There is something fishy with NC - Mugello, both the regular and the NDS version. I get core.exe on the 1-3 lap every time, at pretty much the exact same place! It happens in the middle off the short straight between Borgo San Lorenzo (5) and Casanova (6). Has anybody else had the same problem? Any ideas about why it happens?
[Update] Can now also confirm that the same problem occurs on the straight between Poggio Secco (3) and Materassi (4).
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Yes I get the same exact thing can do a lap without core crashing.
Quote from: davidboda46 on May 23, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
There is something fishy with NC - Mugello, both the regular and the NDS version. I get core.exe on the 1-3 lap every time, at pretty much the exact same place! It happens in the middle off the short straight between Borgo San Lorenzo (5) and Casanova (6). Has anybody else had the same problem? Any ideas about why it happens?
[Update] Can now also confirm that the same problem occurs on the straight between Poggio Secco (3) and Materassi (4).
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
I must admit I have not had a problem before with Noss69's NC-Mugello Track, but I'll test myself at the places you state above on track and see if I get this problem too. I'll report back here.
Can I ask what graphic settings you have so I can match same settings for the test?
Thanks for reporting this issue Daniel.... I'll report back later this evening when I get home and am able to test myself.
Hawk.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5457/17884724908_fbd36c09f5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tfpTC1)GP_bikes gfx_settings (https://flic.kr/p/tfpTC1) by David (https://www.flickr.com/photos/david46/), on Flickr
Thanks for the above graphics info, appreciated.
I notice you are not using the default GPB interface. There have been reports in the past that changing the GPB interface to a custom one can make GPB unstable...... As I said in my previous post above I'll give this a test with your graphics settings you provided here and get back to you here this evening, but it might also be advisable to put the default interface back and test it again yourself and see if it still gives you the same issues. ;)
Just a thought but worth a try I think..... ;)
Thanks David.
Hawk.
[off topic]
@David: why having everything maxed out and anisotropic at minimum ? Aniso doesn't impact the FPS a lot (much less than antialiasing I think).
MaX.
I have high Aniso and low Anti.
Anti causing problems is common - not that I'm saying its causing the specific problem here but while core.exe exists removing known problematic settings might help. Might....
I haven't had a core outside of the server tests last night for ages, not that that proves anything.
For example Poor old Meyer had a lotttt of cores last night while Hawkster and others had but 1 so it could be influenced by individual settings. Could be.... :) .
Pennyworth inserted :D
Ok, I'll try with the default interface and see if I the problems remain. Let you know how it went when I've tried.
(Honestly I can't remember why I lowered the anisotropic)
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Quote from: Napalm Nick on May 25, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
I have high Aniso and low Anti.
That makes more sense usually: antialiasing eats up more FPS than aniso, so if you're on a shaky GPU, then ...
Quote from: Napalm Nick on May 25, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
Anti causing problems is common - not that I'm saying its causing the specific problem here but while core.exe exists removing known problematic settings might help. Might....
Never heard about any correlation between usage of AA and core.exe (surely not for me, I have everything maxed out and usually suffer from few core.exe crashes).
MaX.
I couldn't wait I had to have a go....
same thing - game closes at those areas. Did it to me 1st run 1st lap, 2nd run 2nd Lap, 3rd Run (AA and Aniso to Min _why not?) 3rd Lap.
Other points of note: First two times the game shutdown with no error message, 3rd time it gave core.exe error message.
Anything else? I have standard interface but Mod garage, I was running the excellent MaxHUD to see where I was on the track map at freeze.
Suggestions -
Apart from some random pattern in the results (123,123) yep that track has an issue.
Knowing what that issue is could go a long way to help knowing more about the cores :o
maxDEBUG needed. :-*
Just been testing on NC-Mugello and I had no problems whatsoever.
I can only suggest you use default GPB interface and garage in future guys as there is certainly nothing wrong or amiss with the track as far as I can tell because as I said I had no problems whatsoever, and I personally created the track surface model for this track with Noss so I know for sure there is no problem with the track surface mesh that could cause any problems.
For your reference: I was using same graphics settings as you posted above David. I was testing with the SBK BMW 1000 bike and did 15 laps in the test.
I have not changed any interfaces to custom MOD interfaces.
Hope this helps.
Hawk.
PS: If all else fails, maybe try downloading and installing the track again from the forum "Track Downloads" Database might somehow work for you? But to be honest I cannot see that making any difference as if the track data was corrupt in any way it just wouldn't work at all. But stranger things have happened so it maybe worth a try as a last resort? ;)
Quote from: Napalm Nick on May 25, 2015, 11:58:00 AM
maxDEBUG needed. :-*
NOT.GOING.TO.HAPPEN.SORRY.
:)
MaX.
Thanks for looking into it guys!
Cheers!
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Ok, I removed the custom UI and tried the NC - Mugello NDS. Got the crash after six laps, so at least a bit better. Then I downloaded NC - Mugello RC1.00 and that worked for eleven laps. So now I'm totally confused :P Going to keep testing, but keeping my fingers crossed that Beta 7 will solve this problem (and many other).
Thanks again,
Cheers.
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Quote from: davidboda46 on May 25, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Ok, I removed the custom UI and tried the NC - Mugello NDS. Got the crash after six laps, so at least a bit better. Then I downloaded NC - Mugello RC1.00 and that worked for eleven laps. So now I'm totally confused :P Going to keep testing, but keeping my fingers crossed that Beta 7 will solve this problem (and many other).
Thanks again,
Cheers.
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Very strange indeed..... You have not by any chance got programmes running in the background or running at the same time that might be interfering in the running of GPB have you? Any tool bars are particularly suspect of causing troubles with the running of other apps in my experience, or any malware adware apps that have been installed by mistake that you may not even know about?
When was the last time you did a complete fresh re-install of your PC Operating System? If you do suspect any malware or adware that you cannot get rid of by the usual means then a totally fresh re-install of your OS is a good idea and only way you'll know for sure that you get rid of some of these problems, but I only tend to do this sort of thing as a very last desperate resort to solve any possible Virus/Malware/Adware issues that are messing with my PC's operation.
Hawk.
Not that I know, did a clean install not long ago, and check the system no a regular basis. And since Nick is also having problems I doubt it's down to malware... but who knows for sure...
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Quote from: davidboda46 on May 25, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Ok, I removed the custom UI and tried the NC - Mugello NDS. Got the crash after six laps, so at least a bit better. Then I downloaded NC - Mugello RC1.00 and that worked for eleven laps. So now I'm totally confused :P Going to keep testing, but keeping my fingers crossed that Beta 7 will solve this problem (and many other).
It's not because (current) computers are deterministic that you can really predict their output :)
Just to be on the safe side, if somebody (david, nick, daniel) can reproduce this regularly (e.g. within 3 laps), you may want to try without any plugin enabled (just rename the .dlo in the plugins folder to .dlo.off): if it still happens at least we know the plugins are not affecting.
MaX.
Roger red leader, I'm doing it
As I know you are hanging on my every word this is what im doing:
1. Have created complete fresh profile - RSA GP250 - graphically on default settings (no AA and lowest Aniso) except Res of 1920 x 1200. No Plugins, no garages etc, everything else default (High/3D grass off). Fullscreen. -so far 6 laps without core.
2. have gone fullscreen - no core (3 laps)
3. Aniso and AA to max 3D grass - no core
4. Plugins re-enabled - nope still cant make it core
5. Go back to old profile see if core still exists - Yes it does but it didn't on the GP250 but did when I swapped to Moto2 ?????
6. Next step - is to go back to new profile and use Moto 2 bike - well have run out of time now after 2 laps no core.
Food for thought.
when i change the bikecategorie, i close gpb and restart it. if i dont do that i get a core on connect with the "changed" bike.
Yes this is a problem I also see >:(
Turned off all plugins, switched to RCV1000V 2014 (the bike I usually ride with), restarted the game. Loaded NC - Mugello RC1.00, 3 laps in... bam... crash (No core exe message btw), at one of the two usual spots. Same GFX settings as in the screenshot. I seriously don't get it, gonna try turning off anti and aniso and 3d grass and try again. Grrrr.....
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Quote from: JJS209 on May 26, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
when i change the bikecategorie, i close gpb and restart it. if i dont do that i get a core on connect with the "changed" bike.
Me too. Always have done. Same too when track changes from track list on servers.
Hawk
PS: It mystifies me how some systems can have so much trouble and yet others hardly any??? :o :o :(
Turned off 3d grass, crash on lap 9... Grrr...
My rig btw... so we might rule out gfx card differences as a cause...
GPU: GeFörce GTX 580
CPU: Intel Core I7, 920@2.67 GHz
Memory: 6GB RAM
GFX card driver version: 352.86
OP sys: Win 7 64
David "Gonzo" Boda #46
I'm Intel i5 and AMD 7870, 8Gb for the record
i was on mugello today and had no cores with the r6.
there are nearly no core.exe's for me. maybe one in the week.
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AMD A10 6800K, Nvidia GTX750ti, 8Gb DDR3, SSD,...
Quote from: JJS209 on May 26, 2015, 09:53:54 PM
i was on mugello today and had no cores with the r6.
there are nearly no core.exe's for me. maybe one in the week.
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AMD A10 6800K, Nvidia GTX750ti, 8Gb DDR3, SSD,...
Generally speaking JJ the same is true for me, but this week many, due to the Pause server shenanigans and this Bug checking. :)
Do you still get this problem David?
I must find some time and try it again
It's wierd because it comes and goes. Sometimes I have a lot of core.exe, then it can be 4 game sessions with no problems at all, and that's without changing any settings! The problem never disapears completly but the frequency seems to be sort of random... and it's offline play so the servers can't be an issue... it's a f-in mystery.
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
Quote from: davidboda46 on June 02, 2015, 10:41:06 PM
It's wierd because it comes and goes. Sometimes I have a lot of core.exe, then it can be 4 game sessions with no problems at all, and that's without changing any settings! The problem never disapears completly but the frequency seems to be sort of random... and it's offline play so the servers can't be an issue... it's a f-in mystery.
The joys of using C: Heisenbugs are always possible.
MaX.
(*)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug)
Now you've made me email Wikipedia with that link and the FBI want my address >:(
or were you Heisenbugging us with it? Mailto indeed!
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 03, 2015, 08:30:34 AM
Now you've made me email Wikipedia with that link and the FBI want my address >:(
or were you Heisenbugging us with it? Mailto indeed!
Ach, that was a dumbbug from me, just clicked on the "Insert mailto" mark indtead of the "Insert link". Fixed now.
No biggie anyway, the FBI already has your address. And mine.
MaX.
LMFAO, They got mine too but for other reasons lol
DD