Why is that on some track there is groove buildup and some don't have this? There are strange things with this "groove" ;D...... some examples : old Assen groove buildup works fine......the new "Assen no bump" don't build groove anymore :-\ .....Track like Croft you can do 50 laps on soft or hard tyres and nothing but on quali tyres you can see groove after 2 laps ;D i'm not complaining i'm just curious ;)
i think groove only generates with soft and qualify tires, and hard tires remove it. on new assen there is groove buildup, otherwise i couldn't do a high 2:13
Quote from: Alby46 on February 16, 2014, 12:44:27 PM
i think groove only generates with soft and qualify tires, and hard tires remove it. on new assen there is groove buildup, otherwise i couldn't do a high 2:13
Well thanks man.....but i just did like 30 laps on assen track 9 quali tires 990cc and no groove for me
Can you see shadows on assen? Maybe you have a problems with the groove too :P
Quote from: Arvoss on February 16, 2014, 01:01:21 PM
Can you see shadows on assen? Maybe you have a problems with the groove too :P
LOL yes i have shadows on Assen ...... ;D
Quote from: Abigor on February 16, 2014, 12:38:04 PM
Why is that on some track there is groove buildup and some don't have this? There are strange things with this "groove" ;D...... some examples : old Assen groove buildup works fine......the new "Assen no bump" don't build groove anymore :-\ .....Track like Croft you can do 50 laps on soft or hard tyres and nothing but on quali tyres you can see groove after 2 laps ;D i'm not complaining i'm just curious ;)
The reason is simple - the trp file of new Assen has no 'Surface' saved. The old one had it.
If Surface (in Tracked) is not generated and saved at a track you don't see the rubber but it builds up. You also can't save a groove file without surface.
Quote from: dibu on February 16, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: Abigor on February 16, 2014, 12:38:04 PM
Why is that on some track there is groove buildup and some don't have this? There are strange things with this "groove" ;D...... some examples : old Assen groove buildup works fine......the new "Assen no bump" don't build groove anymore :-\ .....Track like Croft you can do 50 laps on soft or hard tyres and nothing but on quali tyres you can see groove after 2 laps ;D i'm not complaining i'm just curious ;)
The reason is simple - the trp file of new Assen has no 'Surface' saved. The old one had it.
If Surface (in Tracked) is not generated and saved at a track you don't see the rubber but it builds up. You also can't save a groove file without surface.
Woooow!!!!! ok...ok..ok.......hmmm ...... :o does that's mean that nobody can see the groove on new assen but it builds up?
Yes, you only see tyre marks from hard breaking but no groove.
Rbp should release a new version with surface. You can do it yourself but it will end in an online data-mismatch if the server doesn't use your changed version.
Quote from: dibu on February 16, 2014, 01:23:28 PM
Yes, you only see tyre marks from hard breaking but no groove.
Rbp should release a new version with surface. You can do it yourself but it will end in an online data-mismatch if the server doesn't use your changed version.
OK ...thanks dibu :D
I've posted a message in RBp assen topic, so that he may have a look.
MaX.
Just to make things clear again. Grip builds up also without surface but the groove is not visible.
Quote from: dibu on February 16, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Just to make things clear again. Grip builds up also without surface but the groove is not visible.
Oh thx, I actually got it wrong, but it's clear now. To be fixed anyway.
MaX.
Been out all day and only just got back home, Never new about this groove thing so will sort thing out later in the week.
Quote from: dibu on February 16, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Just to make things clear again. Grip builds up also without surface but the groove is not visible.
There shouldn't be any grip increase without the generated surface.
Quote from: PiBoSo on February 17, 2014, 12:19:14 AM
There shouldn't be any grip increase without the generated surface.
Thanks for clearing. :)
In WRS and KRP I always had the impression that some grip was build up after a couple of laps on tracks without surface.
Placebo is greeting. ::)
Sorry it looks like a made another mistake :'( im still learning
How do I go about adding the groove thing? some one explane please?
I'll finish the track im smoothing now, move Assen pitboards closer to walls and add new camera set and then release all the tracks again. bit of a fu<k up.
I don't think the timing will be effected as t not another 3dmax export, but im sure until do it.
Quote from: RBp on February 17, 2014, 06:47:11 AM
How do I go about adding the groove thing? some one explane please?
http://tools.piboso.com/index.php?topic=7.msg15#msg15
Chapter: Generate Dynamic Surface
Don't forget to save before leaving Tracked.
Quote from: dibu on February 17, 2014, 06:30:34 AM
Quote from: PiBoSo on February 17, 2014, 12:19:14 AM
There shouldn't be any grip increase without the generated surface.
Thanks for clearing. :)
In WRS and KRP I always had the impression that some grip was build up after a couple of laps on tracks without surface.
Placebo is greeting. ::)
It's probably due to tyres temperature increase.
Quote from: dibu on February 17, 2014, 08:09:37 AM
Quote from: RBp on February 17, 2014, 06:47:11 AM
How do I go about adding the groove thing? some one explane please?
http://tools.piboso.com/index.php?topic=7.msg15#msg15
Chapter: Generate Dynamic Surface
Don't forget to save before leaving Tracked.
So just need to press generate surface and save, What a dumb mistake to make