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Title: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on August 16, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
(http://www.daidegasforum.com/images/1714/eskil-suter-muz-500gp.jpg)

also for Christmas.

A+
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on August 16, 2015, 08:39:38 AM
Looking forward to it mate  ;D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: CapeDoctor on August 16, 2015, 08:42:46 AM
definitely keen to see this in the sim - and ride it, of course!  good luck with it!  8)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Hawk on August 16, 2015, 09:51:31 AM
Can we bring Christmas forward this year! Hehe  ;D

Looking forward to this one Franco!  ;) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Alone on August 16, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Great model!!!!! Looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: C21 on August 16, 2015, 10:51:13 AM
That´s one of the missing 500cc.
Great Work!!!  ;D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Davide74 on August 16, 2015, 11:03:27 AM
The bike just dreaming !! Thank you!
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 11, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Hello,
here is what is done, this is the result as promised.
Motorcycle Cadalora is ready, this is the result as promised.
I hope you enjoy this model.
Best regards.

(http://www.pizzagalli.ch/MUZ/MZ_roc1.GIF)
(http://www.pizzagalli.ch/MUZ/MZ_roc2.GIF)

the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvlyt6eyv5xkt9x/GP500_1998_MZ-ROC.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvlyt6eyv5xkt9x/GP500_1998_MZ-ROC.zip?dl=0)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Davide74 on February 11, 2016, 07:36:30 PM
Nice!! Thx!!
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 11, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
Looks Great, well done and thanks ! Look forward to trying it soooon.  :)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: PeterV on February 11, 2016, 08:15:14 PM
ty very much
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Hawk on February 11, 2016, 09:54:30 PM
Great job mate! Thank you!  ;D 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Alone on February 12, 2016, 01:13:20 AM
Looks great! Thank you
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: CapeDoctor on February 12, 2016, 05:13:04 AM
great stuff - thanks franco, this will be my ride for the weekend!  8)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: C21 on February 12, 2016, 02:16:47 PM
THX!  :D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 13, 2016, 07:22:49 AM
It is the year 1999, the most interesting, which is described below.

In summary, 1998 was a year of transition with little result.

1999, evidence of the potential of MuZ is made, it will be his best and unfortunately his last year.

  The members of the team Biland MuZ Weber-GP1

    Drivers: Jurgen Van den Goorbergh, Luca Cadalora, Noriyasu Numata (replacement), Simon Crafar (replacement), Bernard Garcia (replacement)

     Anthony Gobert (replacement)

    Team Leaders: Andy Wuthrich, Thierry Feuz

     

    the former champion sidecar Rolf Biland took over the reins of the team, will be the team Biland GP1.

    The Muz also included sponsorship of the German Weber, engine block manufacturer.

however it will not be the only changes. Disappointed by the frame of the bike, the team continues the association with ROC.

The new chassis was designed by former test pilot Eskil Suter and manufactured by the British company FABTECH.

It will be a year of ups and downs for Muz.

Cadalora not keep its promises, it difficult to pilot character will jump 2 races, the Japanese GP by demotivation. The cause is focusing difficult from the motorcycle.

Noriyasu Numata (JPN) inherits the bike and qualified well in the last second, he finished 13th in the race, very honorable given the conditions.

Cadalora back to the 3rd race. Thanks to the work of the team and from that date the MuZ is a clear improvement.

Both drivers are regularly qualified in the top 10, and at the GP of Catalunya, van den Goorbergh gave the MuZ his first pole position,

with 0.3 seconds better than some of Max Biaggi.

He later remade one second pole, this time in Brno, just ahead of Alex Crivillé.

Moreover, Cadalora, is third in qualifying. But they could achieve this success in the race. The best finish 8th.

While Van den Goorbergh keeps morale with his success skills, Cadalora was clearly suffering from a severe lack of motivation.

He again skipped a race - Donington - and was replaced by Simon Crafar (NZ) who finished 10th.

Cadalora returns for the German GP, ​​but will be the last time. He was then replaced by Bernard Garcia (SPA) for two races

which in turn was replaced by Anthony Gobert (AUS) for the last four races.

Gobert and Van den Goorbergh have qualified in the top 10 in the penultimate round, the Brazilian Grand Prix,

but again, no driver can not reproduce the rhythm of qualifications on the day of the race.

The Weber Muz-end, like last year, 5th Championship, but with a much more credible score of 64 pts instead of 11pts.

The team had reached 6 dan ten rankings, 2 poles and 2 lap records.

The bike has really revealed impressive top speed potential, even compared to the Honda motorcycle factory.

The MuZ was even the most powerful motorcycle, but the management of this power (brutal) could not sustain a comparison with the flexibility of Honda,

which, of course, made it difficult to drive.

The team had hoped Cadalora proved to be the runner development, established and experienced, they needed,

but the on-off relationship with the team Cadalora and punctual replacement has not really helped the development and profile of the MuZ.

Because of financial pressures, and no sponsor for next season, the team continues Muz GP at the end of 1999.

Motorcycles, themselves, have again been on the grid in 2001 under the name "500 Pulse".



11 years later, analyzing the documents of this MuZ, it is clear that this bike has strongly influance the development of Japanese motorcycle races.

Here are two good example.

The MuZ has no alternator, seen the limited duration of the race a single well battery charged enough to make the GP.

This results in a gain of weight and reliability.

The engine, V4, had a crankshaft bearings 3 and not 5 steps as the Honda engine.

This engine is very small in comparison engine Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda.

Google translate.

bye
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: BOBR6 84 on February 13, 2016, 09:28:05 PM
Cheers franco  8)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 16, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
Hey Franco don't forget to turn on the smoke for the Beta 8 version !

It is nice to ride and look at! Hopefully the Beta 8 changes will make all these bikes corner better on tracks with elevation changes.

And hopefully it will not be too much work to get all these MOD bikes back in post-B8.

Thanks.
:)

Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 17, 2016, 09:29:07 AM
Hello Napalm Nick,

I have not understand, what is the smoke ?, what is beta 8 ?

thank for your explications.
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Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 09:37:35 AM
Hi Franco!

Smoke/fume/rauchen/fumo/fum - From the exhaust like you see here at start  (:

https://www.youtube.com/v/3SbIb5rJShg

Beta 8 - the new version of GPBikes that will be released 'soon'  ;D

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2853.0
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 17, 2016, 09:48:36 AM
i don't have beta8
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Hmmm no-one does yet lol.

Smoke already available since Beta 7  :)




Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Hawk on February 17, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
Lol.... Looks like you have some dodgy oil mix there Nick! Hehe.  ;D

Hawk
PS: Is that default bike or the GPB-Italia version?
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 11:28:08 AM
Hmm I can't remember what I chose to be honest. I think it was the ITA but the excess smoke tweak will work the same as the default because the smoke is an effect change not bike related. The TV cam style replays hardly show any smoke though. I was hoping the recent 125cc championship grid line-ups at the start would be smog bound on the replays but there is hardly a guff. lol. Hence my Beta 8 post.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 17, 2016, 12:20:46 PM
how to activate the smoke
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: h106frp on February 17, 2016, 12:28:37 PM
its in gfx.cfg under the 3P chassis section

   exhaust
   {
      num_pipes = 2
      pipe0
      {
         pos
         {
            x = 0
            y = 0.9
            z = -1.1
         }
         dir
         {
            x = 0
            y = 0
            z = -1
         }
      }
      pipe1
      {
         pos
         {
            x = 0.17
            y = 0.59
            z = -0.93
         }
         dir
         {
            x = 0
            y = 0.5
            z = -1
         }
      }

      smoke
      {
         top_rpm = 2500
         max_rpm = 4000
      }
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on February 17, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
Thanks H.

4 pipes! Needs to have all 4! LOL!
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on February 17, 2016, 04:23:37 PM
thank you that's nice
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on March 23, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
Hello,
Can someone explain to me what is the difference between GP7 and GP8,
my models no longer work on GP8.

I'd like to do for the realease GP8.

thank you in advance.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on March 23, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
Hi Franco great to hear your doing this. Manu has done a demo on his Ducati GP15 from 7 ro 8 so he is probably the best person to contact about it bro.

Cant wait to ride your bikes in beta8, it is sooooo much better.

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Blackheart on March 23, 2016, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: franco pizzagalli on March 23, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
Hello,
Can someone explain to me what is the difference between GP7 and GP8,
my models no longer work on GP8.

I'd like to do for the realease GP8.

thank you in advance.

HERE (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3114.0)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on March 23, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
PM Sent to you Franco :)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: HornetMaX on March 23, 2016, 07:48:10 PM
Quote from: franco pizzagalli on March 23, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
Hello,
Can someone explain to me what is the difference between GP7 and GP8,
my models no longer work on GP8.

I'd like to do for the realease GP8.

thank you in advance.

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3114.msg48778;topicseen#msg48778 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3114.msg48778;topicseen#msg48778)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on April 08, 2016, 02:13:59 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jqfgse2njqkdyxq/AADB8XOzHx9BWZEldWrKb63ca?dl=0

here is the link for MZ-ROC beta8.
Personally I find this complicated beta8 version for modders.
I have a question, what actions have the parameters FORK OFFSET, REAR RIDE HEIGHT, FRONT RIDE HEIGHT.
For the rest have fun.

Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Hawk on April 08, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: franco pizzagalli on April 08, 2016, 02:13:59 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnjecfuhsy9x7od/500_1998_MZ-ROC_B8.zip?dl=0

here is the link for MZ-ROC beta8.
Personally I find this complicated beta8 version for modders.
I have a question, what actions have the parameters FORK OFFSET, REAR RIDE HEIGHT, FRONT RIDE HEIGHT.
For the rest have fun.

Keep these 2 stroke beauties coming Franco!  :-* ;D

Thank you for your work mate, very much appreciated!  ;) 8) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Boerenlater on April 08, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
Thanks I will try both of them and give feedback if I think I can be constructive.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Napalm Nick on April 08, 2016, 06:35:39 PM
Ugh... links to bikes all over the forum, poor Matty  :-\

Still, thanks Franco love this bike :)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on April 09, 2016, 06:17:47 AM
a big thank you to Matty0l215,
he helped build the rear suspension, I do not conprenais.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Blackheart on April 09, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Hi Franco, in the default livery there is a error on wheel trim  ;)

P.S. I'm curious,  Matty what is your tip for the rear suspension? ;D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 09, 2016, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Blackheart on April 09, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Hi Franco, in the default livery there is a error on wheel trim  ;)

P.S. I'm curious,  Matty what is your tip for the rear suspension? ;D
Copy the rc990 not the v500....

It worked straight away which makes no sense...  ???
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 09, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
Making a new paint is a bit harder with the layout in these but its gonna be great to have 3 500 2strokes to race.

Thanks bro

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: h106frp on April 09, 2016, 11:36:46 AM
Sorry its a bit of topic but do you have example of real bikes that demonstrate the difference between;
Linkage Rod Chassis and Linkage Rocker Chassis as defined by PB.

Managed to get somewhere by reverting to 'Classic' for suspension type, this reverts to a setup similar to B7 and might be an easier way to recover some of the older MODs
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: HornetMaX on April 09, 2016, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: h106frp on April 09, 2016, 11:36:46 AM
Sorry its a bit of topic but do you have example of real bikes that demonstrate the difference between;
Linkage Rod Chassis and Linkage Rocker Chassis as defined by PB.

Managed to get somewhere by reverting to 'Classic' for suspension type, this reverts to a setup similar to B7 and might be an easier way to recover some of the older MODs
That was exactly my fear about all this new suspension stuff: it's way too complex for the average modder.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on April 10, 2016, 03:00:44 PM


https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnjecfuhsy9x7od/500_1998_MZ-ROC_B8.zip?dl=0

new link with the corrected texture.

I'm testing with the classic suspension and this is even more difficult to operate properly.
I prefer the suspension Linkage Rod Chassis

Cordialy.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 10, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Dead link bro?

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 10, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on April 10, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Dead link bro?

DD

It appears to be uploading still for me...
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 10, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
Ok cheers bro

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: franco pizzagalli on April 10, 2016, 03:25:11 PM
Scuse me, probleme with dropbox, yet it is ok
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 10, 2016, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: franco pizzagalli on April 10, 2016, 03:25:11 PM
Scuse me, probleme with dropbox, yet it is ok

That's better, thanks mate :)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 10, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Got it thanks Franco you are excused lol

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: Urban Chaos 2.0 on April 13, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
Hmm.. I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 13, 2016, 02:46:11 PM
This and the MUZ are being released via the BikeMOD tomorrow. They will be available then

Edit- Because I can't Spell :P
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 13, 2016, 06:07:12 PM
this? and the MUZ?  ???

Resealed??

you on an iphone ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 13, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 13, 2016, 06:07:12 PM
this? and the MUZ?  ???

Resealed??

you on an iphone ?  ;D ;D

S6... my engrish is not to good :P

The MUZ is another bike BTW  ;D
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 13, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 13, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
The MUZ is another bike BTW  ;D

Oh dear..  :-[ which one is that then? from franco?
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: matty0l215 on April 13, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 13, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on April 13, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
The MUZ is another bike BTW  ;D

Oh dear..  :-[ which one is that then? from franco?

Yes :)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: CapeDoctor on June 04, 2016, 10:14:27 AM
sorry to be so late to the party here - been trying this out recently, however, both this and the MUZ 500 both give me a CTD when i try to change to first person/onboard view.
is this because of a faulty download or some other issue i'm unaware of?
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 04, 2016, 10:28:20 AM
I have not had this happen or heard of it DOC.

I would defo re download and try again OR GPB HAS DONE ITS NORMAL TRICK AND TAKEN A DUMP, do an overinstall of GPB but remember to back up any ini files you edit.

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: CapeDoctor on June 04, 2016, 10:44:41 AM
will do, thanks mate -
just noticed, although the file names are the same, the two MUZ bikes download file sizes seem to differ.
mine are 58MB and 78MB in size, whereas the two i'm now d/l'ing from the bike mod are 41MB and 49MB....
hopefully that will explain things. will get back with results asap.  ;)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 04, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
Let me know the size when open mine are 133MB and 168MB extracted

DD
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: CapeDoctor on June 06, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
okay, extracted sizes are same as yours, DD,
after doing a re-download i got initial testing and the ROC went into first-person cam view, no problem, but the MUZ crashed the game again when trying it.
to make matters worse, it seems that once i have experienced this cockpit view crash, then i seem to get the same crash when trying cockpit view (lol, that's the flight sim-head in me coming out  ;D ) with the other bikes.
seems like a fresh game reinstall might be in order, as i'm now also encountering game ctd's when using tany of the MotoGP mod bikes at Mugello - right at that spot at the end of the straight when you are low-flying, when you have to brake for turn 1 - happens each and every time, same spot, with any of those bikes. others are fine.
so yeah - i guess when strange stuff like that starts happening, time for a reinstall.
loving beta 8, btw - although i find it almost impossible to lift the bike out of trouble spots like i used to....but that's for another thread, i think ;)
Title: Re: MZ ROC 500
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 06, 2016, 09:00:25 AM
As I said, fresh game install over present install works best a lot of the time

DD