Author Topic: [Release] Suter MMX500 v. 1.3 (Beta 14)  (Read 7150 times)

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2018, 05:47:15 AM »
The bike needs indeed more power in the game. Most feedback of the riders that actually rode the thing need to constantly move around to keep the front wheel down not having any electronic aids. Being a V4 configuration and a 2 stroke, the bike flickability should be off the chart as well. The Aprilia RSV4 is insane. I can't even imagine that bike! Incredible Machinery.

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2018, 07:06:07 PM »
There's a v6 2 stroke bike running around too on google :)

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2018, 09:28:27 PM »
"4 strokes are 4 grandmothers"....... LOVE IT! Hehe! ;D ;D

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2018, 10:57:22 PM »
Agree with many, engine needs a bit more power, bike should be wheeling on 3rd easily, otherwise I really enjoy this bike. looking forward to the updates.Thank you for your support of this community with quality content IMT.  ;)

I just want to ask if you have riden this bike in real life and can therefore say "it should wheelie in 3rd gear"? Such input needs to be factual and not "how you imagine it should be"

I say this as many critics seem to be from pure imagination and not factual from havin riden this bike.

To help the modders, people should say if they have actually riden the bike in real life and they are not just "I think it should be...."

Not putting anyone down but this is a sim built on facts not what you THINK

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Not talking about what I THINK,  you don't have to go far to know this, anyone who knows how a 2 stroke behaves knows. >>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xrTFQXPGo Also, were the Moto GP bikes here ridden by anyone before being modded for GP Bikes? I'm not the only one saying this bike needs more power read the other comments. 
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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2018, 11:23:07 PM »
The ""power limitation"" was obviously wanted by us, because the mmx500 has been tested in spa francorchamps (Eau Rouge...) Anyway the bike has just a engine map less rude, the power it's right.

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2018, 11:39:55 PM »
I'm referring to the mapping. That's what dictates where you put the power, the bike feels flat in 3rd+ gear. It is a 2 stroke. 
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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2018, 11:45:10 PM »

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2018, 11:52:55 PM »
I'm referring to the mapping. That's what dictates where you put the power, the bike feels flat in 3rd+ gear. It is a 2T.

IIRC most of the 500 GP demigods, mechanics, and engine designers spent countless thousands of hours trying to tame the 500cc two stroke engine to make it more tractable and user friendly. Honda's Big Bang [a concept still in use today in the Desmocedici, the RC213V, the M1, etc., etc., etc] engines of the early 90s and their power valve of 97. Just because it feels flat doesn't mean it isn't accelerating.

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2018, 11:58:19 PM »
You are right uberslug, the bike is plenty fast, but the power delivery is fairly flat, this is not characteristic of this bike is what I meant.

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2018, 12:14:02 AM »
From the articles I have read about the port control valves the intention of the designers was to provide as wide and flat power delivery as possible. This is also the reasoning behind it being 576cc.

"The formerly 56 x 50.5mm engine is stroked 8mm in the interest of making genuine 500cc GP horsepower without having to run sky-high compression, find original $32-a-liter chemistry-set no-lead gasoline or turn a zillion crankshaft-eating rpm (can you say “isopentane, MTBE, toluene, triptane, and iso-octane”?)."

"A Mec-Tronic ECU manages fueling through four unitized EFI throttle bodies atop carbon reed valve intakes. Engine torque curve is broadened at the bottom by the period-correct variable-height exhaust port technology."



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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2018, 12:36:40 AM »
Did you guys watch the video from the actual bike?  This thing wheelies on 4th.  This is what I meant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xrTFQXPGo

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2018, 01:00:39 AM »
Also, the bike is not turning right, it pushes like crazy on the exits. It just wants to keep going straight coming out of corners. Someone suggested using the rear brakes but that will only help with turn in, not with corner exit.
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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2018, 01:08:30 AM »
Did you guys watch the video from the actual bike?  This thing wheelies on 4th.  This is what I meant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xrTFQXPGo

Totally, the dude short shift the bike like hell to keep the front wheel on the tarmac. The bike needs more cojones! It will also add to the funfactor and gameplay!  The power to weight ratio is pretty stupid. I also noticed an issue with the front maybe? It seem that the bike under steer even with a 10mm shim on the rear????? Anybody else noticed that? Rake and trail maybe? :(

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2018, 01:09:51 AM »
^^

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Re: [Release] Suter MMX500
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2018, 01:13:13 AM »
Also, the bike is not turning right, it pushes like crazy on the exits. It just wants to keep going straight coming out of corners.


That guy is right^^^ :)