Before you install Windows 10...

[davidboda46]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/17/windows-10-can-search-for-and-disable-pirated-games?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=3&utm_campaign=Spotlight

Not that I have any on my system... 

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46

[Boerenlater]

  do not believe anything immediately
It's a load of bs

[doubledragoncc]

Sorry to disturb you all but I have had not one problem even without  anything on my system.

DD

[Boerenlater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3h5wwg/windows-10-disabling-pirated-software-not-so-fast/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3hccs4/no-windows-10-cannot-remotely-remove-pirated-games/

[Hawk]

It's in Windows interest to have what they call "Pirated copies" of Windows OS in systems which otherwise would be running Linx or other free OS because the owners cannot afford the price of a Windows OS disk to install. That's why in reality they allow it to go on - In fact it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft put out the original keygens and activators onto the internet to allow it to happen. Of course in public they are going to threaten legal action and say they have ways of stopping pirate copies because the majority of users will then be scared into even attempting to install a pirate copy; that way only those with a needs must attitude will actually do it. As a company boss I would be very happy with that situation knowing that my OS software was going to be installed in most computers in the world, be it pirated or genuine. This is how Bill Gates made his billions right! 

So I'd say don't let these articles fool you. They are just a load of PR BS in my opinion as I'm sure people who have already installed a copy of Windows 10 could testify to 

Hawk.

[davidboda46]

Don't shoot the messenger guys. I just passed on the article. It might be BS, it might not be...  But, I do think it's healthy to have a bit of paranoia when it comes to giant corporations, although I am always more concerned with privacy issues than copyright stuff. Having spent more than ten years as a consumer orientated tech journalist I have come across things that made my jaw drop.

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46

   

[Hawk]

Don't shoot the messenger guys. I just passed on the article. It might be BS, it might not be...  But, I do think it's healthy to have a bit of paranoia when it comes to giant corporations, although I am always more concerned with privacy issues than copyright stuff. Having spent more than ten years as a consumer orientated tech journalist I have come across things that made my jaw drop.

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46

No worries on my part David. I'm not trying to shoot you down mate, just telling it how it is from my point of view.  But as you say, it's healthy to have a bit of paranoia when it comes to big corporations for sure.

Hawk.

[WALKEN]

its interesting to me that people who don't game even run windows at all.  If it wasn't for a few select titles that don't run in OpenGL personally I would be 100 linux only.  I rarely allow my windows machines to connect to the internet.

[Hawk]

its interesting to me that people who don't game even run windows at all.  If it wasn't for a few select titles that don't run in OpenGL personally I would be 100 linux only.  I rarely allow my windows machines to connect to the internet.

Lol.... Now I think that is probably paranoia taken to the extreme my friend. 

99% of all software is Windows based so why wouldn't people want Windows as their main OS, online or offline? Makes perfect sense to me. This is why Microsoft promote openly and underground to get people to install Windows.

How many times do you see and hear on forums asking why this or that piece of software is not available for Linux or Apple Mac yet? The answer is simple - because it's not the mainstream OS out there, and business is business. If you want to make money you got to be in the game and use what is most popular for the genre your creating software for, and Linux, Apple Mac, and OpenGL is not it. 

Personally I'd ask the question: Why do independent developers continue to support Linux and OpenGL with such ferocity when Direct X is obviously the better option right now? Please don't say because of license issues because personally I think that is also BS and it's more a case of bashing Microsoft as many indie developers and Apple Mac users/developers tend to do from what I've seen.

Linux, Apple Mac and OpenGL better than Microsoft Windows or Direct X ?? Get out a here! Lol   

Hawk.

[WALKEN]

I don't consider apple at all, proprietary!

I really have not had any problems with lack of software using Linux.  I have quite a few OS, be it Linux or M$ I use them both... I'm not paranoid about connecting to the internet for reasons maybe your imagining? I stay updated but beyond that I would never use my windows machines to browse.

There is nothing wrong with OpenGL.

The biggest thing to realize is proprietary software controlling you. I like to be in control of my hardware/software.

I think indie developers choose freedom over proprietary. 

Different strokes for different folks         

[Hawk]

I don't consider apple at all, proprietary!

I really have not had any problems with lack of software using Linux.  I have quite a few OS, be it Linux or M$ I use them both... I'm not paranoid about connecting to the internet for reasons maybe your imagining? I stay updated but beyond that I would never use my windows machines to browse.

There is nothing wrong with OpenGL.

The biggest thing to realize is proprietary software controlling you. I like to be in control of my hardware/software.

I think indie developers choose freedom over proprietary. 

Different strokes for different folks         

Proprietary software is proprietary for good reasons - to protect an investment. Are you against protecting an investment? Maybe you think all software should be free to use?

Even indie developers use their own proprietary code to protect their investment. Hypocritical for those indie developers that advocate using non-proprietary software in development and yet use their own propriety software to protect their own code don't you think? 

Personally I think any developer that makes use of non-proprietary software in the development of their own software should not then be allowed to charge money for their finished product.  Then you'd see just how much these developers value so-called freedom! They'd soon switch to using proprietary software! Lol 

Hawk.

[SKD]

Well thats a license issue. Some people use licenses for their software that allow other people to even use it as a part for their own commercial software. If the original developer is okay with this, I don't see any problem.

[Hawk]

Well thats a license issue. Some people use licenses for their software that allow other people to even use it as a part for their own commercial software. If the original developer is okay with this, I don't see any problem.

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm just playing devils advocate here. Lol. In fact I'm all for Open licenses and open source software to a point, but what people have got to understand is that if the trend for all developers and users turns to free license and open source software then, in my opinion, this leads to a bad attitude all around with users and developers expecting everything for free.

We see this bad attitude now in MOD software in particular; I mean modders put a lot of work into modding software and yet users expect them for free, and even mentioning paying a little money for a modded piece of software almost gets a total revolt from users. It's just a good job that the modders do it for the love of it rather than money. 

As far as different Operating Systems are concerned, I just don't understand this almost war like attitude between Linux users and Windows users; another example of bad attitude generated by releasing free software against payed software like windows that is just protecting the investment put into creating it.

Freedom is great to a point, but can easily degenerate into chaos in my opinion, most people are just not capable of handling total freedom sensibly.... Rules and regulations are a must to keep order and justice for the great majority of people, and I think those who advocate total freedom live in a dream world and don't realise just how many malevolent people there are out there just waiting to take advantage of a totally free system. 

I step off my soapbox now. Hehe 

Hawk.