[BIKE] RSA 250 GP

[Vini]

We definitely need a 500 with better tyres.
The NSR is so ridiculously slow in corners even though it weighs less than the 600.
I know that even in 2002 the tyres were not that good but we could just call it call it 'Suter 500' and have at least Moto2 corner speeds.

[_oDi_]

We definitely need a 500 with better tyres.
The NSR is so ridiculously slow in corners even though it weighs less than the 600.
I know that even in 2002 the tyres were not that good but we could just call it call it 'Suter 500' and have at least Moto2 corner speeds.

The current NSR500 is only a Cagiva V594 with make-up ... so the tires are of 1994 

[Klax75]

Jerez:

1'46.173 Moto3 Q 2014
1'43.118 WSS Q 2013
1'42.925 WSS GP Bikes
1'42.766 Moto2 Q 2014
~1'42.000 "RSA 250 GP" GP BIkes
1'38.120 MotoGP Q 2014

Not too fast?

it makes no sense compare with the real actual times, also the Murasama (a Motogp from 2003)  runs  in 1.25 to phillip island.... and the real record is 1.28.108 (and with a 2013 bike...)
however, in 2008 the 250 runs in 1:43 in Jerez 

TISSOT AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
MotoGP Qualifying Nr. 2 Classification 2013

Phillip Island, Saturday, October 19, 2013

Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev. 1 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 337.9 1'27.899 2 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 342.5 1'28.120 0.221 / 0.221 3 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 340.1 1'28.647 0.748 / 0.527 4 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 341.4 1'28.713 0.814 / 0.066 5 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 337.9 1'28.748 0.849 / 0.035 6 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 336.8 1'28.809 0.910 / 0.061 7 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 334.5 1'28.941 1.042 / 0.132 8 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 335.0 1'29.295 1.396 / 0.354 9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 339.5 1'29.660 1.761 / 0.365 10 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 342.2 1'29.756 1.857 / 0.096 11 5 Colin EDWARDS USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 329.9 1'30.264 2.365 / 0.508 12 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Power Electronics Aspar ART 327.2 1'30.735 2.836 / 0.471

Sorry the chat came out weird. I remember Lorezno saying he didn't think that kind of lap time was possible outside playing on the Playstation. This was on the resurfaced Philip Island that was destroying tires. I think tires in GP Bikes in general have way to much grip. Since were are modeled after a 11 year old bike but hitting lap times faster easily then they do in reality.

[Alby46]

they hit 1.31 or something like that in 2003

[Daniel_F]

well i feel a little stupid by only doing 1,41 with the gp bike and 1.42 with 250 (with lots and lots to improve ) on jerez xD i actualy would like to see the 500s with nice tyres aswell like a modern version of the 2 strokes like this 250

[Alby46]

1.42 at jerez is a monster time, i was talking about phillip island times

[Daniel_F]

my mistake not 1.42.  1.43

[Vini]

i actualy would like to see the 500s with nice tyres aswell like a modern version of the 2 strokes like this 250

Yes and we could justify corner speeds higher than those of current Moto2 bikes by making the Suter 500.
.....Ooooor, just edit the current 500 physics file a little bit to allow for higher leaning angles, which would be more than fine with me

[C21]

Thanks for release 
That´s a big surprise returning from holiday and wwoooooaaaaa the 250 Aprilia is on display!
Thank´s a lot. Can´t wait to ride (fight?) the beast 

[_oDi_]

Thanks for release 
That´s a big surprise returning from holiday and wwoooooaaaaa the 250 Aprilia is on display!
Thank´s a lot. Can´t wait to ride (fight?) the beast 

thx C21, yes the baby it is a bit 'nervous

and, you know, you can contact me in p.m. for the more specific technical suggestions (to avoid "controversy" here)

[C21]

I will do i promise 
Will give it a try at the weekend...

[_oDi_]

http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68838016


General debugging of physics
fix rain tyres
version of the bike in the name

[C21]

Thank you :-)

[valentinik46]

thanks

[JC#21]

Thx oDi