SlovakiaRing..............
Nickname.................."The Dogs Bollocks"..............................I am in love with this track brilliant work and oh boy its gonna be a blast online racing on it.
BUT!!! Please mister magic man, can you make ALL the HUMP cams like the first one? It is epic the jumps you can do and the races between riders to how fast over them they can go side by side and not miss the next curve(especially the 2nd one) will make some great video scenes.
Stable track too, NO cores yet............WOOHOO
Thank you for this masterpiece
DD
Gotta make some shit hot vids with the New MotoGP update and this track.
Nick it brilliant for the server.................HINT HINT
Really glad you like it DD, it's a really fun track to ride for sure! ;D
I may update it in future to reflect the true gradients of those hills, so I presume you'd want to keep this current version too for the fun element? ;D
Hawk.
PS: If Nick wants to update the replay cams then I have no objections. Feedback always welcome. ;) 8)
Frame rates are brilliant around 160 so will be great for recording races.
DD
Don't forget to try the Spectator camera set already there maybe that is enough?
I have been getting a real problem with the camera set iin live replay online. It keeps flashing back to the pits for most of the lap. This makes for live streams of races impossible as it looks terrible.
Any chance someone can fix this and also if it is possible to make the cams near the jumps closer for better action.
And NO I have no clue how to do it and will not try as I have too much on me plate at the mo. Plus I would just bollocks it up knowing me lol
Thanks for any help as guys wanna race on this track.
DD
Flashing back to the pits implies there are gaps between the cameras.
This was definitely not a problem at release so something has happened. Please download the track again and check the cameras again. Or give me some time and I will check and send you the camera file again or whatever is required.
Please expand what you mean by 'closer' at the jumps? Zoomed in to focus closer on a bike to capture the flight better? Generally the cameras are made to capture action in the area not individual bikes but custom cameras can be provided yep :)
The cameras for the jumps should be closer to capture bikes coming over them from the side and closer to the jump than they are.
Will re download and test.
Thanks Nick
DD
I just thought....
Slovakia Ring has 4 main different Camera "SETS" to choose when watching relays:
1. Auto
2. TV Camera Set
3. Pitlane Set
4. Spectator Set
If you leave it on Auto it chooses what camera it thinks is best at the time and I reckon it has a Pitlane fetish. Use the other options and see if this gives you better what you want. At the jumps Auto may not be choosing a camera from a set you like also.
Lemme know DD bro
Edit: Just downloaded it to my lappie and ran a lap and no jumping back to pits. However, this may not be the case if you have more than one bike on track as it may jump to capture people coming out (or near, wrongly).
I see what you mean by the other 'hills' and the camera dstance. I can make you a special ACTION camera file to better capture the area sure. Just need to find time later.
Thanks Nick
I just dLed it again and will test ALL sets. I am not sure if it acts different when LIVE REPLAY and REPLAY may be iffy due to ping?
Action cams would be good. For streaming it is important to have as much of the bike as possible and not far off shots.
DD
Yeh laggy ping may well add to the woes.
I would of thought for streaming races, close ups of one bike would be ultra boring to watch when you are trying to capture the fighting action going on. ???
I mean that the shots should not be from so far away you only see a blob as the bikes. Ratio wise I would say so you can have 3 bikes across the screen in a row.
DD
Roger that
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 29, 2016, 08:28:41 AM
Yeh laggy ping may well add to the woes.
I would of thought for streaming races, close ups of one bike would be ultra boring to watch when you are trying to capture the fighting action going on. ???
+1000 ;)
A mixture of both ideally depending on what commentary your doing at the time, but definitely would be really boring to show a close-up shot of riders for the majority of the race for sure.
It's action we want to see and that can only be achieved with a wider angled shot of at least two or three riders in shots. :)
Hawk.
I said close ups only on jumps!!! Learn to read !!! AND I said three 3 bikes on screen thats not one 1 bike DOH!!!
Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 29, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
I said close ups only on jumps!!! Learn to read !!! AND I said three 3 bikes on screen thats not one 1 bike DOH!!!
I do apologise DD.... I was rushing when I made that post cause I didn't have much time and missed reading your other post after that one... My apologies mate. ;) 8)
Hawk.
No wuckers bro.
Shame we cant also chose each individual track cam. Would take getting used to but if you could chose a cam then zoom and move it woohoo lol
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 30, 2016, 06:03:59 AM
No wuckers bro.
Shame we cant also chose each individual track cam. Would take getting used to but if you could chose a cam then zoom and move it woohoo lol
DD
+1000 DD. ;)
I'm sure we talked to Piboso about the very same idea a long time ago when he was talking to us about what we wanted for Live-streaming via the live replay function. So hopefully he will get around to allowing such functions at some stage. Let's hope so! ;D
Sounds like we're going to need a GPB production team to hold live stream events I the future.... Woohoo! ;D
Hawk.
Here you go DD a revised TV camera set attached for streaming action at the humpybits
Hope you like. Wont cause any mismatch. I checked no jump to pits occurs but beware Auto mode as said above if there are a few riders as it may choose Pitlane camera randomly.
Drop it in the SlovakiaRing folder (rename the one there first if you want to keep it).
Thanks Nick
So good to have people that think and care about the members here.
I just had the pleasure to meet Matty in person and it really made GPB feel more than just names in a forum. Thanks Matty.
I will give the cams a try, but knowing you they will be perfect so thank you on behalf of us all.
DD
I hope you didn't eat him ;)
LOL
Matty is a cool dude.
Your TV Camera set is brilliant m8 Thank you. I only tested it in REPLAY online but need to do a LIVE replay test so someone needs to come on the server and be a test piggy.
Loved the jump cams exactly as I had wanted and not to short or too long coverage to make it just right.
You rock bro
DD
EDIT: GUYS download this camera set it is brilliant.!!!!
Okay, so the new cams are great, BUT I think it is a netcode issue for flashbacks to pits.
Online alone replay is perfect, Blacky came on to help and ran some laps and every lap had around 15 flashbacks BUT never in exactly the same place each lap!!! It seems that GPB has issues when in live replay on certain tracks, or in reality all tracks have one or two flashbacks it seems.
I cleaned my system and made sure all was peachy before I tested and it is the same in live replay. I have minimum of 6.28MB/s Upload speed and 160MB Download so should not be an issue. Blacky's ping was 30 so should also not be an issue. As I said it was 15 flashbacks per lap but not in the same place, I did not time them but it looked like close to every corner and could change due to rider speed not always perfectly the same. Need to test more but is defo iffy.
DD
Bloody hell :(. Yeh that is baaaad! I will come to see it too (if I can sort out the 'bike mismatch' lol)
Ok....................so, thanks to Blacky and Nick for the test session. I will do a proper report in the morning as my beer is getting lonely and I need to straighten up lol.
Interesting results and short of it is.
No racing with wifi, that fuckin simple!!!
Full report in the morrow.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 30, 2016, 08:53:08 PMOnline alone replay is perfect, Blacky came on to help and ran some laps and every lap had around 15 flashbacks BUT never in exactly the same place each lap!!!
makes sense because he probably didn't take exactly the same line every lap.
i am pretty sure it's not a netcode thing. have been able to fix it everytime i got these problems by editing the camera files again and again until the "tolerance" was large enough.
No Vin, after several tests was the wifi, no big difference with the ping but with cable connection everything is normal.
interesting.
what was your ping approximately?
Blacky's ping was 30-33 and was tthe same with cable and wifi.
DD
With WiFi you can have a good ping but poor performance.
Have you used InSSIDer to scan your neighborhood and move your router to a clear radio channel? This can help a lot if you have a lot of close neighbors who all have their routers set at shipped defaults. Switching to 5GHz band can also help to find free space.
SO to clear things up a bit. Nick and Blacky were on the server with me and we took turns watching live replay of each other with different bikes(to see if bike data size might be an issue) and single and double riders on screen. After quite a few laps it is 100% nothing to do with the bikes, NOT the track cameras at all.
Blacky reported he was using wifi and then connected using a direct cable instead of wifi. The ping remained the same as it should as it is a signal from the server and router the ping is taken from not the computer directly.
The connection during wifi from Blacky's PC to his router was obviously not perfect and caused the live replay to stutter and have flashbacks as the wifi could not supply an uninterrupted signal between the PC and router.
The cure was simply the cable connection. Many games allow online gaming using a router, but the netcode for those games is basically more stable and therefore has fewer problems. As we know GPB has netcode issues and this is just one more point it shows its weakness.
If you can connect with a cable while racing it is best to do so and it would be interesting to know who uses wifi when racing?
So for now, if you can, please try to use a cable and not wifi if possible. I also wonder if it could cause core crashes during racing as it is something that may upset poor wee GPB.
Naturally this will also allow far better live replays for live streaming.
DD