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Title: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 02, 2015, 10:21:44 PM
Hi. I've tried to find the same problem in the forum but I've found nothing similar.

I'm running Windows 10 x64 with the lastest Nvidia drivers. For more info I have a GTX 970, a Logitech G25, a Thrustmaster Hotas-X and some Saitek products connected.

I've also tried with administrator permissions and compatibility mode.

When I run GP Bikes it does absolutely nothing, also no error windows.

Any advice?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Blackheart on November 02, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Try with administrator permissions in compatibility options, with me works  :P
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 02, 2015, 10:45:00 PM
I forgot to mention that I've tried that already  :(. I will modify the first post.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Blackheart on November 02, 2015, 10:47:15 PM
Check if your antivirus stop the process "core.exe"  :-\
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: WALKEN on November 02, 2015, 11:42:50 PM
check your screen resolution.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: janaucarre on November 02, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
check if the game is well installed, if your antivirus was running during the installation perhaps it has blocked some files.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 03, 2015, 12:19:40 AM
Quote from: Blackheart on November 02, 2015, 10:47:15 PM
Check if your antivirus stop the process "core.exe"  :-\

Actually no. I'm using Windows Defender and it seems to not bock any GP Bikes files

Quote from: WALKEN on November 02, 2015, 11:42:50 PM
check your screen resolution.

Never had issues with screen resolution.

Quote from: janaucarre on November 02, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
check if the game is well installed, if your antivirus was running during the installation perhaps it has blocked some files.

I've make Windows Defender to not blocking any files, from the installer and from the target folder.

I've tried to install GP Bikes several times and it keeps not running.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 03, 2015, 12:23:06 AM
did you try downloading the files again.

If not do it again and SAVE them to your PC. Execute (run) the installation as administrator.

Might help, might not.

Oh and delete all the old files first!
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: CapeDoctor on November 03, 2015, 04:29:09 AM
yeah, i suggest re-downloading the file.
i also had strange problems with the first two attempts after downloading initially - i quote myself from an earlier post :

Quotei tried to install b7 just now, but for some reason, when i click on the exe, i get a windows error: 'the file is not compatible with your version of windows. check your computer's system information to see whether you need an x89(32-bit) or x64(64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher."
that is if i just run it as is.
if i try to run it as administrar, i get the following error: "windows cannot find the file gpbikes-beta7.exe. make sure you typed the name correctly and try again."
so, in essence, i simply cannot run the exe for b7.

for me, third time was the charm, and it worked perfectly.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 04, 2015, 01:07:56 AM
Tried all with any luck.

Is there any log file where I could get info about the crash?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: CapeDoctor on November 04, 2015, 06:13:51 AM
there's no log file that i'm aware of, especially if the game isn't even starting....
the only other thing i can think of - where have you installed the game?
if it's inside your Program Files folder, i'd suggest uninstalling it and installing to another folder outside of Program Files, such as C:\Games\ or something else....
because of the way the newer versions of Windoze handles permissions inside the Prog Files/Prog Files(x86) folders, there are known issues with installing many games inside it.
if that doesn't help, then i am stumped...
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 04, 2015, 07:38:12 AM
Hi,

MaX.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on November 04, 2015, 07:38:12 AM
Hi,

  • In which folder is GPB installed ?
  • Is there a core.ini file ? What's the content of that ?
  • Can you give the exact path of your "My Document" folder ?
  • Do you have a <My Documents>/Piboso/GP Bikes folder (Data folder (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=431.msg2999#msg2999))? Is there something inside ?

MaX.


Are you guys able to run GP Bikes in Windows 10?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: h106frp on November 06, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
I have had it running on windows 10 OK
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 06, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
The folder PiBoSo in my documents folder is actually empty, but it exists
Bad sign. It may mean that, for some reason, GPB is not able to write there.

Do the following: install in C:/GP Bikes (i.e. not under Program files).
The edit core.ini and set compatibility to 0 (zero): this will make GPB write all his data in the install dir (C:/GP Bikes) instead of using the usual dir ( C:\Users\David\Documents\PiBoSo\GP Bikes).

May not explain why the standard stuff doesn't work but may allow you to play :)
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on November 06, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
Do the following: install in C:/GP Bikes (i.e. not under Program files).
The edit core.ini and set compatibility to 0 (zero): this will make GPB write all his data in the install dir (C:/GP Bikes) instead of using the usual dir ( C:\Users\David\Documents\PiBoSo\GP Bikes).

May not explain why the standard stuff doesn't work but may allow you to play :)

I've tried right now and still doesn't run. The mouse pointer loading icon blinks twice and nothing happens. I've also took a look to the windows task manager and the process core.exe doesn't appears neither.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 06, 2015, 12:09:46 PM
Ouch, I'm out of ideas ... usually it's a bad sign.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 12:19:53 PM
Try this - it is a tried and tested version. Might work might not.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jb939vsm4cdu0t/gpbikes-beta7b.zip?dl=0

Ready!
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 12:19:53 PM
Try this - it is a tried and tested version. Might work might not.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jb939vsm4cdu0t/gpbikes-beta7b.zip?dl=0

Ready!

Thanks Napalm Nick. Tried it and doesn't work neither. I've tried installing it in program files and in C:/. Tried also Compatibility=0 and nothing happens.

This is getting really weird...
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 12:33:08 PM
Damn!

So try to make it run with your PC in Safe Mode?
Oh yeh Windows 10   :-X - http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2304-safe-mode-start-windows-10-a.html

Try to run with the exe set to different compatibility modes?

Im sure someone round here tried and got it working on W10 with no issues.

I think there must be another reason really tho.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Hawk on November 06, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
The only thing I can think for you to try, and I'm not sure if this will solve your problem but it's worth a try seeing as you must be getting desperate by now for a solution to this problem:

Note: This is just an idea that may or may not work, but is definitely worth a try given the circumstances.


Official CCleaner Website Download: https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download (https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download)

Really hope this works for you mate.....

Hawk.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
Good idea Hawk,

please use the function in CCleaner to make a Registry backup before any 'cleaning'.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 01:08:15 PM
Thanks Hawk, but I tried that all even after make the first post.

I think I'm out of ideas too. I hope PiBoSo take a look here and brings some lights to this.

Thank you all for the tips, guys!
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 01:23:57 PM
Safe mode too?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 01:23:57 PM
Safe mode too?

I've not tried yet. But correct me if I'm wrong but 3D acceleration doesn't work in safe mode, right?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 06, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
Random thought, could be a sound problem ?
If I'm not wrong there's a log (or .txt) file in gpb directory showing some sound init info: can you find it and look inside it ?

(I don't remember the exact name/location and I'm at the office, but shouldn't be hard to spot it).

MaX.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: CapeDoctor on November 06, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
clutching at straws here, but are you running it from a desktop icon or directly from the core.exe itself?
if desktop icon, try from the exe directly.
you've probably done it already from the sound of it, but when you run the exe, it might not be enough to right'click-run as administrator, but best to actually go into the core.exe properties - right'click/properties/compatibility tab - check 'run this program as an administrator'
sorry if you already tried this, then i am at a loss......in which case - HELP! PIBoSo! :D
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 06, 2015, 01:23:57 PM
Safe mode too?

I've not tried yet. But correct me if I'm wrong but 3D acceleration doesn't work in safe mode, right?

Right. But if you can get the exe to run that would be 'a thing'  ;)
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: h106frp on November 06, 2015, 05:12:16 PM
Does GPB need the MSVC redistributable?

Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 06, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
Still not working

Quote from: h106frp on November 06, 2015, 05:12:16 PM
Does GPB need the MSVC redistributable?

That's exactly what I was looking right now. Will try to install some of redistribuitables to see if that works.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: janaucarre on November 07, 2015, 07:52:51 AM
i remember the problem that max say about it on skyrim,  on a fresh windows install.
The sound parameters were really to high for the game to start,  32bits when 16 was needed for example.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: yoshimura on November 07, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
in Task Manager core.exe is active?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: CapeDoctor on November 07, 2015, 08:49:50 AM
tried disconnecting (physically) all your controllers - G25, Saitek and/or whatever else. then install the game, and add controllers back one at a time?
just another straw, lol.....
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 07, 2015, 12:31:48 PM
Quote from: h106frp on November 06, 2015, 05:12:16 PM
Does GPB need the MSVC redistributable?

AFAIK GP Bikes doesn't need any distribuitable package (not really sure...), anyway I've tried installing some importants distributable packages from MS (Visual C++, Frameworks, XNA, etc). Didn't help.

But the interesting thing here is that some old Framework installer from early versions failed to open the *.exe the same way that core.exe. It appears for one second in the Task Manager and closes. (See my yoshimura reply in this post)

Quote from: janaucarre on November 07, 2015, 07:52:51 AM
i remember the problem that max say about it on skyrim,  on a fresh windows install.
The sound parameters were really to high for the game to start,  32bits when 16 was needed for example.

About the audio parameters, I allready tried to switch gpbikes.ini from 32 to 16 and back in the audio section, even before from starting this thread. It's tipicall that some audio devices return lot of problems with other devices, but all seems to be ok. Nothing works.

Quote from: yoshimura on November 07, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
in Task Manager core.exe is active?

That's the main problem. As soon as I execute core.exe or GP Bikes shortcut, it appears and disappears instantly in the Task Manager.

Quote from: CapeDoctor on November 07, 2015, 08:49:50 AM
tried disconnecting (physically) all your controllers - G25, Saitek and/or whatever else. then install the game, and add controllers back one at a time?
just another straw, lol.....

Yep, that's my last option, as my desktop is a total cable madness ;D

---

All my software is running without no problem, incluide all my games (mainly steam). I updated again my Nvidia drivers with the lastest version from two days ago, still the same problem.

I'm running out of ideas  :-\
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 07, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
Surely not the last idea, that will be the factory restore and try again!

If you ever try the Safe Mode you will see that it opens for a while then stops responding after a while. But at least it 'runs'. If yours does this too it still points to a 3rd Party software conflict at normal start up so, using msconfig you can start by turning off all non-ess services at boot and reboot/checking, then if this works, re introduce stuff until you find the conflict.

another idea for you at least.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Hawk on November 07, 2015, 01:08:59 PM
To use Blacky's analogy I'm clutching at desperate straws with this suggestion, but have you done a total system Virus, malware, adware and Rootkit scan? Just thinking you may have something on your system that shouldn't be there that is stopping the core.exe from activating? Might be worth a try, especially if you haven't done a total fresh OS install recently?  Toolbars and crap like that are also renowned for interfering with some software operations. :)

Have a look at your plugin manager to see if something has installed itself that you don't know about?

But this is a very strange problem.... I'd be tempted to totally reformat your HDD and reinstall your Windows 10 OS because something ain't working right in there for sure, even if it is only affecting your GPB core.exe activation. It really does sound like something is blocking Core.exe for some reason, and that can only be some software that has been installed either by yourself or in a way you don't know about(Malware or something) since your last fresh OS install  :-\

But as I say, I'd be tempted to do a total fresh install of your OS. Something is not right and a fresh install is sometimes the only way for sure to sort these problems out.

@Nick: Good advice mate..... Best to try your advice there above first before mine. ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 07, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
Not as drastic as it sounds really, just use the inbuilt system image creator to image out your drive to an external device and keep safe (like we all do as a 'perfect backup' now and again - right?) then factory restore (W10 easy refresh with or without personal stuff) and try again. The best thing you can do for your PC after a while anyway. If still no joy you could always load your image back in.

However still more hassle than trying a few more ideas first  ;)
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 07, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2015, 01:08:59 PM
But as I say, I'd be tempted to do a total fresh install of your OS. Something is not right and a fresh install is sometimes the only way for sure to sort these problems out.
Have to agree with that. There's something definitely wrong on your PC at the moment.

Factory restore is an option. ComboFix could be another one but I don't think it works with Win10.

If you have little stuff installed, just reinstall win10 and straight after try to run gpb.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 07, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
This is getting interesting...

A friend of mine got GP Bikes today and seems to has exactly the same problem. He runs Windows 7 with a Radeon 7870.

Formating C:/ and making a fresh windows 10 install is not in my plans actually... I prefer to wait the necessary time until I find another solution or PiBoSo releases a new version  :-\ (400GB+ of software in C:/).

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: The unknown modder on November 07, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
That's a strange thing, with another OS than yours he has the same problem.
Have you all the right on you Computer? You have something that your friend have to, and probably it comes from a game you have both, or a program.
Another thing before the big reinstall:
Try to mount a virtual machine with vmware and install the game in, only to know if it's possible, try with a win10 or a win7.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Hawk on November 07, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: BerScott on November 07, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
This is getting interesting...

A friend of mine got GP Bikes today and seems to has exactly the same problem. He runs Windows 7 with a Radeon 7870.

Formating C:/ and making a fresh windows 10 install is not in my plans actually... I prefer to wait the necessary time until I find another solution or PiBoSo releases a new version  :-\ (400GB+ of software in C:/).

Fingers crossed.

In that case I would ask yourself what you and your friends PC's or GPB installs have in common? You may find your answer.  ;)

I run Windows 7 Ultimate x64, and I've never had a problem running GPB, So either your copy pasting stuff during your install from beta 6 or something is wrong with your OS Install on your PC's. Remember Piboso did state that Beta 7 requires a total fresh install.  :)

Hope you do find a solution mate.  ;) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: BerScott on November 07, 2015, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: The unknown modder on November 07, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
That's a strange thing, with another OS than yours he has the same problem.
Have you all the right on you Computer? You have something that your friend have to, and probably it comes from a game you have both, or a program.

We have barely the same game software: flight and racing sims, but we've not shared any folders or software.
And yes, I use to get all admin rights, just to avoid these problems.

Quote from: The unknown modder on November 07, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Another thing before the big reinstall:
Try to mount a virtual machine with vmware and install the game in, only to know if it's possible, try with a win10 or a win7.

That's a brilliant, sir. Great idea. I have to try that. Thank you

Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
In that case I would ask yourself what you and your friends PC's or GPB installs have in common? You may find your answer.  ;)

I agree. Let's see if we can find the solution. We are on it.

Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
(...) Remember Piboso did state that Beta 7 requires a total fresh install.  :)

Yes, all fresh installs until now.
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: HornetMaX on November 08, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: BerScott on November 07, 2015, 03:30:06 PM
We have barely the same game software: flight and racing sims, but we've not shared any folders or software.
And yes, I use to get all admin rights, just to avoid these problems.
I doubt it comes from other games but it could be other stuff.

Do you (both) have any head-tracking stuff (e.g. TrackIR) ?
Drivers for special input devices ?
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: Napalm Nick on November 08, 2015, 03:40:50 PM
I don't understand why you are not trying what I suggest.  :(
Title: Re: GP Bikes doesn't start
Post by: h106frp on November 13, 2015, 08:47:51 AM
Is this any help?

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forum/consumerwatch-2/documents-read-only-after-windows-10-install-4537987/?p=2 (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forum/consumerwatch-2/documents-read-only-after-windows-10-install-4537987/?p=2)

It seems that some win10 upgrade documents folders can become locked in read only mode, this may be why the ini files are not creating.