http://majornelson.com/2014/06/05/pc-drivers-for-the-xbox-one-controller-available-now/
As soon as I read the news, I stormed out to buy a controller.
Installed the drivers, linked the controller to the PC using a usb to micro-usb cable and it works perfectly.
The XInput plugin recognizes it.
Pros:
- the sticks are more precise around the center, less deadzone required
- the sticks have almost square output! woot!!!
Cons:
- the back buttons have a worse feeling
- the triggers use "softer" springs
Overall, the feeling is about the same as the previous one.
Considering the better sticks, it should be the new controller of choice for GP Bikes and MX Bikes, if a FF steering wheel is not available.
How much are they? I was hoping for stiffer springs to be honest haha
Talking of controllers.. Is it possible to map left and right trigger to work at the same time? So I can blip the throttle when on the brakes..
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2014, 11:37:35 AM
Talking of controllers.. Is it possible to map left and right trigger to work at the same time? So I can blip the throttle when on the brakes..
It is possible using the XInput plugin: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=95.0
Nice 1 ;)
yeah i use the xinput plugin for the same reason ( and to wheelie with the zip :D )
Also as a worthy alternative the PS4 controller is fully compatible with windows 7 and 8 and you do not even have to load a specific driver for it to work. Just plug it in to your pc using a usb cable and off you go.. gpbikes recognises it and you can easily map all the control inputs you require including the analogue thumbsticks and triggers without any problems.. I tested it last night on gpbikes and it works perfectly.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176263-how-to-use-a-dualshock-4-to-play-pc-games
In terms of quality I personally think it is just as good as the xbox one controller and it has a similar feel to it. I think if you happen to also own a PS4 this is definitely worth trying.
I also have an xbox one controller with me at the moment and strangely I couldn't get it to work under my windows 7 32 bit OS. I successfully downloaded and installed the x.86 version of the software driver but windows for some strange reason fails to initialise the controller. It's recognised as an xbox one controller in the device manager but there is an exclamation mark next to it reporting the initialisation failure... I tried it 4 or 5 times and reinstalled the software driver but was met with exactly the same result each time. It's not the xbox one controller at fault here because it is brand new and works perfectly with my friend's xbox one console. Any ideas?
As I say both controllers feel really nice and actually feel quite similar. However I personally don't think in terms of "feel" they are that much more advanced than my xbox 360 wired controller.. I think the xbox 360 joypad is still a formidable option for pc gaming.
As a matter of interest I run "tournament" quality "mushroom" thumbsticks on my xbox controller which provide extra grip and have a great feel to them. The material on the dome of the stick is ultra sticky and you can "hold" the edge of the dome of the stick if you choose to without any fear of your thumb slipping off.. I think similar mod.s like this are becoming available for the xbox one and PS4 controller now.
As a matter of interest PiBoSo do you feel that the best option of all for gpbikes is arguably a good quality force feedback wheel and pedals? Based upon you comment above. Clearly this all comes down to personal preference but I found your comment interesting.
grT :)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 12:16:16 PM
As a matter of interest PiBoSo do you feel that the best option of all for gpbikes is arguably a good quality force feedback wheel and pedals? Based upon you comment above. Clearly this all comes down to personal preference but I found your comment interesting.
A force feedback steering wheel gives a lot more input accuracy and outputs a meaningful force.
Thanks PiBoSo. I am convinced of the same thing.
grT ;)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 12:16:16 PM
I also have an xbox one controller with me at the moment and strangely I couldn't get it to work under my windows 7 32 bit OS. I successfully downloaded and installed the x.86 version of the software driver but windows for some strange reason fails to initialise the controller. It's recognised as an xbox one controller in the device manager but there is an exclamation mark next to it reporting the initialisation failure... I tried it 4 or 5 times and reinstalled the software driver but was met with exactly the same result each time. It's not the xbox one controller at fault here because it is brand new and works perfectly with my friend's xbox one console. Any ideas?
Here's the solution. I do updates manually. An important and recent Windows 7 update that I had not yet installed allows windows to initiate the xbox one controller. That's all it was.
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/27fog1/psa_for_the_new_xbox_one_controller_drivers_how/
"I've noticed that since the drivers for the Xbox One controller have been released, numerous users have experienced an issue with them.
If after you install the drivers and plug your controller in and it doesn't work, you most likely have an error code 37 under the device in device manager. It tells you "Windows cannot initialize the device driver for this hardware. (Code 37)"
I'm not sure what this means, but I can tell you how to fix it.
All you need to do is go through Windows Update and update Windows 7 ONLY! You don't need to do the updates for anything else. Update it, then do a restart and your controller should work fine!
Hope this helps!"
grT
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 07, 2014, 11:03:10 AM
- the sticks are more precise around the center, less deadzone required
- the sticks have almost square output! woot!!!
Square output ? Yeah man !!
Order being sent out tight now !!
Thx for the info !
MaX.
P.S.
@grT: you should ALWAYS do updates of windows. If you don't like them to be automatic (I don't), just remember to manually update once a week.
A few questions:
There's only a wireless version right ? But does it work wired too (i.e. if connected with the cable, no wireless connection is necessary) ?What has one to buy to use in on PC ? Just the vanilla one or the one with "Play & Charge Kit" ?- @PIBOSO: any plan to use the impulse triggers for some additional feedback ?
EDIT: got the answers for questions 1 and 2 : http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/connect-charge-cable-to-controller (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/connect-charge-cable-to-controller)
Can work as wired (even without batteries), it only needs an USB to micro-USB cable.
Question 3 stands ;D
MaX.
Well I've just tried out the xbox one controller on gpbikes. I'm impressed. With "direct lean" on it feels noticeably more controllable to me than how gpbikes feels with the xbox 360 pad. I seem to be able to control the handling of the bikes more easily exiting a bend and returning the bike to vertical. I'm not getting as muddled with the steering control in quick changes of direction left to right, right to left either in the "mid point" of the thumbstick's travel. So the "direct lean" on setting seems easier to manage to me when using the xbox one pad. This I think makes the option of using "direct lean" on with a joypad a more viable option for me. It feels a bit easier..
The PS4 pad is also very good. But I think I do prefer the feel of the xbox one pad. Also I prefer the more familiar positioning of the left thumbstick coming from having used an xbox 360 controller in the past. It's a cool pad..
I have been offered the xbox one pad for £25 by my friend (he bought it as an extra pad to play Titanfall with on split screen..but when Titanfall came out it didn't provide a split-screen option).
So I reckon it's worth having..
grT ;)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
Well I've just tried out the xbox one controller on gpbikes. I'm impressed. With "direct lean" on it feels noticeably more controllable to me than how gpbikes feels with the xbox 360 pad. I seem to be able to control the handling of the bikes more easily exiting a bend and returning the bike to vertical. I'm not getting as muddled with the steering control in quick changes of direction left to right, right to left either in the "mid point" of the thumbstick's travel. So the "direct lean" on setting seems easier to manage to me when using the xbox one pad. This I think makes the option of using "direct lean" on with a joypad a more viable option for me. It feels a bit easier..
The PS4 pad is also very good. But I think I do prefer the feel of the xbox one pad. Also I prefer the more familiar positioning of the left thumbstick coming from having used an xbox 360 controller in the past. It's a cool pad..
I have been offered the xbox one pad for £25 by my friend (he bought it as an extra pad to play Titanfall with on split screen..but when Titanfall came out it didn't provide a split-screen option).
So I reckon it's worth having..
grT ;)
Sounds like a good deal. Think I might get one also. I've had my X-Box 360 controller since 2006 LFS days.
Will the wireless X1 controller work with my usb receiver i`m currently using with my wireless 360 controller?
Xinput has made braking much better for me.. thanks! il stick with the 360 pad until it gets tired.. if it aint broke dont fix it.. ;)
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
Xinput has made braking much better for me.. thanks! il stick with the 360 pad until it gets tired.. if it aint broke dont fix it.. ;)
My mother adopted that approach a few years ago with our ageing oven in France. Come Christmas day morning that year (she is English not French who bizarrely eat their Christmas "lunch" on Christmas Eve night and stuff prunes up the Turkey's bottom) the oven played up and she had to use the grill to cook the Turkey. It was edible but a bit crispy on the outside and "moist" on the inside plus she had to turn the poor thing upside down to cook it!
So be warned Bob!
I bet PiBoSo has never eaten a Turkey cooked by his wife that way..
grT :)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 07:30:31 PM
(she is English not French who bizarrely eat their Christmas "lunch" on Christmas Eve night and stuff prunes up the Turkey's bottom)
I dare to say that no criticism to the french cusine can come from anybody from the UK.
I mean, here in the UK I've seen a brand of pies that goes under the very promising name of
Pukka Pies (ouch!) and an entire line of frozen food named
Gastro ...
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 07, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 07:30:31 PM
(she is English not French who bizarrely eat their Christmas "lunch" on Christmas Eve night and stuff prunes up the Turkey's bottom)
I dare to say that no criticism to the french cusine can come from anybody from the UK.
I mean, here in the UK I've seen a brand of pies that goes under the very promising name of Pukka Pies (ouch!) and an entire line of frozen food named Gastro ...
MaX.
woooaahhh!!!!! pukka pies are... well... pukka! ;)
actually.. no, they're not that good..
if you want a top notch pie you have to find a pieminister shop.. awesome!
trust me.. i know my pies :P
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 07:30:31 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 07, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
Xinput has made braking much better for me.. thanks! il stick with the 360 pad until it gets tired.. if it aint broke dont fix it.. ;)
My mother adopted that approach a few years ago with our ageing oven in France. Come Christmas day morning that year (she is English not French who bizarrely eat their Christmas "lunch" on Christmas Eve night and stuff prunes up the Turkey's bottom) the oven played up and she had to use the grill to cook the Turkey. It was edible but a bit crispy on the outside and "moist" on the inside plus she had to turn the poor thing upside down to cook it!
So be warned Bob!
are you sure she is english? lol
prunes..
christmas dinner on christmas eve???
what the bloody hell's goin on!!! lol
I bet PiBoSo has never eaten a Turkey cooked by his wife that way..
grT :)
messed that up.. ::)
how do i quote single paragraphs?
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 07, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 07:30:31 PM
(she is English not French who bizarrely eat their Christmas "lunch" on Christmas Eve night and stuff prunes up the Turkey's bottom)
I dare to say that no criticism to the french cusine can come from anybody from the UK.
I mean, here in the UK I've seen a brand of pies that goes under the very promising name of Pukka Pies (ouch!) and an entire line of frozen food named Gastro ...
MaX.
I grew up in France Max and whilst I do greatly enjoy French cuisine the quality of food in your average French restaurant is not what it used to be. Many of the Auberges are now fast food pizza joints. No offence to the venerable Pizza intended.. It's a symptom of the modern age I think.
Also where are all the good quality Curry Houses in France? In that respect Glasgow is by comparison a "hot house" of culinary delights!
What amazed me about France was how many of the French flocked to McDonald's..mind you in France you can buy and drink lager beers in McDonald's so maybe that takes the mind off the plastic burgers you are eating?
No offence intended to any Americans who may be listening..
grT ;)
P.S. Steak and Kidney pudding is nice!
pudding?
pie! steak and kidney PIE!!! lol
i prefer steak and ale pie myself..
i seriously recommend pieminister though... go find one, you wont regret!
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
I grew up in France Max and whilst I do greatly enjoy French cuisine the quality of food in your average French restaurant is not what it used to be. Many of the Auberges are now fast food pizza joints. No offence to the venerable Pizza intended.. It's a symptom of the modern age I think.
Also where are all the good quality Curry Houses in France? In that respect Glasgow is by comparison a "hot house" of culinary delights!
What amazed me about France was how many of the French flocked to McDonald's..mind you in France you can buy and drink lager beers in McDonald's so maybe that takes the mind off the plastic burgers you are eating?
No offence intended to any Americans who may be listening..
grT ;)
P.S. Steak and Kidney pudding is nice!
1. Pizza is fantastic. If I had to chose one single dish I have to eat twice a day from here on, I'd chose pizza no doubt. You can quickly get bored by Foie Gras after a while. The problem with pizza is that it's damn hard to find a good one (even in Italy).
2. I can find a very decent restaurant from any given point in France (mainland + corsica) in a 10Km radius. For the UK, you have to make that 100Km. And cross fingers.
3. Curry ? Seriously ? Is that a disease you have or what ? You fell in a large curry filled pan when 6 months old (Asterix style) ?
4. McDonald (and Quick and similar) are disgusting. But I can point you to real good places for a burger as it was originally meant to be. Got one in Cannes where the meat is sliced right before cooking the burger. I kinda know the owner. Bit expensive for a burger, but ...
5. Your PS confirms my point :)
You have more chances to win me over direct steer OFF than convincing me that the UK has a half decent culinary tradition. I mean, you have 1 cheese declined into 25 nearly identical variants, and that's all. I think in Europe (even if you don't like to be thought as part of it), the only place where you can eat worse than the UK is Switzerland (where on top of having extra bad food, it costs a damn fortune). But at least if you're in switzerland (which by the way have at least excellent cheese), you're only a short trip away from Italy of France :)
MaX.
P.S.
Man, 20 days to survive here ... today 14 degrees and heavy rain ... it's supposed to be almost summer in this hemisphere right now but ...
(http://the only place where you can eat worse than the UK is Switzerland)
I dare you to come eat in Holland...
Quote from: JamoZ on June 07, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
(http://the only place where you can eat worse than the UK is Switzerland)
I dare you to come eat in Holland...
Been there, done that. Definitely not good. You may be right indeed, holland could be on par with the UK.
MaX.
P.S.
I'll pass by holland on my way back.
Quote from: JamoZ on June 07, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
(http://the only place where you can eat worse than the UK is Switzerland)
I dare you to come eat in Holland...
I have been to Holland many times. I used to travel up there regularly from Normandie with an older friend to collect flowers and bulbs for their gardening business. I really enjoyed Amsterdam. Visiting Anne Frank's house (or hideaway) was very moving..
What I also really enjoyed was Indonesian cuisine. I thought it was top-notch to be honest. In a decent restaurant. Or home cooked.
I have a spicy tooth Max. My grandfather spent many years in India after the second world war. He grew to love curry in all its manifestations. He became addicted to it.
My father was the same and so is my mother. And my mother is a real "foodie" I can assure you. Everything is cooked from scratch. Even steak and kidney puddings. ;)
If I'm honest while I enjoy French, Italian and Spanish food hugely it's just not spicy enough for me. As much as I love it. I also enjoy African and Jamaican cuisine because of the spice. British or English food can be wonderful also. But you won't find it like that in many pubs or restaurants. Hardly any at all from my experience. It has to be home cooked in the traditional manner by someone who knows what they're doing. My mother uses quite a few Victorian recipes that are quite interesting.. Also despite being French for me the best traditional fully mature cheddar cheese beats the best comte any day of the week. We used to really miss good quality cheddar cheese when living in France. My father came back with a box of the best cheddar cheese from specialist U.K. suppliers whenever he visited England. Yes we were that mad for cheddar! ;D
Max, everyone to their own I guess. A properly and traditionally prepared frutti di mare pizza takes a lot of beating. I had one in Sienna once which was just wonderful.. Hang on you will soon be back in the sun Max! With some wonderful French food. ;)
Anyway, what has this got to do with the xbox one controller for goodness' sake and who was the idiot who changed the subject? ;)
I raced round the IOM TT track on the gp500 pc game against a friend online today and the xbox one controller was brilliant on gp500 also! Xpadder works perfectly with it also..
I like this controller very much indeed!
grT :)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Anyway, what has this got to do with the xbox one controller for goodness' sake and who was the idiot who changed the subject? ;)
Keep calm
and
blame Jamoz.
(too lazy to make a jpeg of it, just imagine).
MaX.
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Also despite being French
Careful, somebody on this fourm is gonna hate you for that :)
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
for me the best traditional fully mature cheddar cheese beats the best comte any day of the week.
Personal preferece. I actually like vintage cheddar, but comte is another league for me. Anyway, even so, in France you can have a best Comte on monday, a best Roquefort on tuesday, a best Morbier on wednesday, a best Saint-Nectaire on thursday, a best Pont-l'Eveque on friday, a best Maroilles (extra smelly) on saturday and I've plenty left for sunday. Here I'm on a cheddar only diet.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 07, 2014, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Anyway, what has this got to do with the xbox one controller for goodness' sake and who was the idiot who changed the subject? ;)
Keep calm
and
blame Jamoz.
(too lazy to make a jpeg of it, just imagine).
MaX.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrs9c6scYp1r3v6f2o1_500.gif)
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 07, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Also despite being French
Careful, somebody on this fourm is gonna hate you for that :)
MaX.
Doesn`t matter, we hated them first 8)
just one question: have you tried the logitech f310?
Quote from: Alby46 on June 08, 2014, 09:48:41 AM
just one question: have you tried the logitech f310?
I haven't, but another user on the previous forum posted a very detailed comparison in which the F310 was on par with the xbox 360 (IIRC, slightly better sticks, slightly worse triggers).
MaX.
Piboso,
I'm curious would it be possible in a GP Bikes using a X-Box One controller to have the Impulse triggers vibrate when your riders knee hits the ground? The vibration could get more extremely until you actual fall of the bike. Would be very helpful when leaning DST. :D
Hi Klax, that was my question 3 (actually I was more general, maybe the impulse thing could be used for something else too).
MaX.
That would be a great idea Klax! It would certainly add to the kind of badly needed bike feedback we need to race well in fully manual DST helmet view. But not just for the XBox One controller, but all controllers capable of FFB(this abbreviation larky is catching. Lol) and vibration handling. :) ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk_UK on June 08, 2014, 01:26:24 PM
That would be a great idea Klax! It would certainly add to the kind of badly needed bike feedback we need to race well in fully manual DST helmet view. But not just for the XBox One controller, but all controllers capable of FFB(this abbreviation larky is catching. Lol) and vibration handling. :) ;)
You actually mean all controllers capable of rumbling right ? (FFB is something else).
MAx.
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 08, 2014, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on June 08, 2014, 01:26:24 PM
That would be a great idea Klax! It would certainly add to the kind of badly needed bike feedback we need to race well in fully manual DST helmet view. But not just for the XBox One controller, but all controllers capable of FFB(this abbreviation larky is catching. Lol) and vibration handling. :) ;)
You actually mean all controllers capable of rumbling right ? (FFB is something else).
MAx.
Your right again Max. ;)
FFB would be great, but as far as I know there is no FFB on controller pads, just rumble as you say.
Hawk.
Just received the xbox one controller. Very first impressions:
- Joysticks are much better. Centering is still not perfect (but much better than before).
- Triggers and shoulder buttons are different, not sure if better or worse but I think after some practice they are as good as.
- Joystick have almost square output: not 100% square, but almost (much better than before). To me that alone is worth the price.
One annoying thing: the sticks heads are smaller than the ones of the xbox 360. Not a big deal, but I can't fix the Speed freek Apex (http://www.kontrolfreek.com/sports/speed-freek-apex.html (http://www.kontrolfreek.com/sports/speed-freek-apex.html)) I had on the 360 pad. Well, I'll find a ghetto way to fix them on anyway.
You'll have to buy/have an USB cable (USB to micro-USB) as the pad comes without.
MaX.
Just got the XBox One controller. Hmm not really digging it. My main complaint is the shoulder buttons aren't a button all the way across, the button only presses at the out edge. For me when playing it makes it a little awkward. Since my pointer finger lays across the button and presses with the tip of my finger.
The triggers free a lot looser then my 360 controller I got in 2006.
Joy sticks feel Ok, smooth. At the same time doesn't feel like it's giving me much resistance when using them. I've had Electric control stick on a old wheelchair like this when I was a kid. When it would get really cold the resistance would totally be gone, making the chair harder to drive until the stick warmed up. That is what it reminds me of.
Oh well, guess I stick with my old controller. The shoulder buttons not being a able to press at any point is really a draw back for me. :(
I don't use drivers Piboso made for my 360. I use XBCD since I also race iracing.com, live for speed, and a couple other driving sims. XBCD I was able to get rumble in GP Bikes, WRS, KRP it seems the rumble kicks in when turning, the more the turn the more the rumble. Or when I do a wheelie, and the front tire slams back down I feel a rumble.
GP Bikes in game settings does effect it since I can make it stronger and shut it off totally with in GP Bikes.
Side Note I can still use DST without rumble on at all, if anyone was wondering.
Hi klax
So what you are saying is that the xbox one controller is made for girls.. ?? :)
I was really hoping these new controllers would have stiffer triggers and sticks! Something to push against!
On the 360 pad when keeping a constant throttle at say half way I feel my finger craving some risistance.. (if that makes any sense) its not too bad but the thought of it being any lighter makes me cringe lol
Il stick with the trusty old 360 pad.. :)
Ps. Does XBCD work for rfactor 2 with the pad?
I want to play rfactor and iracing but im not intrested in buying a wheel.. The only car sim iv played so far pad friendly is assetto corsa.
Quote from: Klax75 on June 19, 2014, 11:45:12 PM
I don't use drivers Piboso made for my 360. I use XBCD since I also race iracing.com, live for speed, and a couple other driving sims. XBCD I was about to get rumble in GP Bikes, WRS, KRP it seems the rumble kicks in when turning, the more the turn the more the rumble. Or when I do a wheelie, and the front tire slams back down I feel a rumble.
Using XBCD, the FFB signal of GPB (i.e. the torque applied to the handlebar, minus the rider generated one) is what is translated by XBCD into a rumble signal.
How exactly XBCD does this is something I don't know and most likely you don't want to know as translating a torque in to a vibration may make little sense.
Just curious, does the rumble help you ? Do you lap faster, more consistently or more easily with rumble than without ?
MaX.
Ok, hand over the rumble stuff right now or i might end up killing you both...
This for XBox 360 ControllerHope this helps. It rumbles when you turn, the more the turn the more the rumble it seems. If you fall of the bike the rumble stops immediately.
I also have the file for the controls I set up, I had to do this in 2006 for Life for Speed, and iRacing.com to get the controller to work. Also to have separate throttle and brake. And it works fine with all Piboso's games. And some other driving sim's. I also have a read me.
See if it works for you guys, I can also try to find my iRacing.com thread page were I explained how I got it to work.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!cc5nDZYI!DCiOGja68HBzbACgBDyeAg (https://mega.co.nz/#F!cc5nDZYI!DCiOGja68HBzbACgBDyeAg)
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 20, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 19, 2014, 11:45:12 PM
I don't use drivers Piboso made for my 360. I use XBCD since I also race iracing.com, live for speed, and a couple other driving sims. XBCD I was about to get rumble in GP Bikes, WRS, KRP it seems the rumble kicks in when turning, the more the turn the more the rumble. Or when I do a wheelie, and the front tire slams back down I feel a rumble.
Using XBCD, the FFB signal of GPB (i.e. the torque applied to the handlebar, minus the rider generated one) is what is translated by XBCD into a rumble signal.
How exactly XBCD does this is something I don't know and most likely you don't want to know as translating a torque in to a vibration may make little sense.
Just curious, does the rumble help you ? Do you lap faster, more consistently or more easily with rumble than without ?
MaX.
To be honest since I start GP Bikes last year I always had rumble, so I was surprised when in a PM you told me normally you don't. So I've never played to much when it wasn't rumbling.
Quote from: Klax75 on June 20, 2014, 01:37:50 AM
To be honest since I start GP Bikes last year I always had rumble, so I was surprised when in a PM you told me normally you don't. So I've never played to much when it wasn't rumbling.
OK, so take your favourite track and bike combo and do a few laps without rumble (you can probably just zero-out the FFB in GPB, that should do it).
I would be surprised if you were any slower or if the bike was harder to ride.
Still one can like to have the rumble thing, no problem with that of course.
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 20, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 20, 2014, 01:37:50 AM
To be honest since I start GP Bikes last year I always had rumble, so I was surprised when in a PM you told me normally you don't. So I've never played to much when it wasn't rumbling.
OK, so take your favourite track and bike combo and do a few laps without rumble (you can probably just zero-out the FFB in GPB, that should do it).
I would be surprised if you were any slower or if the bike was harder to ride.
Still one can like to have the rumble thing, no problem with that of course.
MaX.
Hitting the check box in-game for force feed back will shut it off also. I can play with or without it. It's always been more of a visual or audio thing for me when racing. But it had always been rumbling for me so I didn't realize it wasn't for others. It's not making me any faster or slower. :)
So in essence it doesn't help you at all (neither faster nor more consistent laps), right ?
MaX.
I never said it did. Just said it has always been on for me. So I have got use to it being on.
I know, it was just to be sure I understand you right.
I've discussed in the past with other people using it and they claimed that it was helpful (which sounds strange to me).
MaX.
Didn`t get it to work, driver derped out and the program itself started putting out all kinds of random numbers. So i`ll guess i`ll have to kill one of you..who volunteers?
Surely not me: I'm utterly against custom drivers for silly stuff like a joypad.
I'd advise to remove all joypad drivers (microsoft and xbcd) and then replug the pad to reinstall windows drivers.
MaX.