Seven days and waiting is over.bye bye piboso :)
7 days and bye bye -aGy- ;)
You're comparing apples to bitcoin.
Looking forward to trying TDR too though. :)
what i see in the few video is that graphic is not good as Milestonne moto gp, and in the other side physic is not better than gpbikes :-\ ! but it is just my impression on the video, as chris said, looking forward to test it ....
Having been part of the beta I can safely say Piboso hasn't got anything to worry about other than a lack of social media/online presence.
That's what I figured too. Two very different creatures.
Not sure what TDR will bring to the table to compete with Milestone other than VR support.
I find it hard to believe that they will come close to the physics complexity of GP-bikes using Unity.
Not saying that won't be fun though. Arcade racers have their charm too.
Sorry but it looks gimmicly to me.........scooters, minibikes and little tracks??? I want REAL MOTORBIKES not toys so not for me.
Piboso still rules the roost lol
But I wish them all the best and hope folks enjoy it
Besides I need real physics n VR baby
This be home for me
DD
No gimmicks and it's not bad. Just not like GP Bikes.
It's a lot more along the lines of Ride, Fun just not as high level.
Modding is possible but unless you are fluent in Unity it's a ballache.
Thanks for the info Matty.
I will HAVE to try it to make sure my systems work in it so got no choice lol
DD
Quote from: -aGy- on March 10, 2021, 07:54:56 AMSeven days and waiting is over.bye bye piboso :)
See you !! Noone is gonna miss you, arcade face
Quote from: Pableke46 on March 11, 2021, 11:21:41 PMQuote from: -aGy- on March 10, 2021, 07:54:56 AMSeven days and waiting is over.bye bye piboso :)
See you !! Noone is gonna miss you, arcade face
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closes on exit, mate.
Sad to hear that words from one who played this game since first betas, u are not a kid maybe u should think in start to mature a bit.
Quote from: lluisete on March 12, 2021, 11:18:15 AMSad to hear that words from one who played this game since first betas, u are not a kid maybe u should think in start to mature a bit.
Well said
I want to see GP Bike on Steam more, than TrackDayR on scooters.
Im sorry but MOTORCYCLE racing does not involve little scooters and kiddy mini bikes. This aspect makes it just a game and not a serious motorcycle simulation.
Just my opinion after riding my whole life
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 12, 2021, 07:08:00 PMIm sorry but MOTORCYCLE racing does not involve little scooters and kiddy mini bikes. This aspect makes it just a game and not a serious motorcycle simulation.
Just my opinion after riding my whole life
DD
Wow so you think that a product is a simulator or just a game by the content it has, instead of its physics and mechanics...
No.. it is just my opinion. I will try it but dont like paying for content I hate.
Sorry but I hate scooters and stupid minibikes as an adult and bike rider all my life. It is my personal choice is all.
As I said I wish them all the best it is just not for me personally with such content.
DD
Ok I respect your opinion, but I wouldn't see those categories of bikes as a bonus content and not something you are spending money on.
It is like not buying or buying not willingly a flight simulator just because there are general aviation aircraft and not only airliners.
ten hours dudes. piboso i wish you well and I hope you get the game done in this century.a pity in itself because the game had potential but of course when you have 10 games to finish its not going to ever work this way. but its your way.I wish everyone good and maybe see you on the track at TrackDayR
I know it is early access but not how to get it. I need to get TDR to test it will work with my control systems for others.
Still sticking with GPB as cant beat the VR and so much content and community.
DD
£17 aint too bad but yet to see what I get lol
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EDIT: WTF is with the bloody music I cant turn of that just goes on and on and on and.............. Out the gate I hate that simple fact
So it recognises my controller but do you think it will let me assign anything? NO it has desided all controls are Z!!! woteva that means so now I think I may have to just get my money back and not impressed at all!!!
I need support but not got any so think before I use it too much will ask for a refund as it will just be a waste of money if I cant use it!!!
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 17, 2021, 11:24:23 AM£17 aint too bad but yet to see what I get lol
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EDIT: WTF is with the bloody music I cant turn of that just goes on and on and on and.............. Out the gate I hate that simple fact
So it recognises my controller but do you think it will let me assign anything? NO it has desided all controls are Z!!! woteva that means so now I think I may have to just get my money back and not impressed at all!!!
I need support but not got any so think before I use it too much will ask for a refund as it will just be a waste of money if I cant use it!!!
Thank you for the feed on the music, you are not the only one. For the controller please don't rush, we are open to help you on the Discord as we never used a custom controller
Thanks I have offered many time to help on this but had no reply.
It seems on Discord it could be a steam config issue
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 17, 2021, 12:19:02 PMThanks I have offered many time to help on this but had no reply.
It seems on Discord it could be a steam config issue
Ok I hope that is the problem. We are sorry for not accepting your help, but at the moment there are more important things to develop on the game
Thanks ILPAV...........we are chatting on discord now so take it from there
DD
After spending time chatting to ILPAV on discord.......I have to at least say there was someone to talk to about issues and that is a big plus.
Will make a video to show my problem and hope to help TDR in direct input setup.
DD
Ahahahah, sorry man but you have got to be kidding with that game.
Is there some "realistic physics mode" setting I haven't found?
tried tdr and its not good
Got it from Steam, yeah... lots of basic things still missing, like a clutch! Lots of gfx bugs/glitches, sound issues and a host of other problems. This is NOT a 1.XXX... release if you ask me. Alpha, perhaps a very early beta would be a better description.
Physics feel very arcady and rudimentary.
My main issues (without going into the motorcycle physics):
* Can't resize/turn off any hud elements (they are huge and obstruct your view when trying to look ahead through corners).
* The camera view options are mostly just weird. And they reset if you go into photo mode or back to the pits menu, so I'll have to cycle through them again to get to the FPV I use.
* Camera views are not adjustable.
* Sound... it's as loud when you ride the bike as it is when you crash and the bike gets further away from you.
* No clutch...
* No Edtracker or IR track support (as far as I can tell).
* Loads of GFX glitches, helmet parts popping up and disappearing depending on the riders view position, the other bike's (your on-track track-day buddy/ghost) middle section disappears, rider floats in the air when standing up after a crash and so on.
* GFX are not good, has this mobile game feeling to it (lack of shadows might be the main cause of that?).
* No weather choices.
* Limited nr of tracks/bikes (they are saying more will come in future upgrades).
I'm not gonna bother refunding, the game didn't cost that much and I collect bike games anyway (think I have all of them, even the most obscure ones), but to say that there is room for improvement is an understatement.
Cheers,
/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
SO... TDR... A lot of hype and not a lot of execution.
As it stands right now my favourite part of TDR is falling off.
The game should be free at the moment like a preview style thing a bit like GPB.
I honestly disappointed with just about everything on TDR.
Was not a good idea to have released it yet.
I am sorry if any of those guys are in these forums but I got a refund,
I may purchase again at a later date if I see SIGNIFICANT progress.
Quote from: -aGy- on March 17, 2021, 03:56:55 PMtried tdr and its not good
Welcome back!! :D
We missed you.
Well Im in two minds of thought but I believe in giving anyone a chance:
Give it a min and you will know why.
I learnt a lot talking to the devs
I am a fair person not a trumpist
DD
Ahahaahahaha
cant change any g29 bindings..i dont want to play with gamepads..did they test this before release?
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 17, 2021, 08:56:28 PMWell Im in two minds of thought but I believe in giving anyone a chance:
Give it a min and you will know why.
I learnt a lot talking to the devs
I am a fair person not a trumpist
DD
im glad but lets be fair.they should tested it more.its not acceptable that we cant use g29.ps4 gamepad works ok but g29 not.tryed ds4/ce360x but no.
New video coming and not looking good right now.......shame as I do not wish bad luck on anyone who at least trys to make a sim for bikes.
DD
Playing devil's advocate here but what concept of "Early Access" is difficult to grasp? Remember GP Bikes build 1 or build 2? It is a problem there is no demo, yes. You may wait until v1.00, like myself, and peruse user feedback or take a chance and try it out in a 2-hour window. Regarding other commentary going around, constructive feedback about riding mechanics and even content is the best way to communicate and incite change.
Quote from: Guigafumi on March 19, 2021, 04:22:26 AMPlaying devil's advocate here but what concept of "Early Access" is difficult to grasp? Remember GP Bikes build 1 or build 2? It is a problem there is no demo, yes. You may wait until v1.00, like myself, and peruse user feedback or take a chance and try it out in a 2-hour window. Regarding other commentary going around, constructive feedback about riding mechanics and even content is the best way to communicate and incite change.
I agree for the most part.
But I think sometimes you can put a title into early access
TOO EARLY, where it leaves a bad taste preventing people coming back at a later date.
I'd reccomend watching Soviet Wombles vod on the DayZ situation. It's focused on DayZ but applies to other games.
Quote from: Myst1cPrun3 on March 19, 2021, 08:00:07 AMQuote from: Guigafumi on March 19, 2021, 04:22:26 AMPlaying devil's advocate here but what concept of "Early Access" is difficult to grasp? Remember GP Bikes build 1 or build 2? It is a problem there is no demo, yes. You may wait until v1.00, like myself, and peruse user feedback or take a chance and try it out in a 2-hour window. Regarding other commentary going around, constructive feedback about riding mechanics and even content is the best way to communicate and incite change.
I agree for the most part.
But I think sometimes you can put a title into early access TOO EARLY, where it leaves a bad taste preventing people coming back at a later date.
I'd reccomend watching Soviet Wombles vod on the DayZ situation. It's focused on DayZ but applies to other games.
The video makes a lot of good points, but does it apply to a niche ( motorcycle road racing games ) where at the moment there only are 3 developers publishing 4 games ( MotoGP, Ride, TT and TrackDayR ) total?
Maybe layer this year Rims Racing will join the party, but still not an overcrowded market, unlike the "survival" genre.
Motorcycle enthusiasts will probably come back even if they got a bad first impression.
Quote from: PiBoSo on March 19, 2021, 11:14:19 AMMotorcycle enthusiasts will probably come back even if they got a bad first impression.
The thing is TDR is simply not a game for motorcycle enthusiasts. It is a bad milestone clone.
You, PiBoSo, will probably forever remain the only guy who is capable of making a true motorcycle simulation for enthusiasts.
I know you want to add more content for a Steam release but if you just put the Varese and Mura back in (which btw still work great in the newest beta), it would already be enough.
Just make it clear that GPB is primarily a modding platform and I think today's users will be smart enough to understand.
I started with alpha 7 and even then it was brilliant as far as controller input and physics were.
I will help TDR crew as I have to make my systems work in it, BUT there is no way it will get near GPB for years.
I commend them for the work and to at least try to do what they can. It is a very hard thing to do right.
They need to realise certain things are demanding the use of a gamepad and that on its own is not good. The need to evolve and some help understanding certain things.
We will see
DD
Quote from: PiBoSo on March 19, 2021, 11:14:19 AMQuote from: Myst1cPrun3 on March 19, 2021, 08:00:07 AMQuote from: Guigafumi on March 19, 2021, 04:22:26 AMPlaying devil's advocate here but what concept of "Early Access" is difficult to grasp? Remember GP Bikes build 1 or build 2? It is a problem there is no demo, yes. You may wait until v1.00, like myself, and peruse user feedback or take a chance and try it out in a 2-hour window. Regarding other commentary going around, constructive feedback about riding mechanics and even content is the best way to communicate and incite change.
I agree for the most part.
But I think sometimes you can put a title into early access TOO EARLY, where it leaves a bad taste preventing people coming back at a later date.
I'd reccomend watching Soviet Wombles vod on the DayZ situation. It's focused on DayZ but applies to other games.
The video makes a lot of good points, but does it apply to a niche ( motorcycle road racing games ) where at the moment there only are 3 developers publishing 4 games ( MotoGP, Ride, TT and TrackDayR ) total?
Maybe layer this year Rims Racing will join the party, but still not an overcrowded market, unlike the "survival" genre.
Motorcycle enthusiasts will probably come back even if they got a bad first impression.
That's very true.
Like you said it is uncrowded, and in general most of the motorcycle gaming community tend to request the same things from most titles.
Whichever title gets closest to that remains to be seen, but an early access title that is far away from it may not 100% recover.
Okey dokey.............
So been playing around and yep controller input will need work for generick systems, BUT I tink oi got it aworkin..........
Hope this helps the devs:
Hoping to ride the R1/M1 siton in it if even to just test setup as it is not infront of gaming screen.
Still a GPB fanboy but willing to help others
DD
EDIT:
Just did first test and??????? WHAT is steering and Leaning as leaning kind of steers the bike and steering is doing nothing????? I am VERY confused now HELP!!!
So I am SOOOO pissed off after hours of the fucking intro and menu music I am not gonna bother to work on this until they allow us to turn the fucking repetetive shit OFF!!!v Sorry but after 4 hours of the same shit I am done with it!!!
i realise that i was using old x360ce program.. :o now with new x360ce g29 finally works
Good to hear aGy
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by the way i change some lines in streamingassets/camera/helmetcam.bse if somebody want to test. "posY": 0.145, "rotX": -15.0, "fov": 85.0, "farClipping":4000.0, dont know what farclipping does..maybe graphical thing..also you can modify streamingassets\bikeini\handle-675r.bse nad change these lines "SmoothAngle":100.0, "MovingSpeed":0.0,
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 21, 2021, 09:40:45 AMGood to hear aGy
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thanks to you and your video..when i watched your video last night i realized that i have an old program in use. :D
Quote from: -aGy- on March 21, 2021, 10:26:45 AMby the way i change some lines in streamingassets/camera/helmetcam.bse if somebody want to test. "posY": 0.145, "rotX": -15.0, "fov": 85.0, "farClipping":4000.0, dont know what farclipping does..maybe graphical thing..
far clipping is typically used to define the max distance from the camera, for any object to be visible in the viewport. Anything farther than that is rejected and not processed for rendering.
Perhaps you can use lower values to shorten the drawing depth of the scene, in order to increase perfomance. (if that's an issue of cource, and there is no such option in the menu)
Quote from: infected247 on March 21, 2021, 11:44:49 AMQuote from: -aGy- on March 21, 2021, 10:26:45 AMby the way i change some lines in streamingassets/camera/helmetcam.bse if somebody want to test. "posY": 0.145, "rotX": -15.0, "fov": 85.0, "farClipping":4000.0, dont know what farclipping does..maybe graphical thing..
far clipping is typically used to define the max distance from the camera, for any object to be visible in the viewport. Anything farther than that is rejected and not processed for rendering.
Perhaps you can use lower values to shorten the drawing depth of the scene, in order to increase perfomance. (if that's an issue of cource, and there is no such option in the menu)
yes i think so too
Quote from: -aGy- on March 10, 2021, 07:54:56 AMSeven days and waiting is over.bye bye piboso :)
Quote from: -aGy- on March 17, 2021, 07:42:11 AMten hours dudes. piboso i wish you well and I hope you get the game done in this century.a pity in itself because the game had potential but of course when you have 10 games to finish its not going to ever work this way. but its your way.I wish everyone good and maybe see you on the track at TrackDayR
Quote from: -aGy- on March 17, 2021, 03:56:55 PMtried tdr and its not good
i lol'd
Sorry but you can not beat GPBikes...........period!!!
DD
Quote from: iNsane on March 22, 2021, 11:01:16 AMQuote from: -aGy- on March 10, 2021, 07:54:56 AMSeven days and waiting is over.bye bye piboso :)
Quote from: -aGy- on March 17, 2021, 07:42:11 AMten hours dudes. piboso i wish you well and I hope you get the game done in this century.a pity in itself because the game had potential but of course when you have 10 games to finish its not going to ever work this way. but its your way.I wish everyone good and maybe see you on the track at TrackDayR
Quote from: -aGy- on March 17, 2021, 03:56:55 PMtried tdr and its not good
i lol'd
when i first tryed g29 didnt work so its not good. but i make it to work so its ok..your problem is?
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 22, 2021, 11:33:18 AMSorry but you can not beat GPBikes...........period!!!
DD
physics wise but that's it. same engine(15years) multiplayer is lagging etc etc...and of course very very very slow development
Quote from: iNsane on March 22, 2021, 11:01:16 AMi lol'd
It is a very lolable chain of statements.
I am intrigued.. What it is that keeps mr.-aGy- here now that the G29 works?
Quote from: -aGy- on March 22, 2021, 11:41:50 AMQuote from: doubledragoncc on March 22, 2021, 11:33:18 AMSorry but you can not beat GPBikes...........period!!!
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physics wise but that's it. same engine(15years) multiplayer is lagging etc etc...and of course very very very slow development
When was last time you played gpb? Mp isn't laggy at all btw
Track day r isn't a bad game.
But gp bikes is THE game!
PiBoSo forever :RÉ
GPB is NOT a game!!! It is a simulation, there is a massive differance.
It is also the ONLY sim that fully supports direct controller input without additional software needed. It has a means to adjust the controller inputs and allows far mor than ANY game on the market for bikes does.
I am a GPB slut lol
I do hope TDR sorts out its problems but it is new, just like GPB was once. Give them time and I am sure they will learn by mistakes and player input for the future.
DD
Quote from: VSMaster on March 22, 2021, 02:14:15 PMQuote from: -aGy- on March 22, 2021, 11:41:50 AMQuote from: doubledragoncc on March 22, 2021, 11:33:18 AMSorry but you can not beat GPBikes...........period!!!
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physics wise but that's it. same engine(15years) multiplayer is lagging etc etc...and of course very very very slow development
When was last time you played gpb? Mp isn't laggy at all btw
maybe two years ago..good if its fixed. if piboso had focused gpb only it could have been the game everyone wants to play. i mean simulation! but now its just like prototype...never finished.sad but true.i love the game but 10years and two official tracks...modders cant even finish ulster gp (or am I wrong?) which is very very sad but its not pibosos fault. its my opinion and thats all. maybe I'll come back if the number of players goes up a lot but now there is only few players at the same time so its not fun to do hotlaps.
Quote from: -aGy- on April 05, 2021, 07:29:45 AMmaybe two years ago..good if its fixed. if piboso had focused gpb only it could have been the game everyone wants to play. i mean simulation! but now its just like prototype...never finished.sad but true.i love the game but 10years and two official tracks...modders cant even finish ulster gp (or am I wrong?) which is very very sad but its not pibosos fault. its my opinion and thats all. maybe I'll come back if the number of players goes up a lot but now there is only few players at the same time so its not fun to do hotlaps.
There has been another track released officially, and a lot of new tracks are currently over on discord. As for the Ulster no that is not finished, but it isn't something people seem to be interested in honestly :(
There have been a bunch of full lobbies recently, although its still not even as many as when I started just 3 years ago, but its coming back now it seems.
Road track on gpb is the dream. Ulster is just too low quality, but I'd really like to ride on any road track like those
Quote from: VSMaster on April 05, 2021, 08:40:16 PMRoad track on gpb is the dream. Ulster is just too low quality, but I'd really like to ride on any road track like those
olivers mount is in but if you mean something fast for road racing, id say the NW200 or southern100 would be perfect
Quote from: VSMaster on April 05, 2021, 08:40:16 PMRoad track on gpb is the dream. Ulster is just too low quality, but I'd really like to ride on any road track like those
I may look into it if it's wanted. I want to get into trying tracks anyway as I've only ever (semi-successfully mind you) ;D
Ulster is boring anyway. Nordschleife all the way.
Targa Florio or that one Pacfici Coast track from AC would be epic.
Quote from: Vini on April 06, 2021, 02:32:52 PMUlster is boring anyway. Nordschleife all the way.
Targa Florio or that one Pacfici Coast track from AC would be epic.
if you think men going upwards of 200 mph on public roads such as the ulster is boring then i wonder how you think the nordschleife is good. Ive already got a hatred for you but this has probably pushed it to the line mate.
Ulster is WAY better than Nord. For motorcycles at least.
Tbh a decent version in GP Bikes would be good, as the 'current' version is not even recognisable in comparison
Corners are always more fun than flat-out straights. We are not talking about real life here. That said, the Nordschleife straight would allow for similar speeds.
...And calm down irish boy.
Quote from: Myst1cPrun3 on April 06, 2021, 02:52:43 PMUlster is WAY better than Nord. For motorcycles at least.
EASY is the word you are looking for.
Quote from: Vini on April 06, 2021, 04:36:27 PMQuote from: Myst1cPrun3 on April 06, 2021, 02:52:43 PMUlster is WAY better than Nord. For motorcycles at least.
EASY is the word you are looking for.
I wouldn't say Ulster is easier than the Nord.
In GP bikes it totally is however, as the current Ulster is,
lacking, and that's putting it nicely.
Irl I'd say it's a whole new set of challenges. Possibly comparable in difficulty but for different reasons.
Ulster also gives great motorcycle races too. ;)