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Title: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 12, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
GPBikes Beta6c

(http://i.imgur.com/wD0Vueg.jpg)

Race Event
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Race Setup


Help

How to start? (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=862.0)
Remember to set Help to ON, in order to see the red arrow or flags.
You can find this option under Settings -> Misc -> Track



Riders Closed



Wildcard Closed

Wildcards will only be used if riders drop from the initial 24 riders who signed up.

Excluded Riders


Rules

Drivers that have signed up and dont appear on the race day, without giving a 24 hour notice will be excluded from any future events i organize.
(any unforeseen circumstances like no internet connection, family matters, will not be counted towards this rule)
Its seems only fair to do it this way because you take a spot on the grid which could have been given to someone else who could have done the race.





Basic Info
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Toomes1 on November 12, 2014, 06:26:11 PM
I'm there PeterV I'm there.....me old fruit.
R6
#71
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: matty0l215 on November 12, 2014, 06:26:49 PM
Yup im in :)

matty0l215
Ducati 749
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Boerenlater on November 12, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 12, 2014, 07:11:37 PM
good stuff im in! 100%

R6 #84

HGP skin
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: malve on November 12, 2014, 07:13:57 PM
Good Peter , nice to see more and more races :)

Sign me up pls !

cya
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Nismo on November 12, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
Me pls, wildcard  ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: finpower on November 12, 2014, 07:56:26 PM

Sign me up on Wildcard pls

Honda  # 56
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Hawk on November 12, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
I'm in Peter!  ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Klax75 on November 12, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
I'm in. :)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: yan24 on November 12, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
salut,

yan24 /  98
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: LoriX on November 12, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
I'm in for the wildcard spot cuz I'm not 100% sure I'll make it.
Lorix #34
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: hezio on November 12, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
I am in
Hezio #3
;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 12, 2014, 11:38:56 PM
Wow the original layout is technical!! Will be a tough race for sure..
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: tonygas on November 13, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
Hi

I´m in.

tonygas #84
ninja
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Gzehoo on November 13, 2014, 11:16:30 AM
Please write me as "wildcard".

#92
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Hawk on November 13, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
If we can get a 24 rider grid then wow! I think there will be close action all the way on Misano!  ;D ;D 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: nuovaic on November 13, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
I think there would be a lot of crashes! Particularly turn 1 & 3 on first lap

I'M IN :)

Should be fun anyway.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: Hawk on November 13, 2014, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: nuovaic on November 13, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
I think there would be a lot of crashes! Particularly turn 1 & 3 on first lap

I'M IN :)

Should be fun anyway.

LOL..... You could be right!

People should realise that races are not won in the first corners and to take it steady on the 1st lap through the 1st & 3rd corners on this track to avoid collisions.  ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: hezio on November 13, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
Quote from: hezio on November 12, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
I am in
Hezio #3
;)

I think you have lost me Peter V  :'( ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: giorjoe on November 14, 2014, 07:10:47 AM
welcome in Italy... ok for me
giorjoe #82 rider ok
thanks Joe
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: finpower on November 14, 2014, 03:58:21 PM
hi peterV
I traind well and would now officicaly from the Wildcard to the rider Change
thank you 8)

sorry for my Google englich ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: PeterV on November 14, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: hezio on November 13, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
Quote from: hezio on November 12, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
I am in
Hezio #3
;)

I think you have lost me Peter V  :'( ;)
You are so right, i did overlook you. i have placecd you on the riders list now, sorry Hezio
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: hezio on November 14, 2014, 06:08:03 PM
Quote from: PeterV on November 14, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: hezio on November 13, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
Quote from: hezio on November 12, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
I am in
Hezio #3
;)

I think you have lost me Peter V  :'( ;)
You are so right, i did overlook you. i have placecd you on the riders list now, sorry Hezio


No problem Peter V thanks you !  ;)
We will this forget on the track  :P
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 15, 2014, 03:25:18 PM
Yuri Bascopé #11
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 02
Post by: PeterV on November 17, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
1st Post updated (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1682.0)

WSS600 MOD v099b can be downloaded here....

WSS660 MOD v099b (http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553)

Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 18, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
1st Post updated (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1682.0)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: matty0l215 on November 18, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
Sorry, going to have to pull out. Working away  :-\
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 18, 2014, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on November 18, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
Sorry, going to have to pull out. Working away  :-\

workaholic..  ::) :P
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: matty0l215 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 18, 2014, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on November 18, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
Sorry, going to have to pull out. Working away  :-\

workaholic..  ::) :P
Overnight work trip to Spain (fix something my boss f'ed up).... wont get back until 11pm Friday night :P
At least I don't do it EVERY race  ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 18, 2014, 08:23:18 PM
Ahaahaha true story..  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 19, 2014, 07:14:38 AM
thanks for the server info peter on the other thread! its extra work for you guys hosting but it definately helps!
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 19, 2014, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 19, 2014, 07:14:38 AM
thanks for the server info peter on the other thread! its extra work for you guys hosting but it definately helps!

Good to hear thats what its for, enjoy
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Jose Reina on November 21, 2014, 04:23:30 PM
Hi

I´m in.

Jose Reina #62
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Boerenlater on November 23, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Come on we need some more drivers.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 25, 2014, 02:47:41 AM
Here is my skin for Kawasaki Ninja 6r.

https://www.mediafire.com/?upo9s0xokkxkza6
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 25, 2014, 06:44:27 PM
Quote from: lotusmania on November 25, 2014, 02:47:41 AM
Here is my skin for Kawasaki Ninja 6r.

https://www.mediafire.com/?upo9s0xokkxkza6

very nice.
you have 3 files, bike (Yuri Bascope.pnt), Rider (Yuri Bascope Suit.pnt), and helmet (Yuri Bascope.pnt)

Should you not replace the suit.tga with rider.tga? (extract rider.tga from Yuri Bascope suit.pnt).

Make a new bike skin Yuri Bascope.pnt with the following files.
- livery.tga
- plexi.tga
- rider.tga
- wheels.tga
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: giorjoe on November 27, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
ready for tomorrow?good luck
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 27, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
Quote from: giorjoe on November 27, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
ready for tomorrow?good luck

Oh yes! I'm really looking forward to this one.... Love those WSS 600's!! ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: giorjoe on November 27, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
yes friend  ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Kerazo on November 27, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
id like to join if still possible
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 27, 2014, 05:07:08 PM
I'm having data mismatch everytime =/. I downloaded the Bikemod 2.30 and the track from dropbox. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 27, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
you need this version of the wss600 mod.

WSS600 V099b

its all in the first post click the GPBikesItalia link.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 27, 2014, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: PeterV on November 27, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
you need this version of the wss600 mod.

WSS600 V099b

its all in the first post click the GPBikesItalia link.

Yeah I did it right now and works :p. Thought everything was in the 2.30 link xD
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 27, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
1st Post updated (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1682.0)
(including the wildcard riders)

Please all try the connection to see if all is oke.
Any problems just post in the forum.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 27, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
C'mon guys.... 2 people on the server and your racing!? Have some consideration for others who'd like to go online and practice who cannot connect because you've started a race.  :)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 27, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on November 27, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
Quote from: giorjoe on November 27, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
ready for tomorrow?good luck

Oh yes! I'm really looking forward to this one.... Love those WSS 600's!! ;D

Hawk.

A big +1  ;D

I discovered this morning that this server is hooked up to the best laps project..

Damn you Toomes!!! Lol  ;D 8)

That said.. If it goes smoothly and we all keep it on the black stuff, should be a quality race!! Cant wait.. ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 27, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
PeterV.. Il use the mick doohan Arai RX7 GP.. cant post a link off my phone but will do tomorrow if needed!
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Boerenlater on November 28, 2014, 09:57:19 AM
No it sure if I can be there. PC is giving me many problems.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: giorjoe on November 28, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
i try server all days and yesterday, no core for me always in peter's events
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 28, 2014, 03:10:47 PM
Guys, I'm retiring from this race. Reason: Didn't practice too much for this race and I don't want to screw others race. And also, I hate Misano :D.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 27, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
PeterV.. Il use the mick doohan Arai RX7 GP.. cant post a link off my phone but will do tomorrow if needed!
not needed  if it has been posted before.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: tonygas on November 28, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
Hi, I'm out of work and I think that I will get something right for the race. I just wanted to say if you do not give me time to get into the classification.

Google translation
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: LoriX on November 28, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
I'm in definately! see ya :)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: lotusmania on November 28, 2014, 03:10:47 PM
Guys, I'm retiring from this race. Reason: Didn't practice too much for this race and I don't want to screw others race. And also, I hate Misano :D.

No excuse...  ;)i didn't practice either only yesterday about 12 laps. Ill keep you on the whitelist so you can always join in.
Just come for the fun, it will be fun. just make sure you get off the race line asap, pay attention too the flags shown.
And the faster guys will be aware of the what slower ones and act accordingly.

Quote from: tonygas on November 28, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
Hi, I'm out of work and I think that I will get something right for the race. I just wanted to say if you do not give me time to get into the classification.

Google translation

I get that getting a job is more important i wont hold it against you. You can get into the server as long as the race has not started yet.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: tonygas on November 28, 2014, 04:38:09 PM
Sorry for the translation of google.

I'm working out and I think that he gets very fair for the race. I just wanted to warn him.

In case I do not have time to go

Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: [R70 Team] Super-Eleven on November 28, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
Ah, forgot to say, there's a bug in the last corner of Misano, specifically on the gravel. Be careful there guys :D Good race (http://s30.postimg.org/kj0si2att/screen063.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 07:31:56 PM
1st Post updated (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1682.0)


WSS600 MOD v099b can be downloaded here....

WSS660 MOD v099b (http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553)

Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: tonygas on November 28, 2014, 09:00:52 PM
Go disaster haha bad start and black hole  :o ;D ;D

See you at the next guys and good luck
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: giorjoe on November 28, 2014, 09:34:48 PM
A good 5th place in the race, but mostly I found rhythm and concentration in the long races that gives me strength. Thank you Peterand all riders, I hope to see you soon on the track. Bye Joe
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 09:35:36 PM
Good race all, was fun.

Oldschool is now on a Winterbreak
So no races from Oldschool in December.

Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: finpower on November 28, 2014, 09:40:23 PM
thanks for the good race drivers :)

cya next tjme ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 28, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
Hard luck tony... that hole is a fatal one. :o ???

Congrats to kerazio for the win.  ;D
Real unlucky for Lorix for running out of fuel half lap on last lap... Tuff luck mate!  :(

I decided to take a risk with hard tyres and after about 7 laps it was like riding on ice for some strange reason? I heard that Nouviac had the same problem too.

My gear change also decided to play up badly during the race, changing up when I wanted to change down and vice versa? Is this a fault with my config or can GPB do this as a mechanical failure??
Any way I decided to limp to the end of the race, but god knows how many times I was lapped or fell on my arse during that race... I'll be interested to see the replay to see were everything started to go wrong for me in this one. Lol

Anyway it was great fun as usual and again Peter put on a great event as always, just sad to hear Peter is having a winter break from promoting race events... We'll miss you Peter, but you've been doing a fantastic job mate. Well done!!  ;)  ;D 8)

Hawk.

PS: Just seen your post above.... You starting again in Jan Peter?  ;D
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
Oldschool Nightshift results and replay (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y9n3pi7xv9t9czt/oMmXOJ5Msi)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on November 28, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
PS: Just seen your post above.... You starting again in Jan Peter?  ;D

I thought most of you where doing the STK1000 championship?

Probably returning in Januari/Februari
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 28, 2014, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on November 28, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
PS: Just seen your post above.... You starting again in Jan Peter?  ;D

I thought most of you where doing the STK1000 championship?

Probably returning in Januari/Februari

+1  ;D

A WSS600 Champs would be good until someone gets a good physics file sorted for a 500 2-stroke. To run in between the STK1000 champ dates.  ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: LoriX on November 28, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a497/lorix123/screen050_zpse3c91371.jpg)
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a497/lorix123/screen051_zpsd700e606.jpg)
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a497/lorix123/screen052_zps7a2676aa.jpg)
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a497/lorix123/screen053_zpsdbf6307a.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Klax75 on November 29, 2014, 03:19:14 AM
Sorry I missed the event guys. Yesterday was a holiday (Thanksgiving) here in the U.S. and I was up late with my siblings. Over slept and end up getting up until well after the event had already started. Then events here for us in the U.S. are in the Mid afternoon. 2:30-4 pm.

Hope it went well!
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 29, 2014, 08:50:17 AM
Glad it went well guys! i had some strange tyre issues! hard tyre had 0 grip lol!!!  :o anyway i crashed alot.... lol. in the end it froze when i was sliding down the track on my backside lol  ;D ;D

i enjoyed practice/qually though.. really good stuff nice one guys!  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: hezio on November 29, 2014, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: PeterV on November 28, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on November 28, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
PS: Just seen your post above.... You starting again in Jan Peter?  ;D

I thought most of you where doing the STK1000 championship?

Probably returning in Januari/Februari

Yes, Peter V it's very good and very interesting this championship but it's the Wenesday and for many guys it's difficult in week with job.
But if you want a champioship 500cc or 600cc for me it's very good but the Friday or Sunday nigth when all guys are at home  ;)

I am very enjoy to seen many race and many championship start now.

And we have a good players with a good respect of the rules (fair play) and good ambience.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: hezio on November 29, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 29, 2014, 08:50:17 AM
Glad it went well guys! i had some strange tyre issues! hard tyre had 0 grip lol!!!  :o anyway i crashed alot.... lol. in the end it froze when i was sliding down the track on my backside lol  ;D ;D

i enjoyed practice/qually though.. really good stuff nice one guys!  ;) 8)

Yes,

I have the same problem with my tire.
I have take the tire hard front and rear and it's a big error for my race.
I don't have a good sensation with my bike after 8 or 9 laps.
It's very long and very "hard" lol
My time was 1,34 1,35 but with big difficulty.

Yesterday after the race I have test again my setup and with medium it's very better my time 1,33,5 at 1,34 with very good regularity.
I have loose the race with this choice tyre.

Kerazo for the next I would be right behind you  ;)
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: nuovaic on November 29, 2014, 02:37:19 PM
This was a more interesting race than I first thought. With no setup and no practice, late home from work, I thought 'this is gonna suck' especially as I opted for what I thought was safe tyres (hard) :o

Turned out to be really enjoyable! Many thanks Peter, all your hard work over the past year is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 29, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Just done a test on using hard tyres to try and define what the problem was for me and others who used hard tyres in the race last night:

The conclusion that I've come to from my test is that the susp/tyre pressures used for the med tyres needs to be totally different for when using hard tyres. Because again I did the 8 laps with same fuel load and suspension settings I set for use with the med tyres but using the hard tyres I used in the race. Again the tyres started to feel like they had hardly any grip at all. I suspected the tyre temps were either not getting to operating temps or possibly getting too hot, but no, tyres temps were okay, so I can only deduce that it is the suspension settings that need to be altered for use with hard tyres? But then again, why would the hard tyres grip reasonably okay for the first 7-8 laps and then suddenly start to go over the cliff(so to speak)?

Now I'm wondering if the hard tyres have a bug in there grip/operating temp levels on the YZFR6?

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: hezio on November 29, 2014, 05:40:54 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on November 29, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Just done a test on using hard tyres to try and define what the problem was for me and others who used hard tyres in the race last night:

The conclusion that I've come to from my test is that the susp/tyre pressures used for the med tyres needs to be totally different for when using hard tyres. Because again I did the 8 laps with same fuel load and suspension settings I set for use with the med tyres but using the hard tyres I used in the race. Again the tyres started to feel like they had hardly any grip at all. I suspected the tyre temps were either not getting to operating temps or possibly getting too hot, but no, tyres temps were okay, so I can only deduce that it is the suspension settings that need to be altered for use with hard tyres? But then again, why would the hard tyres grip reasonably okay for the first 7-8 laps and then suddenly start to go over the cliff(so to speak)?

Now I'm wondering if the hard tyres have a bug in there grip/operating temp levels on the YZFR6?

Hawk.

It's the same with the ZX6R !
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Kerazo on November 29, 2014, 05:44:40 PM
no problems with the hard tire for me, for sure it has lower grip than the medium but its not like on ice ::) only 3 laps before the end i felt the front didnt grip under hard breaking whilste riding my arse off to escape lorix lol
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: kerazxo on November 29, 2014, 05:44:40 PM
no problems with the hard tire for me, for sure it has lower grip than the medium but its not like on ice ::) only 3 laps before the end i felt the front didnt grip under hard breaking whilste riding my arse off to escape lorix lol

Hmm.... Very strange. I can only presume that the differences are due to different susp setting then, but my rear end and my front end in particular was washing away from me regularly with those hard tyres after 7-8 laps, and it was a big noticeable change in performance from earlier laps too. When using the med tyres I didn't get any problems at all, the handling was almost perfect.

Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Kerazo on November 29, 2014, 06:17:09 PM
you should try standard r6 setup. was it even possible to finish the race with meds?
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on November 29, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: kerazxo on November 29, 2014, 06:17:09 PM
you should try standard r6 setup. was it even possible to finish the race with meds?

Yep  22 laps on medium, and they where not even completly worn, plenty rubber left.

I choose hard tyre during the practice session, but it felt way off compared to the medium, so i switched back again for the race.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: LoriX on November 29, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
I chose mediums for the race. I could control my pace very well.. last 5 laps was a little tricky when I was trying to close down on Kerazo..
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: Hawk on November 29, 2014, 10:25:24 PM
Quote from: kerazxo on November 29, 2014, 06:17:09 PM
you should try standard r6 setup. was it even possible to finish the race with meds?

You were using totally bog-standard default setup!? :o

I just cannot find my comfort zone with the default setup.... The front end just doesn't track like it does when I adjust the setup for my own riding style.

Unlike Peter, I unfortunately didn't give the hards a test before the race(I wish I did. LOL), but just took the risk of the hards giving a better level of grip maybe 8 laps into the race when the meds should be starting to go off peak grip levels. But also presuming that the hards wouldn't give such a performance penalty for me in the early laps(Which for me they most certainly did).

Personally I think the grip levels on tyres should degrade more during a full race, especially dependant on duration of tyre temps and wear factors over a long period of laps. That way it would be vital to set the correct tyre pressures and also wear rates dependant on your riding style so that one rider may need a hard rear to last a full race, were another rider could maybe get away with med tyres on both wheels, or vice versa depending on the track and style of riding you do.  ;D
I just think that would make things so much more interesting to know that you have to get the right settings to stand a chance of winning the race rather than, as you said kerazxo, you just used the standard settings.


Hawk.
Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: BOBR6 84 on December 01, 2014, 02:33:12 AM
Does anybody know what the track temp was in that race?

I did lots of practice laps on all tyres throughout the week and my laptime was consistantly close between soft, meds, hard tyres.

Who knows, maybe I selected used soft tyres by mistake? From lap 1 grip levels were poor for me.



Title: Re: Oldschool Nightshift Misano 03 V0.7_NDS
Post by: PeterV on December 01, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on December 01, 2014, 02:33:12 AM
Does anybody know what the track temp was in that race?

I did lots of practice laps on all tyres throughout the week and my laptime was consistantly close between soft, meds, hard tyres.

Who knows, maybe I selected used soft tyres by mistake? From lap 1 grip levels were poor for me.

Dedicated settings used:

[weather]
realistic = 0; 0 or 1, if set to 1, following params are ignored
conditions = 0 ; 0 -> sunny, 1 -> cloudy, 2 -> rainy
temperature = 20 ; air temperature, celsius
wind_direction = 1 ; 0 -> n, 1 -> ne, 2 -> e, 3 -> se, 4 -> s, 5 -> sw, 6 -> w, 7 -> nw
wind_speed = 0 ; meters/second
track_conditions = 0 ; 0 -> dry, 1 -> wet