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Just want to announce an upcoming mod in the near future. :)
Small Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ81HKsUMME

Content:
FTR
Kalex
Suter
Speed Up
Different paints included.
Own physic.

Please don´t ask for a release date.  :)
Just follow the topic.
We will keep you informed when it´s done! (I´m only a part of the team).

Mouthwatering  8)

Quote from: C21Own physic.

So... it will be completely other physic than current WSS (600)?

That´s what "own" means....
WSS and Moto2 are very different besides the fact the (basic) Honda engine is in use on both.
For example: There will be no quali tyres in Moto2 , tyre size is different in Moto2, less power than WSS,.....

holy shit!!! epic..  8)

And another question: will be there any possibility to see Moto2 bikes also in 1000cc version? (as CRT/Open machines, with the same physic as default 1000cc)

I have to discuss that.
There was the plan to make a CRT (ART Aprilia, and off course NOT with the default 1000cc physic!) in the past but with the new Open regulations it was postponed.
There are no plans yet  :(

Good good good !

MaX.

I'll be looking forward to seeing this finished!

Nice one "C" and team! ;D 8)

Hawk.

Just to know, who are the others on the team ?

MaX.

A..,W...,S....
Why are you interested?
They will be announced at the release.  ;)
Some are working on the sound, some on the 3d stuff and some on the physics.

Just curiosity, always good to know who can do what :)

MaX.

Awesome!

missing the tech3, milwaki  and MZ??

rly nice guys!! :D

I can't wet best mod will ever be :D

Quote from: C21 on June 18, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
A..,W...,S....
They will be announced at the release.  ;)

Dare i say the names ;D ;)

Can't wait ! :)

You should take a glass of wine or pint of beer......due to Beta5 the release will take a bit longer....

ahah take all time you want , the only thing that matters is that this bikemod be out
i really impatient to ride moto2 , thanks for your work :D

It´s not forgiven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSX6SNkkqm0&feature=youtu.be

 :o :P :P :) 8)

Nice Mod!

Thanks for your job!  ;)

Hope the project didn't have stopped  :-\

No, is near to be realeased.

Best News of today :D

So how do you know what to do with the physics? How each bike feels?
Great job anyway.

can't wait to try, the good new of the evening :D

There is also the moto2 Inmotec even if not in the world championship debut in the CEV has made good runs.

Good job!! ;)

(http://static3.motos.es/images/get/5830/800-p/C/noticias/inerzia-inmotec-team-llega-a-jerez-con-nuevo-material.jpg)

Really looking forward to this.

Yeah great news !  :)

any news? im checking everyday for this mod  :P

Good job guys, very good job!!

Link doesn`t seem to work Alone, can you fix this?  ;)

Yes, I´m trying. Thx for report. Dropbox is slooooow  ;D like in 1/2 hour
Thx LoriX

Quote from: JamoZ on November 13, 2014, 10:44:23 PM
Link doesn`t seem to work Alone, can you fix this?  ;)

Remove the first Mediafire bit out of the link and it should fix it

That worked, damn you`re sharp ;)

Yes! removed! thx

Great looking work there CAWS Team! Can't wait to give these a test!  ;D

Thank you guys! ;) 8)

Hawk.

It works, but you have to erase the extra mediafire.com in the url box after the adfly commercial.

congrats and many thx to all the modders that worked on the project.

Brilliant work nice one!  ;D 8)

Can I add these to the next Bike MOD Update?

Hell yeah!!! first laps, just tried the kalex.. the difference to the wss 600s feels spot on to me! (not that iv ridden either of them irl, but feels how id expect the difference to be  ;) ) love the sound too!!! great work guys thanks very much  ;D 8)

Well, I tried Suter (my favourite :) ), Kalex and Motobi/JIR.

And I must admit it was great experience for me. It's not that I'm not a fan of WSS600 but Moto2 was more rideable for me - even without electronics.

Great work guys ;)

Quote from: Gzehoo on November 14, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
Well, I tried Suter (my favourite :) ), Kalex and Motobi/JIR.

And I must admit it was great experience for me. It's not that I'm not a fan of WSS600 but Moto2 was more rideable for me - even without electronics.

Great work guys ;)

Q8!  ;)  I think engine and tyres are the most differents, really good job!!

This is fantastic mod.....10/10 from me ......its a real pleasure to ride this bikes on the limit

Is the Kalex the best bike like it is irl?

@up, it depends on each rider. You should test all bikes ;)

Really good work!

Two small suggestions. The helmet view Dash, the speed is always has the KPH on it, even if you use MPH. So it's a little confusing seeing KPH when your speed is actually being displayed as MPH.

Also the FTR shader seems to be inverted or something. The right side of the bike is always in shadow for me.

Thanks for the positive feedback guys. Now it´s time to rest  ;D  (At least i do so).

Thanks for this new mod :)

Happy to have this good category in this game.

THANK YOU !

great job ;), but I think it lacks a bit of engine power.

the front is fine, it does not answer to anything.

google translation.

Maybe the engines aren't very powerfull compared to real life ?
Top speed seems 10 to 20 km/h slower.

I tested Suter MMXII at Monza and Nismo who joined my server, tested ZX-6R from WSS600.

Top speeds:
Suter Moto2 - 273 km/h
Kawasaki WSS - 291 km/h

BTW. Any chance to see paintable wheels?

I am comparing from this official result : http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2014/AUS/Moto2/FP3/Classification.pdf?v1_4f38c20f (280 to 290km/h)
And on the unofficial stats : http://gp-bikes.motonline-france.com/bestlaps.php (selecting victoria moto2) 260 to 265 km/h

There is a big difference 25km/h

ps : just to help modders... not to make problems ^^

Thank you so much , great job !  ;)

Great work and great fun awaits with this category.  ;)

Thank you very much for this great mod

i think wss bikes are faster for real too.. but moto2 have slicks and a fancy chassis!  ;)

Good job Guys.I think this mod has great potential.The difference with the wss is big because they are really different bikes even in real life:Moto2 have tires with much more grip,and a chassis infinitely better.Like others said,the engines are a bit 'low.
Thx

See my post. Moto2 are 290km/h on Philip island this year. But with this mod it's only 270 km/h.
So engines need more power i think ?

QuoteSo engines need more power i think ?

(a little) more power - yes. Physic is good ;)

Quote from: Alibaskins on November 14, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
See my post. Moto2 are 290km/h on Philip island this year. But with this mod it's only 270 km/h.
So engines need more power i think ?

The WSS highest speed according to results was 279,8 on PI this year. Does the Moto2 aero make that much of a difference despite a less powerful engine?

Good Job Alone! Congratulations to the entire working group ;)

There is a little problem with Tech3 Mistral (in the circle):
(http://www.motonline-france.com/public/Images/Bikesets/Moto2/screen074.jpg)

This 4 lines are moving with the bike when i'm leaning on the left.

There is a bug on Victoria with moto2 bike (tested with tech3 and kalex).
On synthetic grass here :
(http://www.motonline-france.com/public/Images/Bikesets/Moto2/screen075.jpg)

If you touch this green part, the game crash.

ps : tested with an other bike to take a screenshot and valid there are no problem with other mod.

@up, I had today game crash after touching this place :/

But only Moto2.

i think the problem was in the tyres files ;)

OMFG Guys I love you ! :D

Quote from: ALEale on November 14, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
i think the problem was in the tyres files ;)

That's it, the line "artificial turf" is missing!

But great job guys!

Excellent bike mod. Thanks to all for making this happen

Quote from: Toomes1 on November 14, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Excellent bike mod. Thanks to all for making this happen

Could not agree more, excelent job from all involved.
What a difference with the first tests we did. Good job Alone.

Quote from: Mairo on November 14, 2014, 06:27:57 PM

Quote from: ALEale on November 14, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
i think the problem was in the tyres files ;)

That's it, the line "artificial turf" is missing!

Ps
I added the artificial turf entry to all the tyre files of all the bikes and its fine now.

As C21 said, thank you all for your constructive feedback, really happy to read these suggestions and bug´s reports in a good way.

About the bugs, we´ll try to fix them for the december 1st.

Those particles on Mistral! Maybe I need glasses :D . Have to delete them in the rear tyre scene ;) . Also there´s a bug in FTR shaders as Klax told.

The project start with B4, so some new thing, like "artificial turf" was something that we never see  :-[ , but, as Mairo, Ale and Peter said, is simply fixeable. And maybe is a call to see how the core.exe is about, I mean, some missing text between bike´s and track´s stuff ?

I don´t know about the top speed atm. We tried to do this mod with all the real specs that we found, but we´ll check it.

@Klax: never thought about MPH, sorry mate. I´ll change it for "speed" :)

thanks you for this great bikeset guys!

Quote from: PeterV on November 14, 2014, 07:52:08 PM
Ps
I added the artificial turf entry to all the tyre files of all the bikes and its fine now.

what is/does it and where i have to add it?

Quote from: JJS209 on November 14, 2014, 09:02:37 PM
thanks you for this great bikeset guys!

Quote from: PeterV on November 14, 2014, 07:52:08 PM
Ps
I added the artificial turf entry to all the tyre files of all the bikes and its fine now.

what is/does it and where i have to add it?

Here, in every .tyre file

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2liiulv.jpg)

the tyre files are for all moto2 bikes the same? so i can edit one bike and replace all others by copy and paste?

Quote from: JJS209 on November 14, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
the tyre files are for all moto2 bikes the same? so i can edit one bike and replace all others by copy and paste?

Exactly :)

But it would be better if a patched version of the entire moto2 bikeset is published, otherwise one may run into "data mismatch" when online.

MaX.

I cannot complete half a lap without a core.exe

Am I missing something here??

And when selecting tire choice nothing is written on the left side

Same problem for me for tyres.

Could you give us informations about tyres ?

First feeling feels amazing, But I continue to crash .exe .... Is there something wrong here??

Am I the only one?

Quote from: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I have been so bold too update the tyre files with the artificial turf code. Now you can safely ride on tracks with artificial turf.
Just overwrite the original data installed with the ones provided in here.

Moto 2 2013 MOD Tyre update (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycw32e1izq5t0a/Moto%202%202013%20MOD%20Tyre%20update.7z?dl=0)

@ Alone: i hope you dont mind, if you do let me know and i will take it down. (just wanted to see WSS600 against the Moto2 in one server.

Of course I don´t mind Peter!! Even I really apreciate it  ;) Thanks man.

@Alibaskins: I don´t know what kind of info do you want, but if it helps: Front: Dunlop 6813 (med-soft) Dunlop 753 (hard). Rear: Dunlop 3757 adn Dunlop 3854 (soft), Dunlop 3855, 4886 and 919 (medium) Dunlop 3838 (hard)

Quote from: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I have been so bold too update the tyre files with the artificial turf code. Now you can safely ride on tracks with artificial turf.
Just overwrite the original data installed with the ones provided in here.

Moto 2 2013 MOD Tyre update (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycw32e1izq5t0a/Moto%202%202013%20MOD%20Tyre%20update.7z?dl=0)

@ Alone: i hope you dont mind, if you do let me know and i will take it down. (just wanted to see WSS600 against the Moto2 in one server.

You are the man!!

I tried, but the front tire fell through the ground in the menu lol

Quote from: Alone on November 15, 2014, 01:05:59 PM

Quote from: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I have been so bold too update the tyre files with the artificial turf code. Now you can safely ride on tracks with artificial turf.
Just overwrite the original data installed with the ones provided in here.

Moto 2 2013 MOD Tyre update (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycw32e1izq5t0a/Moto%202%202013%20MOD%20Tyre%20update.7z?dl=0)

@ Alone: i hope you dont mind, if you do let me know and i will take it down. (just wanted to see WSS600 against the Moto2 in one server.

Of course I don´t mind Peter!! Even I really apreciate it  ;) Thanks man.

@Alibaskins: I don´t know what kind of info do you want, but if it helps: Front: Dunlop 6813 (med-soft) Dunlop 753 (hard). Rear: Dunlop 3757 adn Dunlop 3854 (soft), Dunlop 3855, 4886 and 919 (medium) Dunlop 3838 (hard)

This is so confusing lol.......why not just call them what they really are?...... i'm not sayin this to you Alone but to Dunlop lol.....what was they thinking ?

Thank you alone !

Yes it would be nice to have the easy name in game ^^

Quote from: r1rossi on November 15, 2014, 01:14:21 PM

Quote from: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I have been so bold too update the tyre files with the artificial turf code. Now you can safely ride on tracks with artificial turf.
Just overwrite the original data installed with the ones provided in here.

Moto 2 2013 MOD Tyre update (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycw32e1izq5t0a/Moto%202%202013%20MOD%20Tyre%20update.7z?dl=0)

@ Alone: i hope you dont mind, if you do let me know and i will take it down. (just wanted to see WSS600 against the Moto2 in one server.

You are the man!!

I tried, but the front tire fell through the ground in the menu lol

LOL has nothing to do with tyre update

Hi, i noticed that on Kalex windshield reflections are missing.
Good job anyway! Thanks.

The Tyres are called what they really are  ;)
BAsed on the 2013 tyres set available for the Moto2 grid.
I could not make all tyres available due to the limit of the tyre amount in GPB.
In Moto2 real life you can choose between 8 different rear tyres  ;D

Quote from: PeterV on November 15, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I have been so bold too update the tyre files with the artificial turf code. Now you can safely ride on tracks with artificial turf.
Just overwrite the original data installed with the ones provided in here.

Moto 2 2013 MOD Tyre update (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycw32e1izq5t0a/Moto%202%202013%20MOD%20Tyre%20update.7z?dl=0)

@ Alone: i hope you dont mind, if you do let me know and i will take it down. (just wanted to see WSS600 against the Moto2 in one server.

Now I get datamismatch when I join a server with moto2.

Quote from: Boerenlater on November 15, 2014, 06:17:31 PM
Now I get datamismatch when I join a server with moto2.

Just as predicted a few messages above ...

MaX.

Hi guys, really enjoying the moto2 bikes so far, They soak it all up no probs.. ;)

Only thing that concerns me a little is that (so far) it seems impossible to loose the rear on the power!
Even using 1st gear, I can make it break traction but it hits the limiter straight away and then straightens up again and away you go to complete the lap..  :D

Apart from that.. Its awesome! Moto2 championship would see some brilliant racing I think with these bikes..  ;)

This mod is just amazing!

Any way to change the wheel color? I tried using a wheels.tga and it won't change :(

december 1st I´ll put the templates (I hope to have the time :) ). In the meantime, you can test with "rim.tga".

QuoteIn the meantime, you can test with "rim.tga".

OK, it works. Thanks ;)

White wheels better :D

(http://s25.postimg.org/8r0yvgrcf/screen044.jpg)

Quote from: Alone on November 20, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
december 1st I´ll put the templates

Great mod here. Really enjoying these bikes. Enough of a challenge to be more fun than frustrating. And they look great to boot.

Just curious how the templates are coming. I'm anxious to get my 'murica on and make myself a PBR bike. Lol.

Thanks man. Welcome to GPB (I raed posts from you in MXS -a loooooot- lol). The "templates" are in the mega page from Klax. I quoted templates cause they are not, just a paint from each one to see where the parts are located.

Cheers

Well at least you are loling after reading my posts.

Thanks for the template tip. I was hoping for fancy layered ones. Will made due with the flats.

BTW. any chance to see Suter and FTR also as MotoGP CRT machines?

Now I probably know how to make skin for Motobi TSR5 :P

(http://s25.postimg.org/xw94aaj1r/screen047.jpg)

Anybody could upload blank skins for Motobi, Moriwaki and Tech 3 bikes? Or even original painting for these bikes?

Quote from: Gzehoo on March 29, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Anybody could upload blank skins for Motobi, Moriwaki and Tech 3 bikes? Or even original painting for these bikes?

chrome://mega/content/secure.html#F!FFp0ELrJ!X_HxLmOBRTi-qqys15jtfw (http://chrome://mega/content/secure.html#F!FFp0ELrJ!X_HxLmOBRTi-qqys15jtfw)

Here's the templates for moto 2, but there's no tech 3

QuoteSee my post. Moto2 are 290km/h on Philip island this year. But with this mod it's only 270 km/h.
So engines need more power i think ?

Just some words on the lack of power.....
Please don´t compare real values to GPB, espacially the vmax of 290km/h. These v/max is mostly reached due to slipstream and not riding alone!
I (can only speak for myself) use the v/max of the riders lap by lap (achieved in qualifiying) and use an average.
For example:
One rider qualified 14 in 2012 -> average speed was 276,8km/h (average of 12 values from 273,7 to 284,4) with one exeption of 291,3km/h when he was slipstreaming.
Another one qualified 31 in 2012 -> average speed was 268,3km/h (average of 14 values from 261,5 to 274,4).
(Do you still believe the TopSpeed is wrong?)
Then i look at the weather information (track and air temp) and try to adjust that in GPB as near as possible.
BUT what i and you don´t know: In which direction was the wind blowing on that particular day when the V/max was stored on the Moto2 Qualifiying event on Ph.Island. in 2012/2013/2014.....
I will not adjust the engine (give more power) only to get the TopSpeed as near as real in 2015.
These bikes are still faster than in real life looking at the lap time!! That is wrong  ;)


Just for your information:
The surface of the Philipp Island track was resurfaced in 2013, so i used the vmax of the 2012 season.
The only difference between 2012 and 2013-15 was the resurfacing of the track, the engine power was still the same. The track had significantly more grip than in 2012.
Who of us can tell how close to real Victoria is compared to the real Philipp Island? (track length, corner radius , sweep,.....)

WSS has definitve more power in real than Moto2 in real. That is a fact.

What i don´t take care of was the better chassis the Moto2 has compared to WSS.
We did some adjustments on the chassis compared to WSS, not more.
In Beta5b there was no option to play and adjust the chassis flex as it is now in 6C and maybe in B7.
The Mod was developed in B5b and should get an update for 6c or 7 to work as expected , or let me say: to work better and more realisticly than now.  ;D
The MOD did not contain different chassis simulation for different bikes. In real life a Suter chassis is flexing different to a Kalex and both are different to a FTR,......

I will test some work on the chassis for B6c but will not release any update on this mod.
MAybe there will be physical update for B7.....but we have to wait what B7 has to offer and how much work is to do to make it better than before.
(The above is also valid for the M3 Bikeset).

Jm2ct
;D

Your feedback is always welcome  :)

thanks a lot for this excellent moto2 bikes!  :) :) :)

Will be updated to B7B.  8)
Including 2013 and both 2014 bikes done by Julien113. Then all Moto2 bikes will be on the "same" level.

But it will take  some time.
1980´s bikes and Moto3 are the first on the list converted to B7B.

Quote from: C21 on November 06, 2015, 01:15:27 PM

1980´s bikes .....

hooray! that's what i really wanted to hear :D