Hi riders :) ,
I did this topic today to ask a little question , maybe there is many answer to my question but i hope you will explain why !
I find the online really desert , before there were many many riders on the servers
Maybe it's cause by the holliday , or maybe the beta5B or maybe other reason that i don't think
don't hesitate too say why you don't play online if u've another reason :)
Thanks for read that :)
For me there are multiple reasons for not being online as much as before.
1. Beta5b does not really add new functionality so there is no reason to keep rediscovering everything. Aside from that there are some new bugs that do not really improve the racing experience.
2. I am really busy with finishing my study so game less than before.
3. Full servers attract people, if they are empty i am less likely to start up gpbikes.
Quote from: guigui404 on July 29, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Maybe it's cause by the holliday , or maybe the beta5B or maybe other reason that i don't think
don't hesitate too say why you don't play online if u've another reason :)
Thanks for read that :)
Those 2 reasons would be it.
Quote from: PeterV on July 29, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: guigui404 on July 29, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Maybe it's cause by the holliday , or maybe the beta5B or maybe other reason that i don't think
don't hesitate too say why you don't play online if u've another reason :)
Thanks for read that :)
Those 2 reasons would be it.
And for you all the known bug not correct with beta5B that a reason too ?
Obviously :-\
Quote from: iVolution on July 29, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
For me there are multiple reasons for not being online as much as before.
1. Beta5b does not really add new functionality so there is no reason to keep rediscovering everything. Aside from that there are some new bugs that do not really improve the racing experience.
2. I am really busy with finishing my study so game less than before.
3. Full servers attract people, if they are empty i am less likely to start up gpbikes.
for the Third purposition u make its a vicious circle , see less people so doesn't play , so less people play etc etc ..
Time! not enough of it!
core.exe crashes dont help i guess..
i think there is plenty of people playing but there is no initiative..
peterV decided to host an event.. Bam! full grid... ;)
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 29, 2014, 01:36:56 PM
Time! not enough of it!
core.exe crashes dont help i guess..
i think there is plenty of people playing but there is no initiative..
peterV decided to host an event.. Bam! full grid... ;)
yeah but event it's just like 1/2 hours , for me i'm boring after some lap online now with this beta and less riders online
Hello,
many reasons that make i'm not on server:
1: corexe if i'm not the first or the second coming in the session, and if there is more than 4 people riding.
2: time, i take much time to do track, so no time to ride.
3: i can't join server from america, and some italian, because the ping is too high.
I think there is many people riding everyday, see the alibaskins dedicated server page, all results:)
Quote from: janaucarre on July 29, 2014, 03:41:18 PM
Hello,
many reasons that make i'm not on server:
1: corexe if i'm not the first or the second coming in the session, and if there is more than 4 people riding.
2: time, i take much time to do track, so no time to ride.
3: i can't join server from america, and some italian, because the ping is too high.
I think there is many people riding everyday, see the alibaskins dedicated server page, all results:)
There are really less people than beta4B !
Quote from: guigui404 on July 29, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
There are really less people than beta4B !
yes true, it seems like the online interest is less then before but maybe its just the bugs like core and getting out of sync for the americans :(
Gosh.....stop the whining b*tches! Since I have been part of GPB there have always been episodes of low interest, especially during the summer month's. Me personally, I am a big beta 5 supporter and still I have many other things to do at the moment. So no biggy, we will be here again during the cold and dark winter time (speaking for northern hemisphere) for sure.
Beta 5 :(
I think Stout is largely correct in what he says about the lack of online activity is due to seasonal choice. However, I also think that for those who ride with auto-rider active are seeing a big difference in increased instability manifesting itself in low-sides much more than was ever present in beta 4/b. Very disheartening to say the least.
Maybe some have found a workaround by finding a setup that helps a lot, but one thing is for sure, if people would use full manual rider then, even in beta 5/b, the bike is very much more stable in corners, even the tight ones.
Maybe there lay the solution? We should all go fully manual? :P
Hawk.
well i dont rly play much since 5b i tryed 1ยบ 1 2 weeks but then stopped dont find much fun in this patch ...
w8ing for next one i check the forum every day to see if it pops up xD
Only one reason for me. Beta 5b.
Whilst I see some great potential and many advantages in beta 5b I am struggling to raise much enthusiasm for it if I am honest. To put a great deal of practice and effort into beta 5b to adjust to it and learn the physics model seems a bit illogical to me personally if PiBoSo is working hard to rectify the problems and publish a remedy with a beta 6 release.
I intend to use a work-around in adjusting the bike set-up parameters to make it more rideable as others are doing. I will give that a go. But tbh I feel as though I may be just treading water with this a bit in reality.
By contrast with beta 4b I couldn't keep off it. I was completely addicted.
Just being honest. No offence to those who love beta 5b intended.
Hot weather doesn't make any difference to me at all if I'm honest. Apart from holidays away.
Best to all, "Midge"
I'd tend to agree with Stout and Hawk, but one thing is bugging me: if it is true that the annoying behaviors we are seeing (excessive wheeling, low speed wobble, high speed weave, maybe even the easy to lose front) are due to wrong/excessive rider weight movement (to the rear), then fixing this sounds like a 5min job. OK, plus the time to build the beta and all the side chores, plus the usual overhead for unforeseen stuff and so on. Half-a-day job ? One day job ?
I mean, beta5 without the above mentioned issues sounds like pretty good (at least physics-wise) ...
MaX.
I gotta say im actually enjoying beta5b! Especially the 500's.. Bike feels more alive to me..
Avoiding wobbles etc isnt too hard.. Just have to back off a little bit and be really smooth.
It does catch you out sometimes but in general I dont think its as bad as people make out..
Anyway beta5b deffinately has some improvements! If u keep playing u will see them.. And how does anybody expect to give feedback when they dont even play?
Doing lots of laps and playing around with setups has tought me loads on 5b! When beta6 comes beta5b will be fresh in my mind to compare..
Quote from: Abigor on July 29, 2014, 07:10:21 PM
Beta 5 :(
same as u and daniel_F i don't know why but 0 joy when play beta5 .. :-( , keraz think same as us
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 29, 2014, 08:56:15 PM
I gotta say im actually enjoying beta5b! Especially the 500's.. Bike feels more alive to me..
Avoiding wobbles etc isnt too hard.. Just have to back off a little bit and be really smooth.
It does catch you out sometimes but in general I dont think its as bad as people make out..
Anyway beta5b deffinately has some improvements! If u keep playing u will see them.. And how does anybody expect to give feedback when they dont even play?
Doing lots of laps and playing around with setups has tought me loads on 5b! When beta6 comes beta5b will be fresh in my mind to compare..
Have to agree I have gone faster on this beta the 125 & 500 are great fun they turn so much better and more stable on the brakes.
I started back with the 125 and found a good setup and now moved to the 500.(not tried 900)
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 29, 2014, 08:36:07 PM
I'd tend to agree with Stout and Hawk, but one thing is bugging me: if it is true that the annoying behaviors we are seeing (excessive wheeling, low speed wobble, high speed weave, maybe even the easy to lose front) are due to wrong/excessive rider weight movement (to the rear), then fixing this sounds like a 5min job. OK, plus the time to build the beta and all the side chores, plus the usual overhead for unforeseen stuff and so on. Half-a-day job ? One day job ?
I mean, beta5 without the above mentioned issues sounds like pretty good (at least physics-wise) ...
MaX.
Agreed Max.
I too often wonder why Piboso has to leave us waiting months for another beta before sorting out known bugs/problems that I too don't think shouldn't take too long to solve. Like you said, to put the rider weight position problem right(which I believe from what Piboso stated is one of the major problems with Beta 5/b) shouldn't take that long? Why cannot Piboso release patch updates as and when he fixes problems instead of thinking he has to make a major beta release to satisfy us all? I for one would be very happy for regular patch/hotfix updates rather than to have to wait for months for the next beta. I think this would also give us all more incentive and particularly a much greater sense of progression towards GPB V1.0. :)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on July 29, 2014, 10:17:05 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 29, 2014, 08:36:07 PM
I'd tend to agree with Stout and Hawk, but one thing is bugging me: if it is true that the annoying behaviors we are seeing (excessive wheeling, low speed wobble, high speed weave, maybe even the easy to lose front) are due to wrong/excessive rider weight movement (to the rear), then fixing this sounds like a 5min job. OK, plus the time to build the beta and all the side chores, plus the usual overhead for unforeseen stuff and so on. Half-a-day job ? One day job ?
I mean, beta5 without the above mentioned issues sounds like pretty good (at least physics-wise) ...
MaX.
Agreed Max.
I too often wonder why Piboso has to leave us waiting months for another beta before sorting out known bugs/problems that I too don't think shouldn't take too long to solve. Like you said, to put the rider weight position problem right(which I believe from what Piboso stated is one of the major problems with Beta 5/b) shouldn't take that long? Why cannot Piboso release patch updates as and when he fixes problems instead of thinking he has to make a major beta release to satisfy us all? I for one would be very happy for regular patch/hotfix updates rather than to have to wait for months for the next beta. I think this would also give us all more incentive and particularly a much greater sense of progression towards GPB V1.0. :)
Hawk.
Seems perfectly logical on the face of it to me. Just patch it.
(Based upon such a proposition being feasible.)
If there is a reason why this is not possible in this instance then fair enough. I do not think anyone would have a problem if this was the case. But yes a patch to improve the wobbles and wheelies would be most welcome I think.
grT ;)
+1
Yes a patch! Im happy with the beta although im sure it will move on anyway.. a patch would be great!
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Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 29, 2014, 08:56:15 PM
I gotta say im actually enjoying beta5b! Especially the 500's.. Bike feels more alive to me..
Avoiding wobbles etc isnt too hard.. Just have to back off a little bit and be really smooth.
It does catch you out sometimes but in general I dont think its as bad as people make out..
Anyway beta5b deffinately has some improvements! If u keep playing u will see them.. And how does anybody expect to give feedback when they dont even play?
Doing lots of laps and playing around with setups has tought me loads on 5b! When beta6 comes beta5b will be fresh in my mind to compare..
I agree with you 100%
wobbles and weaves could be toned down a tat though ;D
Quote from: JamoZ on July 29, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
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Hope you don't mind me asking as a "newbie" but what's a core.exe Jamoz?
grT ;)
That's the error most viewed in gpbikes:)
Quote from: janaucarre on July 30, 2014, 12:32:24 AM
That's the error most viewed in gpbikes:)
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That was a bit naughty of me Jamoz under the circumstances. Thank goodness you didn't take me seriously..!
Immediate priority, dare I say it, is beta 5b however.
grT ;D
Quote from: JamoZ on July 29, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
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All ur gif make better cense than a long explaination , i like that :p
Quote from: JamoZ on July 29, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
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Hmmm ... did you update the drivers of your CRT monitor ?
MaX.
No i don`t think so, what is a monitor?
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Is that John Wayne? I never did like him. What a nasty man! Eyes too close together also!
Bloody cowboys! Who needs them?
grT :)
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A lazy husband and too many beers..
Finally you manage to get him to do something and this is the result! That's just so predictable.. ::)
grT
and then - brraaaaap braaaaaaap bbrrrraaaaapppp - over all carpets
Exactly! He's even got the hose in the wrong socket..he would be blowing rather than sucking even if he could get it started!
Really she should have just let him stay down the pub with his drunken mates..
grT ;D
i see all these gif , my god Jamoz has change all of you ...
Quote from: guigui404 on July 31, 2014, 04:58:11 PM
i see all these gif , my god Jamoz has change all of you ...
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On a more serious note...
I've noticed lately that I have trouble connecting to the servers. Usually it's some kind of data missmatch.
Since the number of mods is likely to rise, and it's already hard to always be up to date, would it be possible to to eliminate this problem by substituting these missmatches by some default bike model? Something like the "Ghost" model for missing skins.
Quote from: BozoCRO on August 02, 2014, 07:57:35 AM
On a more serious note...
I've noticed lately that I have trouble connecting to the servers. Usually it's some kind of data mismatch.
Since the number of mods is likely to rise, and it's already hard to always be up to date, would it be possible to eliminate this problem by substituting these mismatches by some default bike model? Something like the "Ghost" model for missing skins.
Missing skins/paints don't cause data mismatches(GPBikes will just use the default paint for that bike), and if you use Klax's thread, "Bike MOD Revived" to download your bike mods then you shouldn't get any Bike MOD related data mismatches; same goes for downloading tracks from the "Track Downloads" thread you shouldn't get track data mismatches either. :)
But if you are downloading bike mods and tracks from other websites, then the likelihood of getting data mismatches increases dramatically because you are likely going outside an established Bike MOD version number that most servers abide to.
Hawk.
@Hawk: Bozo is suggesting that one could connect to a server even if he doesn't have all the bikes necessary to join the server. If another player on the server has a bike Bozo hasn't got, Bozo would see him on a "default" (or "ghost") bike.
I already suggested this a long ago: it still makes sense to me, I don't know exactly how feasible it is.
Doing this will solve a lot of mismatch issues (not all, the bike Bozo is using must still match exactly the one on the server) and will avoid having to sync a lot of bikes (you'd only need to sync your one).
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 02, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
@Hawk: Bozo is suggesting that one could connect to a server even if he doesn't have all the bikes necessary to join the server. If another player on the server has a bike Bozo hasn't got, Bozo would see him on a "default" (or "ghost") bike.
I already suggested this a long ago: it still makes sense to me, I don't know exactly how feasible it is.
Doing this will solve a lot of mismatch issues (not all, the bike Bozo is using must still match exactly the one on the server) and will avoid having to sync a lot of bikes (you'd only need to sync your one).
MaX.
+1
i think thats how every game do !! if i ride a cbr and someone connects with a gsxr and i don't have his bike , i would see the murasama
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 02, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
@Hawk: Bozo is suggesting that one could connect to a server even if he doesn't have all the bikes necessary to join the server. If another player on the server has a bike Bozo hasn't got, Bozo would see him on a "default" (or "ghost") bike.
I already suggested this a long ago: it still makes sense to me, I don't know exactly how feasible it is.
Doing this will solve a lot of mismatch issues (not all, the bike Bozo is using must still match exactly the one on the server) and will avoid having to sync a lot of bikes (you'd only need to sync your one).
MaX.
Oh... I obviously misunderstood. :)
But yeah, if it would be possible to allow the server to generate a ghost bike, or even better, a server defined default bike that would be good, so that if someone connects with a RG500 which the server doesn't have installed then the server will just replace that with a varase 500 default bike to show for others who are connected at the same time? I think this is the sort of work-around you are suggesting?
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on August 02, 2014, 04:46:55 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 02, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
@Hawk: Bozo is suggesting that one could connect to a server even if he doesn't have all the bikes necessary to join the server. If another player on the server has a bike Bozo hasn't got, Bozo would see him on a "default" (or "ghost") bike.
I already suggested this a long ago: it still makes sense to me, I don't know exactly how feasible it is.
Doing this will solve a lot of mismatch issues (not all, the bike Bozo is using must still match exactly the one on the server) and will avoid having to sync a lot of bikes (you'd only need to sync your one).
MaX.
Oh... I obviously misunderstood. :)
But yeah, if it would be possible to allow the server to generate a ghost bike, or even better, a server defined default bike that would be good, so that if someone connects with a RG500 which the server doesn't have installed then the server will just replace that with a varase 500 default bike to show for others who are connected at the same time? I think this is the sort of work-around you are suggesting?
Hawk.
No, not excatly.
Let's say the server has installed bikes A, B and C.
Today, if you want to connect you must have bikes A, B and C installed locally: if you miss bike C you can't connect, even if you'd like to use only bike A or B. The rationale behind this behaviour is: let's imagine the server allows you to connect with bike A, even if you don't have bikes B and C installed locally. Now let's imagine another player joins the server, using bike B. Yourself you don't have bike B installed locally, so there's a problem.
The suggestion is, in the situation described, to still allow you to connect having only bike A installed locally, but if somebody connects to the server (or is already connected when you join) using bike B or C, you will see him/her with a ghost/default bike (as you don't have his bike locally).
You should never be allowed to join a server with a bike the server does not have installed (makes no sense), but the suggestion does not imply that.
MaX.
But i got the new bike mod and the tracks from track dl... and i get in some servers e.g. GP Bikes Italia stk 1000 training server monza a data missmatch.... idk why :/
Quote from: Braap570 on January 13, 2015, 08:56:29 AM
But i got the new bike mod and the tracks from track dl... and i get in some servers e.g. GP Bikes Italia stk 1000 training server monza a data missmatch.... idk why :/
The STK1000 italia server has updated to the latest STK1000 Bike-set before the bike mod update dates of the 1st and 15th of each month. Therefore if you wish to connect to the GPB italia STK1000 server you will have to download the latest STK1000 bike-set update from the GPB italia website.
Basically the problem you are having is that you currently have the STK1000 V0.95 Bike-set installed and you need the latest STK1000 V0.96 version to be able to connect to the GPB Italia STK1000 server.
Hope this helps.
Hawk.
PS: If you do update before the GPB Bike MOD update dates of 1st and 15th of each month then you will not be able to connect to most other servers that stick to the GPB Bike MOD update dates. Just that some server admins would rather have the latest versions as they are released rather than wait a few days for the new GPB Bike MOD version to be released. The choice is yours to make. :)
thank you for the quick response hawk! :)