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Title: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 15, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
This mod is brilliant!! Thanks very much GPB italia lol 8)
handling is mega!! Ran some laps on janaucarre's Aragon and it blew my mind lol   ;D
Thanks to janau for the Aragon update too! Great work man!!
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 16, 2014, 11:26:42 AM
Is there a direct link to the WSS set?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: dude on October 16, 2014, 11:29:28 AM
Yep: http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 16, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
Thanks very much Dude<<<<<double antandra lol
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 16, 2014, 07:14:59 PM
I just dwnloaded bike mod 2.20  ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: ALEale on October 18, 2014, 08:41:14 PM
thanks mate.... very appreciated :D
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: r1rossi on October 18, 2014, 10:39:40 PM
I love everything about the update minus the fact EVERY time im turning around a corner and bringing back up into the straight it falls over.

Front wheel falls out EVERY time, softer front ive tried everything.

Are people using manual lean and or anything else.

Very frustrating for me...


Thanks
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: -aGy- on October 19, 2014, 05:48:39 AM


do you mean it start to whobble? is so fast use clutch and its stable again. i use auto rider movement


Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 06:03:34 AM
I, too, motorcycle, lost the front, on every corner, at medium speed, automatic pilot, hard tire, medium,  iréaliste.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 19, 2014, 06:19:50 AM
seems ok for me.. what tracks are you riding?

dont know if this will help but this is my setup for hockenheimring/yamaha R6.

Suspension.
Front..
spring - 22
bump - 7
rebound - 6
preload - 7
oil - 99

Rear..
spring - 95
bump - 6
rebound - 6
preload - 4

Rake - 24.3
Swing arm
     pivot - 1
     length - 2

Engine braking - 1

Sprockets - 16/43

tyre pressure - F 18.9
                        R 18.1

medium tyres.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: r1rossi on October 19, 2014, 12:25:49 PM
 :'( All tracks, Its not a wobble, it is when the bike is coming through the corner and i am going to start exiting the turn, the front tire
falls out from under the bike.

a low side every time.

as if the bike is leaning to far over now

I was trying it on aragon , mugello , SPA v1 , and Catalunya
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: PeterV on October 19, 2014, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: r1rossi on October 19, 2014, 12:25:49 PM
:'( All tracks, Its not a wobble, it is when the bike is coming through the corner and i am going to start exiting the turn, the front tire
falls out from under the bike.

a low side every time.

as if the bike is leaning to far over now

I was trying it on aragon , mugello , SPA v1 , and Catalunya

Adapt youre riding style i would say, let it roll through the corners dont go on the gas when turned in.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 12:30:24 PM
slip down from front tyre?  it is not rear?

this mod bikes have suquat geometry, cause throttle open more carefuly at turn exit.

so not easy to throttle wide open.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Daniel_F on October 19, 2014, 12:33:08 PM
i cant see my wss 600 insgame bikes... i placed the folders of the bikes in bikes folder all the others apper there but not wss 600
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Toomes1 on October 19, 2014, 12:42:42 PM
Try scrolling down in bike section
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Daniel_F on October 19, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
y that made it... i feel stupid :D
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
general behavior mod 600,to rebuild , tire heats to 130 degrees Fahrenheit :o
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: skerp on October 19, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
Use different settings, it is important! each circuit is different, and requires a setting perfect.a sometimes you have to harden , sometimes you have to softeners, this is called realism.racke steering, pressure, length arm..are very important guys! try try .e expect b6 ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
Quote from: r1rossi on October 18, 2014, 10:39:40 PM
I love everything about the update minus the fact EVERY time im turning around a corner and bringing back up into the straight it falls over.

Front wheel falls out EVERY time, softer front ive tried everything.

Are people using manual lean and or anything else.

Very frustrating for me...


Thanks
:o
I can manage more laps quietly, and I feel that this mod finally has a realistic dynamic behavior of the tires. Drifts, braking, is very realistic and hard to go over the limit.Maybe you need more training on gpbikes?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
general behavior mod 600,to rebuild , tire heats to 130 degrees Fahrenheit :o

on wich tyres?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
Quote from: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
general behavior mod 600,to rebuild , tire heats to 130 degrees Fahrenheit :o

on wich tyres?

tyres soft/medium too hot, too many slides.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
@ALEale: Hi, I seem WSSmod bike's front sprocket position is maybe incollect.


it's missing? or anything meaningful?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
115 for me,but only on the stresssed shoulder, should be normal,slides is ok for me. the soft maybe last a little 'little
thx
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
@ALEale: Hi, I seem WSSmod bike's front sprocket position is maybe incollect.


it's missing? or anything meaningful?
Please, Incorrect is not the right word. Need for rear mono to work better, at the moment. And however, there is a tiny gap.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
115 for me,but only on the stresssed shoulder, should be normal,slides is ok for me. the soft maybe last a little 'little
thx


As I've said a billion times, the soft are useful only for the qualification, so those who use more than 3-4 laps, are a bit ...'silly.  :)
Temperatures will be resolved in b6, the slides resulting from overdone temperatures also. But the natural slides, and the rest of the tires dynamic is ok.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 03:55:51 PM
I apologizes for choice not good word. sorry.

hm.I got it. this geometry and suquat force have some meaning.

thanks for answering.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 04:00:18 PM
Quote from: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 03:55:51 PM
I apologizes for choice not good word. sorry.

hm.I got it. this geometry and suquat force have some meaning.

thanks for answering.

No problem ;) apart from the small gap of srpcket, the rest is correct, trail, fork offset, swing arm length and wheelbase (on track), forks height, are on real data.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 04:09:15 PM
wow. it's great.
I think,maybe, F sprckt is little, very litle higher. is it cause squat force? or that force cause little different dynamic physics simuation...?

anyway, I like this mod, model is beautiful. If it wishes for more I want Shifting light... ;)

I hope you keep up good work.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
115 for me,but only on the stresssed shoulder, should be normal,slides is ok for me. the soft maybe last a little 'little
thx


As I've said a billion times, the soft are useful only for the qualification, so those who use more than 3-4 laps, are a bit ...'silly.  :)
Temperatures will be resolved in b6, the slides resulting from overdone temperatures also. But the natural slides, and the rest of the tires dynamic is ok.

sure i know Odi!!I Know!but i mean maybe that could last a few more laps?
I mean,i love this bikes I wish I could do more laps on the same tire in qualifying!?
That said, thank you M8 for this AMAZING work. The sensations are amazing on the track. :)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
the surface temperature of ideal operating tire is 75 ° c,for the next 600 mod,think about it....
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 04:09:15 PM
wow. it's great.
I think,maybe, F sprckt is little, very litle higher. is it cause squat force? or that force cause little different dynamic physics simuation...?

anyway, I like this mod, model is beautiful. If it wishes for more I want Shifting light... ;)

I hope you keep up good work.

yes Yohji, raise the front sprocket allows to the mono to be more crushed in some circumstances, like a motorcycle more close to "road" version (it's possible to see even in SBK behaviour, really...). Was required because the default values ​​of gpbikes b5 made ​​it all very "flat", but with the b6 I think it will be different ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Yohji on October 19, 2014, 04:32:33 PM
thanks for description
so...I hope b6 is more, more great simulation, ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 19, 2014, 04:37:18 PM
Quote from: FastFreddy on October 19, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
sure i know Odi!!I Know!but i mean maybe that could last a few more laps?
I mean,i love this bikes I wish I could do more laps on the same tire in qualifying!?
That said, thank you M8 for this AMAZING work. The sensations are amazing on the track. :)

Uhmm... Ok, I'll try...  :)

However thx to all for the support and the enthusiastic comments.... of course, in any "great step" is normal to have small bugs inside :)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
the surface temperature of ideal operating tire is 75 ° c,for the next 600 mod,think about it....


??  tyres during stress can reach high temperatures... where you read that ideal operating temperature for the tires is 75°C??


Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
the surface temperature of ideal operating tire is 75 ° c,for the next 600 mod,think about it....


??  tyres during stress can reach high temperatures... where you read that ideal operating temperature for the tires is 75°C??


not stress, optimum temperature, stress are different, different rubber for high temperature system ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 05:35:14 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: ALEale on October 19, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Quote from: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
the surface temperature of ideal operating tire is 75 ° c,for the next 600 mod,think about it....


??  tyres during stress can reach high temperatures... where you read that ideal operating temperature for the tires is 75°C??


not stress, optimum temperature, stress are different, different rubber for high temperature system ;)



please answer to my question ;) where do you read that ideal operating temperature for the tires is 75°C??
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: yoshimura on October 19, 2014, 06:18:23 PM
in the paddock, pilots, manufacturing,ect, temperature, on rubber, chemical formula changes mostly level, resistance to long run, so the manufacturer is working hard to keep a constant temperature, which is ideal.

ps:sorry, I just changed the meaning of the sentence, google translation has distorted my thinking. :-\
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: r1rossi on October 20, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
After speaking with a few people and testing the CBR600 lots, i managed to get it alot better.

I am managing some pretty fast times on jerez now for me.

As I said before , I love every part of it but the front falls quiet easy if not careful during turn.


I was not complaining about the update by any means, just wanted help/

Thanks
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: skerp on October 20, 2014, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: r1rossi on October 20, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
After speaking with a few people and testing the CBR600 lots, i managed to get it alot better.

I am managing some pretty fast times on jerez now for me.

As I said before , I love every part of it but the front falls quiet easy if not careful during turn.


I was not complaining about the update by any means, just wanted help/

Thanks

Thanks! you did well to expose us your opinion and your doubts, even ours are tips to help you. ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: r1rossi on October 20, 2014, 03:43:10 PM
I think that is key about a forum , Not telling people you suck and stop playing or your inexperienced, But merely to help anyone out.

Its an on going process of updates and fixes , if I don't say anything  It would be a poor experience for me.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 22, 2014, 06:52:34 AM
visual tyre wear  ;)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: matty0l215 on October 30, 2014, 11:48:36 PM
What's happened to the Daytona?!?! Have they mixed the sounds up?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 31, 2014, 10:25:55 AM
haha not tried daytona yet.. i have to say though the 600 feels great!! front end is planted
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Hawk on October 31, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on October 31, 2014, 10:25:55 AM
haha not tried daytona yet.. i have to say though the 600 feels great!! front end is planted

Maybe when the other MOD bikes come back online for beta 6c they too will handle better than the default bikes? This will be an interesting test.  ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Klax75 on October 31, 2014, 06:01:43 PM
The other MOD bikes are all based off the default bikes of there class. The Italian bikes are the only ones that have there own physics per bike.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Hawk on October 31, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on October 31, 2014, 06:01:43 PM
The other MOD bikes are all based off the default bikes of there class. The Italian bikes are the only ones that have there own physics per bike.

I've just been testing the R6 on beta 6c and it's just like it was before... a brilliant little bike indeed! Well done you guys!! ;D ;D
Can't wait for tomorrows Bike MOD update, then I can go online.

I already tried going online with the GPB italia WSS600 server but I'm getting a data mismatch, so don't know if they have updated the wss bike set from what is on their WSS Bikeset download link? But I couldn't get in.  :(

Hawk.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 31, 2014, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on October 31, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on October 31, 2014, 06:01:43 PM
The other MOD bikes are all based off the default bikes of there class. The Italian bikes are the only ones that have there own physics per bike.

I've just been testing the R6 on beta 6c and it's just like it was before... a brilliant little bike indeed! Well done you guys!! ;D ;D
Can't wait for tomorrows Bike MOD update, then I can go online.

I already tried going online with the GPB italia WSS600 server but I'm getting a data mismatch, so don't know if they have updated the wss bike set from what is on their WSS Bikeset download link? But I couldn't get in.  :(

Hawk.

Uhmmm... maybe you need to download the new version for beta6c?

sorry for the absence but I am very busy on the italian forum...

all the updates you can always track them on our fbpage anyway  :)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Hawk on October 31, 2014, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: _oDi_ on October 31, 2014, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on October 31, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on October 31, 2014, 06:01:43 PM
The other MOD bikes are all based off the default bikes of there class. The Italian bikes are the only ones that have there own physics per bike.

I've just been testing the R6 on beta 6c and it's just like it was before... a brilliant little bike indeed! Well done you guys!! ;D ;D
Can't wait for tomorrows Bike MOD update, then I can go online.

I already tried going online with the GPB italia WSS600 server but I'm getting a data mismatch, so don't know if they have updated the wss bike set from what is on their WSS Bikeset download link? But I couldn't get in.  :(

Hawk.

Uhmmm... maybe you need to download the new version for beta6c?

sorry for the absence but I am very busy on the italian forum...

all the updates you can always track them on our fbpage anyway  :)

Thanks oDi... will do mate.  ;)

Hawk.



Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Hawk on October 31, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Just downloaded the latest WSS Bike set Beta 6c and I'm still getting a data mismatch on the GPBItalia WSS600 Aragon 0.85_NDS server. There must be something on that server that I haven't got?  :)

Anyone else getting this or am I alone with this?

Hawk.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: malve on October 31, 2014, 07:47:55 PM
You aren´t alone.
Same here on 6c.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: _oDi_ on October 31, 2014, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on October 31, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Just downloaded the latest WSS Bike set Beta 6c and I'm still getting a data mismatch on the GPBItalia WSS600 Aragon 0.85_NDS server. There must be something on that server that I haven't got?  :)

Anyone else getting this or am I alone with this?

Hawk.

oh... wait.. you right , our server is not updated yet...  ::)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: malve on October 31, 2014, 07:52:36 PM
Ah ok. Gogogo :)
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Hawk on October 31, 2014, 07:58:41 PM
I am useful for some things. Hehe ;D 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: r1rossi on March 02, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Does anyone know if this will be updates?
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: Dixxturbia on March 02, 2016, 08:57:15 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on October 15, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
This mod is brilliant!! Thanks very much GPB italia lol 8)
handling is mega!! Ran some laps on janaucarre's Aragon and it blew my mind lol   ;D
Thanks to janau for the Aragon update too! Great work man!!
Can you give me the URL or them pleas. Ty
Title: Re: WSS 600 Bikeset..
Post by: matty0l215 on March 02, 2016, 09:13:46 PM
Quote from: Dixxturbia on March 02, 2016, 08:57:15 PM
Can you give me the URL or them pleas. Ty

This bike set is not currently available, sorry