Just had my offer of free win10 upgrade. Apparently it will download on release (3GB) and then wait to be installed at a time of my choosing :) Wonder how much of my apps and software will be compatible though ::)
Should be fairly compatable with windows 8/.1 stuff
I tried the technical preview and got gp bikes demo working so all is good :P
Been using 10 since they released the preview and love it. One main thing is memory usage is far better, most programs run better and higher FPS too. A few bugs but the full version should rock.
DD
just noticed the upgrade option today, so can i just confirm - if i go ahead with the update, i will have the option to install it when i choose, and it won't just go ahead and automatically install itself, is that correct?
It's gonna be free for 1 year, you don't need to rush.
Advice: wait at least 4-5 months and feedback from early adopters.
MaX.
good advice indeed, MaX - let the guinea pigs test it first, lol :D
Quote from: TheCapeDoctor on June 02, 2015, 09:38:45 AM
just noticed the upgrade option today, so can i just confirm - if i go ahead with the update, i will have the option to install it when i choose, and it won't just go ahead and automatically install itself, is that correct?
The reserve option just copies the install package to your local drive and then waits for you to install, might sacrifice my laptop first and see if everything runs on that OK, desktop has all my good stuff on it that i need to use.
Anyway, unless i have a lot of reports that says that upgrading works fine, I prefer a clean install.
And we don't know yet if this will be possible (within the "free" upgrade program).
MaX.
I wonder if you will be able to generate a bootable 'installable' (DVD or memory stick) from the download package - i know it has been possible with older versions of windows
Ive been with the preview from the start and have not heard of a 100% Fresh install only upgrade.
DD
Apparently is has been possible with preview;
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/operating-systems/1401617/how-to-install-windows-10-clean-install-dual-boot-or-vm (http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/operating-systems/1401617/how-to-install-windows-10-clean-install-dual-boot-or-vm)
Hopefully the download upgrade will be able to generate a suitable .iso much like preparing a custom install of the older OS .. can only hope they see the sense in this otherwise they might have a lot of upset upgrade customers where the upgrade did not go quit to plan and the machine is left unusable ::).
I hope so too.
During the 'upgrade W7 for £25 to Windows 8' period the savvy downloaded the files and 'saved' them to prepare an iso for a fresh install later while the non-techs could just click 'Run' and upgrade.
Either way I would copy and save any W10 files downloaded to another medium so you have reload options. Check out the upgrade info too I remember there was an upgrade option to purchase a disk which is probably worth a few quid/dollars/scubies for mild-techies.
I will have to do it earlier rather than later for IT support services but, for personal use I'm with Max - wait 6 months or until the first patch/service pack (whatever you want to call the files), are released to appease the moaning minnies who can't handle change lol ;D They might fix some bugs too I suppose.
IT is still only an upgrade even if you do a fresh install, you HAVE to have WIN 7 or 8 installed to upgrade to 10. There is NO stand alone WIN 10. Just wanted to make it clear as many read the words fresh install as only WIN 10, not an upgrade.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 02, 2015, 11:54:55 PM
IT is still only an upgrade even if you do a fresh install, you HAVE to have WIN 7 or 8 installed to upgrade to 10. There is NO stand alone WIN 10.
What do you mean ?! For sure there will be stand alone win10 installs.
MaX.
I cannot see why it would be a problem, your original win7/8 is keyed (mainly to) your existing motherboard and the original packaged license code, so its easy for MS to know its a genuine install when it does the online registration.
I would hope it will be possible because of all the OEM pre-installed systems where the owners did not receive the physical win7/8 media that would otherwise be required to repair a damaged win10 upgrade or if they want to swap out the original system disk with the system recovery pre-installed.
If it is an install over an original system only then its a disaster waiting to happen :D
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 02, 2015, 11:54:55 PM
IT is still only an upgrade even if you do a fresh install, you HAVE to have WIN 7 or 8 installed to upgrade to 10. There is NO stand alone WIN 10. Just wanted to make it clear as many read the words fresh install as only WIN 10, not an upgrade.
DD
Really? :o I really hope not. I mean you can DL the W10 Preview ISO and burn to disc already for fresh installs, see below why I fear it. And what happens after the free upgrade period and you buy a PC without an installed OS?
Quote from: h106frp on June 03, 2015, 07:38:37 AM
If it is an install over an original system only then its a disaster waiting to happen :D
Yep lol. I no likey 'upgrading'. It may well work after, but I would make less mess if I filled a scatter gun with the upgrade files and fired them randomly at my hard drive ;D Bill sure has no respect for drive platters hehe.
Quote from: h106frp on June 03, 2015, 07:38:37 AM
If it is an install over an original system only then its a disaster waiting to happen :D
^ That. Despite the fact recently Microsoft has vastly improved their update stuff, I'm still very very skeptical about upgrading from one OS version to the next (or next next) without a fresh install.
Also, I may want to install 10 on a new SSD and keep the current one with 7 at hand, just in case.
No fresh install, no party. Even if that means I have to pay for 10.
MaX.
Thats why its FREE if you have 7 or 8! You HAVE to have an installed OS to upgrade, the FRESH install means you install 7 or 8 FRESH THEN 10 upgrade. They will naturally offer a FULL 10 to BUY, but only upgrade is FREE. They aint all that stupid to give a WHOLE OS for FREE!
Sorry, not my bad lol
DD
They could work out a way to allow you a (free) 10 key if you already have 7/8 and still allow you a fresh install.
It will be prone to attack, but anyway anything is, so ...
MaX.
You said it as it is MAX. We should get a FULL version to make it work as it should as I HATE upgrades. Just give me the whole thing dang it lol
DD
It even works on a "custom" version of windows 7/8 ::)
Free windows 10 anyone? :P
Quote from: JamoZ on June 03, 2015, 08:09:16 PM
It even works on a "custom" version of windows 7/8 ::)
That's not yet confirmed, as far as I know.
MaX.
Just got this: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/yes-youll-be-able-to-do-clean-installs-of-the-free-windows-10-upgrade/ (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/yes-youll-be-able-to-do-clean-installs-of-the-free-windows-10-upgrade/)
So, as expected, it's a yes, but there are conditions.
Advice stands: wait 4-6 months. There's no rush.
MaX.
P.S.
The subtitle added by the site that referenced the article was "Until they change the rules (next week, or maybe tomorrow)".
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 03, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on June 03, 2015, 08:09:16 PM
It even works on a "custom" version of windows 7/8 ::)
That's not yet confirmed, as far as I know.
MaX.
Well, i`ve already had the RC running, and my upgrade is already reserved.
I`ve used one of those OEM activators so i guess it`ll work.
Not that i could recommend win10 to anyone at this moment :-X
Quote from: JamoZ on June 04, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
Well, i`ve already had the RC running, and my upgrade is already reserved.
I`ve used one of those OEM activators so i guess it`ll work.
That's exactly the thing that is not granted to work. The fact it works in the RC doesn't imply anything.
Anyway, we'll see ... one extra reason to wait a bit :)
MaX.
I`ll report if it`ll work, if yes then free windows 10 for everyone!
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 02, 2015, 02:02:42 PM
Anyway, unless i have a lot of reports that says that upgrading works fine, I prefer a clean install.
And we don't know yet if this will be possible (within the "free" upgrade program).
MaX.
it will be after the installation via upgrade
Some extra news: http://www.zdnet.com/article/with-a-nod-and-a-wink-microsoft-gives-away-windows-10-to-anyone-who-asks/ (http://www.zdnet.com/article/with-a-nod-and-a-wink-microsoft-gives-away-windows-10-to-anyone-who-asks/)
MaX.
Finally seemed to have worked out that the millions of unlicensed copies of DOS and then win3.x /98 then the 'corporate' XP key versions are probably responsible for windows/MS becoming so popular (dominant).
Once people had to pay for a license for each machine user base started to fall off and people became openly critical of the OS (vista) even though it was arguably better than its forebears.
The money for MS was always in applications and other software that uses their (restricted) platform so giving away the OS probably makes economic sense in the longer term.
Just wait for the 'not fair/uncompetitive' legal threats from other platform developers who realistically could lose a lot of user base.
Quote from: h106frp on June 22, 2015, 11:35:41 AM
The money for MS was always in applications and other software that uses their (restricted) platform so giving away the OS probably makes economic sense in the longer term.
A lot of money for them has always been in business licenses, and these wont be free for Win10.
Personally I still think they could have shot for a low price (e.g. 20-30$), just for educational purposes: I like the idea of paying something that is worth.
But I do think what they are doing makes a lot of sense. I'd just like them to communicate it in a better and clearer manner: FFS, if it is free, just say it and provide a download link. Period.
Quote from: h106frp on June 22, 2015, 11:35:41 AM
Just wait for the 'not fair/uncompetitive' legal threats from other platform developers who realistically could lose a lot of user base.
That would be a bit laughable, won't it ? Apple and/or Linux screaming at Microsoft because Win10 is free ...
MaX.
Quote from: h106frp on June 01, 2015, 09:45:23 PM
Just had my offer of free win10 upgrade. Apparently it will download on release (3GB) and then wait to be installed at a time of my choosing :) Wonder how much of my apps and software will be compatible though ::)
Looking at the offer in detail - There is a Microsoft app(option) for this offer that you can run and it apparently will check all your installed apps to check their compatibility with Win 10 before you decide to install. ;)
Personally I have this offer still on my PC but have only looked at it but not acted on it as yet.
Hawk.
I've had it since it got released as Preview Version and i dont really have many issues just certain games dont work properly or theres no sound for the games but apart from that im loving Win 10
Service Pack 0 (zero) ? :)
http://www.winbeta.org/news/day-one-patch-windows-10-features-over-1gb-fixes-and-improvements-download-links (http://www.winbeta.org/news/day-one-patch-windows-10-features-over-1gb-fixes-and-improvements-download-links)
MaX.
its running on the laptop for a test period too see if i like it too bring it to my 2 desktop computers.
I definitely do not want to update my Win7, so it will be a fresh install for me from the ISOs (they are already available for download).
Will have to check if that works fine with the Windows Product Key stuff.
If I can do that, I'll install on a new SSD, pick which SSD to boot from at boot time (e.g. default to 7) and then take my time to reinstall everything.
That would be the cleanest solution by far. Even better than dual boot (as you can't move that fu$%ing MBR).
Minor trouble: my 7 currently has some "special folders" (My Documents etc) on a D drive (HDD), I wonder if booting on 10 it will find the D drive and do some auto-magic smart stuff to detect the special folders, ultimately screwing everything up :)
Anyway, not right now of course: I can wait 1-2 months minimum.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 29, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
I definitely do not want to update my Win7, so it will be a fresh install for me from the ISOs (they are already available for download).
Will have to check if that works fine with the Windows Product Key stuff.
If I can do that, I'll install on a new SSD, pick which SSD to boot from at boot time (e.g. default to 7) and then take my time to reinstall everything.
That would be the cleanest solution by far. Even better than dual boot (as you can't move that fu$%ing MBR).
Minor trouble: my 7 currently has some "special folders" (My Documents etc) on a D drive (HDD), I wonder if booting on 10 it will find the D drive and do some auto-magic smart stuff to detect the special folders, ultimately screwing everything up :)
Anyway, not right now of course: I can wait 1-2 months minimum.
MaX.
My win 7 had documents and alot of other folders on the D drive and the migration to win10 picked those same folders. Worked great.
Quote from: Boerenlater on July 30, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
My win 7 had documents and alot of other folders on the D drive and the migration to win10 picked those same folders. Worked great.
That's exactly what I don't want it to do :)
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 30, 2015, 10:55:24 AM
Quote from: Boerenlater on July 30, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
My win 7 had documents and alot of other folders on the D drive and the migration to win10 picked those same folders. Worked great.
That's exactly what I don't want it to do :)
MaX.
Then you need to select a clean install.
Did anyone who had the Insider Preview installed (using the activation key provided by MS at the time) get a free fully activated update to the real version as was 'promised'?
- Kaspersky 2015 wont install on win 10 (compat issue)
- Nvidia win10 drivers wont install (compat issue)
1 month after win10 install you can rollback too 8.1, its noted on the calender ::)
Quote from: Boerenlater on July 30, 2015, 11:02:47 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 30, 2015, 10:55:24 AM
Quote from: Boerenlater on July 30, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
My win 7 had documents and alot of other folders on the D drive and the migration to win10 picked those same folders. Worked great.
That's exactly what I don't want it to do :)
MaX.
Then you need to select a clean install.
No, because I want to keep my existing win7 install.
MaX.
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 30, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
Did anyone who had the Insider Preview installed (using the activation key provided by MS at the time) get a free fully activated update to the real version as was 'promised'?
Was doing this at work and yes it seemed to go to activated and loose the evaluation label above the clock, not at work this week but will check again on Monday, didn't know this was going to happen tbh but this might explain the change.
Upgraded my Surface now too and it all seems fine.
Yeh it was a sweet deal for any new system builds to get a free OS. I missed the Insider install (IE I installed the Preview one day after the keys were de-authorised) by 1 day on a PC I built out of bits but although I have a Windows 8 key to use anyway, I'm interested to see if the free upgrade to the full version for "Insiders" 'deal' was upheld.
I was trying to explain why a fresh install of W10 should be favoured over an 'upgrade', to a client today. As I had my analogy head on I thought this might help:
"Consider Windows 10 to be the food and your mouth to be your receiving computer system."
"Fresh Clean Install: only a little mess to clear up afterwards:"
(http://media.timeout.com/blogimages/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/eatthecake.gif)
"Upgrade:"
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac23/xarity/pie.gif)
Hope it helps.
Hi guys sorry to be back but thought a bit of insight to the real 10 might help. I run win 7 ultimate so I got 10 pro installed and it is slower than the preview version! I tested the preview for the whole time and FPS and compatibility were great, BUT with a FULL Win10 PRO my FPS is down, controller input slower and it was harder than the preview to get my normal windows config to how I had it in 7 ultimate. I run on an ASUS G75 with an i7 3.3GHz 20GB DDR3 Ram and a GTX670 with 3GB DDR5 dedicated video memory and the FPS change was terrible compared to the test WIN10? I did not test every program yet but as an example, Assetto Corsa in ultimate settings ran high 50 FPS, dont forget I am only on a laptop, but in the new Win 10 it went down to 28 FPS!
I have not spent much time setting this version up but compared to the preview there is a performance issue so be careful before you do a full install.
I hope it was okay to add my thoughts as I know I am not welcome here but I just wanted to help
DD
NVidia, AMD and Intel all updated their drivers today.
MaX.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 30, 2015, 10:19:51 PM
I hope it was okay to add my thoughts as I know I am not welcome here
DD
??? :o grow some balls!! I miss your crazy posts ;D
Interesting point of note DD.
Scanning over the Steam forums got me wondering about the usual Day 0 problems but people seem to be resolving with the new W10 graphics drivers and game integrity checks. Time will tell. Once you have it all sorted out in a few months (SP1 at least) I will install mine hehe ;D
Interesting stuff ,especially the last link.
Windows 10 privacy settings (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/30/windows-10-privacy-settings/)
Opt-Out (https://choice.microsoft.com/en-gb/opt-out)
Good links Peter. Most people just tick the 'yeh yeh whatever just hurry up' boxes during the load.
I raised this concern during the Insider Preview to anyone who would listen. I am interested how it goes down in Germany where rules and the public are more savvy with not accepting this stuff. You might remember the 'Origin' saga.
Generally I don't mind the idea of it too much, but the likelihood of the data being compromised/stolen/misused etc is too high to just be complacent about it.
Same infos, with some pics: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.single.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.single.html)
MaX.
Good one - I didn't know about the WUDO setting (edit: the peer to peer bit). Local network distribution is a good idea though. Think mine will be ON (Local only).
Out of interest:
I took a Windows 8 (upgraded to 8.1) PC to W10 using a fresh install and it doesn't work - IE a Windows 8 key (as opposed to W8.1) key wont activate it (with no option to phone MS). So after loading W10 and failing activation, I had to reload 8, upgrade to 8.1, and upgrade to W10 . Pffff. To do a fresh W10 install now I need to interrogate it to get the new assigned W10 key and reload W10 fresh haha sheesh. Think I will leave that particular PC as 'upgraded'.
Quote from: Napalm Nick on August 05, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
Good one - I didn't know about the WUDO setting (edit: the peer to peer bit). Local network distribution is a good idea though. Think mine will be ON (Local only).
Mine will be OFF. I have a network of 1 PC, so ... :)
Quote from: Napalm Nick on August 05, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
Out of interest:
I took a Windows 8 (upgraded to 8.1) PC to W10 using a fresh install and it doesn't work - IE a Windows 8 key (as opposed to W8.1) key wont activate it. So after loading W10 and failing activation, I had to reload 8, upgrade to 8.1, and upgrade to W10 . Pffff. To do a fresh W10 install now I need to interrogate it to get the new assigned W10 key and reload W10 fresh haha sheesh. Think I will leave that particular PC as 'upgraded'.
Yep, that's "The Way It's Meant to be Played" ...also known as "How to annoy the people that do have a legitimate win7/8 license and push them to install win10 fresh using some easily available and fully working crack". Because on top of forcing the update before a fresh install, your win10 key obtained from your win7/8 key is tied to your hardware: if you swap some of it you will have to contact Microsoft as your key will no longer work (and if you swap your MoBo it's not even sure your key will ever work).
The beauty of it is that the idea behind is that your original win7/8 key will be deactivated (making the rollback to win7/8, which is possible only within 1 month, risky and cumbersome). Typical Microsoft over-complicated mess. Instead of blabbing about free upgrades, put a reasonable price for retail copies (e.g. 50E) that allow the customer to do whatever he wants: update, fresh install or whatever.
In the end, another nice idea (pushing people to win10 giving it around for free or little) completely fucked by stupid marketing all over the place.
Most likely, I'll go with the crack, even if I could just update my current win7, because I want my win7 and win10 to run in parallel for a while.
If that's not a fail on their side I don't know what else is ...
MaX.
Agree. Didn't know about the 1 month roll-back limit though >:(
Gargh there goes the Vista/W7 upgrade exploit lol. Operating systems should be free FFS there's still plenty of crap to purchase in the MS store lol.
Linux Mint forever.
Linux!
To go with Peters OPT OUT link here is another good one from their very recently amended privacy policy/T&Cs:
Microsoft Account | Privacy (https://account.microsoft.com/privacy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCiqiENgjw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCiqiENgjw)
An alright video explaining Windows 10. Might be worth a watch if anyone's on the fence.
If anyone is so worried about collection of data then "Google" may not be the best search engine for you, forget windows10, lol
https://duckduckgo.com/
Quote from: WALKEN on August 05, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
If anyone is so worried about collection of data then "Google" may not be the best search engine for you, forget windows10, lol
True but it's a weak argument. First, google is not an OS (nt for PC at least), second they make it very explicit that they will use your data and it's kind of expected from them (once yuu know their business model). And google actually gives you stuff "for free". Last, the low-blow of changing the default browser and search engine (to edge and bing) is borderline pathetic ... yawn ...
MaX.
It will be interesting top see what the corporate and government desktop stance will be with all the data tracking issues. Most companies will not like the idea that their systems data can potentially be harvested by a third party. I am assuming that MS have forced openings in any installed firewall software or will a third party firewall put a stop to it?
Quote from: h106frp on August 05, 2015, 08:23:28 PM
It will be interesting top see what the corporate and government desktop stance will be with all the data tracking issues. Most companies will not like the idea that their systems data can potentially be harvested by a third party. I am assuming that MS have forced openings in any installed firewall software or will a third party firewall put a stop to it?
Enterprise editions will have for sure more settings to play with and Microsoft is probably not interested in harvesting their data (heck, these guys are actually paying the Win licenses, and more than consumers). It's our data they want.
Anyway, I doubt you'd be able to stop one specific data flow simply using a firewall.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 05, 2015, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: WALKEN on August 05, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
If anyone is so worried about collection of data then "Google" may not be the best search engine for you, forget windows10, lol
True but it's a weak argument. First, google is not an OS (nt for PC at least), second they make it very explicit that they will use your data and it's kind of expected from them (once yuu know their business model). And google actually gives you stuff "for free". Last, the low-blow of changing the default browser and search engine (to edge and bing) is borderline pathetic ... yawn ...
MaX.
I was just generally speaking. If someone is worried about data collection they should look at everything they do on a computer. I don't need anything collecting my interests as I know what I like without something telling me what I like. Its marketing.
The more hand holding the user gets the less freedom they have = proprietary!
In some cases it's not a matter of hand holding, example: system crashes, infos about the crash are sent to Microsoft. That's not a bad idea and it's not hand holding, but sending all the content you were using when the crash happened is a bit too much (e.g. the content of a spreadsheet), especially if this is done without the end user really aware about it.
MaX.
LOL ! How to kill countless hours of marketing and strategy brainstorming with a few lines of Python.
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking)
MaX.
What a faff! update error 80240020 and seems to be a big problem for many! >:(
Somehow beaten win update into finally restarting the download package so i will have wait a couple of hours to see if i have moved forward with the upgrade process.
Glad i am trying this on a 'spare' machine and not my beloved Win7 desktop.
You could do what I did - get the ISO from MS and use a disk to upgrade. Yep I know you shouldn't have to.
If this all goes to rats that the next step, my little box has a genuine MS win7 code sticker on the base is that code all you need for iso install?
Quote from: h106frp on August 06, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
If this all goes to rats that the next step, my little box has a genuine MS win7 code sticker on the base is that code all you need for iso install?
If you use the ISO to
upgrade, you don't need any code, it will find it by itself if I recall correctly.
MaX.
Quote from: h106frp on August 06, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
If this all goes to rats that the next step, my little box has a genuine MS win7 code sticker on the base is that code all you need for iso install?
A fresh install with that code might not work. If it is like windows 8 (not 8.1) then the key is useless - you must upgrade using the disk (you can then interrogate 10 to get the new key and fresh install).
If updating using a disk you created from iso then you are right Max, it will do the activation thing all by itself.
For a fresh install you need a win10 key.
But if you update (even from and ISO), it will convert your win7/8 key to a win10 key and you're set.
MaX.
Not the smoothest process and i was on the verge of using the ISO when the on line update process finally lived up.
2 hours later and win10 is on the spare PC, first impressions are good, all hardware present and correct :)
Switching off the tracking stuff was actually quite painless, just hit 'custom' during first start. :)
Apparently it is now loading a service pack! ???
Now the painful part seeing if all my development software and hardware works OK, not expecting this bit to go well :(
It does look very lovely though and being a windows phone owner (i know, but i like it as a business phone ::) ) it all feels quite familiar.
Quote from: h106frp on August 06, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Switching off the tracking stuff was actually quite painless, just hit 'custom' during first start. :)
Read th eposted tutorials, as the "custom" install is not enough, some stuff is left ON.
MaX.
So.. Is all this inevitable?
God help me lol ::)
Does Win 10 use the same serial key as win7 when you upgrade? Is it possible to install Win 7 again using the old key once you upgraded to win 10?
Quote from: SKD on August 07, 2015, 05:48:48 AM
Does Win 10 use the same serial key as win7 when you upgrade? Is it possible to install Win 7 again using the old key once you upgraded to win 10?
It converts your old win7/8 key into a win10 key and it de-activate the old win7/8 key. So no, you will not be able to install win7 with the old key.
Only thing you can do (within 1 month from activation) is to downgrade your win10 back to win7/8 (but some had troubles in doing so).
To be fair, as far as I've read around must updates went very smoothly.
MaX.
All this yapping about keys...
KMS activator anyone? ::)
Quote from: JamoZ on August 07, 2015, 08:42:06 AM
All this yapping about keys...
KMS activator anyone? ::)
The idea was to stay legal, if possible. After that, there are plenty of solutions, of course.
MaX.
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on August 07, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
So.. Is all this inevitable?
God help me lol ::)
I think its luck of the draw, but i would suggest going through the ISO burn bit from the MS website (amazingly painless) first just in case windows update is as screwed as mine was. Then use this to update from inside your current install.
TIP:You do not want the 'N' options of the OS it will offer when you go to burn - these are feature limited to please the EU and you must choose the version that matches your current OS i.e. Home or Pro
The actual update process seems stable and fully automated once you finally get it started though.
The spare PC i tried it on was a fresh win7 install with all updates and it still had a few 'hiccups'. If updating i would suggest you do a normal system clean up and uninstall of most third party applications first then re-install fresh onto win10 though.
Good news GPB runs fine, quite well actually for a test system with built in graphics :) and the GPX controller detected and installed straight away. :)
If you like Android/Apple tablet type environments you will like the integrated Store type stuff for music/movies/apps and its not too intrusive if you don't.
Overall, so far, Win10 seems very responsive, boots quickly, looks nice and seems to have some neat new functions. Even the tile elements integrate nicely with the desktop and it does not feel like you must have a touch screen for it to work - hurrah for the desktop :)
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 07, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: JamoZ on August 07, 2015, 08:42:06 AM
All this yapping about keys...
KMS activator anyone? ::)
The idea was to stay legal, if possible. After that, there are plenty of solutions, of course.
MaX.
Legal is boring...
Now this, is outright illegal to me:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case)
I've heard (and seen first hand) about dumb moves from Microsoft, but this specific one has the potential to be a major blunder.
I do hope that the top executives that greenlighted this are instantly fired.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on September 11, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
Now this, is outright illegal to me:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case)
I've heard (and seen first hand) about dumb moves from Microsoft, but this specific one has the potential to be a major blunder.
I do hope that the top executives that greenlighted this are instantly fired.
MaX.
Easy solution is not to have your system set on Auto-Update and install but just on notify only for updates. I've always done this because there are certain updates that are not relevant or needed.
Personally I have had no problem with this Windows 10 download issue they are talking about and doubt I will unless I set my system to windows auto-update as it states in the article. ;)
Hawk.
I don't have it on auto-update neither, since day zero of my install, but I fear that won't be enough.
And even if it is, calling a 6GB new OS download an "update" is really an abuse.
My plans to go to win10 are delayed until further notice. Anyway I doubt GPB will go DX12 any time soon :)
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on September 11, 2015, 08:18:20 PM
I don't have it on auto-update neither, since day zero of my install, but I fear that won't be enough.
And even if it is, calling a 6GB new OS download an "update" is really an abuse.
My plans to go to win10 are delayed until further notice. Anyway I doubt GPB will go DX12 any time soon :)
MaX.
I agree Max.
I always wait at least a good year after release of a new OS before even thinking of upgrading. Gives Microsoft and the dev-houses a good chance to sort out any issues. :)
Hawk.
Just under a year of course, or you will have to buy it!
I think Microsoft has missed a trick - if they allowed Vista machines free upgrades 99% of owners would grab it! Most Vista machines can handle W10 and there is a lot about still so it would of helped Microrippedyouridentityoff get their 1 billion by 2017, quota!
That idea is patented Bill, if you want to use it then get yer fat cheque book out and don't hold back on the zero's.