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Poll
Question: Which value of Direct Lean do you use ? (check in into the in-game settings, input 1 page)
Option 1: Between 0% and 24% votes: 17
Option 2: Between 25% and 49% votes: 2
Option 3: Between 50% and 74% votes: 2
Option 4: Between 75% and 100% votes: 11
Title: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: HornetMaX on April 07, 2015, 11:46:08 AM
Out of curioisty.

MaX.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Boerenlater on April 07, 2015, 12:06:16 PM
50%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Warlock on April 07, 2015, 01:16:44 PM
15%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Hawk on April 07, 2015, 01:23:31 PM
To me 100% feels natural to what I want the bike to do, like in real life.

No direct lean is like your on a bike coming into a corner and want to lean and the bike does nothing for a split second and even when it starts to lean it leans very sluggish. I'd compare no direct lean like flying a 747 when what you really want is the performance of an F22 fighter jet(100% lean).
I defy anyone to go through a quick chicane were you have to flick the bike very quickly one way then the other and make it successfully at speed with direct lean at 0%.  :P

Roll on proper bike controllers so we can finally have good control of bikes! Come on DD we're waiting! Hehe  :P ;D

Hawk.
PS: I use a joystick now because it's the only controller I have with the square shaped stick stop(equal better precise control)
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 07, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
H if you realized the stress I got now, dude I just wanna sleep! Ive had a roof leak since 20th Jan and landlords workers are shit. Beds leaning against the wall and sleepin on the couch(NOT sleeping lol) and deliveries for tools and parts every day I am trapped here............HELP! lol

Trying my best to get all done but the Malaysian University is a priority and now the buggers to fly me out there to work with them!WTF?

I am doing my best, it will be worth it it the end but doing me head in.

DD
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: chikailija on April 07, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
10%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 07, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
Oh poo I forgot to say 100%............................why would you want less? lol

DD
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Hawk on April 07, 2015, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on April 07, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
H if you realized the stress I got now, dude I just wanna sleep! Ive had a roof leak since 20th Jan and landlords workers are shit. Beds leaning against the wall and sleepin on the couch(NOT sleeping lol) and deliveries for tools and parts every day I am trapped here............HELP! lol

Trying my best to get all done but the Malaysian University is a priority and now the buggers to fly me out there to work with them!WTF?

I am doing my best, it will be worth it it the end but doing me head in.

DD

Yeah... It's a long and painful road getting a product to market, and at times it can feel like your just constantly banging your head against a brick wall and getting nowhere. Bloody-minded persistence mate and you'll get there in the end.  ;) 8) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: JJS209 on April 07, 2015, 04:22:02 PM
5% - 10%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Kerazo on April 07, 2015, 06:44:39 PM
0%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: nuovaic on April 07, 2015, 06:56:07 PM
11%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 07, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
At first 15% but now 34%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Docfumi on April 07, 2015, 08:00:37 PM
10%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Jose Reina on April 07, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
20%
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Klax75 on April 07, 2015, 10:33:24 PM
Mine is set to 0% but with DST it doesn't seem to do anything.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: HornetMaX on April 09, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on April 07, 2015, 10:33:24 PM
Mine is set to 0% but with DST it doesn't seem to do anything.
Well it shouldn't do anything, so that's normal to me. Only non-DS should be affected.

MaX.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: CapeDoctor on May 23, 2015, 08:13:30 PM
20% works good for me (keyboard, for now, lol)  :)
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: Vini on May 24, 2015, 01:35:30 AM
I have 100% but it feels like 0% because of some issue.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: CapeDoctor on July 31, 2015, 06:37:33 AM
i have since discovered that i can get much better performance out of a bike by adjusting the direct lean for individual tracks - it all depends how twisty/flowing the track is, but i'm finding that where on one track i like it at about 50%, on another track it works much better at 10%.
anyone else found that tweaking it for individual tracks makes a difference?
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 31, 2015, 06:52:59 AM
I'm not sure it's a good idea to change it that much from one track to the other: direct lean is something that your brain gets accustomed to (at whichever level you like it). So changing it may just be confusing and make you lose that all precious sensitivity you get over time (and that you you lose as soon as you stop playing for 1 week).

MaX.
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: CapeDoctor on July 31, 2015, 08:15:26 AM
i agree, it is very confusing doing it this way, but i get much better results, much quicker, doing it this way.
anyway, it's still an ongoing experiment -
let me use the track i am currently trying as an example - Suzuka NDS - prior to this track, i was using direct lean at 20% across the board, but when i tried this track, i found that i was constantly having to adjust my lean mid-corner, which results in a kind of 'up and down' wobbling, and of course the instability that goes with it - i lean a little, and want to just bring it up a millimeter, and on 20% setting, that was impossible - the rider/bike would sit up too much each time, resulting in really bad corner speed and worse stability.
then i dialled the lean down to 10%, and immediately had the exact response/behavior i was looking for. no more having to make constant mid-corner lean adjustments.
well, that's an example, but as i said, still experimenting across the board with settings - i've only been in this game for not quite 3 months now, so still finding my feet compared to most of the older hands around ;)
Title: Re: Direct lean - what value do you use ?
Post by: HornetMaX on July 31, 2015, 08:27:56 AM
Direct Lean is a funky animal, it boils down to personal preference: some like it low, some like it high (for me it's high). But from what you're saying in your suzuka example, I can only conclude you're being not delicate enough with the lean input so when using higher direct lean you have too much bike reaction.

That's the very thing that is tricky with direct lean: if you start with low levels of direct lean, it encourages you to be not so gentle on the lean input (especially to pick the bike up). Of course when you move to higher direct lean, you find this to work badly.

But the opposite is also true: if you start with higher direct lean it encourages you to be very gentle with the sticks. Of course when you move to lower levels of direct lean, you find this to work badly.

That's why I say that your brain gets accustomed to a given level of direct lean.

MaX.