If I told you guys that a company submitted a patent application in 2010 in the USA that legally gives that company the rights to any voice communications device and that patent was accepted by the US Patent offices, would you believe me? I doubt it, but it's actually true!! In effect, the USA Patent Office has legally accepted that the phone was invented in the year 2010. Lol! :o :o
Now that USA company which was granted that patent is suing all the major mobile phone companies(including Apple) for breaching their patent without negotiating a product licence and any money now owed to them from the sales of all the major brand mobile phones.
What on earth is going on in the USA! Are they going MAD!!?? :o
Hawk.
Watch the film Idiocracy Hawk. I see many parallels in day to day life. Soon the crops will be watered with Gatorade.Lol.
Don't start you might set "Tin foil hat" Tracey off ;) :P
Them's mens in suits gone stealing the brianwaves ;D
Quote from: Napalm Nick on July 21, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Watch the film Idiocracy Hawk. I see many parallels in day to day life. Soon the crops will be watered with Gatorade.Lol.
You've made me curious.... I'll have to look that film up. Lol ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: matty0l215 on July 21, 2016, 03:38:30 PM
Don't start you might set "Tin foil hat" Tracey off ;) :P
Them's mens in suits gone stealing the brianwaves ;D
Indeed! This would be right up Tracey's street! ;D
Don't give them ideas Matty they might just develop a device to do that! Hehe! :o ;D
Hawk.
It's like the people who reckoned they owned the Copyrights to Happy Birthday. Started suing people but quickly got laughed out of court
Quote from: matty0l215 on July 21, 2016, 04:14:12 PM
It's like the people who reckoned they owned the Copyrights to Happy Birthday. Started suing people but quickly got laughed out of court
Haha! Too right! Lol! ;D
Yeah. These Patent Officers need to start getting their heads screwed on or they'll all end up in mental institutions for granting patents for such ridiculous patent applications. ::)
Hawk.
Patent trolling. A very popular, occasionally lucrative (for the troll I mean, as for the lawyers it's always lucrative) and systematically stupid activity nowadays.
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 21, 2016, 06:22:20 PM
Patent trolling. A very popular, occasionally lucrative (for the troll I mean, as for the lawyers it's always lucrative) and systematically stupid activity nowadays.
Absolutely agree Max...... They did say that the lawyers are making an absolute fortune from it. But the thing is that companies like Apple will have to be adding those costs to their customers. The US Gov should stop that sort of patent trolling.
What gets me is how on earth the patent officers grant a patent that effectively allows them to legally sue any companies for using inventions that are over 100 years old and already in global use? That shouldn't be allowed and they should be more sensible when investigating these trolling patents and refuse them point blank.
Hawk.
Maybe someone at the patent office is making a bit on the side from the lawsuits...
Quote from: TheFatController on July 21, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
Maybe someone at the patent office is making a bit on the side from the lawsuits...
President obama's wife from the looks of it.
Quote from: Hawk on July 21, 2016, 07:35:03 PM
What gets me is how on earth the patent officers grant a patent that effectively allows them to legally sue any companies for using inventions that are over 100 years old and already in global use? That shouldn't be allowed and they should be more sensible when investigating these trolling patents and refuse them point blank.
To be honest, the task of the patent office is really a tough one.
At any rate, not everything is rotten, not even in the US, e.g. the recent win for Goggle vs Oracle on the usage of Java APIs.
Quote from: HornetMaX on July 21, 2016, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: Hawk on July 21, 2016, 07:35:03 PM
What gets me is how on earth the patent officers grant a patent that effectively allows them to legally sue any companies for using inventions that are over 100 years old and already in global use? That shouldn't be allowed and they should be more sensible when investigating these trolling patents and refuse them point blank.
To be honest, the task of the patent office is really a tough one.
At any rate, not everything is rotten, not even in the US, e.g. the recent win for Goggle vs Oracle on the usage of Java APIs.
I really don't know much about that case, but was it really fair for Android to lift Oracles API design seeing as a lot of the code naming conventions were identical which is almost impossible to achieve surely? That is tantamount to plagiarising chapters from a best selling novel, yes?
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on July 21, 2016, 10:18:13 PM
I really don't know much about that case, but was it really fair for Android to lift Oracles API design seeing as a lot of the code naming conventions were identical which is almost impossible to achieve surely?
Yes it was fair if you ask me (and the judge).
Quote from: Hawk on July 21, 2016, 10:18:13 PM
That is tantamount to plagiarising chapters from a best selling novel, yes?
No, because the API was open.
Just Oracle trying to make more money with their legal department than with their developers. They lost and, on top, they are sued because in the proceedings they revealed some confidential info (how much Google pays Apple to be on their phones). Wanna play hardball ? Here it comes :)
[of course google is no saint, that's why the EU (...) has a pretty beefy folder on them, ready to get discussed]
The API being open was what I missed..... Now the ruling makes sense to me Max. I agree. ;)
Hawk.
not to mention the us govt now attacking and seizing some more very popular torrent sites.... feck, i was offline for the last day after a HDD crash, to come back and find my dear friend KAT no longer with us..... :P
even more ridiculous are the silkroad busts every couple of years.
Quote from: CapeDoctor on July 22, 2016, 02:07:41 PM
not to mention the us govt now attacking and seizing some more very popular torrent sites.... feck, i was offline for the last day after a HDD crash, to come back and find my dear friend KAT no longer with us..... :P
Quote from: vin97 on July 22, 2016, 02:14:51 PM
even more ridiculous are the silkroad busts every couple of years.
That's not the world going mad! LOL! ;D
Torrent sites rob companies of income from their products, and well Silkroad we all know about how illegal they are. Lol :P
I must admit the piracy sites are very handy at times, but certainly cannot complain when they get busted considering what they are doing surely?
After all, if everyone started to do that sort of thing then you wouldn't have the products they supply anyway because the companies would go bust. So surely you can see that they have to keep piracy down to an acceptable level? That means these sites get busted from time to time.... They always find a way to put their sites back up anyway. ;)
As far as SilkRoad is concerned..... Well I think they probably get what they deserve in all honesty. If you think I'm wrong then educate me man! Lol. :P ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on July 22, 2016, 02:45:24 PMAs far as SilkRoad is concerned..... Well I think they probably get what they deserve in all honesty. If you think I'm wrong then educate me man! Lol. :P ;D
Offering a safe way to buy substances instead of forcing (addicted/sick or curious but uninformed) people to make business with shady dealers who put all kind of shit into their stuff and thereby possibly saving many people from overdoses, bad experiences and scams is a good thing.
...But what I originally meant was simply the fact that busting these sites makes no sense because one or two months later, the next clone is online (same thing with the torrent sites).
It's just a giant waste of money.
Quote from: vin97 on July 24, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on July 22, 2016, 02:45:24 PMAs far as SilkRoad is concerned..... Well I think they probably get what they deserve in all honesty. If you think I'm wrong then educate me man! Lol. :P ;D
Offering a safe way to buy substances instead of forcing (addicted/sick or curious but uninformed) people to make business with shady dealers who put all kind of shit into their stuff and thereby possibly saving many people from overdoses, bad experiences and scams is a good thing.
...But what I originally meant was simply the fact that busting these sites makes no sense because one or two months later, the next clone is online (same thing with the torrent sites).
It's just a giant waste of money.
Very true Vin, but they've got to show that they are at least trying to combat the illegal drugs trade, otherwise how many more smack-heads would there be around if people thought the authorities let them get away with it?
But I agree with you that in reality it is a pretty pointless task seeing as they just start up another site within 2 weeks as you say. But they won't stop that unless the world co-operates with each other to track these IP's down and stamp them out as quick as they start-up again. :)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on July 24, 2016, 06:14:53 PMthey've got to show that they are at least trying to combat the illegal drugs trade, otherwise how many more smack-heads would there be around if people thought the authorities let them get away with it?
not more actually, as many examples have shown (portugal, colorade, etc.). but less of those smack-heads would die and there would be a greater chance of rehabilitation because you are not constantly forced to be around criminals.
anyway, the most (in fact, the only) effective way of combatting illegal trades is to take the market away from criminals and regulate it.
all the violence and crime that comes with those (large scale) trades is a result of it being a black market that has to rely on vigilantism.
Quote from: vin97 on July 24, 2016, 06:22:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk on July 24, 2016, 06:14:53 PMthey've got to show that they are at least trying to combat the illegal drugs trade, otherwise how many more smack-heads would there be around if people thought the authorities let them get away with it?
not more actually, as many examples have shown (portugal, colorade, etc.). but less of those smack-heads would die and there would be a greater chance of rehabilitation because you are not constantly forced to be around criminals.
anyway, the most (in fact, the only) effective way of combatting illegal trades is to take the market away from criminals and regulate it.
all the violence and crime that comes with those (large scale) trades is a result of it being a black market that has to rely on vigilantism.
Controversial but I tend to agree with you on that Vin. ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: Guimengo on July 24, 2016, 10:18:33 PM
Monsanto has filled patents for seeds of foods that have existed for thousand of years and were native to other countries, and guess what? They have the legal backing to sue countries for using those seeds. Lawyers love that crap and it should be illegal to file a patent for anything where the filer does not offer proof of his invention. Even if just a check before the application: "Did this previously exist? ( ) Yes ( ) No" and if it's a yes, then immediately dismiss.
Totally agree with you mate! ;)
This is were courts should use their common sense and throw the lawsuit out straight away and then charge all costs to those lawyers that started the lawsuit in the first place and force them to give at least a million pounds in compensation to the falsely accused. On top of that the court should rule their bogus patent illegal and void and then sentence those lawyers to a long term prison sentence for attempted fraud. That would stop this ludicrous practice. ;D
Hawk.
We all paid for GPBikes and its a good feeling as you know exactly what your getting, nothing more nothing less!
Idiocracy- that is a great movie :)
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Could you translate that DD? Lol! ;D
Hawk.