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If i'd be a bad boy (which i am) i would say, it's another good way (reason ?) for Microsoft to push us to Windows 10... Cuz they gonna claim and do as Windows 7 and 8.1 goes slower but not Windows 10...

All updates blocked since last week and if i install some, it will be "by hands", not through the regular WU. And anyway, 7 or 8.1 are old enough to be mature system, only Windows 10 is a "Constant Beta in Progress" but, since i'm a good boy (  ) i love Microsoft for Windows 10, i'm an IT guy, and that Windows 10 gives me a lot of work but...at my clients places !

Seriously, before Meltdown or Spectre creates a problem on my own computers .... Reminds me of the year 2000 bug, what a fool stuff that was.

Beautiful work !! 

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Hi !

So tonight after seing the IMT Mugello server on Suter MMX i couldn't resist and went on the server. Alone but still, i couldn't resist, i have to admit doc' 

And i even did a little video to celebrate  . I want to try what OBS would give with GP Bikes.
I need to go back to setup because the image downscaled from 1440 to 1080 is crappy. That's the word.
But, i had to do it and i'll post it (5 mn Third person and C).
On other software way more heavy than GP Bikes i had better result, need to find where is the issue from.

And because good things never comes alone (kidding) , i killed my controller... now i have to go back to Joystick... Somebody gives me a rope pls
And actually, "his death" is filmed since it happened during this very video. I can't wait to received DD's parts...
On this video, no helps except clutch and no rear bake 

Thanks again IMT for the bike, Manu and Julien113 for the Moto 2 2017 part (Fabio) without forgetting Hawk for the circuit !!

https://www.youtube.com/v/57yuI6YzbYM

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thanks (copying it for next...)

Hi !

And thanks IMT for that MMX mod. 
Love it as DD says (actually, it's him who pushed me this afternoon to give it a try and he was right) 

It's hard on braking, went on my favorite track (NC - Mugello) and even if i have a poor controller, at least i can compare to the other bikes i did used and i really like it. Love the 2 stroke anyway so i'm not objective.
Didn't felt harder out the curves than the other ones but at the same time, with what i'm using to "ride" the bike, i'm not having good references. So, just my 2 cents but thanks again IMT great jobs, the Rothmans livery is awesome. 

If i had something to say, it will be about two point( not essential ) :
1. the pit limiter is not implemented at least, it doesn' work for me
2. when inside view but not helmet view, i have my shoulders getting on the way to look at corners.

Keep up !!

Hi DD,

so here are different links.



https://www.shop-racing.com/kit-pression-frein-tony-zanardi-crg-aim,fr,4,SR_SHO_110.cfm

The kit they selling it for 199€ at this place but i keep looking for that until i find the brand, the type, the pressure... and for this one kit the transductor is a Variohm one, probably EPT9100 series (see the pdf link) and this Variohm society is in England....

https://www.variohm.com/index.php

https://www.variohm.com/images/datasheets/EPT9100_Pressure_Sensor_1704_J.pdf

I found the equivalent made by a Swiss company sold in France by Serv'instrumentation ( http://www.servinstrumentation.fr/ ). I called and for a EPT9100 at 100 bar with female connector instead of male (easier for me to adapt since i was thinking of using a piece of durit), the price was around 150€ so almost the same as the Variohm one (O to 5V DC and working with 5V, a lot of them doesn't work properly under 24V)

Another one from a motorcycling racing company that sells product for the AIM or 2D devices.
(nice dashboard tho...)

http://tech-solutions.fr/boutique/sample-product/capteur-de-pression-frein-aim/


About parts and work for me, we need to Skype or Ts whenever you want Preacher !! 

speedfr

Edit : update wth Variohm "Racing Department" where they actually produce for the racing environment. But as well, i guess they double the prices...

Here --> https://www.variohm.com/pressrelease/detail.php?aid=46&did=Variohm%E2%80%99s-EPT3100-pressure-transducers-are-used-in-Ginetta-G50-series-race-cars

So it actually be a EPT3100 series (up to 4000 bar  )

https://www.variohm.com/images/datasheets/EPT3100_Pressure_Sensor_1608_T.pdf

https://www.variohm.com/applications/list.php?aid=6&did=Motorsports

Hi !

Searching for what value to use, on karting pro or for racing data reporting, they use 100 bar transudcer so that makes 1450 psi. I guess they take a little extra in case but that seems to be the "average" when i went to look for that kind of stuff. Adding the fact that when real brakes works, they get hot and so the pressure as artificial raise but still, 100 bar seems sturdy enough.

speedfr

Happy New Year everybody 

Whish you all the best, health in first and great time on GP Bikes !

But let's go to bed first 

Lucky you !!!!

You finally got it, beautiful video, great system, can't wait to be side by side on the track, so frustrating, i'll be there, it's coming ! 

Obrigado Paulo !!!

Funny...

But the second part should be rated X or -18 years old cuz it's really ...how can I say that.... i mean it should be hidden 

Well, i guess that's the "season" so Merry Christmas and good family times to all of you.


One of my gift to my second son was a GPB licence and he is thrilled.

Have the best times everybody.

speedfr

Hello,

it's interesting and always good to have basis but will be "more" interesting if you post your lap replay no ?

Beautiful The Freak (c'est chic ?  ) !!!

That reminds me that i had my own bike on GP500 with my #40... Do you think the templates - i probably still have them on my disk - will be "transportable" to GP Bikes
Did you do your bikeset by yourself ? Or did you pay somebody thousands of Escudos (!!) to do it ?

Nice update and progress !!!

Obrigado ! 

Yes, what DD uses is the simpliest.
No movement, just the reading of the pressure, no hose (tube?) no pads, no heavy stuff, simple and direct. Just need to be linked to LEoBodnar controller and ready to go.
Really simple and efficent, and  a real brake feeling. That will be great.

On car sim, the guys are using a lot of loadcell now, but it's a single brake, on a foot. Which is easy to make and link but on the handlebar, on the front brake, it will need cable and complex system to go press or push the load cell. Ubersulg system is great but heavy and complex, and probably not good enough to be sold as a finished product.

I even have seen a guy stealing the gauge of his wife balance to make a load cell braking system. It works great. But not appliable for hand braking.

That changes from the usual pitbabes !!!

[(real lever+master cyl + hose + pressure sensor and a cap)]

Perfect and thanks to both of you, i can understand a lot better now what you guys was saying.

And yes, the feeling won't be the same, but the esssential is to have the end of braking that feel the same, i mean you know when you press hard and harder that you brake harder. Anyway, the feeling comes from practice in the game.

And @Ubersulg, if i well understand what you did, you are actually braking on a regular system except the disk is changed by a loadcell and then you push the pads on the loadcell when you brake, am i right ?

(to be honest, that what i was thinking of doing at first, keeping a real brake from my Husky or coming from a wreck place, and brake as natural using a potentiometer for the measure of distance).

I wrote a mail to BRD to know what they use for this braking measure, they claim to use regular braking stuff in their simulator, we will see their answer.

in case somebody wants to get to them, its in UK (they makes simulator using Kunos Simulazioni software - Assetto Corsa)-->

BallRacing Developments Limited
Unit 12 Lawson Hunt Industrial Park
Broadbridge Heath, Nr Horsham
West Sussex
RH12 3JR
UK
Tel: +44 (0) 870 777 5757
Fax: +44 (0) 870 777 5858
Email: info@brdsim.com



(preparing Round 3 picture....  )


Edit :

@HornetMax :

that's the point, if he uses transductor its to get pressure on the hand as a real brake, so the feeling would be the same.

Yeah but the point of the discussion with uberslug and h106frp was that they seems to think (if I understood them correctly) that a simple setup like dd's (real lever+master cyl + hose + pressure sensor and a cap) will not results in something that feels like the real thing (for reasons like initial displacement or others). Just trying to understand, dd is anyway already testing

We are saying the same thing, however, I am taking into consideration the physical limit to the amount of pressure that can be exerted on the brake pads.

In dd's case: whatever breaks/bulges/leaks first, the master cylinder, the hose or the pressure sensor

I may be wrong, but, it looks like the transducer is screwed directly into either the end of the master cylinder or a coupling of some sort. I do not see any length of hose between the transducer and the master cylinder. This is why I am writing that the system is truly dead headed as there are no components that provide any expansion.

That's exactly what i meant, there's no tube that could "take" some of the pressure gain (even if we don't want it, that's why we use Avionics tube (still don't have the good terms, sorry) so it wouldn't grow during braking and absord parts of the pressure. But here the pressure goes directly to the head of the transductor.

Example of "Durit Aviation" to have a better reliable braking : https://www.bst-moto.com/durite-aviation-rub_fr_237.html