Hello riders,
Hengelo is an IRRC Track and i love road races, more than anything else. Thats why this track in the netherlands is my first test in trackmodding and -editing.
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cheers
jan
Niiice JJ!
Good luck with learning that track mod stuff - I also love the road races but they scare me too much>
I cannot wait to try it!
dowload it and lets make some laps now ;) server is online.
€: maybe ill update later with a raceable *.rdf file. lets wait and see ???
Damn saw this too late but next time JJ!
Great track JJS209, Sau Geil Oida! ;D
Good job nice track keep up the good work! :D
Good work JJ, I'll try it later :)
Great work mate!
Good to see more road racing tracks ;D
Hengelo_V0.9 Download (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.9.rar) (more terrain and objects, but a problem now with the first straight and some other grafical issues)
This is a really nice track!! ;D
Couple of things that i've found, on the first straight (leading up to the 6th corner when spawning to track from pit) it's very bumpy. Otherwise very smooth track
And the lack of distance marks makes it hard to find a good breaking point and know where to put the bike.
ill do the track from zero again, starting with the GPS coordinates.
with the expierence i got until now from coming so far with Hengelo, there are too many thinks that i would now do in another and more exact way.
just for your information.
Quote from: JJS209 on June 05, 2015, 05:54:29 PM
ill do the track from zero again, starting with the GPS coordinates.
Why?? its a really nice track (apart from the bumpy bit :P ) or would you find it easier to start again?
JJ nice man thanx for the Hengelo street track ..track is close from where i life so ..lets see if i reconise it
JJ just did a testrun and i have to say it looks good ..only one prob ..there are no hills on the real track ..its al flat ;D
I know man, thats why i started again with the track. Now it will be flat :)
Funny Track, thanks
actual status ::)
(http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/images/WiP_Hengel0_v20.jpg)
Looking good Jan! ;)
Hawk.
(http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/images/WiP_Hengel0_v20_2.jpg)
Great track mate nice one! 8) maybe you the guy to complete the Ulster gp???? ;) ;D 8) 8)
And the Northwest 200 :)
Come on JJ! ;)
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Great track mate nice one! 8) maybe you the guy to complete the Ulster gp???? ;) ;D 8) 8)
If anyone has the 3D scene, I would be happy to redo it once Termas de Rio Hondo is finished :)
Quote from: RiccoChicco on June 07, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Great track mate nice one! 8) maybe you the guy to complete the Ulster gp???? ;) ;D 8) 8)
If anyone has the 3D scene, I would be happy to redo it once Termas de Rio Hondo is finished :)
Don't often hear good news on a monday morning ;) ;D
That's mega Ricco! 8) hope somebody can help you with that.. Argentina sound cool too! Good stuff ;)
Quote from: RiccoChicco on June 07, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Great track mate nice one! 8) maybe you the guy to complete the Ulster gp???? ;) ;D 8) 8)
If anyone has the 3D scene, I would be happy to redo it once Termas de Rio Hondo is finished :)
I was hoping there would be a version of the source files in the 3D Max Track database, but unfortunately there isn't. Sorry Ricco. ;)
Hawk.
Yep I already checked ;D
I have the original rFactor track, but its 3D - gmt files - is encrypted (first time I get it) and all methods to decrypt it failed :(
if you want jan i can go next weekend to take pictures of the road and suroundings ? or capture it on film .. its a 45 min drive for me from where i live
(http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/images/WiP_Hengel0_v21.jpg)
Quote from: GhostdogNL on June 08, 2015, 12:42:25 PM
if you want jan i can go next weekend to take pictures of the road and suroundings ? or capture it on film .. its a 45 min drive for me from where i live
that is really a nice offer from you mate!
i am not that good at creating objects until now,
but i think it would be very helpful to have pictures from all four viewdirections of especially the "strange" building at the start with the tower in it and
the pitbuilding or what it is in real.
if its no trouble to you ghostdog taking pictures would be great. but then i am in a situation of "obligation to provide" ???
no prob at all .. i will look if its posibole to go this weekend ..otherwise it wil be ..in the next week .. but i i play this sim now for more than a year sow ..its also for my own bennefits if i go up there and help out
hello guys,
we have an update to V0.93 of the track with corrected surface and some better arranged objects and terrain.
a lot of thanks go to janaucarre for his support and corrections of my fails ;)
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Nice one JJ I will try it soon. Remember to keep a copy of the .map file before adding Dynamic surface so NDS versions can be made if needed. (Just learnt that from Hawky lol). ;)
i lost my btb projectfolder, dont know really why that happend. my windows was doing strange things past few weeks and yesterday it starts randomly deleting files, so i reinstalled it today.
so from know on its only working in 3ds max and i have learn how to do that... but i got my mate janaucarre who is really helping me more than a lot with everything around that trackbuilding stuff.
Quote from: JJS209 on June 16, 2015, 11:05:08 PM
i lost my btb projectfolder, dont know really why that happend. my windows was doing strange things past few weeks and yesterday it starts randomly deleting files, so i reinstalled it today.
Sorry to hear that.
And a few days ago I think I had the very same problem (lost all my .ini and .amb files in my GPB tracks) ... weird ...
MaX.
new version is about to come :-)
NDS and DS version
very nice track, where it will be some bike's crash, i'm sure, but nice crash :-)
The manager in charge of Owners Club Road Racing over at Mallory is very interested in this - I could hardly keep him quiet about it these last few days! No idea what he has planned.....
8)
Quotenew version is about to come :-)
NDS and DS version
Good news indeed ;D
Quote from: janaucarre on June 17, 2015, 08:52:11 AM
new version is about to come :-)
NDS and DS version
very nice track, where it will be some bike's crash, i'm sure, but nice crash :-)
Great news guys.... As soon as you release the DS and NDS versions I will include them in the "track Downloads" Database.
Thanks JJ and Janau! ;D 8)
Hawk.
https://www.youtube.com/v/j_aXGTcUq0k
Lookin good JJ!
anyone have an idea if i need to save the trp file in trackED after i made the marshals as like the merge thing with the centerline or is the marshals.cfg file enough to have them?
new camerafile as attachment
marshal cfg is enough
Hengelo_V0.94 with 24 pits,24 starting grids and a spectator camera.
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Thanx mate nice job 8)
https://www.youtube.com/v/GpHkA2SHdbw
Looking good :)
But racing on that track will cause massive crashs between riders...based on the collision spheres in GPB.
Right now touching anothers bike will lead to a direct crash in most cases...and touches on that small track will be more often i suppose. ;)
Don´t misunderstand me...i like road tracks :D
Hey JJ looking realy great mate ! iam sorry still didnt had time to go to the track for pictures ..but big posibility after this weekend ..i will try to get some pictures of the road with the tree line .. whitout getting a ticket becouse i know ..youre not aloud to drive over there with a car ore bike
[WiP] Hengelo_V0.95
- will add some more brakingpoints (small white line)
- add shaders and 3D grass (hopefully a better appearance of the track and terrain)
- not sure about adding more objects now (difficult for me in 3ds max)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 release:
- added more brakingpoints (small white line)
- added shaders and 3D grass
- added marshalls
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95_NDS.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 3ds Max files for Hawk (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95 3ds Max files.rar)
(no update scheduled in the next time)
Sweet JJ well done !
Awesome work especially for an NDS version too. Hopefully I can come test soon.
I will update the race server ASAP.
Thank you
nice! 8)
i was trying out the previous version, and just noticed this new one...will grab it now, and test it asap! very enjoyable so far, although the addition of some braking points will be good, which i see the new version has - i suffered some extreme overshoots before, riding around in the countryside with the cows, lol :D
Quote from: JJS209 on July 03, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 release:
- added more brakingpoints (small white line)
- added shaders and 3D grass
- added marshalls
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95_NDS.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95 3ds Max files for Hawk (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95 3ds Max files.rar)
(no update scheduled in the next time)
I'll update the track downloads database with your new versions and store the 3ds source files for you.
Nice job JJ! Thank you! ;D 8)
Hawk.
there seems to be a problem when u use the track without vsync.
it could be the 3d grass or the shaders of the terrain.
Quote from: JJS209 on July 03, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
there seems to be a problem when u use the track without vsync.
it could be the 3d grass or the shaders of the terrain.
I presume you are going to be fixing and updating the tracks again very soon then? I'm thinking to delay updating the track database with above versions till they are fixed? What do you think JJ?
Hawk
yea u should delay it. i am looking for a solution
Quote from: JJS209 on July 03, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
yea u should delay it. i am looking for a solution
Okay JJ. Will do that. ;)
Thanks for letting me know so fast, saved me a lot of work. Appreciated mate! ;) 8)
I haven't a clue what could be causing that problem.... Hope Piboso can solve this for you.
Hawk.
All that is happening is frame rates are dropping from (mine) 166 to about 14 in just two areas of the track.
Maybe someone can help if they have seen this before?
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 03, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
All that is happening is frame rates are dropping from (mine) 166 to about 14 in just two areas of the track.
Maybe someone can help if they have seen this before?
Is this happening on both versions, or just the Dynamic Track Surface version?
Hawk.
yea on both
Quote from: JJS209 on July 03, 2015, 08:12:04 PM
yea on both
I'll have a quick look at the source files and see if I can see anything amiss. Though I suspect it's probably down to the shader and 3d grass files.... give them a thorough checking out JJ. ;)
I'll post here when I've checked the source files out. :)
Hawk.
It would help me in checking things out if you could tell me which parts of the track are causing problems?
Hawk.
I turned all shaders, AA, reflections, 3D grass etc off in game and it didn't help (if that helps lol)
At the chicane,
and after the house after the 90deg tight right
Here are my bike at the two worst places.
The second is not so bad as the first for FPS.
Hopefully the blue map helps to locate my position
Thanks Nick... I can pinpoint those positions.
Good idea with those pics to pinpoint the problem areas Nick! Nice one! ;D
Hawk.
exporting a b-version without shaders and 3d grass now, see if it helps. will put a link here as soon as it is ready to test it.
i usually run with 3D grass turned off.. seems to help with my pc anyway..
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 03, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
i usually run with 3D grass turned off.. seems to help with my pc anyway..
but u have had not a framedrop like nick?
me personal has also not such a framedrop, but when i put vsync off the framerate is at 80-100 but it feels not smooth.
yes I turned everything off it helped but only for about 10fps still not rideable
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95b_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95b_NDS.rar) please test it, especially nick.
cant unpack it says files are broken :-[
Did you make all the trees and other trackside objects collidable? That could be the problem? Only make collidable what is absolutely required to do so.
I cannot load the source files into Maya, it keeps crashing so I cannot take a look at it. That in itself is very unusual. What version of Max are you using JJ?
Hawk.
now dowload works? something is totaly wrong here...
3ds max 2010 32bit
now I have it - I go test locally
The frame rate seems better in the normally good place - up from 166-200.
But in those two positions still really bad. Maybe 2nd position is a bit better.
Below is chicane area
If I sit bike in that area FPS can drop to 0/1. As soon as I leave back up 160+
Oh and went back on V0.94 no problems ???
ok, i found some things and will do another testexport
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95c_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95c_NDS.rar) next test...
OK mate I am still not in bed I try it now ;)
in bed... tomorrow is saturday ;) gpb!!! all what counts!!
hahaha yes !
Unfortunately the report is :( still the same.
the good news is all this testing makes my lap times better :)
cant understand this...
Don't know what to suggest.
not an immediate problem anyway we have V0.94 for the race if need be. We know the race session is OK. Flags still show even without marshalls.
Here is a vid of me riding slowly (the wrong way on the chicane) so you can see the FPS changes if that helps:
https://www.youtube.com/v/o8nJca9_Uwg&feature=youtu.be
PS: Don't worry about the sudden view movements that's a function of Corner Anticipation and going the wrong way.
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 03, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
Flags still show even without marshalls.
just need to copy the marshalls.cfg outta V0.95. thats all for the flagmans
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95d_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95d_NDS.rar) hopefully that one?!
Quote from: JJS209 on July 03, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
now dowload works? something is totaly wrong here...
3ds max 2010 32bit
I have 3ds Max 2010 too; I use it for exporting max files to Maya. So that's not the problem
But the Hengelo source file is still crashing when exported from max to Maya for some reason(never had that before other than when exporting from a later version of max) so unfortunately there is not a lot I can do to help by looking at the source files. :(
So I'm presuming the V0.94 works okay without any frame drops? It's just V0.95 that drops frames badly at certain sections?
I'm just wondering if it's because every object in the scene is set to be collidable? But then I'm presuming it was same for V0.94 too? So I don't think that can be the problem? Though it's not as optimised as it could be by doing it that way.
The only other thing I can suggest trying, is to take out all the shader and 3d grass text files, also the groove file from the track folder and then test it again. If that makes the difference you'll know were the problem lies. ;)
Hawk.
last version is with the the imagefiles of 0.94. hope that helps, when not ill start from 0.94 again. wont be a problem, just takes time.
i learn with every mistake i make, need to test more with other riders/hardware/configs, i think.
95d is perfect for me... anybody else??
what are the changes in comparison with V0.95c you?
about to test Vd. BRB
V0.95d works same as V0.94 to me. Just fine! ;)
Can't say in comparison to other versions, I was busy trying to get the source files loaded in Maya without crashing. :)
Hawk.
before i had a little bit of screen tare.. now, nothing.. seems perfect!
Try deleting some porn off your hdd to free up some space ;D
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 03, 2015, 10:57:46 PM
before i had a little bit of screen tare.. now, nothing.. seems perfect!
Try deleting some porn off your hdd to free up some space ;D
good news.
bob the problem is, which one i delete or NOT. they are all special in their way :(
hahaha lol.
Well for me the problem is reduced a bit with d but not gone. If I go through those areas really fast the problem is less of course.
But I loaded 0.94 back up and there is no fps drop whatsoever so something is different. I will put V0.95d on the server. Maybe no-one else will see the problem too and we can say it is my problem (but didn't you say you saw it too JJ?). :-\
strange one :-\
can i try a dynamic surface version too?
wait before you put something new on the server. ill have the V0.95d with some shaders and 3D grass in exporting.
seems that the problem is only such heavily at your configuration or does anyone else have the same strong problems in that areas as nick has them?
for me personal there are no problems on the pointed out zones, just a little bit low fps without vsync enabled but its fixed for me with V0.94 like for bob, i think.
€ just wait a few second bob
ok guys,
this V0.95f is the same version of the track as V0.95d with the changes that i added shaders to tarmac, cones, strawballs and
put 3D grass on terrain.
works it like V0.95d bob,nick, hawk and all others?
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95f (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95f.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.95f_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.95f_NDS.rar)
Downloading now.
I just tried d with Vsync set, graphics changes, resolution changes and every change I can do but always the same. But no problems with V0.94 whaaaa! :'( Never had this on any track before.
f next .....
Same for me on both JJ :( :'(
sorry mate, dont know what i could try anymore.
ill ask janaucarre to take a look on it, if he finds time for that.
yeah f is all good for me.. strange one nick :( i have all versions installed except v0.94 try that..
V0.94 works fine for me lol.
Next time you are out, enable the in-game Framerate ticker (CTRL-F) and drive that bit of the chicane slowly like my vid - no Frame drops at all?
My open ended question will be why do I not see it in V0.94, and why only me?
JJ - Should I put "F" on the server for people to test?
Edit - tomorrow now I have just seen time and must sleep! Night night!
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 04, 2015, 12:08:20 AM
V0.94 works fine for me lol.
Next time you are out, enable the in-game Framerate ticker (CTRL-F) and drive that bit of the chicane slowly like my vid - no Frame drops at all?
My open ended question will be why do I not see it in V0.94, and why only me?
JJ - Should I put "F" on the server for people to test?
Edit - tomorrow now I have just seen time and must sleep! Night night!
i've always the in-game frame rate ticker active and for me there are no framedrops on the hole track (with and without vsync).
its your decision with the trackversion, u are our captain! ;)
didnt know about the frame rate counter lol cheers! it stays around 85-90 first half of the track then up to 100-110
vsync? is that the ''fullscreen'' tick box?
its there:
i've still only been using 0.94, with no noticeable frame drops at all, and am holding back on a newer version until the frame issues have been resolved.
having said that, i'll download the F version just for comparison tests, anyway.
i think me and nick figured out were these frameproblems he got came from.
i decreased the size of some texture files after V0.94 and now i used the untouched imagefiles and nick has no problems anymore.
just wanted to let u know that.
for the record... JJ figured it all out I just ran lots of laps hehe - well done JJ looking forward to V0.96 - The RACE IS ON version!
Great to see you've got it all sorted guys! ;D 8)
@Nick: Any chance you can put me in as a wildcard? Not sure I'll be able to make it, but I like the track and would like to take part if I can make it. Thanks. ;)
Hawk.
PS: I'll try the same bike your using Nick..... Never ridden it before but you seem to ride it well enough so.... ;D
finaly a non-problem version for our captain ;)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.96 (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.96.rar)
IRRC Hengelo_V0.96_NDS (http://www.gp-bikes.de/team-germany/tracks/Hengelo/Hengelo_V0.96_NDS.rar)