Hi Guys, I could not resist a quick try at this...................SORRY LOL
Project Bikes first ride....................well at least the controller is for a motorbike lol
https://www.youtube.com/v/AZagfJsP_9s
Was not going to use the video was just screwin about then thought why not.
I have never driven with that Beemer and loved it out the box..............what fun. I will have to set it up and learn the track and then make a video.
Tried the RADBUL and I think in real life I changed me undies every lap lol.
My controller works great as Project Cars allows so much adjustment.
Hope you enjoyed it or at least got a laugh at me visiting the JUNK SHOP on the corner lol
DD
Ouch! hehe. Not sure why you stopped you still have 3 wheels man.
Would certainly like to see bikes in this. :)
LOL............yeah me too. Many say it is not a sim but look at the tuning for controllers, the cars, the content and the visuals it is just FUN. I live just down the road and across the bridge from SMS and will be going to see them soon. I got asked by Radical Simulation for motion sit-on systems so workin on that at the moment to see what happens.
It actually feels great to use my bars in it and it is the leaning that I miss the most lol. The dang car just wont go on 2 wheels lol.
Will have a go at Nordschleife later today just for fun lol. GPBikes is the ONLY bike sim for physics but still has a few major problems I think Piboso will have fixed for beta8, cant wait. I do like to have other bikes to race against and not have to go online all the time to practice so this would be great with bikes lol.
At least its fun ;D
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 06, 2016, 12:49:58 PM
Many say it is not a sim
Many who don't know what they're talking about.
If Project Cars is a Sim... I am a kangaroo :-\
Well hop along now Blackheart lol.
It is not an out and out sim, but it has more sim it it than many others and as for controller input, car set-up and realistic day/night and weather transitions, they are very real.
Well anywho I tried it again with a bit of setup to the controls and the car to just have some fun. Those not interested need not watch, real simple aint it lol
https://www.youtube.com/v/SpL7-b9a-QQ
After all this is for something we wont get in GPBikes as it is a pure sim not any shick snack added like Pcars. I just enjoy the chance of offline practice with AI and love the nighttime drives on Nordschleife!!!
DD
DD
Great Vid DD I enjoy watching them and visualizing the onboard bike view. Totally agree Project Bikes would be great. I conclude it would be the game we all hoped RIDE was going to be (a half decent Simcade - I doubt anyone thought RIDE was going to be a pure Sim, anyway we have GPBikes and shhh....Road Race Simulator 2016 for that) :) .
Plus your controller has an ashtray, breaking the age old saying "as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike", awesome!
8)
Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Road Race Simulator 2016.
Wish piboso would/could tell us more about this......
Road Race Simulator 2016??????WTF tell me more..........................
Its actually a blast with the BMW 320 Turbo group 5 on the Scottish track. Gonna have to do Nordschleife next. Its hard with the car physics and such restricted steering lock lol.
Just sent a 13 page letter to SMS on Monday and Margaret from SMS said the directors will be getting in touch with me next week when their back from the USA. More info at link below.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?27493-Project-BIKES/page95 (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?27493-Project-BIKES/page95) post #948
My heart is with GPBikes 100% but there are some things I want that just wont happen as Piboso is making a pure sim and allows modding. PBikes would be the same as PCars where you cant really mod it, just add a custom paint and thats it. I cant wait for beta 8 it sounds soo good.
DD
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on February 17, 2016, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Road Race Simulator 2016.
Wish piboso would/could tell us more about this......
Holly Moses, I completely forgot about this!
Would be interesting to see what happened to this in the end (non-starter or finished already ::))
Quote from: matty0l215 on February 17, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on February 17, 2016, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Road Race Simulator 2016.
Wish piboso would/could tell us more about this......
Holly Moses, I completely forgot about this!
Would be interesting to see what happened to this in the end (non-starter or finished already ::))
who knows.. wanna make a little bet? ;D
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on February 17, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on February 17, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
Holly Moses, I completely forgot about this!
Would be interesting to see what happened to this in the end (non-starter or finished already ::))
who knows.. wanna make a little bet? ;D
Nope...
not until i've "seen" the good :P ;)
It will start after V1 GPBikes (approximately 2 months). <Chortle> or I will also eat my helmet.
(https://beerhelmetaction.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/cropped-1913-green-beer-mug-hat-large.jpg)
There is just to much eating of ones own helmet on this forum lmao
Nick if you got a green helmet get yourself to the doctors sharpish
DD
https://www.youtube.com/v/gu4g9y9DOgw
Note the conversation between "Urban Chaos 2.0" and "Marcel Pfister" (the car enthusiast). See the attached picture below. He's actually driven the cars he's talking about and his preference for Assetto Corsa over Project Cars is due to one thing, and one thing only: Force Feedback. It allows him, and many others to feel immersion and connection to the road. Read the entire conversation. Project Cars' physics is top-notch. The only folks saying Project Cars is not a simulator are the disgruntled children who've become pissed at how vehicle simulations are no longer exclusive to a small "elite" group of gamers in their moms' basements and/or those who'd had to pay a premium for yearly subscriptions.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
Note the conversation between "Urban Chaos 2.0" and "Marcel Pfister" (the car enthusiast). See the attached picture.
What exactly is the point of your post?
Quote from: JamoZ on February 19, 2016, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
Note the conversation between "Urban Chaos 2.0" and "Marcel Pfister" (the car enthusiast). See the attached picture.
What exactly is the point of your post?
Just in reference to naive folks who trash-talk Project Cars, and call it a "sim-cade" or whatever.
Quote from: JamoZ on February 19, 2016, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
Note the conversation between "Urban Chaos 2.0" and "Marcel Pfister" (the car enthusiast). See the attached picture.
What exactly is the point of your post?
I think relates to my comment above ... ;D
P.S. I got my license 12 years ago ;)
EDIT: UB 2.0 You have the same age as my license. ;D ;D ;D
both just good car racing games if you ask me... ::) (i know, nobody is asking me ;D) one thing that is clear to me though is the physics and general handling is alot more ''polished'' in Assetto corsa.. not much weird shit going on. Whereas project cars can also be a backflip simulator just by hitting some curbs.. :o ;D
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on February 19, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
both just good car racing games if you ask me... ::) (i know, nobody is asking me ;D) one thing that is clear to me though is the physics and general handling is alot more ''polished'' in Assetto corsa.. not much weird shit going on. Whereas project cars can also be a backflip simulator just by hitting some curbs.. :o ;D
Yep Bob are good games, I started many years ago with the sims (GTR, rfactor...), for example I play sometimes to F1 2015 and I enjoy it, but it's not a sim but a sim
arcade like almost all the current products.
Well it seems to have gotten a bit sideways in here lol.
To set you all a bit straighter on why I feel PCars is in most parts a sim, I have worked professionally on Porsche's for over 16 years. Worked with Johnny who owns JCM Performance in Florida and ran Carrera Motorsports with Greg Dillone for years where I used to build transmissions for Alex Job Racing (#23). I know HOW to drive a real performance car the right way and how it feels. I think I can be my own judge as to whether or not PCars has any realism to it and is more than capable of making a very realistic bike sim. Out of all the games/sim out there on PC now PCars has one thing that the others dont, it has a "RAW" feel to it if set up right and the FFB can be adjusted to feel as close as possible like the real cars I have driven.
I think the arguments as to if it is a sim or not are really of no point. Its an old sim/game now. 2 is on the way and bound to be better and either way I am sure SMS are learning something new every day.
Also, I am not using a gamepad and then saying it FEELS right, how can anybody using a gamepad say it feels real??? Seriously!!!
I think it has also been forgotten I have been talking about an all round sim/game to allow for what will not be in GPBikes. GPBikes is a pure sim, end of, no flashing lights and fancy balls, just pure riding. I am talking about a bit more than that and that automatically adds GAME to its classification.
This thread was started for those who want GPBikes for pure sim riding AND PBikes for a bit of fun and added enjoyment with endurance racing, day and night and a good AI for offline racing etc etc.
So please stop the, it is and isnt a sim squabbling, its getting silly lol
Just enjoy beta8 and have a great weekend
DD
Edit, BOBPPPPPPP your input is always good to read bro.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
Just in reference to naive folks who trash-talk Project Cars, and call it a "sim-cade" or whatever.
In pCARS i can floor the throttle in a 500hp RWD car on a wet track with cold tires only to understeer off the track, not trash talking here...just sayin...
And that comment shows you know how to drive I take it JamoZ lol. BTW When was the last time you drove that car in real life like that?
PCars is not perfect in that way, but it is better than Milestone by far in many aspects and that is the thing I am talking about but I guess you forgot to read that part.
Have a great day now
DD
@DD I used a logitech g25, not a gamepad...
I drove dozens of times at Monza, It is close to where I live, and I know that feedback should give a sim.
You lucky bugger Blackheart, I love Monza, only been a few times. Unfortunately all my time with AJR and JCM was in USA, but the Rolex cup is something special to itself. G25 is okay but lacks punch in its FFB. I use the TX with very high settings and permanent fan cooling to get a pretty good feedback. Leo Bodnars wheel is best though. Thing is, for a bike sim/game, it is another thing altogether steering wheels and handlebars react differently and there is far more to think of than just somebody sitting with their hands on a wheel. A rider is putting his whole upper body weight on the bars and the distance between the hands adds to the forces put on them to that of a steering wheel. Thats just to start with. There is so much more involved too. I will have to make a video explaining this subject as to write it I am shite lol.
At the end of the day, I just wanna have fun.........oh girls just wanna have fu, unn, oh yeah they wanna have fuuuuuuun.........sorry got carried away again
DD
No luck, but much money "thrown to the wind" ;D
I do not know the prices now, but when I had there the last time, the prices were up by +100 eur (1 lap) with the sports car organizer's disposal. Of course I speak of Porsche and Lamborghini (the Ferrari It has prices too high), and the first few times they are useless because it feels like a driving school.
i dont really understand what makes some of these car games a sim or not to be honest.. is it because a developer did a good job on making it ''feel'' realistic?
how does it all compare to what piboso is doing? because from what i can gather from GPB is that every aspect (pretty much) of the motorcycle is calculated or simulated in hope that it will all come together to make a realistic handling virtual bike.
is that the same for car sims?
so if 2 car games were made side by side.. 1 just felt realistic overall, and the other went the extra length to simulate every moving part and this that and the other, but didn't ''feel'' as realistic. what happens there?
surely some of these ''games'' are good enough quality to be classed as ''sim's'' ?? i mean.. if it lets you race in a realistic way, because to me, half of ''sim racing'' is about the actual racing itself.. racing with people with a similar attitude towards it all and all that malarky.
...... iv'e bored myself typing this :( good luck reading it (or not) im off to bed :D
Sweet dreams BOBPPPP LOL
If you have pcars join The Gentlemans Club. Great adault professional racing each week. Great group of people.
Ask for Ziggy on pcars forum
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 19, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
And that comment shows you know how to drive I take it JamoZ lol. BTW When was the last time you drove that car in real life like that?
PCars is not perfect in that way, but it is better than Milestone by far in many aspects and that is the thing I am talking about but I guess you forgot to read that part.
Have a great day now
DD
You`re damn right i know how to drive. Have more then enough experience in real life, and been simracing since the first days of GTR 1. My comment wasn`t even directed at you DD, so dno why you`re taking a stab at me here? :P I avoid Milestone products like the black plague, so i tend to agree with you there ;)
It was meant halfheartedly JamoZ. I shall eat my helmet if it makes you feel better, seems the in thing on the forum now lol. l enjoy the concept of pilestone games but not the physics and unrealistic sides they have.
Miss my old GTR2 with all the mods Targa Florio with pcars graphics would be cool.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 19, 2016, 11:19:28 PM
It was meant halfheartedly JamoZ. I shall eat my helmet if it makes you feel better, seems the in thing on the forum now lol. l enjoy the concept of pilestone games but not the physics and unrealistic sides they have.
Miss my old GTR2 with all the mods Targa Florio with pcars graphics would be cool.
DD
;D Shame I've sold years ago the g25 :'(
(http://s14.postimg.org/gaq6cpv3l/gtr2.png) (http://postimage.org/)
loved my old g25 g27 but Tx is far better. l am hoping to meet with SMS soon to discuss this so it is not like pilestone game lol. Gt legends is making a comeback l heard last week
Would you be so kind to make a video of the helmet eating? :P
Targa Florio is coming to Assetto Corsa, so your wishes are granted...
Dang thats the second request for that video lol
Yeah Targa on AC should be good.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 19, 2016, 11:02:00 PM
Sweet dreams BOBPPPP LOL
If you have pcars join The Gentlemans Club. Great adault professional racing each week. Great group of people.
Ask for Ziggy on pcars forum
DD
lol ;D
Iv'e seen those guys racing on youtube.. looks ok but they should change the name of the club to ''lets all hold hands and bum each other club'' hehe :P Far too much talking and apologising to each other for my liking.. i like to crack on and race without distractions.. besides, its all about bike racing for me!
LOL BOBPPPPPPPPPPPP
I really have to try not fuckin swear if I race with em lol. I only like the fact that they dont let the idiots who just bump and crash into you because their dumbfucks.
Maybe I will start a club called the HMCAIFCYNOC................................ "Hit my car and I'll fuckin cut your nuts off" club
No pussies allowed lol
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 21, 2016, 04:31:48 PM
LOL BOBPPPPPPPPPPPP
I really have to try not fuckin swear if I race with em lol. I only like the fact that they dont let the idiots who just bump and crash into you because their dumbfucks.
Maybe I will start a club called the HMCAIFCYNOC................................ "Hit my car and I'll fuckin cut your nuts off" club
No pussies allowed lol
DD
Haha sounds great DD!
We need to get suits here that say HMBAIFCYNOC then ;)
hahaaaa ;D pisser ;D ;D
Can you imagine that for a bike clubs name and bumpin into some Angels and explaining the name lol. I think they might actually buy a round lol.
DD
Haha i'm pretty sure they would! and ask if they could start using it :P
i need a numberplate that says HMBAIFCYNOC!
A number plate that big would slow you down.................
Lets change it to...........DMF
DIE MOTHER FUCKERS
;D
Well, I downloaded rFactor2 yesterday, and after playing for some time, I can conclude with 100% certainty that the folks saying "Project Cars isn't a sim" or "rFactor2 is far superior" or iRacing's physics is much better than rFactor2's" or "Assetto Corsa is far more realistic than the others", etc. are talking complete and utter garbage. Nothing but fanboy nonsense. They all have their differences, pros and cons, but all are great sims. It's only a matter of personal preference.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 19, 2016, 11:40:18 PM
loved my old g25 g27 but Tx is far better. l am hoping to meet with SMS soon to discuss this so it is not like pilestone game lol. Gt legends is making a comeback l heard last week
Loved GT legends and about the only car have i have enjoyed. Sharp graphics, great sounds and ran smoothly.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 19, 2016, 11:40:18 PM
loved my old g25 g27 but Tx is far better. l am hoping to meet with SMS soon to discuss this so it is not like pilestone game lol. Gt legends is making a comeback l heard last week
I'm looking to get a wheel, but I don't know which to get. Project Cars is the most realistic sim I've played on PC, and I'm still enjoying it even without a wheel, but I really do want one. Problem is: I hear Thustmasters break too easily, and that Logitechs just don't feel as good.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on March 26, 2016, 07:27:51 PM
Well, I downloaded rFactor2 yesterday, and after playing for some time, I can conclude with 100% certainty that the folks saying "Project Cars isn't a sim" or "rFactor2 is far superior" or iRacing's physics is much better than rFactor2's" or "Assetto Corsa is far more realistic than the others", etc. are talking complete and utter garbage. Nothing but fanboy nonsense. They all have their differences, pros and cons, but all are great sims. It's only a matter of personal preference.
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on March 31, 2016, 05:14:06 AM
I'm looking to get a wheel, but I don't know which to get. Project Cars is the most realistic sim I've played on PC, and I'm still enjoying it even without a wheel, but I really do want one. Problem is: I hear Thustmasters break too easily, and that Logitechs just don't feel as good.
You're judging how good a car sim is without having a wheel ? Really ? :o
Sounds like judging how good a fighter plane is after taxiing it on the ground ...
You don't need a wheel judge 4-wheeled vehicular physics. You need a wheel for finer control, and to judge a particular game's vibrational interpretation of vehicle behaviour .
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on March 31, 2016, 08:46:53 AM
You don't need a wheel judge 4-wheeled vehicular physics. You need a wheel for finer control, and to judge a particular game's vibrational interpretation of vehicle behaviour .
Just as much as you could judge GPB playing it with a trackpad. But if it's fine for you, it's all good.
Try the karts in Project Car are ... something ... epic, a perfect mix between Mario Kart and Ride ;D
Quote from: HornetMaX on March 31, 2016, 07:35:24 AM
You're judging how good a car sim is without having a wheel ? Really ? :o
Sounds like judging how good a fighter plane is after taxiing it on the ground ...
Quote from: HornetMaX on March 31, 2016, 08:49:26 AM
Just as much as you could judge GPB playing it with a trackpad.
or...a gamepad.
We all (except Sh@rk and DD) play GPB with a controller that it's not suited for bike sim. However, we can all tell that GPB is the greatest bike
simulator on the market, that when we all use 6 fingers maximum to control everything using a gamepad.
Having the right controller is always better to have a more realistic feeling with the vehicle and to be more precise, but you can definitely tell if a simulator is good (and if we're talking about simulators I only talk about the simulating part, not graphics and all fancy stuff), or at least better than another.
@Urban Chaos
If you like pCars (which is not bad IMO), take a look at Assetto Corsa. It's bit more challenging, but definitely more satisfying to hotlap with it 8)
Quote from: RiccoChicco on March 31, 2016, 12:05:10 PM
@Urban Chaos
If you like pCars (which is not bad IMO), take a look at Assetto Corsa. It's bit more challenging, but definitely more satisfying to hotlap with it 8)
I've got Assetto Corsa, as well as rFactor2, and Assetto Corsa is certainly not more challenging than Project Cars. Vehicles in Project Cars in general are more difficult to drive, and I like how visibly superior the suspension mechanics are over AC's. AC's track surfaces are also way too damn grippy. Some cars (like the BMW Z4 GT3), are more engaging to drive in AC than PC though, so I do play AC sometimes, but not often. Not a bad sim, but in my opinion, Project Cars is better. rF2 feels the closest to PC minus the lack of grip on some vehicles (like the Marussia), the somewhat more pronounced suspension simulation, and inertial forces that can sometimes feel a bit "off" on some cars, but I just can't get over the unpleasant visuals. I think I'd enjoy rF2 a lot more if I had a wheel, because I think it's just not meant for controllers, no matter how much tweaking you do.
I spend the vast majority of the time with PC, but because all three sims offer something different, I play all three.
I am not sure what it is, but when on Nordshleife in PC it just feels and looks more immersive, I feel more like I am on the track than in a sim than I do in AC.
Mind you I love AC and am sitting here waiting for the 1.5 update on Steam to kick in so I can use the Mustang on the new track(I used to have a 2010 Stang so I partial to them lol)
I have been trying to call SMS today but no bloody answer??? Oh well just have to be patient lol.
DD
Quote from: RiccoChicco on March 31, 2016, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on March 31, 2016, 08:49:26 AM
Just as much as you could judge GPB playing it with a trackpad.
or...a gamepad.
We all (except Sh@rk and DD) play GPB with a controller that it's not suited for bike sim. However, we can all tell that GPB is the greatest bike simulator on the market, that when we all use 6 fingers maximum to control everything using a gamepad.
Having the right controller is always better to have a more realistic feeling with the vehicle and to be more precise, but you can definitely tell if a simulator is good (and if we're talking about simulators I only talk about the simulating part, not graphics and all fancy stuff), or at least better than another.
I see your point but I disagree.
GPB has been designed to be played with a gamepad.
pCars, AC etc have been designed to be played with a wheel.
True, having a proper bike controller is better, but the gap you have on a bike sim between a pad and a proper controller is by far smaller than the gap you have between a car sim between a pad and a wheel. For the simple reason that a wheel is much closer to reality than any custom made bike controller will ever be.
Would you judge how good GPB is wrt another bike sims using a keyboard ?
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 31, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
I am not sure what it is, but when on Nordshleife in PC it just feels and looks more immersive, I feel more like I am on the track than in a sim than I do in AC.
Mind you I love AC and am sitting here waiting for the 1.5 update on Steam to kick in so I can use the Mustang on the new track(I used to have a 2010 Stang so I partial to them lol)
I have been trying to call SMS today but no bloody answer??? Oh well just have to be patient lol.
DD
Pro race-car driver, Rene Rast shows how it's done.
https://www.youtube.com/v/m1mwcthLZ7k
Well, I got an email today with a BIG FAT NO!!! so it aint a happnin!!!
Dear Allan,
I hope that this e-mail will find you well today and my sincere apologies for keeping you in suspense for quite some time.
I have now been in touch with two senior managers and passed your e-mail correspondence for their attention and unfortunately even though the idea is very catchy and they both praised your enthusiasm, the decision ( at least currently) is unfortunately NO.
Kind regards
Maggie :-)
There you go.
So Onward
DD
That's very unfortunate.