, 10:34:39 PM »
Hey all,

I missed the stream but thanks DD nice fill-in for everyone.

I spoke in private with Jorge too and I must say he seemed very keen to `improve`Milestone and was keen to hear suggestions and recommendations to give to Milestone (who are brilliant at making games look pretty, just need some realistic physics).

Overall it was a very positive weekend, and now I am in talks with Yamaha UK so continue to watch this space :-)

Thanks for your unbelievable support guys.

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« Reply #179 on: September 05, 2017, 03:22:50 PM »

I spoke in private with Jorge too and I must say he seemed very keen to `improve`Milestone and was keen to hear suggestions and recommendations to give to Milestone (who are brilliant at making games look pretty, just need some realistic physics).

Overall it was a very positive weekend, and now I am in talks with Yamaha UK so continue to watch this space :-)


Wow, just wow... So good to hear that you guys have a fairely good amount of attention from the companies :) Keep it going guys, I am so happy for you :D
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