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Poll
Question: Would you be interested in Daily Fun Races
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
Option 3: Maybe
Title: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 12:19:17 AM
We are hoping to organise Daily Fun Race Events for the community to give all riders a chance to participate in race events.

The idea is to hold one fun race event each night at the same time(time yet to yet be decided).
Also to race a different bike category on each night, ie: WSS600 on Monday Nights, SBK1000 on Tuesday Nights, etc, etc......

We need to know how many riders are interested in participating......

Please vote guys.... This is for you.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: JJS209 on March 28, 2015, 12:37:38 AM
+ 1
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on March 28, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
Probably wouldnt be able to take part in most events due to work but its a good idea and I would race whenever I can..
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Docfumi on March 28, 2015, 02:37:29 AM
This is good as BOB stated, a lot of guys (Old and New) will get the chance to roll.

No Rider Left Behind  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Toomes1 on March 28, 2015, 08:15:18 AM
Brilliant idea
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
     OK so I have learnt about 'skinning' the last cupla days and I will learn about setting a dedicated server for the next few days. I saw some good tutorials round here somewhere.  I have 150mb down and 10~20mb up if you think that will be enough?  Keeping the family off every evening might be more tricky. Utilizing one of the existing servers would still be preferred.  But, we have options...

     I am happy to run this event if we can agree on keeping it simple. Registrations, skin packs and the like every day in my opinion, will be too much to administer both for the riders and admin in the couple of hours after work and before race practice every evening. I would also need a wing man to take over when I can't do it which may be quite often.

     I'm sure we must already have the skin packs from previous races which could be put in the server as a starting point then others can drip-feed in as required?  I need to read up again on the mods database thats kept. Or just use the base default bikes. Its the race fun that's important in this event. Personal custom Skins could be for the more important championships.

I also believe there should be some way of riders saying they will turn up for each race (or I expect it will dry up) by some form of daily 'registration' but it needs to be simple. As yet I haven't thought of a solution to this. A thread each day is the obvious solution but man that's gonna get tiring every day.

The great news is even just today we have 10 people interested so I think its a go-er. 8)

Everyone is invited to chip in their suggestions here please but try to ask yourself if that is the simplest solution first.

Cheers,
Nick (a simpleton)
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 12:23:45 PM
I would also like to suggest keeping the same track for one week and increasing the category daily.

For example

WEEK1 - ARAGON

125cc Monday
Moto 3 Tuesday
250gp Wednesday
WSS600 Thursday
SS1000 Friday
Moto 2 Saturday
Gp500 Sunday.

Or whatever people want bearing in mind other races going on that will impact rider numbers on certain days.

This idea will make it easier for all to only check they have the right track once a week and build rider skills at each track.

Just a suggestion comments welcome


Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 12:23:45 PM
I would also like to suggest keeping the same track for one week and increasing the category daily.

For example

WEEK1 - ARAGON

125cc Monday
Moto 3 Tuesday
250gp Wednesday
WSS600 Thursday
SS1000 Friday
Moto 2 Saturday
Gp500 Sunday.

Or whatever people want bearing in mind other races going on that will impact rider numbers on certain days.

This idea will make it easier for all to only check they have the right track once a week and build rider skills at each track.

Just a suggestion comments welcome

Hi Nick.... +1  ;)

A great idea of yours to keep the one track for the weeks events for the reasons you've stated, and then change the track to another track for the next week and so on.  8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: malve on March 28, 2015, 03:02:50 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 12:23:45 PM
I would also like to suggest keeping the same track for one week and increasing the category daily.

For example

WEEK1 - ARAGON

125cc Monday
Moto 3 Tuesday
250gp Wednesday
WSS600 Thursday
SS1000 Friday
Moto 2 Saturday
Gp500 Sunday.

Or whatever people want bearing in mind other races going on that will impact rider numbers on certain days.

This idea will make it easier for all to only check they have the right track once a week and build rider skills at each track.

Just a suggestion comments welcome


+1 !!!
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
     OK so I have learnt about 'skinning' the last cupla days and I will learn about setting a dedicated server for the next few days. I saw some good tutorials round here somewhere.  I have 150mb down and 10~20mb up if you think that will be enough?  Keeping the family off every evening might be more tricky. Utilizing one of the existing servers would still be preferred.  But, we have options...

     I am happy to run this event if we can agree on keeping it simple. Registrations, skin packs and the like every day in my opinion, will be too much to administer both for the riders and admin in the couple of hours after work and before race practice every evening. I would also need a wing man to take over when I can't do it which may be quite often.

     I'm sure we must already have the skin packs from previous races which could be put in the server as a starting point then others can drip-feed in as required?  I need to read up again on the mods database thats kept. Or just use the base default bikes. Its the race fun that's important in this event. Personal custom Skins could be for the more important championships.

I also believe there should be some way of riders saying they will turn up for each race (or I expect it will dry up) by some form of daily 'registration' but it needs to be simple. As yet I haven't thought of a solution to this. A thread each day is the obvious solution but man that's gonna get tiring every day.

The great news is even just today we have 10 people interested so I think its a go-er. 8)

Everyone is invited to chip in their suggestions here please but try to ask yourself if that is the simplest solution first.

Cheers,
Nick (a simpleton)

A good way to keep the promotion/rider registration forum posts to a complete minimum workload is to have a standard "Daily Fun Race Event" page that can be copy pasted for the next days event only leaving very little details to have to alter to complete. This way you wouldn't have to completely re-write a new forum post for every days events.
Also to post say a weeks event promotion thread posts in advance. Certainly once the promotional threads for each track and bike category had been done then the task would get even easier for copy pasting for the next events. I hope you understand what I'm trying to explain?  ;) :)

Personally I'm trying to keep out of organising this as much as possible because of my current workload with personal work and the Track Downloads Database together with the Track and Bike Mod projects that I'm currently working on, otherwise I'll be that fully loaded up with working for the community that I'll be hard pressed to find time for anything else. Already getting an ear bashing from the family. Lol.  ;D

I'll certainly help were I can.  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: JJS209 on March 28, 2015, 03:15:40 PM
looks like we got an uncertain result... :O

Maybe another, following poll would be usefull to decide which classes whould be in the week.


GP125 and/or Moto3;

GP250 and/or SSP600 and/or Moto 2;

STK1000 and/or SBK and/or GP500 and/or GP800 and/or GP1000;

/////////

@hawk maybe we could open up a new sectiong in RACING called somethink like "Daily Races" and e.g. a thread with the date and the todays raceinfos inside.
5/6/7 Days and 9/10 classes (-GP800?)

////////

like hawk already said, we will need someone who will do the work. and i think it will be a lot to keep it daily actual. so it would maybe good when there would be more than just one guy doing this.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 03:48:17 PM
All points taken thank you.

Hawk - yes totally understand mate you are doing a lions share already that's why I'm happy to run with it. Will get my head around your suggestions ASAP.

JJ - Yes fully understand the actual classes will no doubt be whatever is most popular - we will iron out these details in due course.   Are you volunteering to be my Wingman in the running of this?

Everyone else who has commented and voted - thanks for your support.

Would you believe, thanks to the forum tutorials and JJs PM's actually have a server up! Called Daily Race Server. Still needs testing and fine tuning and the PC it is hosted on needs all the tracks, Bikes, etc loaded but Im cheering so far.

If anyone has the time to see if they can join etc please let me know your findings.  Dont expect it to work all properly just yet Im just playing but I cant do any more on it for a few hours now. Use Default bikes only.......MotoGP Quallie time!
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: JJS209 on March 28, 2015, 03:15:40 PM
looks like we got an uncertain result... :O

Maybe another, following poll would be usefull to decide which classes whould be in the week.


GP125 and/or Moto3;

GP250 and/or SSP600 and/or Moto 2;

STK1000 and/or SBK and/or GP500 and/or GP800 and/or GP1000;

/////////

@hawk maybe we could open up a new sectiong in RACING called somethink like "Daily Races" and e.g. a thread with the date and the todays raceinfos inside.
5/6/7 Days and 9/10 classes (-GP800?)

////////

like hawk already said, we will need someone who will do the work. and i think it will be a lot to keep it daily actual. so it would maybe good when there would be more than just one guy doing this.

Good idea JJ!!  ;D

The forum "Global Moderator" (WALKEN) is the man to contact to arrange that. But first it needs to be decided who is going to be the "Events Promotor" to deal with all the forum posts required because for Walken to arrange a special dedicated section in the forum "Racing" thread he will need to assign a person or persons as "Moderators" of those dedicated sections of the forum.

I think considering the poll was posted very late last night(if not even the early morning of today), the response of 14 riders so far is very good.  I think we could do with around 30 to make sure we always have a good number of riders on the grid, this will allow for a large percentage who will probably not want to race everyday. If we don't get enough riders make it worth putting on an event everyday, then we can always cut it down to say two events per week depending on the call for it.  :)

I will make a new poll to decide which bike categories riders want during the week.  ;)


Hawk
PS: We already have Nick and JJS on board, but we need aothers to help also. So anyone who is willing to help organise these Daily Race Events please speak up.... This is a chance for you to get involved.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Donnie on March 28, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
This would be great for me.  More often than not I can't make organised races due to work and with the season starting up again weekends are a no go.

 
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: JJS209 on March 28, 2015, 05:47:54 PM
for sure i will help you with that, but also my time is restricted. so i can't be there every evening.

i think the best would be to make some "easy" daily-race-schedule. e.g. starts every evening on 20.00 CEST; how the rider sign-in; when sign-in is closed;... things like that.
the more easy these things are, the better/faster/easyer would the orga of the races would be, i think.

if there would be 4 or 5 reliable Orga's, i would like ti give it a try.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 06:23:40 PM
Guys,

I'm happy to run with this as the 'Events co-ordinator' no worries and I will do 90% of the work. All I need is a wing-man who can run a couple of days when I  can't make it. Once I have sorted the format this will be easy enough when I can't do it.
JJ's  my man I think.  ;D

So as far as I'm concerned its just a case of numbers interested - if we hit 30 leave it to me and I'll sort it then all anyone needs to do is advise me along the way and have some race fun  :)

Boomshakalakka  8)
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 06:37:39 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 06:23:40 PM
Guys,

I'm happy to run with this as the 'Events co-ordinator' no worries and I will do 90% of the work. All I need is a wing-man who can run a couple of days when I  can't make it. Once I have sorted the format this will be easy enough when I can't do it.
JJ's  my man I think.  ;D

So as far as I'm concerned its just a case of numbers interested - if we hit 30 leave it to me and I'll sort it then all anyone needs to do is advise me along the way and have some race fun  :)

Boomshakalakka  8)

Nice to hear that Nick!  ;D

Sounds like you just need to confirm with JJ which days he is able to stand in for you.  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 28, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
It will be days I'm too sick to get out of bed or when I go on holiday or when I need a break.  :P

Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 28, 2015, 08:05:09 PM
I've posted the new poll, JJS suggested, so riders can select which bike categories they want to ride during the weeks events.

This will be useful information to provide riders with the categories they want to race with..... So please vote!  ;D

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2160.0 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2160.0)

Hawk.

Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: nuovaic on March 29, 2015, 06:04:12 PM
This is a good idea,
Today I saw there was a daily server with an old nds version of Assen, could not connect as I don't have it. Could you use the latest versions please? Thanks.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 29, 2015, 06:19:56 PM
Hi Nuovaic,

yes sorry that server is only just being set up and was a test track for my own checking of server automatic results saving etc today.

This daily event is not yet ALIVE but is coming! As you may have read about and VOTED on????? :P

However, the tracks and bikes are now the latest - synchronisation has occurred!

I would appreciate people trying to join it to make sure all the settings are correct and Pings are OK etc.

Let me know if there are any problems please guys.

But also remember this Event is not yet ALIVE....just yet.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: nuovaic on March 29, 2015, 06:54:20 PM
Ok, sorry my bad! posted without digesting my food..
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 29, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: nuovaic on March 29, 2015, 06:54:20 PM
Ok, sorry my bad! posted without digesting my food..

Hehe  ;D not at all its nice to know people can see it
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Super Taranta ! on March 29, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
You know my vote very well :D
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 04:05:47 PM
Shame really. 833 members (most of which are GpBikes members?) and less than 25 interested. This is going to be a no-goer.  :'(
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 31, 2015, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 04:05:47 PM
Shame really. 833 members (most of which are GpBikes members?) and less than 25 interested. This is going to be a no-goer.  :'(

Hi Nick.

The main core of GPB members that ride regularly online in events are about 20 - 30 members, so if you consider how many of those won't be able to join the daily events due to other priorities then 20 - 25 interests is very good! Remember we can only get 24 riders on a server at maximum server capacity.
Also I think that once it has been running for a few weeks we will get many more wishing to join-in the races.  ;D

If you look on the forum stats you will find that there is only the 20 - 30 hard core members that really keep things going around here(even some of those disappear for a while then come back for another stint before disappearing again). Others just seem to join and then we hardly hear from them for some reason.

But certainly members response to entering events is hugely better than it used to be and from my perspective is getting greater all the time now.

I'd say give it a go... If not many riders are wanting to race everyday then cut it down to once a week and see how it goes from there. Or even start it from once a week events? Everyday events is a lot of work especially for one guy(namely yourself) doing 99.9% of the organisation of it all.  ;)

It's easy to get things out of perspective when you just look at the total membership of this forum. As long as there are enough interested riders to form a good start grid then that's what matters.  ;D

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 06:13:08 PM
Hi Hawk,

Yes I was only discussing having just one day with JJ today.  If Tuesday is SBK day, Saturday is wss600 and Sunday is Moto3 then maybe Thursday is the ideal day.

Could do with a grid full of people getting on my server to test it.  JJs ping seemed to be all over the place today which has me a bit worried.

Anyway, thanks for the upbeat pep talk it has raised my enthusiasm again.  8)
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 31, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 06:13:08 PM
Hi Hawk,

Yes I was only discussing having just one day with JJ today.  If Tuesday is SBK day, Saturday is wss600 and Sunday is Moto3 then maybe Thursday is the ideal day.

Could do with a grid full of people getting on my server to test it.  JJs ping seemed to be all over the place today which has me a bit worried.

Anyway, thanks for the upbeat pep talk it has raised my enthusiasm again.  8)

Hi Nick.

I'd suggest you promote a test event. Advertise it a week in advance to give people chance to organise themselves to take part. Choose the most popular bikeset from the poll to do it, hopefully that way we will get the most riders wanting to take part in the test event.  :)

If you like I can do a poll to decide the best day to do the once a week races, again it will hopefully ensure the most competitors for the race day events right from the start.  ;)

Thanks Nick!  ;D


Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
Yes please Hawk go for the poll.

I will contact Walken and see if he will give me a child board and some control for it.

And I would ask anyone else reading this to please go have a few laps on my server (currently called Daily Race Server) to see if there are any problems (particularly ping) and let me know.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 31, 2015, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
Yes please Hawk go for the poll.

I will contact Walken and see if he will give me a child board and some control for it.

And I would ask anyone else reading this to please go have a few laps on my server (currently called Daily Race Server) to see if there are any problems (particularly ping) and let me know.

Many thanks

No probs, I will do that Poll Vote now..... Then I'll come online and test your Race Server if it's still up there right now?  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: Hawk UK on March 31, 2015, 07:49:14 PM

No probs, I will do that Poll Vote now..... Then I'll come online and test your Race Server if it's still up there right now?  ;)

Hawk.
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Thanks I see it. Sorry I missed your question earlier. I leave the server on a few days now.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Hawk on March 31, 2015, 11:30:21 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 31, 2015, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: Hawk UK on March 31, 2015, 07:49:14 PM


No probs, I will do that Poll Vote now..... Then I'll come online and test your Race Server if it's still up there right now?  ;)

Hawk.

Thanks I see it. Sorry I missed your question earlier. I leave the server on a few days now.

Hi Nick.
I've just been online and connected to your server with no problems at all.  ;D 8)

Sorry I wasn't on your race server earlier when I posted above.... My PC started to lock up for some reason and I had to go through some system/disk checks to sort it out and that took ages to complete.  ::)

It would be good to go through all the different server bike categories to make sure they all work fine. I will be online tomorrow and go through them all if you like?  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Daily Fun Race Events Poll...... Please vote guys.
Post by: Napalm Nick on April 01, 2015, 08:14:38 AM
Thanks man,

Let's wait for Klaxs Bike Mod update today then I want to go back to FTP mode. Currently it has a Mega load. Me and JJ tried a few different bikes there  yesterday so all should be good.

The main test will be if the SBK bike sets all match up.

Thanks for your help.