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NAME              No. 1. Napalm Nick      #68 2. Blackheart         #22 3. Meyer12           #12 4. vin97                #8 5. HEZIO               #3 6. Yan24               #98 7. Patrick              #23 8. Teeds               #70 9. Matty                #61 10. finpower          #56 11. Rodrigo Garcia #32 12. maLve             #87 13. Madbutnotbad  #49 14. Jester              #55 15. Kerazxo           #94 16. GuiGui             #14 17. Doc1               #4    18.(WC7) -aGy-      #83 19.(WC6) R1rossi   #34 20.(WC5) 21.(WC4) 22.(WC3) 23.(WC2) 24.(WC1) Wildcard 1: Hawk_UK        #7 Wildcard 2: Gzehoo           #92 Wildcard 3: Boerenlater     #36 Wildcard 4: BoBR6 84        #84 Wildcard 5: Toomes           #71 Wildcard 6: CapeDoctor      #47 Wildcard 7: Supertaranta/-aGy-/R1rossi

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GPBOC 1 | GP10 Cup | Race X Server up and updating to Best Laps Server (cloudy filter) for Practice.

add me as wildcard please :)

I'd like to take a wildcard - to avoid a situation that I'm not participating in all races.

BTW. shouldn't Suzuki GSV-R counted as GP800 machine? It's currently counted as GP1000 bike.

I don't know about the GSVR.  ::)

Gonna have a 25 strong Wildcard list here hehe.

im in

Hezio and Yan24 in

I'm also in #23 as usual.

I'm up for this -

teeds #70

BTW dunno how to skin, and got no time to learn. Anyone mind if I'm the one with the standard bike?

Wildcard plz. Not sure if I can attend all races.

Quote from: Patrick on July 14, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
BTW dunno how to skin, and got no time to learn. Anyone mind if I'm the one with the standard bike?

It will take you 1 hour to learn it Pat, just put the GF down for a bit.  ;)

I don't care if you use standard if there are not so many but maybe you look at the 4 or so paints already available in the BikeMod area - some nice Casey Stoner ones there.  8)

wildcard pls

finpower # 56

Haha there will be more wildcards than full time racers! :D

Yeh lol people are being nice because they are worried they might miss some races, which is admirable indeed.

I expect everyone will get on the starting grid anyway. 24 regulars is still a bit hopeful  :)

PS: All wildcards will be able to accumulate points in the normal way (Club way).

Im out for a couple of weeks due to work.. Maybe put me down as wildcard?

#32 - Rodrigo Garcia
Skin to send

GPBOC Server upgrades complete and back on line.

GPBOC1 A1 Ring (Sunday Race Practice)

GPBOC2 Hockenheim (Thursday Test race Practice (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2476.0))

dont know if ill be at the test race, though

No problem.

Nobody will be there if the servers don't come up again! :o

ill use the test (carbon) skin if thats ok

Sure.
That is in the bike mod I'm sure Matty will add it to the skin pack  ;)

Quote from: vin97 on July 17, 2015, 02:20:24 PM
ill use the test (carbon) skin if thats ok

Do you want your  number put on the nose??

well, i have no idea how to do it. a red 8 would be nice but not really necessary imo.

Quote from: vin97 on July 17, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
well, i have no idea how to do it. a red 8 would be nice but not really necessary imo.

Makes it yours mate :P

I'll sort it out for and put it in the Pack for you :)

cool, thank you very much!

I would like to switch from wildcard on fixed grid.
many thanks

sorry guys, just a last minute notice - i have had some surprise visitors from my childhood days today, and we are going to be socialising the whole evening, it seems - so i am not going to be able to join the fun tonight, unfortunately.  :-[
maybe someone will be around for some sort of informal get together tomorrow and i will join, but i can't leave my guests to do online racing, as you will hopefully understand. enjoy it, and i'll see you on the next run!  8)

Quote from: finpower on July 18, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
I would like to switch from wildcard on fixed grid.
many thanks

Cool

Quote from: TheCapeDoctor on July 18, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
sorry guys, just a last minute notice - i have had some surprise visitors .....

No problem Cape enjoy  ;)

At some time CapeDoctor before the next race you want to take part in I will need your GuId please as I cant recover it for some reason (profile).
Ta.

Hi
Can I register please
#55 - Jester

Thanks

You are in buddy please take time to read the club stuff and rules and have a lot of practice  ;)

Quote...before the next race you want to take part in I will need your GuId please as I cant recover it for some reason (profile).

err...GuId? ummm....let me check....
looked in my profile and don't see anything relevant ... what. exactly is that GuID you speak of, mate?

Quote from: TheCapeDoctor on July 18, 2015, 09:35:04 PM

Quote...before the next race you want to take part in I will need your GuId please as I cant recover it for some reason (profile).

err...GuId? ummm....let me check....
looked in my profile and don't see anything relevant ... what. exactly is that GuID you speak of, mate?

Have a look at your in game profile look for GUID.

When you start the game you get a list of options to select:

One of them is PROFILES - click it and under your Nick Name you see a GUID number see.

Failing that tell me what your race nickname is and I can find your GUID another way.

TAR!

ah, okay - my nick is Malone, GUID is .... (edited - wasn't sure if it should it be public like that?  :-X)  8)

Thank you Bugsy  :)

lol, Bugsy is in fact my RL nickname - hence the Malone  ;D

Can you put be in as wildcard

In

I did not know this circuit, it's awesome!  :o

It is perfect for spectacular video  ;D

I agree. This bike is made for this track. Much better than the little HockRing eh?

Fully agree with you Nick!  ;D

Little OT: How do I set the automatic save the replay of the race?

I don't know if you can you must remember to save it after race.

Auto is only for Server I think

Quote from: Toomes1 on July 19, 2015, 08:41:17 AM
Can you put be in as wildcard

Toomes #71

maLve #87

greetz

Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 19, 2015, 09:00:09 AM
I agree. This bike is made for this track.

No.
The GP10 is not suitable for slow speed hairpins (especially not when they are also banked) because the front wheel is still not fixed.

Plus, IMO, A1 ring is one of the most boring tracks ever.
But of course we only have a finite amount of tracks, so it's ok.


BTW, my number is 8.

Valencia next week (Banked Hairpin City!). Woohooo ::) ;D

btw, how about a suzuka race?


...jerez and mugello would also be nice (because they are among the more ridable tracks) but i understand that they may have been slighty overused in the past :D

The unplanned races are partly planned - Misano_NDS and NC- Suzuka_NDS  are on the short-list  :D But we may be at B7 before it gets that far and then it depends if any current bikes/tracks can be used anymore.

ah, then lets hope b7 takes a while because suzuka is one of the most interesting (and also ridable) tracks and i dont think there have been many motogp bike races there.

I tried to run(drive) to Valencia and it is impossible to make a tour without falling. There is many circuit which is more pleasant, because that is going to be a real slaughter.

To be honest I agree it is crap for this bike hahahahaha.

I would like to change it to Suzuka or Misano I will create a poll and ask all members who have signed up to vote

oh yeahhhh :D

scrap that wildcard thing, nick.
i wasnt in a good mood yesterday :D


sometimes the gp10 can be a bitch.....
https://www.youtube.com/v/PmQGtWZOAvQ

Back as a full timer? No rage quitting?  :P

is it still possible to join?

Quote from: kerazxo on July 20, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
is it still possible to join?

No! You're too fast!  ;D  ;D ;D

Quote from: kerazxo on July 20, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
is it still possible to join?

Yes sure and if you would like to go a bit slower to keep the rest of us happy that's fine too ;)

ok then #94.

Is sign-up always open ? if yes , count me in #12

OK - Club rules and ethos apply though. Make sure you like that, if you want it more serious then this is maybe not for everyone.

Please make sure you submit your helmet, leather and bike skins to Matty ASAP HERE (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2456.0). Its been nice to see a grid of skins rather than a grid of boring white.

@GuiGui404 - can you change your number for these race please - Meyer already using 12. You don't have to change any skins just the profile number if you would?.

Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 20, 2015, 03:49:32 PM
@GuiGui404 - can you change your number for these race please - Meyer already using 12. You don't have to change any skins just the profile number if you would?.

#14 would be ok ?

Perfect mate thank you very much.  8)

https://mega.co.nz/#!LF4ERT6A!u25pb3fr2JEqCvdJ7kNX4WTF0rQbdYTDLcW_2Tvn1L8 (https://mega.co.nz/#!LF4ERT6A!u25pb3fr2JEqCvdJ7kNX4WTF0rQbdYTDLcW_2Tvn1L8) skin

Can the following let Matty know what bike skin you are using/going to use (with a link preferably) so he can include it in the Skinpack for all to share, when possible. Thankee!

finpower          #56
maLve             #87
Madbutnotbad  #49
Jester              #55
Hawk_UK     #7
BoBR6 84     #84
Toomes        #71

First Post updated with a new Championship leaderboard (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2471.msg35984#msg35984)

I might not be able to make so many races. back to work and a bit to do there and a lot of other things coming up too..

When stuff is little more calm, i will be back at all races! :D

But for, i will join whatever i have time for :)

Sadly, I don't think that I will be able to make it to the Race today.

I won't race today because after hours of practice I can't do a lap without falling ::)
And my theoretical best is 1.40 which is still 10 seconds off the pace.

Quote from: vin97 on July 23, 2015, 01:46:06 PM
Sadly, I don't think that I will be able to make it to the Race today.

Thanks for letting us know mate.

Quote from: Boerenlater on July 23, 2015, 02:47:29 PM
I won't race today because after hours of practice I can't do a lap without falling ::)
And my theoretical best is 1.40 which is still 10 seconds off the pace.

Well you are still welcome anyway unless you worry for knocking others off.  ;D
I offer a suggestion to practice - ride very slow around until you can get round without a fall, then start to increase the pace a little at a time - don't try to do anything fast, and just keep practicing and getting faster. Its what I do at a new track usually. Still fall a lot but getting better. Hope it helps.

Quote from: Boerenlater on July 23, 2015, 02:47:29 PM
I won't race today because after hours of practice I can't do a lap without falling ::)
And my theoretical best is 1.40 which is still 10 seconds off the pace.

The method suggested by Nick is correct, I looked for some corners and you did not go badly in the first sector, I can advise you to brake, a little earlier, because braking at the limit is difficult then the curve correctly  :P

Can U sign me up Captain :) I want to participate at least this race :D

Ohhhh Yes SuperT is in da house  ;D

Oh. Am I not whitelisted ? alright then :(

me too

Quote from: kerazxo on July 23, 2015, 06:38:50 PM
me too

Quote from: Super Taranta ! on July 23, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Oh. Am I not whitelisted ? alright then :(

Yes you both are hang on I check

Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 23, 2015, 06:40:02 PM

Quote from: kerazxo on July 23, 2015, 06:38:50 PM
me too

Quote from: Super Taranta ! on July 23, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Oh. Am I not whitelisted ? alright then :(

Yes you both are hang on I check

TRY AGAIN PLEASE

I believe that there is a small problem on the waiter(server) of ARAGON the temperatures are 0 ° :o

Wow crazy especially as the Aragon (GPBOC2) server is switched off . Must be someone elses  lol ;D

Excuse I as I saw a server with ARAGON and GP800  :-[

1st Post Leaderboard updated. Well done again Fin I didn't realise!  ;)

1st Post Leaderboard (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2471.msg35984#msg35984) updated. Still holding the lead Fin!  8)

1st Post Leaderboard updated. Still, still holding the lead Fin!  8)

OMG! I discovered the reason my drop frame ... in gpbikes.ini, long ago, I had tested the maximum of bike_reflections, forgetting to resetting the value!  :'(

I had completely forgotten about it! Now I fixed  ;D

You are a genius  8) well done

1st Post Leaderboard updated. Still, still holding the lead Fin!  8)

1st Post updated - Calendar REMOVED - ALL Championship races will be held on SUNDAY only from now on.

Other mid-week events will be introduced in time.

Remember to bookmark the WHAT'S ON THIS WEEK POST (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2376.0)

1st Post Leaderboard updated. (Did it earlier but forgot to post it somehow ???) The lead has changed!  :o

Hey people, if i can sort out the problems with my controller, the game and a few other things, i might be here for racing tomorrow or at SPA!

Long time no see and i have missed the racing!!! And of course the fellowship in the Owners Club!

Would be great to see you Meyer you are a good man  ;)

However, with the main PiBoSo servers down in a bad way maybe there is no rush hehe. See you soon I hope.

Aha! that was maybe a reason why i couldn't find any servers earlier and just got connection timeout when i tried :D

But i  hope to be back together with the servers soon! :)

can i join up with you guys 4 the last few races ?

doc1 #4

Yes Sir! You are in. See you tomorrow  :)

please ensure you understand the start procedure and what causes jump starts/disqualifications and all the other stuff like rules and racing ethos. Cheers m8. More info here http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2332.0

wildcard pls

-aGy- # 83

In. Thanks.

im out too wierd tcs behavior

shame  :(

1st Post Leaderboard (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2471.msg35984#msg35984) updated. Fin is back in the lead!  8)

I would love to race in Race 8 if available.

R1rossi :)

Sure, please let me know your race number - different to those already on list please  ;)

Race # is 34

Does anyone have the template so I an attempt to create my own skin lol

Also, is the newest version of the Gp9 available to use in the race?

Thanks,

Paint has its own topic: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2475.0

GP9 not in this championship sorry.

Bloody hell its quiet round here.

So Race 8 at Spa tomorrow, Race 9 at Suzuka next week and what NDS track do you want for the final race - Race 10?

Open for your suggestions. Think big tracks that will suit the GP10.

I'll try to make it but i cant commit just yet (helping family move house so not sure how late im getting back :-\ )

Pre 2002 Hockenheim.

Quote from: Boerenlater on August 22, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
Pre 2002 Hockenheim.

You mean "Hockenhiem 79" ?
Haha!! I've just been testing that to see if it works well, and it does! So I'd be all for "Hockenhiem 79". It's a track that tends to get forgotten for some reason, but it's a very fast track and works well with the GP10.  ;)

I'll create an NDS version before the race if you want to use this track Nick?  ;)

Great minds think alike Borenlater!  ;D 8)

Hawk.

Quote from: Boerenlater on August 22, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
Pre 2002 Hockenheim.

+1

Very nicely proportioned track. It actually feels like a real track in size :)

Quote from: Hawk UK on August 22, 2015, 09:18:29 PM

Quote from: Boerenlater on August 22, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
Pre 2002 Hockenheim.

You mean "Hockenhiem 79" ?
Haha!! I've just been testing that to see if it works well, and it does! So I'd be all for "Hockenhiem 79". It's a track that tends to get forgotten for some reason, but it's a very fast track and works well with the GP10.  ;)

I'll create an NDS version before the race if you want to use this track Nick?  ;)

Great minds think alike Borenlater!  ;D 8)

Hawk.

The one with the chicanes ;) not the 79 version.

Quote from: Boerenlater on August 22, 2015, 09:46:47 PM

Quote from: Hawk UK on August 22, 2015, 09:18:29 PM

Quote from: Boerenlater on August 22, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
Pre 2002 Hockenheim.

You mean "Hockenhiem 79" ?
Haha!! I've just been testing that to see if it works well, and it does! So I'd be all for "Hockenhiem 79". It's a track that tends to get forgotten for some reason, but it's a very fast track and works well with the GP10.  ;)

I'll create an NDS version before the race if you want to use this track Nick?  ;)

Great minds think alike Borenlater!  ;D 8)

Hawk.

The one with the chicanes ;) not the 79 version.

You mean NC - HockenhiemRing?  :-\

Hawk.

Good evening driver.
As I know now, I have finished the championship on the podium.
Congratulations to all the riders and jan for winning the championship.
I now make a break through B7 as is.
was really fun and I thank Nick for all the work to organize such a championship.
see you again later.

Greeting fin

Quote from: finpower on August 23, 2015, 09:25:50 PM
Good evening driver.
As I know now, I have finished the championship on the podium.
Congratulations to all the riders and jan for winning the championship.
I now make a break through B7 as is.
was really fun and I thank Nick for all the work to organize such a championship.
see you again later.

Greeting fin

Still one more round to go yet, isn't there?  :o :)

Hawk.

Officially two more rounds - Suzuka next week and the member voted-for Hockenheim (should the version be decided).

However, I am more than happy to end it now if that is what people want. There is little interest in the races, the game, the development or the forum as far as I can see. No point flogging a dead horse for the sake of it.

Let me know  :-\

Quote from: Napalm Nick on August 23, 2015, 09:43:45 PM
Officially two more rounds - Suzuka next week and the member voted-for Hockenheim (should the version be decided).

However, I am more than happy to end it now if that is what people want. There is little interest in the races, the game, the development or the forum as far as I can see. No point flogging a dead horse for the sake of it.

Let me know  :-\

Noo!! I want to race but i've to busy  :-[ i need another podium ;D

Quote from: Napalm Nick on August 23, 2015, 09:43:45 PM
Officially two more rounds - Suzuka next week and the member voted-for Hockenheim (should the version be decided).

However, I am more than happy to end it now if that is what people want. There is little interest in the races, the game, the development or the forum as far as I can see. No point flogging a dead horse for the sake of it.

Let me know  :-\

Objectively the GP10 it's fun to make some fast laps but less so in the long races.

In fact I enjoyed it so much more in the event with the fz6 that in all championship races ...

P.S. Maybe a event in Cadwell Park with fz6?  ;D

Personally speaking I think there are two issues affecting participation at this time:

• Riders don't particularly enjoy riding the GP10 bike in it's current state of development. It's frustrating to ride and promotes the dreaded rage quitters, and it's physics are obviously still a work in progress and not particularly stable in my opinion.
  
  
• More importantly, I think at the moment there is a big disappointment and subsequent  back-lash from Piboso's decision to put GPB Beta 7 onto the backburner in favour of continuing the development of the next MXB Beta for whatever personal reasons he has for doing that, even though it's now been the best part of 1 year since the last GPB update.
  I think now the overwhelming feeling is: "Is Piboso going to ever finish anything that he starts?, Or is he just going to continually start fresh projects and end up never finishing anything at all?" Those of us that have been around for a long time are beginning to see a pattern evolving and we don't like what we see..... It's a well known Indie Developers disease in my opinion. It's just a real shame Piboso doesn't seem to realise just what he has here in GPB if only he'd either get it into a marketable state, or actually get on and finish it..... I mean who'd want to buy a car with no wheels and a promise to fit them as soon as possible?  ::) :P
  

There is a glimmer of light in the fact that Piboso has greenlighted KRP on steam. Hopefully that will generate a large amount of finance for him to be able to set-to and get his current projects completed. I genuinely wish Piboso all the best of luck with that.  ;) 8)

But as far as I'm concerned Nick, I definitely want to continue participating in future events and the current champs.... In future, in my opinion, it would probably be better to stick with bikes that are known to be good, stable and enjoyable to ride, though personally I prefer to ride road racing bikes in race events rather than gimmick fun bike events; this is why I bought GPB to ride road race bikes in races and events,  not Scooters, not street bikes or half MX/road bikes, etc, etc..... If I wanted to do that I'd buy an arcade game for that kind of fun and games.  :P  :)

Also I think in future, anyone who signs up for championships should genuinely aim to finish all elements to the championships(including actually finishing races and not rage quitting.  :P ), and anyone who decides not to compete in a championship round should then be automatically dropped from the whole championship no matter what the excuse.

Above all and finally, I'd like to say that Nick is doing an absolute BRILLIANT job in organising these events! Without Nick this forum would be virtually dead in the water right now, and I think we all should be very thankful that we have Nick here organising events and contributing enormously in keeping the enthusiasm going for GPB especially under the present circumstances.... Job extremely well done Nick!  ;D 8)

Hawk.

+1

a dead cow can no longer be milked.
which is GP800 is simply impassable for most drivers.
maybe you should choose a motorcycle that for most riders is also driving.
that's why I do not understand why you repeatedly selects a motorcycle that does not want the driver or simply impassable .The is also the problem that so many drivers fail and do not participate in the race.
also is not fun.
Why does not a motorcycle that all riders can reasonably frustration without too much.
as I said, I'm also satisfied to go with this cucumber.
perhaps, the server will then be full again.

Greeting fin

Nick, it seems most find this bike a handful and a half, so why not wrap this champ up and start a fresh on a bike that's more user friendly? Maybe SSP600 or Moto2 for instance. Also might I suggest that we have 2 shorter races instead of 1 longer one maybe? Might give more incentive to keep people interested for race 2 and another go at a race per event. I now you like the tyre wearing aspect but maybe hold the odd long event for tyre management skills. Pity we don't have tyre wear acceleration options.

Also not sure how many on here have raced car sims much but one aspect of it I think this game could benefit from is to have servers setup not just for endless practice but lots of short races, it hardly ever seems to happen. In nearly all car sims on-line public servers it is about 10-15 mins practice, a short qually session and then into a 5-10 min race, then rinse and repeat. It can be really popular. This is one thing I've found odd about the GPB on-line racing scene, but I know it's a bit of a pain without the ability to join and wait for the next race during a race, as you can with all car sims I can remember.
The above could make race practice far less of a chore and better prepare people for riding races.

Just my thoughts to make the best of what we have  :)

Quote from: teeds on August 24, 2015, 03:30:04 PM
Maybe SSP600 or Moto2 for instance

2 shorter races instead of 1 longer one maybe?

This sounds like a plan :D

I'd love to have a least one more race on the GP10 (Hock '79  ::) :P)

Quote from: teeds on August 24, 2015, 03:30:04 PM
Nick, it seems most find this bike a handful and a half, so why not wrap this champ up and start a fresh on a bike that's more user friendly? Maybe SSP600 or Moto2 for instance. Also might I suggest that we have 2 shorter races instead of 1 longer one maybe? Might give more incentive to keep people interested for race 2 and another go at a race per event. I now you like the tyre wearing aspect but maybe hold the odd long event for tyre management skills. Pity we don't have tyre wear acceleration options.

Also not sure how many on here have raced car sims much but one aspect of it I think this game could benefit from is to have servers setup not just for endless practice but lots of short races, it hardly ever seems to happen. In nearly all car sims on-line public servers it is about 10-15 mins practice, a short qually session and then into a 5-10 min race, then rinse and repeat. It can be really popular. This is one thing I've found odd about the GPB on-line racing scene, but I know it's a bit of a pain without the ability to join and wait for the next race during a race, as you can with all car sims I can remember.
The above could make race practice far less of a chore and better prepare people for riding races.

Just my thoughts to make the best of what we have  :)

Some very good points there teeds.  ;)

I would also be happy to go along with wrapping up this Champs and starting another with a more stable bike.  But quite willing to continue with the GP800 Champs if you(Nick) decide to do so. ;)

But personally I think that short races promote the hot-lapping race attitude we are trying to wean riders off? A race should be a proper race distance, otherwise it becomes a sprint which in my opinion is not a race at all because it defeats the purpose of real racing which is to use your skills to win a race over a certain distance. It's the difference between running a 100 meter race and a 1500 meter race; yes they are both races but require totally different approaches if you wish to win both or even one for that matter.   ;D
However, having said that I personally would also be happy to have the two race option but instead of both races being short sprint races, have one a long real race distance and the 2nd race the shorter distance sprint race there-by satisfying both points of view. But I really would recommend having the long race the first race to make the shorter race more interesting after the fatigue of riding in the long race first... Evil me! Hehe  ;D

As for the 5-10 min online race server: Great idea, but really don't think it would work right now for the very reasons you point out above in your post. One definitely for the future though I think. Would be great though if it were possible now.  ;D 8)

Definitely all for anything that would help prepare riders to learn to actually race and not treat a race as a hot-lapping competition. But I feel this can only be achieved by riders entering real race distance events.

Just my thoughts.... Would be very interesting to hear others thoughts too.  ;)

Hawk.

What about the BSB race setup?

2 medium length races (14 laps of Silverstone for BSB vs 20 of Moto GP) so maybe 11-12 laps instead of 18 we did the other week.

Just a suggestion :)

Quote from: matty0l215 on August 24, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
What about the BSB race setup?

2 medium length races (14 laps of Silverstone for BSB vs 20 of Moto GP) so maybe 11-12 laps instead of 18 we did the other week.

Just a suggestion :)

BSB race format is a good idea Matty.  ;)

Two medium length races of 14 laps per race would be a good compromise(though the full 18 laps would be better. Hehe  :P ), but any less than 14 laps starts to become a sprint for me personally. Just my thoughts of course.  :P ;D

Can I just ask all who prefer shorter race distances - "What is your reasoning behind wanting shorter race distances?".  At the moment I just don't understand were riders are coming from in wanting shorter race distances(laps). ;)

Hawk.

Hawk, my feelings on race length are much as yours - i prefer a slightly longer/medium length race, otherwise, as you say, it becomes a crazy sprint race.
i'd settle for any race, though, lol - having not made it for any events so far, i will be remedying that soon, and then once i have a decent connection, i hope to be a regular at race events.  8)

I read just a bunch of nonsense ... people being able to finish the last (for luck) race, throws shit about who has renounced, for game bugs, clear as the sun.

Hawk I exchange a race for a hot-lap race? Who has the best times in practice and qualifying is normal to be competitive in the race, this should be easy to understand.

Criticized randomly, without knowing that it was my first rage-quit! And it was perfectly justified.

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Quote from: Hawk UK on August 24, 2015, 08:14:21 AM

Quote from: Blackheart on August 23, 2015, 09:37:28 PM
I suppose you have not seen the replay ... looks like I lose the bike the first time, lost the back under acceleration with TCS to max!
After that I always missed the front, certainly not for my mistakes!
With my race pace, I could easily do the second, walking quietly for the track. Instead it was another race ruined by a bad physics of the front, and also the bike.

P.S. Same thing happened to Nick, what the hell are racing if you can not push to the maximum?

In addition to yan was not counted a lap despite having doubled almost all riders ... there's much to work.

Hi Blackheart.

Yes I have seen the replay(first thing I do after the race. Lol ). I understand were your frustrations are coming from, I saw your falls in the race...

Let's face it, we've all rage quit at some stage in the past(I personally could've easily rage quit after that first fall in the race yesterday when my bike decided to do it's get-up and piss off down the road routine. Lol ), but we all know GPB is a beta and we all understand that there is still work to be done by Piboso to sort out certain issues with the physics, but having said that the GP10 is not a particularly stable bike in my opinion and I think we all know that? Again in my opinion it's more to do with the actual bike physics than a GPB physics problem and consequently this results in real frustrations in rider performance at times.

I certainly agree with you that there is nothing worse than not being able to ride to the max with a bike, but at the same time we all have to deal with the same problems and in a race situation riders should really ride a bike according to it's and the riders ability; after all, if your bike has a puncture you wouldn't go into a corner at the same speed as you would normally expect to if it didn't have a puncture - result would be a crash. So why push an unstable bike to your max in a race when you know you cannot do that without crashing? You may get away with it for one or two laps in a hotlap situation but in a race you cannot ride any bike(stable or not) at 110% all the time or your going to crash out.
I'm sure Jan would agree that to go faster in a race you actually have to ride slower than when your hotlapping(if that makes sense? Lol ). In other words if in a race situation you push too hard then you will actually slow your overall race time down quite considerably although on some laps you may do a great lap time. So if I may say so with no disrespect to you at all because your a good rider, but judging a race distance performance on a hot-lap performance is a total nonsense.  :)

Another thing riders need to consider when they rage quit is that it degrades the whole race for other riders, in that other riders final positions are not a true reflection on the race and there abilities, and the more people who rage quit the less of an actual race the event becomes.
The whole point of a race is testing your ability to ride the bike you have(unstable or not) at the fastest speed over a certain distance and number of laps to the best of your ability. What we don't need is riders displaying tantrums and rage quitting..... I'm sure if that rider was in a real team he wouldn't last very long before his butt was kicked down the road to nowhere. Lol.  ;D

Next time we're on track you can give me the finger if you like. Hehe.  But overall I'm sure you'd agree that for the benefit of virtual racing, "Rage quitting" needs to be frowned upon in a big way?  :)

Hawk.

Quote from: Blackheart on August 24, 2015, 06:05:35 PM
I read just a bunch of nonsense ... people being able to finish the last (for luck) race, throws shit about who has renounced, for game bugs, clear as the sun.

Hawk I exchange a race for a hot-lap race? Who has the best times in practice and qualifying is normal to be competitive in the race, this should be easy to understand.

Criticized randomly, without knowing that it was my first rage-quit! And it was perfectly justified.

I was hoping you'd take my post above as just some friendly advice and sympathy from a fellow rider, but obviously not. I invite you to read my post again(quoted above) fully. I too thought it would be easy to understand.  :P ;)

Hawk.

Remember that English is not my language ... I might have misunderstood, it had seemed a criticism to those who retired from racing.

I repeat, I have not retired absolutely because I was driving badly, I drove like I did in the days of practice and qualifying, but after a series of falls absurd, in my opinion not for my mistakes, I was not enjoying it more.

To clarify there is no problem  ;), it's just frustrating that the development of GP bikes may not proceed as I'd like.

Quote from: Blackheart on August 24, 2015, 07:47:10 PM
Remember that English is not my language ... I might have misunderstood, it had seemed a criticism to those who retired from racing.

I repeat, I have not retired absolutely because I was driving badly, I drove like I did in the days of practice and qualifying, but after a series of falls absurd, in my opinion not for my mistakes, I was not enjoying it more.

To clarify there is no problem  ;), it's just frustrating that the development of GP bikes may not proceed as I'd like.

No problem Blackheart. I understand that misunderstandings are very easy when trying to express things between different cultures and language bases, especially on forums. Lol.  So no worries mate! All is cool!  ;D 8)

I agree, there is a lot of frustration about the pace of GPB development at this time, very understandable.  ;)

Hawk.
PS: Actually I thought your English is very good! Mine probably not so good! Hehe.  ;D

OK I have a lot to read in your posts and comment on here (all my opinions so not worth getting mad at ,sorry it is long):

1. GP800 being a difficult bike to ride - actually I don't think it is that bad for what it is supposed to be emulating - it is the fundamental problem in the game engine that this bike amplifies. To be honest I really like it, it should be difficult to master but it shouldn't randomly fall over!

2. Easier bikes should be chosen - As you know I am not a huge fan of using the same old bikes every time. A lot of work has been put in by the authors for every bike here and I respect that and want to give them 'their time on track'. It is the fundamental problem in the game engine which, when fixed, will make all the bikes ride great I am sure.

3. There is one more round to go in this championship - Suzuka, as chosen a long time ago now so it would be only right to revert to that plan. I was hoping to make it an even 10 rounds but lets blow that off!

4.  Yes rage quitting should be avoided at all costs (unless your sanity is threatened  :-[) just getting to the end will provide a good points haul and, more importantly, experience. While we struggle to get 10 players bringing in more rules is the wrong direction I think.

5. Milking a Dead Cow
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Fin - I chose the GP800 based on what people wanted at the time - "big powerful MotoGP races!" and I didn't know it would be such a cucumber. Please don't suggest I 'always choose bikes that are difficult to ride'. I didn't know this would be so difficult, and to be fair to me, nor did the 25 people who signed up to race or I would of thought someone would mention it.  ;)

6.Race Length - again all the suggestions are great.  These long races were put on because they were asked for specifically (and yes I do like them and the tyre wear we experience and the fact they aren't sprints etc).  Personally I would be very happy to have a short sprint race and a long race on the same night (Short first so people who jump start/get disqualified don't have to hang around a long time for the next race) whether that is feasible is another thing. Or the BSB idea but with that we lose the long race 'fun' but we could have the odd long one thrown in. Hmmmm.

7. Final thought - All ideas and suggestions are wonderful and I would like nothing more than to be able to put on a race with a full grid every night to capture everyone's needs, but we have to face a reality - we have 25 riders signed up to this championship and we struggle to get more than 4 -8 at any events at all.. The effort involved (although I am happy to do it) really does not justify the attendance and is very disappointing after complaints there was not much going on.
When we created this Club it was to support the main championships with more racing opportunities but there has not been one organised at all! Attendance has now dropped off where most people will just come back if when B7 is announced. And I do not blame them one bit - to be honest on black days I want to join them.

Quote from: finpower on August 24, 2015, 08:51:17 AM
as I said, I'm also satisfied to go with this cucumber.
perhaps, the server will then be full again.
Greeting fin

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I try to live by the club motto of "Making the best job with the tools we have" but it is getting more and more difficult without any game changes and, more importantly, just some communication from the developer so we know he has acknowledged the problems and has a plan to fix them (or not , even). I don't think that is a lot to ask.

Bring it all on, endurance, sprint, road, sbk, gp, stk, ssp whatever   ;D  ;D  8) its all good  ;)
Only reason I havnt joined is my working hours clash at the moment.. Probably same for others too! Not just the beta7 news, not all doom n gloom lol ;D

We know beta7 may take a while, we know about the bugs, core.exe's and  physics problems.. But, its still alot of fun especially when u get a good race going  8) ;D

For me personally the best racing iv'e seen and had in GPB is with the 600's  8)

Quote from: BOBR6 84 on August 24, 2015, 11:47:33 PM
Bring it all on, endurance, sprint, road, sbk, gp, stk, ssp whatever   ;D  ;D  8) its all good  ;)
Only reason I havnt joined is my working hours clash at the moment.. Probably same for others too! Not just the beta7 news, not all doom n gloom lol ;D

We know beta7 may take a while, we know about the bugs, core.exe's and  physics problems.. But, its still alot of fun especially when u get a good race going  8) ;D

For me personally the best racing iv'e seen and had in GPB is with the 600's  8)

Damn right! And don't forget it's summer, I heard people go outside in this time, sometimes even in the evening!  ;) I have been on holiday the last 4 weeks, doing real life stuff like riding, traveling, spending time with the family. I think there are some more people doing this.
Don't worry, there will be better times when the weather gets darker and colder ( our Australian friends not included.  8) )
I do like the 800 duc, it was a good decision nick! Doing races on supersports bikes, we can do in reality, just book a track day. Or we all meet some time anywhere.  ;)

Best!

I say I had the most fun with the 250. Especially on that long road course we did.