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Title: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 12:36:00 PM
Ok, Recently had to do a fresh install of gpbikes  >:(, done all the settings the same as before and now while standing the bike up out of the corner i get crazy speed wobble, the game is almost unplayable, just wondering if anyone has had this issue and resolved it. The bike in the video is stock settings which i used to ride with before the fresh install. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8EHtYQcOLM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: h106frp on July 18, 2016, 12:43:19 PM
Is your direct lean the same as before? High direct lean can make the bike sensitive to rapid roll rate changes.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 12:53:33 PM
All my settings are exactly the same, my suspicion was with the calibration but i have tried everything with that  :'(
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Napalm Nick on July 18, 2016, 01:21:28 PM
Looks like wobble3zero to me. Beta 8 crucial physics problem. Mostly tuned out with adjusting bike setup.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
Really? I tried longer swing arm with longer rake and trail, still happens also what's up with the gear change bounce on the motogp bike isn't it seamless? it's like the bike blips the throttle when you change gear which could initiate the bounce of the rear which could start a wobble  :'(
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Napalm Nick on July 18, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
. Try maximum then minimum fuel load and see if that makes a big difference to the wobble. If so it is probably W3Z.  Does it affect all bikes you ride?
Suggest all motogp bike questions are put in Manus thread.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 01:37:08 PM
Yes it's with all the bikes I'll try the fuel load.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: BOBR6 84 on July 18, 2016, 01:37:18 PM
Not much wrong with that.. Look at the speed you are doing! Sometimes it feels slow but keep your eye on the speedo.. Wobbles make sense. Work around -3 with with the offset, fast front rebound.. Works for me anyway.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
Fuel load on 2 made it a little easier, but the issue is that this wasn't a problem until i done a fresh install I don't know what changed but something did  ???
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 01:47:05 PM
Anyway thanks for the help, any idea when the update is coming?
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Napalm Nick on July 18, 2016, 03:26:30 PM
I understand your pain and the point it was better before. If it was better before then keep thinking what might have changed in your settings or (as you say) do the calibrations again a few times. Also sometimes we saw a problem in B8 (which I think PiBoSo has already fixed for B9) that means the profile settings are not saved. Triple check mate is all I can say.

One last try might be the surprising over-the-top re-installation. Cures a lot of niggles (though I doubt it will address your problem) but what the hell.

Beta 9 - who knows mate. Keep your eye on the daily dev log to see if GPB is moving up the priorities  ;) he's a busy chap.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Vini on July 18, 2016, 04:11:47 PM
well, the "seamless" gearbox on the motogp bikes is a known issue.
the upshift time is simply a bit too short, so it shouldn't be hard to fix (and it was better in previous versions).

however, i don't think it's possible to get the downshifts like on real motogp bikes, so keeping the engine at approximately the same rpm through the whole braking process.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 04:29:40 PM
Thanks nick i will try.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: -aGy- on July 18, 2016, 04:30:15 PM
i cant drive motogp bikes but 500cc and moto2(b7) is ok..lot of wobbles and aah its shit..last time i watch motogp race when they exits from turn they get full throttle but when i play gpb its not going to happend because bike gets crazy. tcs need sorted out.and torque to the rear wheel..!!!no motogp for me!500cc or moto2 its my thing.. and why the h... you can go faster tcs off than tcs on?really not make sense.!
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Vini on July 18, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
it does make sense and i've read that it's similar for motogp riders.
the main purpose of TC/AW is reducing injuries, increasing consistency and most importantly saving the tyres.

but of course you are right, getting 260hp to the ground without losing it in suspension and/or bike movement is difficult (a tiny bit of tc/aw helps but I just don't like it interfering with my throttle input so I don't use it).
most of the time you don't get it 100% but the few times you do, it's extra satisfying.
i will use my barcelona vid as an example again since it's the only one showing inputs. i think the only time i really got the maximum acceleration out of the last corner was at the very end of the video (watch the throttle):
https://www.youtube.com/v/mcBRNq381iI?start=2081&vq=hd720
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 05:08:55 PM
Nice vid, how do you get the vid there like that? rather than a link.
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Vini on July 18, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
quote my post to see the "code".
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: janaucarre on July 18, 2016, 08:47:42 PM
Hi,  I've tried all motogp from the bike mod and only one is good for my riding style,  the gsxr.
I use soft tyres with about 2.40 of pressure after 2 laps(for having the english mesure change the settings to metric tosee what is 2.40)
I make front suspension harder(until 13 or 13.5, it depends on wich track you ride)
For sachsenring i put the offset of front and rear to 10mm.
The setting for the parameter under the fork angle is set to 5mm, all the next are at 0.0 for the axe and the arm.
Try it
Title: Re: Speed Wobble
Post by: Ryanoh4 on July 18, 2016, 08:55:48 PM
Interesting I will try it, it's weird because earlier i tried the honda and there was no speed wobble, well not as much so I'm thinking there may be an issue with the ducati, can anyone give it a test to confirm?