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Hi! I'ts me again ;D

The A-7000 road, or better known as "Camino de Colmenar", is a 7.3km real country road located in a mountain range of Málaga, Spain. It is also part of a beautiful natural reserve about 12km from my home. This road has been used for rally events for several years and some petrolheads used to cruise it; let's call it the "Mulholland Drive" of Málaga.

Beta download: Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5lqhlp95oy5aeg5/A7000_v0.4b.rar)

Edit: Please, take in mind it is an early, early, early version of the mod. It could has some visual errors like trees with only one sided faces. As Piboso doesn't support timing for point-to-point tracks I've not registered the track in the official time boards. Have fun.

Some additional info of the route: Google Maps (https://www.google.es/maps/dir/36.7431662,-4.4109791/36.7704741,-4.375936/@36.7597519,-4.3985293,2782m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!4m3!1m0!1m0!3e0).
A video from a ride: Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4X5ZSqA-yM)

The track has been original made by liquido for Richard Burns Rally and later converted for rFactor. I've done a huge texture rework to improve the immersion feeling and be able to have a virtual ride, but I'm already awaiting to have permission from liquido to release. I must mention -and it is in sight- that it is plenty of armcos, ditchs, trees and close turns, so remember to ride happy and safe ;).

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Amazing work! I've been patiently waiting for tracks like this.  ;D

That looks absolutely amazing.......have a told you that i'm your biggest fan  :D

Looks great! 8)

Looks great BerScott! Eagerly awaiting it's release.  ;D 8)

MAgnifico.... Amazing!

That looks stunning great work

Great stuff BerScott !

Now we do need some naked bikes ! KTM 1290 anybody ? :)

MaX.

 ;D



Just joking

Not my kind of ...hmm, naked :)

MaX.

amazing!!

AWESOME  :D !!!

imagine you would import it to mxbikes and race with supermotos :o

Quote from: BerScott on April 23, 2014, 05:03:12 PM
;D



Just joking

LOL   ;D  , is that your idea of a naked?   ;D

Fantastic job Berscott, thank you man, hope you can have permission to use it.

tiene una pinta cojonuda

Looks amazing :O

Ow my god !! Love this !!!  :o

Looks wonderfull!! :)

great job

Wow, that looks sick. That would be the most beautiful road track in GP bikes i guess. Can somebody explain how a point to point track in GP bikes will work? Do you have to go to the pit at the end or something?

@iVolution PiBoSo tracks needs to set a centerline following the main road track path, the problem is that the centerline must be closed joining the start and end of the line. The only way to follow the track path and close the line is making a huge round with the line and joining the start/end (see picture).

The real main problem actually is that there's no way to record a "lap" time from a point to point track, because right now it is only possible to assign one start/finish single line unlike other sims where you are able tu place an independent line to start and finish respectively. But that doesn't mean that is impossible to make a ride from start to the end of the track, but you just can't record a complete lap time. I can solve this assign split time lines and have it as a reference for the timing.

For now the only solution is to ask PiBoSo if is it possible to add the option to make a centerline with the start and finish points in different places, same for the start/finish lines. As said, anyway you can ride the track and configure different pit places to make people start without crash one to other.

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Yes, the request for "linear" tracks (A to B) has already been made along ago.

One thing that could be funny, instead of the "long circle arc" to get back from point B (arrival) to point A (departure) would be to have the very same track as A to B, but moved slightly off and used the other way around.

Ultra-raw rewording: build the track A to B, copy it and paste it a little aside (so that  there are no intersections), obtaining a portion A' to B'. Now connect B with B' and A to A'.
When riding B' to A', you're actually riding the same road, the other way round.

Not sure how easy this is to do, but it's probably better than the "big arc". Mind, the track files could become too big.

MaX.

@HornetMaX I had the same idea but you wouldn't get a real uphill/downhill timing, you would get the sum of them. Also there's no much space to make a -turn manouver, only if you use "I" and "K" keys, and that would add lot of extra time.

I was thinking at something like this:

(http://imgur.com/3XVzxZ6)

Instead of having the big circle arc, you have a copy of the same A-B track.

Timing would still be an issue of course, partially solved using splits.

MaX.

That would mean to double the whole circuit. I barely can open and pack the main track in 3DS Max. I see that not possible :-\

Yeah, that was the (expected) problem. No biggie, we may have to wait for the proper solution or live with a "somehow boring" return trip :)

MaX.

Put a roundabout on each end and go back the way you came  ;D

WOW!!

Quote from: HornetMaX on April 25, 2014, 03:08:03 PM
I was thinking at something like this:

(http://imgur.com/3XVzxZ6)

Instead of having the big circle arc, you have a copy of the same A-B track.

Timing would still be an issue of course, partially solved using splits.

MaX.

Better like this.



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8)

My favorite one is the second version of Juju.

It's the only version where we don't have a "loop", so we will not race 2 time the same thing by lap.

Quote from: RiccoChicco on April 27, 2014, 12:51:50 PM
My favorite one is the second version of Juju.

It's the only version where we don't have a "loop", so we will not race 2 time the same thing by lap.

Well, in my version you don't race 2 times the same thing, as when you come back you ride it in the other direction, like on a real road.
As if once reached the end of the road you do a u-turn and ride back: same road, opposite direction.

In Juju's  1st version you ride twice an identical road, while in 2nd version when you ride back you ride on a different road: you ride the mirrored version of the road, in the opposite direction (not on the same road on opposite direction).

MaX.

oops, I need to sleep  ;D

Too much polys and resources, also don't forget that you would see the track doubled while riding. I think it is not a really good idea ::)

BTW, I finally have permission from liquido :)

Any chance of a release happening with this track? Been checking the forum more often lately due to the possibility this will be available. I love public road tracks.  ;D

Yes, I probably will release soon a beta version if you desire.

Awesome! The track looks like a ton of fun.  ;D

Yes ;we want!!   Amazing track  Berscott . Thank you for you work.  :)

a beta sounds good berscott :P

Q buena pinta tiene.

A news of this amazing track ???  ;D

:O AMAZING!!

Sorry about the lack of news, but seems that liquido and I we've turned a conversion request into a new complete project oriented to be a multiplatform! So the actual 7.3km road will turn into the complete 30km road (Malaga-Colmenar). In fact I will visit him today (as he lives really close to me) to see the new elevation data with a really close terrain resolution, and probably have some beers haha.

Cheers!

hahaha thats how good projects come up, beer  ;D

The beer is more important  8)    Thank for the news. 

I just came back from a week of drinking school excursion in Barcelona/Tossa de Mar.
If all roads in Spain are like that, I will have to move there, once I finished school :D

Quote from: vin97 on June 07, 2014, 04:48:21 PM
I just came back from a week of drinking school excursion in Barcelona/Tossa de Mar.
If all roads in Spain are like that, I will have to move there, once I finished school :D

If you can stretch it till south of France, try the "moyenne corniche" (Nice --> Montecarlo, most of the driving license point I've ever lost I lost them there) and the "Route Napoleon" (Grasse --> Gorges du Verdun). As a worthy contender, Cannes - St. Raphael (one way via the RN 7, on the way back on the "RN 98 route du bord de mer"): so many bikes during the nice season that even the cops just close their eyes ... once I was "stuck" behind them and they signalled with one hand that I was allowed to pass them: 20 seconds after me, 4 1000cc japs passed them too at blazing speed and one of them wheeling !

MaX.

Haha, thanks for the tipp :D

Awesome track!

No news beer??

Quote from: vash on July 16, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
No news beer??

Yes, we are looking to make the track laser scanned and we have aimed at the right tools for that. So seems that the project will turn more serious than expected :)

Wow, how much will that cost?
Maybe first start with the conversion.

Cool beer ;;thank for the reply

Wow, laser scaned   :o
Hope someday Gpb can manage well enough real road bumps.
It doesn't in beta5. The laser scaned track can be amazing, but useless if the bike crash every bump. Hope beta6 improve this behaviour.

I got oran park which is laser scanned, and er yeah  :-X

Quote from: vin97 on July 17, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Wow, how much will that cost?

About 300€ per day for 2mm resolution, if I remember well. I must talk with my mate to get more details, it has been discovered by him, so I can't give so much more details. He showed me the web page with all the details and just 5min later we started to open beer cans and other stuff ::)

Quote from: vin97 on July 17, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Maybe first start with the conversion.

Right, I promissed an early beta some time ago, so why not?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/5lqhlp95oy5aeg5/A7000_v0.4b.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5lqhlp95oy5aeg5/A7000_v0.4b.rar)

I can't get it to load. Just says Connected then GP Bikes will crash.

Quote from: Klax75 on July 17, 2014, 06:28:23 PM
I can't get it to load. Just says Connected then GP Bikes will crash.

Dito crashes on load

dont even see it in the list .

It actually works for me in the last beta. Have I missed something with the new beta about adding something new to make tracks work or something? I have just done a new clean install and it works.

Quote from: BerScott on July 17, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
It actually works for me in the last beta. Have I missed something with the new beta about adding something new to make tracks work or something? I have just done a new clean install and it works.

You have GFX settings high or low? i have everything maxed out.

After it crashed for me, then I tried any other track that crashed too. So I had to make new profiles, to be able to ride again. Hmm something in this track doesn't like me.

Quote from: GhostdogNL on July 17, 2014, 06:50:52 PM
dont even see it in the list .

Which list? you mean the track pulldown menu? its not called A7000 but Montes de Malaga

Quote from: PeterV on July 17, 2014, 08:01:25 PM
You have GFX settings high or low? i have everything maxed out.

I have everything maxed out except for AA and anisotropic which are set out at x4.

Quote from: Klax75 on July 17, 2014, 08:04:38 PM
After it crashed for me, then I tried any other track that crashed too. So I had to make new profiles, to be able to ride again. Hmm something in this track doesn't like me.

So does it work after make a new profile?

Quote from: BerScott on July 17, 2014, 08:08:25 PM

Quote from: PeterV on July 17, 2014, 08:01:25 PM
You have GFX settings high or low? i have everything maxed out.

I have everything maxed out except for AA and anisotropic which are set out at x4.

Set AA and Antistrophic to 4, same result crashes.

Brilliant track  ;D  bit of a bugger to get moving when resting sometimes (rolling off to the side of the road) but only in a couple of places. Otherwise a great little ride

For those who can't play this track, like me, put off these two files from the A7000 folder:
maxrace.tl   and   minrace.tl

The centerline is probably not closed
The startline goes across the universe :)

If you want i have done a new centerline ending, not in the vacuum because the game doesn't like it, i placed 4 pit places and 4 start places, you will see that's a bit strange but we never can make race no track like this because it's not a closed track, i have done new speedtrapline and new split time doors.
Look at this and see.

Thank you for this track, it's really good but really hard. First i ride on it, my time is 4min28s, some little jumps need to be smoothed but all seems good. Thank you for this hillclimb track.


link for little changes:(put the 2 files in the A 7000 track folder an replace the existants)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dlsqed169uvdcgz/A7000_to_change.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/dlsqed169uvdcgz/A7000_to_change.zip)

wow this track is just awesome  :o. And it can be played fast (I tested it with the 996) without an every turn falling.
thanks a lot for this track, look forward to some online session on it  ;D

THANK YOU Ber ;; amazing track; Really good and hard,great job

Good job!
Sometimes i can't reset the bike.
However no core exe for me aniso set to 2 and all hight.
Also it would be good to start the track not behind the truck lol :)

great road, thank you a lot for the work dude!
nice place to have fun with the fz6!!! ;) love this bike too btw

Quote from: capeta on July 18, 2014, 08:16:10 AM
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Also it would be good to start the track not behind the truck lol :)

If you have tried the janaucarre new files, get back to the original ones and try again.

Thanks for the hint ;)

Are the files i changed making the start behind the truck? If yes i didńt upload the right folder, thatls strange because i have only originals andwith mine i start near the start line.

Me too;with the Janau UPdate, i start the race behind the truck ,;,and my lap time is not start...

Quote from: PeterV on July 17, 2014, 08:06:34 PM

Quote from: GhostdogNL on July 17, 2014, 06:50:52 PM
dont even see it in the list .

Which list? you mean the track pulldown menu? its not called A7000 but Montes de Malaga

oooow thnx Peter  :P ::)

I deleted the maxrace.tl  and  minrace.tl and replaced the two files with the ones janaucarre made, i still cant get it too load. it crashes on loading.

I have this also on the track Jerez. (these are the only two that give problems)

Jerez????? How can it be???? Do you have a little pc configuration?

Quote from: janaucarre on July 19, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
Jerez????? How can it be???? Do you have a little pc configuration?

Did you click my signature?

are you alone with that jerez problem?
Can you play online, not you the hoster?
I remember some people who can't play some tracks offline, with very high number of polys, but who can play online on a server.

I haven't seen your config before, Iphone is to small. Good pc but only one thing strange: the low frequency of your RAM.

Quote from: janaucarre on July 19, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
are you alone with that jerez problem?
Can you play online, not you the hoster?
I remember some people who can't play some tracks offline, with very high number of polys, but who can play online on a server.

I haven't seen your config before, Iphone is to small. Good pc but only one thing strange: the low frequency of your RAM.

Cant play the Jerez track it also crashes on load just as the A7000. So no online and offline i never driven it.

If im right i think Jamoz could not play Jerez as well, he has a GTX 780 card as well.

The ram frequency has to be counted twice....799x2=1600, it is not shown as double rated with Speccy

Quote from: janaucarre on July 19, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
are you alone with that jerez problem?
Can you play online, not you the hoster?

Oke just tested it.

- Launched my own dedi server with Jerez track.
- Connected from same pc through launching GPbikes - World - Servername - connect.
- I could join and drive

If i do a test session on Jerez it crashes on loadup.

I also did the same procedure for the A7000 track, launching my own dedi server and also a test session
but that still crashes on loadup both times.

Ok, for jerez it's a size problem, perhaps your hdd cache(don't know in english) memory is to small, jerez is composef by more than 500 000 polygons.
For A7000 it´s perhaps the same problem but im going to reupload my personnal files, and i hope it will works for you and other. Before that i post the new laguna seca entirely remastered.:)

Here is the link for the exactly same A700 track as mine, i come on the track near the start line and not rear the truck, backup you other A7000 version and replace by mine. Say to me if it works not:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y1go7gnbbr4z0jq/A7000_jan2_modified.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/y1go7gnbbr4z0jq/A7000_jan2_modified.zip)

Quote from: janaucarre on July 19, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Here is the link for the exactly same A700 track as mine, i come on the track near the start line and not rear the truck, backup you other A7000 version and replace by mine. Say to me if it works not:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y1go7gnbbr4z0jq/A7000_jan2_modified.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/y1go7gnbbr4z0jq/A7000_jan2_modified.zip)

Now it works, ty Janaucarre. Good job on that track by the author(s)

 :o I just now found this, and grabbed the latest beta and the WSS600 bike set, and all I can say is with the GSXR600 singing along through the hills I am in love, this is once again my favorite sim of all time. Thank you to everyone who put work into this track! It is fantastic!

Fantástico trabajo!!!  ;)

Just perfect. Great job

Keep getting a core crash on the latest beta when I try to watch a replay, is that track related?  ???

This track has no track cameras so you can't watch a replay other then Orbit view. Same with Ulster GP.

¡Que pasada! Muchas gracias!

Great work really fun track!  :)

Which version should I use? januacarre's link or this one in first post?

Anyway, good track. Hope to see final version.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I remember, this is not a closed road track, it is open point to point road?

Hawk.

Seems it's point-to-point track. But there are two links for this track.

I did a loop with this track to be playable in gpbikes,  its not beautiful but we can use it

could you upload that version?


it's a very nice 'track' and definitely something different.

Quote from: The unknown modder on January 26, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
I did a loop with this track to be playable in gpbikes,  its not beautiful but we can use it

If you upload that version and send me a download link I'll put it in the track database as long as we can actually race on it.  ;)

Hawk.

thxs great job