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Would setting the dead zone in the controller settings help stop this action? Or setting the controller to not be so linear?

No, nothing will help (Direct Lean ON helps, but I guess you already have it on).
You just have to be gentle with the stick when going from full lean left to right (and right to left too, no political preference here ).

MaX.

I'll give your advice a try and learn to ride a little gentler through chicanes....

Thanks Max, your a real socialist. Hehe

Decryption error Here is what this brand before that worked well since yesterday problem

Sorry, Scapin. I don't really understand what you said here? Except that you maybe getting a "Decryption Error" message from MEGA while trying to download that file?

yesthat's it

I have never come across this error message before and I don't understand why when I tested the download it worked fine and yet you still cannot download?

Are you using firefox.... If so, have you installed the MEGA plugin for firefox?

Decryption error Here is what this brand before that worked well since yesterday problem

Sorry, Scapin. I don't really understand what you said here? Except that you maybe getting a "Decryption Error" message from MEGA while trying to download that file?

Noticed that also.
Happens on all bikes if you are in or near max lean and make a quick change from one to the other direction or if you want to get really fast back out of lean.
E.g. Riding down the straight on Victoria , bashing through the 1st right in full lean and then want to get it upright very fast the bike "freeze" (hard to explain, it´s better to view that in a replay or in a video) for a second and then fell down.

I think this can be explained: when you are full lean right (1st corner on Victoria) and you wan to pick up the bike to go left, the rider turns the handlebar to the right: this will pick up the bike.
If your input is too abrupt, the rider will turn the handlebar to the right too much and/or too quickly, losing the front.

MaX.

Would setting the dead zone in the controller settings help stop this action? Or setting the controller to not be so linear?

Hey Hawk,

the GPB behaviour is correct - while braking in-turn (or going off the gas), the bike will tend to stand up and decrease lean angle... when applying throttle in-turn, the bike you should notice the bike maintaining its line.... and there is no way of changing or "countering" that behaviour. Maybe you remember situations where you were relatively slow or you apllied throttle that made you have the feeling you 'countered' that behaviour...

scientifically, I cannot explain that well - either you google an answer or maybe MaX can explain?

Have to go in 3min, but will explain later. Yes, Stout is correct, GPB is correct.

MaX.

Hi Guys.

@Stout: Thanks for updating my old mind. Hehe

@Max: I will look forward to your in depth scientific explaination when you log back in later.

Thanks guys!

Uploading single ZIP file containers for each bike...be patient 

thanks c21. it works fine now

the Brno gp. circuit

I just downloaded it from my "Track Downloads" MEGA link and it downloaded no problem, downloading @ 1.7Mbs and took about 30 secs if that. I was also using Internet Explorer too which sometimes does not work well with MEGA downloads.

Are you right clicking the file and selecting download as a zip file, or just selecting download?

I right clicked the file and selected download file, as it is already zipped up in a rar file.

The dyno is a bit odd ...
KTM Moto3 puts down more than 50HP and revs beyond 13000rpm 

I did read a post somewhere by one of the Physics modding guys that stated that there is a difference between published BHP and Rear wheel BHP taken from a DYNO? Maybe this is the rear wheel BHP from the DYNO that is stated in the above chart?

@neoraptor:

Brilliant job mate! This sort of material will always be sort after by those wishing to create a mod bike, particularly from scratch.

I wish this sort of material was available for the classic 500cc GP bikes of the 70' and 80's.


Very useful post, nice find, well done mate!


PS: I hope Max or Ricco can copy/paste your post into a Bike Mod Resource section of the forum. Would be very useful info to keep were it can be easily found by those who are looking for this kind of info.

To fix this issue, just re-upload the file as a zip file. Jamoz has had same problems with files on MEGA that are not zips. For some reason zip files download okay, but to try and download loose files as a zip won't work.

Hello we can longer load circuits there is a problem with Mega   

Which track are you having problems downloading from MEGA. If you can let me know I'll test the download myself and report back for you.

Hi guys.

I've noticed something that doesn't seem correct from my experience: When you are leaned over and apply the front brake, the bikes lean angle decreases and therefore the bikes turn rate markedly decreases with it. As far as I can remember this doesn't happen in real life(Though I'm getting on a bit now, and remembering exactly what happened when I used to race is not always clear. Hehe). Don't get me wrong, I know that when you apply front brake on a bike in a turn that the bike wants to lift up, but as I remember, you can easily counter that force to stop it happening during the turn, in GP Bikes it does it and you cannot stop it until you stop apply the front brake. Is this correct?

Can anyone whose had recent real experience racing bikes comment on this action? Thanks

[directsteer_maxtorque=30]

A simple question/s really: I'm just curious as to how much, if ever, the virtual rider has any input in controlling the bike? And if it is the rider that is controlling the bike, then are we actually controlling the bike or the rider? Or maybe a bit of both?

Could be quite a brain teaser this one. Hehe

Unless you have direct steer enabled, http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=28.0 the "lean" control sets the target lean for the bike.
The target lean is scaled by the estimated max lean the bike can reach at that moment.
Then the virtual rider applies a torque to the steer to try to smoothly reach the target lean as quickly as possible.

Hi Piboso.
Tried the direct lean code. It works in the sense that it gives you direct lean capability, but unless you can somehow adjust the settings to allow for more control of the lean via your controller, I cannot see any use for it at all, as when I tried it, it was uncontrollable in the sense that it was near on impossible to get started from a stand still position(But I did just manage it. after much practice. Hehe), and when you do manage to get going the auto rider function is disabled so the rider doesn't shift position with knee out at corners, but most uncontrollable is that the lean rate of the bike doesn't correspond to the operation of your controller inputs even though I've calibrated my controller for movement inputs.

Is there a way to adjust the direct lean settings for more gradual control via the leaning inputs from my controller. I see the factors for the directsteer_maxtorque=30, and directsteer_maxtorque2=0.5 settings, but don't understand what each one does as far as the controller inputs are concerned(Sorry for being such a noob)

Has anyone else tried the direct steer code?

Hi Klax.

Brilliant job, mate..... Appreciated as always.

Thanks my old buddy!!

A simple question/s really: I'm just curious as to how much, if ever, the virtual rider has any input in controlling the bike? And if it is the rider that is controlling the bike, then are we actually controlling the bike or the rider? Or maybe a bit of both?

Could be quite a brain teaser this one. Hehe

Unless you have direct steer enabled, http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=28.0 the "lean" control sets the target lean for the bike.
The target lean is scaled by the estimated max lean the bike can reach at that moment.
Then the virtual rider applies a torque to the steer to try to smoothly reach the target lean as quickly as possible.

Hi Piboso.

This is very interesting and I will try adding the direct lean script code to see how it changes the control when turning.
The reason I asked this question was because I get some very weird responses to my control inputs at times during turns, especially when required to make quick left to right turns as in a chicane. It struck me that it feels as if the virtual rider is trying to control the rate of turn and is getting confused during these quick changes of direction from left to right? The virtual rider looks like he's had a stroke and just picks the bike upright before falling straight over without me making any control inputs to make that happen. It's weird.


Thank you Piboso