We are back guys!
Today we release the fantastic Aprilia RSW500, the 3D was build by Franco Pizzagalli (thanks to let us work on this).
We gave to this bike a new adapted physics, build from scratch.
(http://media.motoblog.it/a/apr/aprilia-rsw-500-1999-2000/01_aprilia_rsw_500_harada_2000_01.jpg)
DOWNLOAD v1.1 (http://158.58.173.174/gpb-dw/GP500_2000_Aprilia_RSW500_v.1.1.rar)
Server for this bike is already online!
HAVE FUN RIDING THIS BIKE!!!
TEMPLATE AVALIABLE HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3pmck1hk6esjmyi/RSW500_TEMPLATE.rar?dl=0)
GPB Italia Staff
First good news I've had all night..... Can't wait to try this bike! ;D
Eagerly awaiting release..... Thanks guys! ;D 8)
Hawk.
8) 8) can't wait
SERVER UP
There is a major problem with the bike!! :o
I've just been testing this bike online and I must say that this bike is a BRILLIANT ride. Just shows what can be done with the bike physics.... A great job Team GPB Italia, a superb job in fact! ;D
Thank you also to Franco for permissions to GPB Italia to work on this beauty!
You've made my day... Well done guys! ;D ;D 8) 8)
Hawk.
PS What's the problem Matty?
Names wrong ;)
Quote from: matty0l215 on October 30, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
There is a major problem with the bike!! :o
Maybe you can help us to solve this problem no? :o
Quote from: matty0l215 on October 30, 2015, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: ALEale on October 30, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on October 30, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
There is a major problem with the bike!! :o
Maybe you can help us to solve this problem no? :o
Quote from: matty0l215 on October 30, 2015, 10:20:49 PM
Names wrong ;)
I think ALEale is asking you what format the name should be Matty..... I presume you do mean the correct naming of the bike folder name for inclusion into the BikeMOD Database? :)
Hawk.
This bike is simply brilliant, I had never enjoyed in GP Bikes.
The rear controls really well, this is the first time I controlled slide with a 2T motorcycle braking control is very good, its lightness is perfect for a circuit like Philip Island.
To take one small negative point is the modeling would put the bike you are going to work more on 3d?
Thank you for creating this wonder for our great GP Bikes.
(http://logoonline.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:newnownext.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/tumblr_md2j4wiEiK1r36zdmo1_500.gif)
Great bike! TY ;D
please add smoke ;D 8)
Thanks to all guys
Davide, i don't think we will, we are busy lately and also for this we asked to Franco to use his model (thanks again).
We hope to do some races with this and maybe a champ in q1 2016 :)
Thanks to everyone!
We try to do our best to keep GpBikes on a good level... It's hard but possible :P
Quote from: ALEale on October 30, 2015, 11:38:07 PM
Thanks to everyone!
We try to do our best to keep GpBikes on a good level... It's hard but possible :P
eh... you like when it's hard... ahahahahah
fabio and co - thanks very much for the great bike!
i'll be testing it over the weekend, will report back with how it goes. 8)
Thanks !!
Quote from: fabio93bg on October 30, 2015, 11:15:58 PM
Thanks to all guys
Davide, i don't think we will, we are busy lately and also for this we asked to Franco to use his model (thanks again).
We hope to do some races with this and maybe a champ in q1 2016 :)
ok, no problem ;)
Sorry guys :P
I'll add it to the Database but please could you change the name for your next update.
GP500_(Year?)_Aprillia_RWS500_v1
well, i've done a few dozen laps around Victoria, and the bike is just awesome!
i absolutely love the physics - whether it's a combination of b7 improvements and the bike physics, i don't know - whatever the case, this bike is a real gem to ride. :D
are there any templates available, or being planned?
i'd love to try and o a few paints for it... 8)
For the templates, we are going to aks to Franco if he could give these to us :)
F93BG
we are racing with it at the moment and its a lot of fun for me in combination with beta7b.
before i just tryed the mura out and it was horrible like the bike was in beta6c
BUT a little rollout with the fz6 and now the race let hope grew...
Guys - I got to try the RSW500 tonight and race it with four of us at Silverstone.
As I said to those players this is the first time I have felt actually in control of a bike on this game and felt like I could actually push it.
Really awesome I had a LOT of fun tonight, more than for a long time :)
Thanks !
I really hope the other 500s are similar too 8)
Simply Awesome!
You know another thing I like with this bike is that in 1st person riding you can hear the knee sliders pretty good! Lol must be because the engine samples are not too loud! ;D
Bloody hard to ride in 1st person though :-[
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 01, 2015, 03:22:20 PM
You know another thing I like with this bike is that in 1st person riding you can hear the knee sliders pretty good! Lol must be because the engine samples are not too loud! ;D
Bloody hard to ride in 1st person though :-[
Now that's something I haven't tried yet in beta 7b(1st person view). I have not been able to hear the knee sliders either yet; I'll have to give this 1st person view a try and see if I can hear them now.
Thanks for that Nick! ;D
Hawk.
i agree with Nick's previous comment - the knee slider sound seems much louder on the Aprilia than the other bikes, most likely due to lower sound sample volume for the engine?
and i agree, it's pretty tricky to ride this bike in first-person view, but oh-so-sweet in third person, lol :D
But no exhaust smoke :'(
1st person is no different to beta 6 :P
and the knee sliders work fine ;D
Quote from: matty0l215 on November 01, 2015, 04:09:44 PM
1st person is no different to beta 6 :P
and the knee sliders work fine ;D
it was different for me at first.. like the riders head stayed in line with the bike.. very strange :o ok now i messed with the settings.
as i always ride 3rd person, not a lot had changed :P
But i swear the UI is smaller...
Quote from: matty0l215 on November 01, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
as i always ride 3rd person, not a lot had changed :P
But i swear the UI is smaller...
I certainly think the font size is smaller, definitely in places on the UI for sure.
Hawk.
very good bike. You can feel the rear when slides and correct it.
in the 3d model the rear wheel axle is missing. and there is no exhaust smoke
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 01, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
But no exhaust smoke :'(
will be added in a few days with a new release... :)
Great bike guys ;)
#HopeForGP500Championship
Are the mini/moped bikes going to be released in the future? I was really hoping to drive those things ;D
Quote from: tseklias on November 01, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
Are the mini/moped bikes going to be released in the future? I was really hoping to drive those things ;D
are you talking about Piaggio Zip SP and Vespa?
Quote from: CapeDoctor on November 01, 2015, 03:32:21 PM
i agree with Nick's previous comment - the knee slider sound seems much louder on the Aprilia than the other bikes, most likely due to lower sound sample volume for the engine?
and i agree, it's pretty tricky to ride this bike in first-person view, but oh-so-sweet in third person, lol :D
Its pretty good in first person but needs finishing, no textures or paint and the dash does not work, also some issues with overlaps on 3D model objects (dash and bars)
Waaaw amazing bike......thanks....."And the oscar goes to?"..... ;)
What a bike ... i really enjoy it!! ... Do you mind sharing a blank livery file with us? Would love to customize it
~doN
Ok I have done many laps with this bike now.. Its alot of fun! Very very stable, turns good, progressive tyre grip etc etc etc..
Here's what concerns me..
It is completely different to the varese500.. In fact if we race both bikes together the varese will not stand a chance.
How can this be? Is piboso's bike way off the mark??
In all honesty this reminds me of the situation with rodney007 a while ago.. He/they built the KTM RC8 and it was completely different to anything else with the tyre grip etc.. He was hung, drawn and quartered for the physics changes he made.. What is the difference here?
This is an honest, polite, serious question!
I know nothing about bike modding by the way.. Just the handling.
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 02, 2015, 03:04:49 AM
Ok I have done many laps with this bike now.. Its alot of fun! Very very stable, turns good, progressive tyre grip etc etc etc..
Here's what concerns me..
It is completely different to the varese500.. In fact if we race both bikes together the varese will not stand a chance.
How can this be? Is piboso's bike way off the mark??
In all honesty this reminds me of the situation with rodney007 a while ago.. He/they built the KTM RC8 and it was completely different to anything else with the tyre grip etc.. He was hung, drawn and quartered for the physics changes he made.. What is the difference here?
This is an honest, polite, serious question!
I know nothing about bike modding by the way.. Just the handling.
you forgot that this bike is from 2000/2001 and the varese is from 1994. Tyres and bikes have changed a lot in 6 years
This bike is almost too stable on the brakes compared to the stock bikes, it will haul up in straight line under really heavy braking with no issues.
It would make a good starter bike for the GPB demo, very much easier to ride than any of the other bikes.
Quote from: Alby46 on November 02, 2015, 08:00:00 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 02, 2015, 03:04:49 AM
Ok I have done many laps with this bike now.. Its alot of fun! Very very stable, turns good, progressive tyre grip etc etc etc..
Here's what concerns me..
It is completely different to the varese500.. In fact if we race both bikes together the varese will not stand a chance.
How can this be? Is piboso's bike way off the mark??
In all honesty this reminds me of the situation with rodney007 a while ago.. He/they built the KTM RC8 and it was completely different to anything else with the tyre grip etc.. He was hung, drawn and quartered for the physics changes he made.. What is the difference here?
This is an honest, polite, serious question!
I know nothing about bike modding by the way.. Just the handling.
you forgot that this bike is from 2000/2001 and the varese is from 1994. Tyres and bikes have changed a lot in 6 years
;D ;D this bike could rival a gp bike from 2060! ;D
but anyway.. don't get me wrong, its an enjoyable bike, i like it.. ;)
It's true but all lap times in gp bikes are faster than real life, for example in beta 6c it was possible to lap a 1.25 at victoria with the 2003 rcv, while the fastest lap in 2003 was 1.31. For the rsw we only used real data, the rest belongs to gpbikes's physics
Quoteit is completely different to the varese500.. In fact if we race both bikes together the varese will not stand a chance.
That was the reason to develop the own physic of the bike. It was not intended to race against the Varese or other "old" GP500 derivates. Thay won´t have a chance.
QuoteHow can this be? Is piboso's bike way off the mark??
That´s a good question...but to say it first...no Piboso´s Varese is not off the mark.
let´s take a comparison:
(
Attention: I don´t want to rate the MOD done by GPItalia , they always do great work and the bikes rides fantastic! I´m a neutral spectator and would only shed some light onto it)
1) Tyres
Although the tyres are named identically they are different. In B7b tyres of Varese consist of a lot more variables then ones on the RSW500.
The physical structure (let say it this way) of the tyre is different.
The dry and wet grip factor is still the same between both bikes.
2) physics (cfg file)
RSW500 is about 15kg lighter then Varese(!).
Basic engine values are identically. (in my opinion the the RSW should have a higher inertia then the VArese but...)
Masses are corrected in the way the Varese is calculated.
The main difference is in the steering.
The steering physics are way different between both bikes creating a substantial different feeling.
Suspension is still the same on both bikes.
3) geom (bikeed)
- RSW did not use ground clearence, seat height, pressure center2 for calculation.
- Aerodynamic center is higher and more front based then on VArese.
Using Bikeed the geom is not 100% accurate. If you open the VArese.geom all points are where they should be acc. Bikeed.
On the RSW are some points out of center , did not match the 3d graphic. Rear suspension mass is more backward then on the Varese.
Does it make a big effect? Don´t think so.
4) engine file:
RSW: 109.6kw/12045 rpm - 92.1Nm/10383 rpm - difference max power-maxtourque -> 1652 rpm
VArese: 140kw/12466 rpm - 108.3Nm/12100 rpm - difference max power-maxtourque -> 366 rpm
The Varese engine is way more peaky then the RSW one. It´s a lot easier to drive the RSW. It has a smooth power band compared to the Varese all or nothing powerband.
Conclusion:
The RSW is really good modelled and the physic is great. AND it´s all within the specific values of GPB. No values out of bound or incorretly converted taking the Varese as base (as it was done with the KTM).
Why is the RSW that fast?
Because it is a lot easier to drive.
There is no magic done to the RSW making it that good. The bike is good out of the box and 5 years younger then the V594.
Build a 1999 NSR500 with decent physics and you have a competitor.
Justmy2cent :)
Quote from: C21 on November 02, 2015, 08:48:41 AM
Quoteit is completely different to the varese500.. In fact if we race both bikes together the varese will not stand a chance.
That was the reason to develop the own physic of the bike. It was not intended to race against the Varese or other "old" GP500 derivates. Thay won´t have a chance.
QuoteHow can this be? Is piboso's bike way off the mark??
That´s a good question...but to say it first...no Piboso´s Varese is not off the mark.
let´s take a comparison:
(Attention: I don´t want to rate the MOD done by GPItalia , they always do great work and the bikes rides fantastic! I´m a neutral spectator and would only shed some light onto it)
1) Tyres
Although the tyres are named identically they are different. In B7b tyres of Varese consist of a lot more variables then ones on the RSW500.
The physical structure (let say it this way) of the tyre is different.
The dry and wet grip factor is still the same between both bikes.
2) physics (cfg file)
RSW500 is about 15kg lighter then Varese(!).
Basic engine values are identically. (in my opinion the the RSW should have a higher inertia then the VArese but...)
Masses are corrected in the way the Varese is calculated.
The main difference is in the steering.
The steering physics are way different between both bikes creating a substantial different feeling.
Suspension is still the same on both bikes.
3) geom (bikeed)
- RSW did not use ground clearence, seat height, pressure center2 for calculation.
- Aerodynamic center is higher and more front based then on VArese.
Using Bikeed the geom is not 100% accurate. If you open the VArese.geom all points are where they should be acc. Bikeed.
On the RSW are some points out of center , did not match the 3d graphic. Rear suspension mass is more backward then on the Varese.
Does it make a big effect? Don´t think so.
4) engine file:
RSW: 109.6kw/12045 rpm - 92.1Nm/10383 rpm - difference max power-maxtourque -> 1652 rpm
VArese: 140kw/12466 rpm - 108.3Nm/12100 rpm - difference max power-maxtourque -> 366 rpm
The Varese engine is way more peaky then the RSW one. It´s a lot easier to drive the RSW. It has a smooth power band compared to the Varese all or nothing powerband.
Conclusion:
The RSW is really good modelled and the physic is great. AND it´s all within the specific values of GPB. No values out of bound or incorretly converted taking the Varese as base (as it was done with the KTM).
Why is the RSW that fast?
Because it is a lot easier to drive.
There is no magic done to the RSW making it that good. The bike is good out of the box and 5 years younger then the V594.
Build a 1999 NSR500 with decent physics and you have a competitor.
Justmy2cent :)
no words, just quoting :) thanks
(http://i.imgur.com/s3AoP.gif)
Which is ANOTHER good reason to use the folder name structure that Matty has suggested for the bike mod.
Because it has the bikes YEAR in the description - easier to find equal races in a category.
Please adopt this idea it is such a simple solution to avoid a jumbled mess of bikes. :-\
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 02, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
Which is ANOTHER good reason to use the folder name structure that Matty has suggested for the bike mod.
Because it has the bikes YEAR in the description - easier to find equal races in a category.
Please adopt this idea it is such a simple solution to avoid a jumbled mess of bikes. :-\
Will be modified as soon as possible
Thanks
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UPDATED TO V 1.1
-added exhaust smoke
-name fix
server not updated ;)
Quote from: C21 on November 02, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
server not updated ;)
will be ready as soon as possible sorry :)
SERVER UP!
Ok, thanks for explaining C21, Cheers!
Amazing job then guys ;D
Just wanted to say that I don't find the RSW to be much faster than the V4.
The corner speed is slightly higher (which is realistic) and the braking is a little bit better but it also lacks a good amount of power.
At Silverstone my times were almost identical and I could easily keep up with the guys on RSW.
Why are you all so much faster with RSW? :D
Quote from: vin97 on November 02, 2015, 05:33:45 PM
Just wanted to say that I don't find the RSW to be much faster than the V4.
The corner speed is slightly higher (which is realistic) and the braking is a little bit better but it also lacks a good amount of power.
At Silverstone my times were almost identical and I could easily keep up with the guys on RSW.
Why are you all so much faster with RSW? :D
to be honest i was just shocked at how good the bike handles.. compared to the varese the RSW is on rails.. absolutely no fear of crashing.
so.. i guess beta7 is a BIG step forward then. :)
great job with the smoke in the latest release, guys - me likey! 8)
QuoteJust wanted to say that I don't find the RSW to be much faster than the V4.
The corner speed is slightly higher (which is realistic) and the braking is a little bit better but it also lacks a good amount of power.
At Silverstone my times were almost identical and I could easily keep up with the guys on RSW.
It really depends on the track.
There are tracks were the Varese and other V4 will be faster then the RSW (Mugello, Monza,....) and there are tracks were the handling and better power curve / throttle response come in to account seeing the RSW in front.
Like in real life.
In my opinion it´s easier to ride a fast lap with the RSW then on the GP500-V4.
Maybe it´s time for a 2000 NSR V4 physic to show the difference ;)
I only had a few laps (I'm freakin' busy right now), but I think this is the bike it should come with the demo version of GPB. We should start a petition to Piboso, even if including it in GPB may mean change the name to something like "Noale_R500SW".
First, it's much better than the current stock 125. Second, even a good 125 is not really that dream bike players may get in love with. A 500 on the other hand ... at least it would be eye-catching to all the "Oh the 500cc era" grannies :)
Single remark I'd make (up to now at least): I don't think it wheelies enough for a 500cc.
MaX.
Quote from: C21 on November 02, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
Maybe it´s time for a 2000 NSR V4 physic to show the difference ;)
That would be fantastic! 8)
Quote from: HornetMaX on November 02, 2015, 09:57:25 PM
I only had a few laps (I'm freakin' busy right now), but I think this is the bike it should come with the demo version of GPB. We should start a petition to Piboso, even if including it in GPB may mean change the name to something like "Noale_R500SW".
First, it's much better than the current stock 125. Second, even a good 125 is not really that dream bike players may get in love with. A 500 on the other hand ... at least it would be eye-catching to all the "Oh the 500cc era" grannies :)
Single remark I'd make (up to now at least): I don't think it wheelies enough for a 500cc.
MaX.
Its a good idea, I agree!
But, is the demo really hampering sales? Probably, but when I found out about GPB I just payed up and downloaded straight away lol. I used the demo to make sure it worked ok on my pc at the time.. Nothing was going to stop me lol. ;D
Yea, we are a BIT spoiled. When I first saw GPBikes it was like upgrading from a Fiat to a F1 car. So 125 is fine, but needs to be playable.
Quote from: ALEale on November 01, 2015, 08:36:51 PM
are you talking about Piaggio Zip SP and Vespa?
No Ale i'm talking about those little devils ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/ndPHvWh.png)
I can understand that many here may laugh on these, but i would always choose less weight over more power(or acceleration over top speed) and these things are on this category :D
Quote from: tseklias on November 02, 2015, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: ALEale on November 01, 2015, 08:36:51 PM
are you talking about Piaggio Zip SP and Vespa?
No Ale i'm talking about those little devils ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/ndPHvWh.png)
I can understand that many here may laugh on these, but i would always choose less weight over more power(or acceleration over top speed) and these things are on this category :D
WOW it's a wip made by Ricco Chicco... Can't wait to try it :p
Quote
are you talking about Piaggio Zip SP and Vespa?
No Ale i'm talking about those little devils ;D
I can understand that many here may laugh on these, but i would always choose less weight over more power(or acceleration over top speed) and these things are on this category
I really like these bikes...it will be a lot of fun riding these bikes on Kart/Supermoto tracks!!
QuoteFirst, it's much better than the current stock 125. Second, even a good 125 is not really that dream bike players may get in love with. A 500 on the other hand ... at least it would be eye-catching to all the "Oh the 500cc era" grannies :)
Single remark I'd make (up to now at least): I don't think it wheelies enough for a 500cc.
+10000 on that MAX!!
This is the best bike out there right now (besides the Moto2, Moto3 bikes......Now im joking ;D)
I´m really impressed and delighted riding this one. Could be tweaked with real values of the engine but also in this state now this bike is wonderfull!
They put a big mark on the modding scene with this bike.
The wheelie behavior is enough in my opinion , no need to change that. (for my taste). It still puts the front wheel in the air in 5th gear on Victoria on the start finish line.
I would like to see independend gearing options (right now the gearing , primary and secondary is the same as VArese). This would be another step to the crown ;)
Quote from: C21 on November 03, 2015, 08:32:23 AM
The wheelie behavior is enough in my opinion , no need to change that. (for my taste). It still puts the front wheel in the air in 5th gear on Victoria on the start finish line.
That's because theres a bump on the track. But on flat, even in 1st gear sometimes it doesn't lift it up ... bit strange for that kind of bike.
Should probably wheelie a bit less than the varese (due to the power curve), but ...
MaX.
At full lean angle you can slip the clutch (in/out fast as many times as you want) it has no effect on the bike.
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
At full lean angle you can slip the clutch (in/out fast as many times as you want) it has no effect on the bike.
hmm....are we riding the same bike, cause i've tried that at Mugello circuit, and slipping the clutch most definitely has an effect.... bike gets out of shape, loses back end, quite easily....?
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
At full lean angle you can slip the clutch (in/out fast as many times as you want) it has no effect on the bike.
Not sure about this bike, but I'd have thought the powerband for a 2 stroke 500 would be more narrower and peaky than it currently is, but as I say, this bike is out of my era so maybe they found a way to provide that power in a wider RPM range than they used to in the classic era(1970's and 1980's) when GP500 2 stroke powerbands were almost all within a 3000 RPM powerband? That's what made the classic 500 2 strokes such nasty little beasts. Lol ;D
Hawk.
but at full lean angle surely popping the clutch would send any bike sliding down the track?
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
but at full lean angle surely popping the clutch would send any bike sliding down the track?
Well.... I'm not sure these days with all the electronic stabilizers they have integrated into modern racing bikes.... I mean look at what happened to Pedrosa when Marquez snapped his TC control wire to his rear wheel. Hehe ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
but at full lean angle surely popping the clutch would send any bike sliding down the track?
Well.... I'm not sure these days with all the electronic stabilizers they have integrated into modern racing bikes.... I mean look at what happened to Pedrosa when Marquez snapped his TC control wire to his rear wheel. Hehe ;D
Hawk.
lol ;D ;D
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
but at full lean angle surely popping the clutch would send any bike sliding down the track?
Well.... I'm not sure these days with all the electronic stabilizers they have integrated into modern racing bikes.... I mean look at what happened to Pedrosa when Marquez snapped his TC control wire to his rear wheel. Hehe ;D
Yes, these kids do not even have to steer the bike, they just sit on it and wait for the end of the race :)
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on November 03, 2015, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
but at full lean angle surely popping the clutch would send any bike sliding down the track?
Well.... I'm not sure these days with all the electronic stabilizers they have integrated into modern racing bikes.... I mean look at what happened to Pedrosa when Marquez snapped his TC control wire to his rear wheel. Hehe ;D
Yes, these kids do not even have to steer the bike, they just sit on it and wait for the end of the race :)
MaX.
I never thought I'd see the day you agree with me on this one Max. ;D
We are getting sarcastic in our old age, eh Max. ;D
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
At full lean angle you can slip the clutch (in/out fast as many times as you want) it has no effect on the bike.
Not sure about this bike, but I'd have thought the powerband for a 2 stroke 500 would be more narrower and peaky than it currently is, but as I say, this bike is out of my era so maybe they found a way to provide that power in a wider RPM range than they used to in the classic era(1970's and 1980's) when GP500 2 stroke powerbands were almost all within a 3000 RPM powerband? That's what made the classic 500 2 strokes such nasty little beasts. Lol ;D
Hawk.
This bike is a V2, and it's different to a V4 (most 2 stroke 500s were V4). It has less power then a V4, but it's got a flatter torque curve and it was very competitive in the rain and on tracks like old Sachsenring.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/race-report/69438/1/aoki-finishes-first-but-its-a-honda-pons-1-2.html
Quote from: BozoCRO on November 04, 2015, 10:02:51 AM
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on November 03, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
At full lean angle you can slip the clutch (in/out fast as many times as you want) it has no effect on the bike.
Not sure about this bike, but I'd have thought the powerband for a 2 stroke 500 would be more narrower and peaky than it currently is, but as I say, this bike is out of my era so maybe they found a way to provide that power in a wider RPM range than they used to in the classic era(1970's and 1980's) when GP500 2 stroke powerbands were almost all within a 3000 RPM powerband? That's what made the classic 500 2 strokes such nasty little beasts. Lol ;D
Hawk.
This bike is a V2, and it's different to a V4 (most 2 stroke 500s were V4). It has less power then a V4, but it's got a flatter torque curve and it was very competitive in the rain and on tracks like old Sachsenring.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/race-report/69438/1/aoki-finishes-first-but-its-a-honda-pons-1-2.html
Now I understand why the difference. 8)
Thanks for the info and explanation BozoCro. Appreciated mate. ;) 8)
Hawk.
Now we just need a triple like the RS500.
Quote from: vin97 on November 04, 2015, 04:25:35 PM
Now we just need a triple like the RS500.
Do you mean the NS500 Honda Triple 2 stroke GP Bike?
That is coming! ;D
Hawk.
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Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 04, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
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ROFL!! ;D ;D
Hawk.
Nice, as long as it's a V3 :D
The RS500 (on which Spencer won the championship in 83) is the customer version of the NS500 and it got official factory support until 1990 iirc.
The Modenas KR3 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Modenas-kr3.jpg) used by Team Kenny Roberts until 2003 had a modified RS500 engine (crankcase induction instead of cylinder) that produced 170hp and had 'modern' chassis and suspension.
Quote from: vin97 on November 04, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
Nice, as long as it's a V3 :D
The RS500 (on which Spencer won the championship in 83) is the customer version of the NS500 and it got official factory support until 1990 iirc.
The Modenas KR3 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Modenas-kr3.jpg) used by Team Kenny Roberts until 2003 had a modified RS500 engine (crankcase induction instead of cylinder) that produced 170hp and had 'modern' chassis and suspension.
Funny, I thought the KR3 had an engine developed specifically for it by Tom Walkinshaw racing..
Whilst both are V3, the RS500 had one downward pointing cylinder and two up (hence the two exhausts out the back of the seat), whilst the KR3 had two downward and one up, and I recall that was to allow a narrower twin beam chassis and keep the weight lower.
The RS could get away with the two up as it had more of a perimeter chassis and apparently handled equally well with an RG500 motor transplanted into it by a complete nutter who worked as a mechanic for a Grand Prix rider, amazing some of the kit that turned up at UK national meetings..
ADDED TEMPLATE DOWNLOAD LINK ON FIRST POST :)
Oh nice Ale thanks! 8)
THANKS FOR THE TEMPLATE! ... cant wait to do a custome
You're right, Allen.
I linked the wrong picture.
It's of an older version of the bike.
The modified RS engine was only used in the very latest model ('Proton' KR3):
(https://www.bikepics.com/pics/2005/10/19/bikepics-450767-full.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2002-Kenny-Roberts-Proton-KR3-Nobuatsu-Aoki-16.jpg)
Could you make "empty" (e.g. white) skin for Aprilia RSW500?
This one in the first post is difficult as a base for my own skin for this bike.
i'm also having difficulty doing a decent skin - seems there are some areas, such as 'centre-line' of tail piece (body, not exhaust) is not able to be edited properly. any extra bits and pieces would be much appreciated to make skinning easier.
it seems like the model is not nicely 'unwrapped' - if that is the correct term?
a pity, considering the bike itself is great!
Unfortunately we have only this template :(
Well... I can make only this:
(http://s25.postimg.org/gw3lythwu/screen016.jpg)
For me the template seems to work but when imported there still are the arrows from the base bike there even though my skin doesn't contain arrows at all. Might be a bike model issue. Also, would recommend making the template into PSD format as well to seperate the bike body from the mechanical parts. Would make skinning for the bike a lot easier. Anyways, it's a great bike to ride.