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GP Bikes => Mods => Bikes => Topic started by: C21 on June 18, 2014, 07:36:12 AM

Title: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 18, 2014, 07:36:12 AM
Just another upcoming mod in the near or far future.
Driving the Aprilia RSA makes a lot of fun (great work ODI) BUT it would be more fun to have a few more of the agile 2 strokes.
Easier to ride than the 500cc beasts and enough power to keep up with the 600cc WSS bikes.

Teaser pic:
(http://s21.postimg.org/tt4hsgytf/screen020.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tt4hsgytf/)

Content:
KTM GP250
Yamaha TZ250

Eventually:
Aprilia RSW (has to be discussed)
Honda RSW (has to be discussed)

Own physics

No release date yet!
Just on the beginning.....so don´t ask for "when can it be run on the track".

Remember i´m only part of a team...
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: ALEale on June 18, 2014, 07:45:13 AM
so..... phisycs totally different from _oDi_'s mod?
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 18, 2014, 07:47:16 AM
we are not using the RSA phyiscs , yes.
That´s why the Yam will be the slowest of the 250cc but we try to improve the chassis and handling that you be competitive on tracks like Sachsenring, Valencia,....
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: rodney007 on June 18, 2014, 08:12:17 AM
Sweet, but should be alot faster than wss 600cc?
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: EdouardB on June 18, 2014, 02:29:26 PM
Hey C21, I ride a 1992 TZ250 about 2 or 3 times a year, if you need help with the physics just tell me. I just want to say that the oDi physics on the aprilia 250GP feel very very close to a real TZ250. The TZ250 just has a bit less power (it's about 85/90 bhp instead of 110). The chassis feels very much the same... I think the oDi physics are a good start tbh :P
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: EdouardB on June 18, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
Here's the link to pictures of a completely original 1992 TZ 250 (4DP type)

http://classic-racing-motorcycles.com/en/racing-bikes/yamaha-tz-250-d-1992-fd51/
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 18, 2014, 02:51:39 PM
Thanks E.
Model is based on the TZ build 2003 (5KE4).
Physic will be based on the 5KE4 with a bit of extra power from the Petronas Yamaha Team  :D
Have to add some additional gears because the gear kit for the 5KE4 was not that big....
I think you will be satisfied.
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 20, 2015, 07:55:14 AM
Update:
Working on the TZ......hopefully i can release the bike after Beta7 is out.
Just updated it from 5b to 6c.... :)
Now updating the physics....depending on some infos hopefully getting soon.

BTW
KTM is not converted yet... ::)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: RiccoChicco on June 20, 2015, 08:35:08 AM
It looks good!  8)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Gzehoo on June 20, 2015, 09:23:11 AM
Can't wait for testing it  ;) although I hope mainly Honda :D
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: CapeDoctor on June 20, 2015, 12:36:23 PM
anyone considering doing an RG/RGV 250?
would be reaally cool, but i could be biased, as i actually owned a brand new RG250 back in '86 through to '89.
to this day, although i've had several bigger bikes, it's still the most fun i ever had on two wheels... :D
either way, looking forward to seeing more 250's in the paddock, the Aprilia seems mighty lonely atm...  ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: matty0l215 on June 20, 2015, 12:38:50 PM
Looking good mate  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Boerenlater on June 20, 2015, 01:49:24 PM
Very nice. Keep up the good work.
What about road 250s like the KR1S, NSR or what TheCapeDoctor said; a RGV.
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Hawk on June 20, 2015, 01:51:53 PM
It will be great to have the TZ250 Chris..... Looking forward to this very much!  ;D 8)

Hawk.
PS: Would also be great to have the 80's and 90's versions too.  ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 20, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
QuoteWhat about road 250s like the KR1S, NSR or what TheCapeDoctor said; a RGV.
If you model it from scratch...
I´m focussing on the GP250 first.....it´s much much work to do.....a lot more if you build the bike from scratch....which will be the best option but soooooooo time consuming.
GP250 Honda will be done by Juju or Odi....don´t know when it wil be released....
I would like to see the RGV too, owned and raced one in the past (too bad that i sold her.. would like to have her back.)  :D

I´m still be reliant on Anlone who is making the 3D work and he is getting better and better.   :)

@Hawk: Sorry i will not make any 80 or 90 version 250.  :-\
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Boerenlater on June 20, 2015, 02:28:17 PM
What are you using, 3DSMAX?
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Hawk on June 20, 2015, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: C21 on June 20, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
QuoteWhat about road 250s like the KR1S, NSR or what TheCapeDoctor said; a RGV.
If you model it from scratch...
I´m focussing on the GP250 first.....it´s much much work to do.....a lot more if you build the bike from scratch....which will be the best option but soooooooo time consuming.
GP250 Honda will be done by Juju or Odi....don´t know when it wil be released....
I would like to see the RGV too, owned and raced one in the past (too bad that i sold her.. would like to have her back.)  :D

I´m still be reliant on Anlone who is making the 3D work and he is getting better and better.   :)

@Hawk: Sorry i will not make any 80 or 90 version 250. :-\

No worries.... I'll look into modelling the 80's and 90' versions at some stage. I'm a big classic fan of those era's.  ;D

Hawk.
PS: Can't wait till the riders become mod-able so we can get some classic rider models created too!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 20, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
Great news C21 TY very much!!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: skerp on June 20, 2015, 04:11:56 PM
I Have a Dream!
(http://utage3166.web.fc2.com/mokei/00nsr250kato/k4.jpg?78683331)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: Meyer#12 on June 20, 2015, 06:48:51 PM
Sounds awesome! Looking forward for those bikes!! :)
Title: Re: [WIP] GP250 - Additional bikes
Post by: C21 on June 21, 2015, 02:59:28 PM
yes, 3dsmax.