I come from play RPG games for years D2/D3/WOW and finding it hard going at the moment to not crash due to my thumbs being useless I found some smoothing and linearity settings, can someone help with base settings that they use.
Last time I play a racing game was GTR when it was released.
Thanks
Hi RBp .
Tell us what controller your using and someone will help
Quote from: RBp on January 07, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
I come from play RPG games for years D2/D3/WOW and finding it hard going at the moment to not crash due to my thumbs being useless I found some smoothing and linearity settings, can someone help with base settings that they use.
Chapter 1.5: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=431.0 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=431.0)
MaX.
nyko air flow I used, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA)
My mate whit used a Microsoft sidewinder which I tried but I can't play without auto lean and auto clutch to much for me to cope with and my hands got sweaty this nyko keep me nice and cool.
Im finding more time in controller set up than bike set the moment.
Quote from: RBp on January 08, 2014, 10:26:18 PM
nyko air flow I used, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA)
Hmm ... it has no analog triggers it seems ...
Big advice: buy an XBox 360 wired pad or a Logitech F310.
MaX.
I bought a CronusMax to use the wireless version of the 360 pad.
As soon as I receive it, I will make quick review ;)
I played with a 360 wired and a Logitech Rumblepad 2 for now.
Quote from: HornetMaX on January 08, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
Quote from: RBp on January 08, 2014, 10:26:18 PM
nyko air flow I used, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-USB-Flow-Controller-Joypad/dp/B001IT8SVA)
Hmm ... it has no analog triggers it seems ...
Big advice: buy an XBox 360 wired pad or a Logitech F310.
MaX.
Stick's are analog, there no triggers just shoulder button for up and down gear but I use an arcadey setting with auto clutch and auto lean
Quote from: RBp on January 09, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on January 08, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
Hmm ... it has no analog triggers it seems ...
Big advice: buy an XBox 360 wired pad or a Logitech F310.
Stick's are analog, there no triggers just shoulder button for up and down gear but I use an arcadey setting with auto clutch and auto lean
OK then. But keep in mind that some joypad have poor sticks: I had a thrustmaster 3-in-1 with which GPB was barely playable.
XBoX 360 and Logitech F310 are tested and approved by many here.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on January 09, 2014, 04:00:23 PM
XBoX 360 and Logitech F310 are tested and approved by many here.
and ps3 controller, obviously. Since it's not mine, i think i'm gonna buy a f310
Good point never thought of that, 360 stick look off set, I look into 310 if i still struggle
it's worth the price
After having problem losing the back on down shift thought I bite the bullet and try one of these, It really tiny but feels more positive laps time not really improved but getting use to a new control takes time.
Get a joystick!
Quote from: nuovaic on January 19, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
Get a joystick!
I'd be interested to know how people use joysticks with GPB, which function is assigned to which axis.
I've bought a TM1600M just to see how it feels with GPB but first impression is not really positive, mainly due to how slowly you have to be with the throttle and the brakes.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on January 19, 2014, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: nuovaic on January 19, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
Get a joystick!
I'd be interested to know how people use joysticks with GPB, which function is assigned to which axis.
I've bought a TM1600M just to see how it feels with GPB but first impression is not really positive, mainly due to how slowly you have to be with the throttle and the brakes.
MaX.
I use a joystick, and I find it better to control the throttle and lean of the bike. I also use the foot pedals off my F430 steering wheel for changing up and down gear.
I hold my joystick near the base as I get better feel that way(No jokes please!Lol :P), I find if I hold it towards middle or top I lose the precision control of throttle and lean.
I guess if you've got used to a gampad setup, then using a joystick would seem very awkward and strange before you get used to it. Same for me when I try using a gamepad I just cannot get used to it. :)
Well I started with alpha 1 and a Logitech attack joystick. Then found many joysticks that might be better, spent a lot, none seemed to work as good, less precision etc. Then got a Logitech extreme 3d pro. Started using the twist on the grip for manual left right lean, then the throttle slider for manual forward back lean. Got way too complex for my old brain, stuck at it for a month but ended up back with the best - the original Logitech attack. Actually have broken 3 since the first days, probably too much pressure on braking... Then added an rc car shock to the handle to get a more simulated brake feel. Works very good. Axis are obvious really, left is left, throttle is forward....trigger for gear up, thumb button on left for gear down, clutch on throttle slider. Plus 9 other buttons for various things. I used to hold the base as well, but now have it screwed down to the desk. Permanent. Gets in the way when doing office work, but which is more important? Lol.
Nuovaic. I love your dedication, screwing your joystick to the office table. In fact I might try that myself. Haha ;D
The main annoyance (to me) seems to be having both throttle/brake and lean on the same stick.
Much easier to open gas without affecting the lean when they are on two separate sticks.
But I have to admit I didn't try the joystick long enough.
MaX.
Hello,
I play with a ps3 pad, before i was with an xbox360 pad, I use motioninjoy to emulate ps3 pad in xbox 360 pad and i played a long time before i saw there is a deadzone at 12% with original settings in the option mode. Put 0% for R2 L2 and for right stick and left stick, save and recalibrate in gpbikes, you will see another world to play. Enjoy it.
I have a xbox wired controller how do i set it up i am terribly sorry if this has been asked already thx.
I have it like this:
Brake = left trigger
Throttle = right trigger
Steer = left stick
lean F/B = left stick
Clutch = right stick down
Rear brake = A
Up shift = Y
Down shift = X
Look back = B
Change Mapping = Left bumper
Walk forwards = d-pad up
Walk back = d-pad down
Respawn = back
Left and right d-pad can be used for gestures
Here is my set up it works for me and I have very small hands for the X-Box Controller.
Right Trigger: Gas
Left Trigger: Front Brake
Right Shoulder Button: Up Shift
Left Shoulder Button: Down Shift
Left Joystick: Left & Right for Steer, Up is for Clutch, Down is for Rear Brake. I have deadzone's set for up and down, so I have to push a little more for them to work. So I don't mistakenly hit the clutch if I push slightly forward. Same for if I pull back.
Left Joystick: Pushed down as a button is to look behind
Right Joystick: All manual movements. Forward, Back, Left and Right.
Right Joystick: Push down as a button right now is to reset Track IR for when I am testing it.
Button Y: Walk Forward
Button X: Walk Backwards
Button A: Raising riders Arm
Button B: Engine Mapping.
Select Button: Reset my Bike back on Track (Also for resetting the bike if I stall)
Start Button: Is for changing views, but I hardly ever use it. Since I only race in Helmet view.
D-Pad Up: Tear Off
D-Pad Down, Left and Right: Various rider Gestures.
Yeah forgot the add the manual lean thingy.
@ klax: Using the shoulder buttons for shifting forces you to use the middle fingers for throttle/brake. Since the middle fingers are less flexible/sensitive i would not recommend using these for the (most important) throttle and brake. As I can imagine that you have gotten pretty comfortable doing this, have you ever tried it the "more common" way i have it setup?
Quote from: iVolution on February 24, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
@ klax: Using the shoulder buttons for shifting forces you to use the middle fingers for throttle/brake. Since the middle fingers are less flexible/sensitive i would not recommend using these for the (most important) throttle and brake. As I can imagine that you have gotten pretty comfortable doing this, have you ever tried it the "more common" way i have it setup?
Yeah but using the A B X Y buttons means that you can't really use the right joystick, right ?
Also, you have the rear brake on a button instead of an analog axis ...
MaX.
Quote from: iVolution on February 24, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
Yeah forgot the add the manual lean thingy.
@ klax: Using the shoulder buttons for shifting forces you to use the middle fingers for throttle/brake. Since the middle fingers are less flexible/sensitive i would not recommend using these for the (most important) throttle and brake. As I can imagine that you have gotten pretty comfortable doing this, have you ever tried it the "more common" way i have it setup?
Your setup is close to what I use in car sim's. But I need my right thumb free for Manual lean, since I don't use any assist when riding. My setup my not work, or seem weird to some. But for me it works. My middle finger is just as nimble as the rest. I guess to many times being drunk when I was younger using it. lol ;)
It did take a little getting use to having six fingers going all at once but now, if feels odd if I don't hold the control like that.
Quote from: Klax75 on February 24, 2014, 03:11:50 AM
Your setup is close to what I use in car sim's. But I need my right thumb free for Manual lean, since I don't use any assist when riding. My setup my not work, or seem weird to some. But for me it works. My middle finger is just as nimble as the rest. I guess to many times being drunk when I was younger using it. lol ;)
Practice makes perfect 8). I only manually lean F/B since also incorporating the L/R is a bit too much for my fingers to handle. Indeed I would have to change my controller setup to your layout to accomodate that.
I've just received my Thrustmaster GPX yesterday. It's basically a standard xbox 360 controller but with longer, more precise triggers that have a very small null zone. I've been using the triggers for steering and it feels pretty good.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 09:36:18 AM
I've just received my Thrustmaster GPX yesterday. It's basically a standard xbox 360 controller but with longer, more precise triggers that have a very small null zone. I've been using the triggers for steering and it feels pretty good.
What do you mean with "more precise" ? Is it what you feel or just their marketing stuff ?
The original xbox controller has 16bit resolution too (not that means it all in terms of precision anyway).
From the (few serious) reviews I've seen, it seems to be a good controller.
Which controller did you have before ?
MaX.
To be honest I haven't tried the original 360 controller with GP Bikes but I'm guessing there would be issues with using its triggers for steering due to the lack of resistance and shortness in the trigger pull as well the rather large dead zone? (so I've heard). Controller setup shows that the GPX triggers are completely progressive - no incremental steps. Btw the rest of the controller is quite flimsy and the overall quality of the controller is not as good as the standard 360 pad.
I'm using the d-pad for shifting and the right analogue stick for gas/front brake. I'm current posting a 1'44 time on the "Victoria" circuit using the Fireblade but then again I've only started playing since last night with the pad.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
To be honest I haven't tried the original 360 controller with GP Bikes but I'm guessing there would be issues with using its triggers for steering due to the lack of resistance and shortness in the trigger pull as well the rather large dead zone? (so I've heard).
You use triggers for steering ?! :o Or did you mean sticks ?
That'd be the 1st time I hear of such a setup.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
Controller setup shows that the GPX triggers are completely progressive - no incremental steps.
Same for the xbox ones.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
I'm using the d-pad for shifting and the right analogue stick for gas/front brake. I'm current posting a 1'44 time on the "Victoria" circuit using the Fireblade but then again I've only started playing since last night with the pad.
Your setup looks very uncommon: typically people have gas/front brake on the triggers, steering on a stick (a few like to have gas and front brake on a stick too).
MaX.
Yep, I'm using trigger steering ;D. It feels more realistic to me (a closer approximation of counter-steering maybe) and I feel like I can be a lot smoother than if I used the analogue stick. Mid-turn corrections certainly feel easier.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Yep, I'm using trigger steering ;D. It feels more realistic to me (a closer approximation of counter-steering maybe) and I feel like I can be a lot smoother than if I used the analogue stick. Mid-turn corrections certainly feel easier.
Counter-steering has nothing to do with "trigger steering". That said, each one has his own preferences ... just letting you know your setup is kind of "unique" :)
MaX.
Quote from: August1 on March 05, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Yep, I'm using trigger steering ;D. It feels more realistic to me (a closer approximation of counter-steering maybe) and I feel like I can be a lot smoother than if I used the analogue stick. Mid-turn corrections certainly feel easier.
You know, it never entered my head to try steering using the triggers..... something I'll have to have a try with when I get a new controller. ;D
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 05, 2014, 06:43:36 PM
You know, it never entered my head to try steering using the triggers.....
The thing that is potentially bothering is that the two triggers have to be on a combined axis so the transitions may be messy ...
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on March 05, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on March 05, 2014, 06:43:36 PM
You know, it never entered my head to try steering using the triggers.....
The thing that is potentially bothering is that the two triggers have to be on a combined axis so the transitions may be messy ...
MaX.
Hmm... There is always something to dash a good idea. Lol
Maybe August1 could fill us in with any problems he's experienced with this issue, if any? :)
That hasn't been an issue so far. The main problems that I'm having now is that the trigger resistance is a little too high which tires out my index fingers and right turns are a bit more tricky than left ones because I have to modulate throttle and brake with my right thumb at the same time which is a little confusing to my brain as well as creating problems with leverage.
Quote from: August1 on March 06, 2014, 02:55:34 AM
That hasn't been an issue so far. The main problems that I'm having now is that the trigger resistance is a little too high which tires out my index fingers and right turns are a bit more tricky than left ones because I have to modulate throttle and brake with my right thumb at the same time which is a little confusing to my brain as well as creating problems with leverage.
Just an advice: there are plenty of people paying car games with a pad, if steering with triggers was worth something, we'd probably know that :)
Changing your controller setup requires a lot of time (2-4 weeks): don't just try a new setup 5 minutes and say "I don't like it".
MaX.