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Where are they? Its lonely out here
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Ok, really just for fun and to generate some discussion. I have only really got to grips with online since the B7 improvements.

Racing is another subject and i do think it deserves a discussion of it own.

Now B7 is reasonably stable with NDS tracks why do we see so many open servers with low occupancy? The common complaint is that GPB seems lonely in practice mode, the GPBOC open servers (thanks Nick  :) ) are just like a virtual trackday and its a chance to pick up some useful tips and see all those lovely bike models out on track.

Thanks

LOL  ;D

I wonder if there is a direct comparison between voters and online riders hehe. 

Seen through my plan already   ;)

I do wonder, the steps for a new user just setting up the correct bikes and tracks to be able to see a server is about as clear as mud  ;)

I have problem with Time zone (I live in big difference time zone country.)

I'd have liked to have been able to have multiple votes, because there are at least two votes I would've cast there.  ;)

Hawk.

Noted Yohji: work, timezone, family etc will keep numbers down at any one time.

If we have a large number claiming to be on line in the poll then this is probably the biggest suspect for low server usage. I would accept that this is probably quite a positive result.

QuoteI do wonder, the steps for a new user just setting up the correct bikes and tracks to be able to see a server is about as clear as mud

Yes, we assume people will join and search and read the forum when they want to know stuff (well maybe not join - always plenty of Guests browsing the topics) , otherwise there is NO way of knowing. But I expect there are not many of those cave dwellers around the biking scene.
Once games no longer came with an instruction manual ( I miss those 300 page flight sim manuals), forum browsing became the lore (back in 1896 I think?).

The guide posted by Max is pretty darn good though. Once you have had your feed on the Stock bikes and Track, human nature makes you seek out more content. I'm not sure just how 'spoon-fed' people should be. If you make it too easy then we will get a load more "3rd Person view only riders" joining (lol that's a joke by the way, and a bloody good one). ;)

Quote from: Hawk on November 25, 2015, 12:48:42 PM
I'd have liked to have been able to have multiple votes, because there are at least two votes I would've cast there.  ;)

Hawk.

Comments are welcomed to assist in formulating a conclusion  ;)

@Nick
I think the guide should be linked from the download site, took me a while to find it - you forget that we only read (or even look in the box) for the instructions after we have failed at the first attempt  :)

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Errm.. Im at work mate hahaha

I do venture online a bit but sometimes I just pick a track and ride around on me tod in testing lol. I like to time attack!

Would be nice to have a list of tracks in rotation on a server too.. Like peter has done in the past.

Also this sim depends on the forum alot!! If people dont visit the forum, online is impossible.

Edit: sorry I walked away before I clicked the post button.

Quote from: h106frp on November 25, 2015, 12:55:43 PM

@Nick
I think the guide should be linked from the download site, took me a while to find it - you forget that we only read (or even look in the box) for the instructions after we have failed at the first attempt  :)

I think its a good idea - up to PiBoSo to include a link there. At least it is in the "Support" section which is natural when you are looking for "Help"

no server with motogp bikes xD so i go offline mode ^^

There is a reason missing:
Developing and updating mods  ;)

Reason missing, uninstalled...

What about work/school. 7-5.30 im out at work :P

Quote from: C21 on November 25, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
There is a reason missing:
Developing and updating mods  ;)

Updated  :)

@matty @bob, already considered in Yohji's post - this excuse is acceptable  :)

Quote from: JamoZ on November 25, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Reason missing, uninstalled...

Updated  ;)

At that rate we're going to have more reply options than replies :)

Quote from: HornetMaX on November 25, 2015, 02:13:02 PM
At that rate we're going to have more reply options than replies :)

Democracy at its finest...

QuoteCannot find a suitable server for my personal tastes

Don't forget if there is something you want feel free to ask me here (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2411.0)

Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 25, 2015, 12:53:00 PM

QuoteI do wonder, the steps for a new user just setting up the correct bikes and tracks to be able to see a server is about as clear as mud

Yes, we assume people will join and search and read the forum when they want to know stuff (well maybe not join - always plenty of Guests browsing the topics) , otherwise there is NO way of knowing. But I expect there are not many of those cave dwellers around the biking scene.
Once games no longer came with an instruction manual ( I miss those 300 page flight sim manuals), forum browsing became the lore (back in 1896 I think?).

The guide posted by Max is pretty darn good though. Once you have had your feed on the Stock bikes and Track, human nature makes you seek out more content. I'm not sure just how 'spoon-fed' people should be. If you make it too easy then we will get a load more "3rd Person view only riders" joining (lol that's a joke by the way, and a bloody good one). ;)

Hahaha good post!  ;D

And yeah MaX's guide sums me up perfectly! ''lost biker'' hehe. After years of playing bike games on the consoles.. I found GPB!! So I went and bought myself a pc so I could play it... To start with the whole pc thing I found really hard (still do) but picking things up as I go..

So that's another reason for the poll! ''thick tw@t doesnt know what he's doing''  ::) :D

Lol - you have power plug sockets in that cave?  :D

Quote from: Napalm Nick on November 25, 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Lol - you have power plug sockets in that cave?  :D

Still dragging me nuckles nick hahaha

The teachers won't let me play gpbikes during lesson :-(

No point trying to race with a bike that is unrealistic in handling as the front end is totally wrong, clutch is nowhere near realistic and wont function like a real clutch, continual core crashes, but otherwise the mods look pretty and the modders have done fantastic work with the bikes and tracks.

Sorry but those are the hard facts. I have ridden for 37 years, worked for Honda and Suzuki to name a few and I use real motorcycle controls that operate 100% as real bike controls do. I cant dump the clutch like on a real bike and get anywhere near the real reaction from the bike, how can you say something is and feels real if your using a gamepad? Ive ridden a bike with a bent frame where the front wheel was 2 inches out of line with the rear wheel and never got a tank slapper accelerating. I used to transport heavy plates for BOE and even with over 300lb. over my rear wheel my front end did not act anywhere as bad as in beta7!!!

I dont enjoy GPBikes anymore, it has gotten better in many ways and the modders make it worth the time to try and ride, BUT the bikes physics destroy the enjoyment. Now the lean angle makes it impossible to really ride as we used to be able and the front end issue has not been addressed in over a year!!! Seriously, is it more important to look for what music video to post than fix the front end? I dont have hours upon hours to spend in GPB just to try and get a half decent but still unrealistic handling bike!!! Sorry but guess I will have to wait another year or so for the front end to work right. See you online then.

To the modders, thank you so much for the brilliant bikes and tracks and plugins naturally.

DD

Hi DD.

Remember that GPB is still a beta development......

From what we see Piboso has been working on hopefully it will sort out a lot of the handling problems for beta 8.

I would also recommend you co-ordinating with a bike physics modder to tune the clutch appropriately for a real clutch lever to see if you can get that real feel; the clutch is tuneable through the mod-settings for the bike physics.   ;)

Beta 8.... We won't have to wait a year DD; beta 8 is due out soon.   ;D

Hawk.

Hope so H it is frustrating lol.

I have not had time to get into modding the bike and fuckin it up lol. I am working round the clock to get systems finished for christmas and also one for InsideSimRacing show so makes it hard to just do GPB as have to test in so many games.

Thanx for the heads up bro

DD

Just an aside, do the test to fail with 1 liter of gasoline in gear ratio  6,5,4 ... coasting, the engine brake No not been found, big problem :o
Finally, the engine brake does not exist, in the mechanical sense.

i will love to ride online but....im trading in my Anaconda and i cant stop lol  ;)

Quote from: doubledragoncc on November 30, 2015, 11:33:47 PM
No point trying to race with a bike that is unrealistic in handling as the front end is totally wrong, clutch is nowhere near realistic and wont function like a real clutch, continual core crashes, but otherwise the mods look pretty and the modders have done fantastic work with the bikes and tracks.

Sorry but those are the hard facts. I have ridden for 37 years, worked for Honda and Suzuki to name a few and I use real motorcycle controls that operate 100% as real bike controls do. I cant dump the clutch like on a real bike and get anywhere near the real reaction from the bike, how can you say something is and feels real if your using a gamepad? Ive ridden a bike with a bent frame where the front wheel was 2 inches out of line with the rear wheel and never got a tank slapper accelerating. I used to transport heavy plates for BOE and even with over 300lb. over my rear wheel my front end did not act anywhere as bad as in beta7!!!

I dont enjoy GPBikes anymore, it has gotten better in many ways and the modders make it worth the time to try and ride, BUT the bikes physics destroy the enjoyment. Now the lean angle makes it impossible to really ride as we used to be able and the front end issue has not been addressed in over a year!!! Seriously, is it more important to look for what music video to post than fix the front end? I dont have hours upon hours to spend in GPB just to try and get a half decent but still unrealistic handling bike!!! Sorry but guess I will have to wait another year or so for the front end to work right. See you online then.

To the modders, thank you so much for the brilliant bikes and tracks and plugins naturally.

DD

Hello DD,
Nice to see you around the forum, given that you are disappointed with GPB but still developing your controllers - What is your currently recommended bike sim? Might be something i can add to my Christmas list for Santa  :)

Maybe i should have added a category for "Waiting on developments"  ;)

Its no good looking at the blue bar on the poll results - depends what PC and size you have your window as to which question they line up with LOL.

Seems you have to count the questions and then count down the % line to find out which is what. Very statistical indeed! ::) ;)

Note to self - Keep questions one line in length hehe

Quote from: Napalm Nick on December 01, 2015, 12:04:19 PM
Its no good looking at the blue bar on the poll results - depends what PC and size you have your window as to which question they line up with LOL.

Seems you have to count the questions and then count down the % line to find out which is what. Very statistical indeed! ::) ;)

Note to self - Keep questions one line in length hehe

They line-up fine on my screen(1080p - Widescreen).  ;D

Hawk.

i am not "really" online these days because there is no actual bike out there to ride with.
no wss/ssp bikes, no stock's just two strokes and playmobilebikes.

bring beta7c please. so that the modders can start adjusting the bikemods and we all can play gpb but at this point it all has just stopped.

Quote from: Napalm Nick on December 01, 2015, 12:04:19 PM
Its no good looking at the blue bar on the poll results - depends what PC and size you have your window as to which question they line up with LOL.

Seems you have to count the questions and then count down the % line to find out which is what. Very statistical indeed! ::) ;)

Note to self - Keep questions one line in length hehe

Works OK on mine with firefox - you must have a strange setup - got enhanced fonts/accessibility options switched on ?  :D   ;)

Surprised by how many are having problems with just getting connected. I think its a very pretty results graph  :)

Actually I'm using Internet Explorer like the last of the die-hards. Its surprising I can even see things on the internet eh lol.

Attached you see my view. But wait - what if I see things on the internet the correct way and you lot don't?  ???

Edited: sounded rude lol

Weird - Time to upgrade to the newer IE (or a decent browser)  ;)

Yeh I have FFox and Chrome and it looks fine in them. But Bill Gates is my Father and he gets 'tetchy' and I don't want any more lightsabre treatment.

Not sure even BG uses IE ....

To be honest, recent IE is not as bad as it was ... that's why they decided to screw it up again with Edge :)

Quote from: h106frp on December 01, 2015, 11:15:43 AM

Quote from: doubledragoncc on November 30, 2015, 11:33:47 PM
No point trying to race with a bike that is unrealistic in handling as the front end is totally wrong, clutch is nowhere near realistic and wont function like a real clutch, continual core crashes, but otherwise the mods look pretty and the modders have done fantastic work with the bikes and tracks.

Sorry but those are the hard facts. I have ridden for 37 years, worked for Honda and Suzuki to name a few and I use real motorcycle controls that operate 100% as real bike controls do. I cant dump the clutch like on a real bike and get anywhere near the real reaction from the bike, how can you say something is and feels real if your using a gamepad? Ive ridden a bike with a bent frame where the front wheel was 2 inches out of line with the rear wheel and never got a tank slapper accelerating. I used to transport heavy plates for BOE and even with over 300lb. over my rear wheel my front end did not act anywhere as bad as in beta7!!!

I dont enjoy GPBikes anymore, it has gotten better in many ways and the modders make it worth the time to try and ride, BUT the bikes physics destroy the enjoyment. Now the lean angle makes it impossible to really ride as we used to be able and the front end issue has not been addressed in over a year!!! Seriously, is it more important to look for what music video to post than fix the front end? I dont have hours upon hours to spend in GPB just to try and get a half decent but still unrealistic handling bike!!! Sorry but guess I will have to wait another year or so for the front end to work right. See you online then.

To the modders, thank you so much for the brilliant bikes and tracks and plugins naturally.

DD

Hello DD,
Nice to see you around the forum, given that you are disappointed with GPB but still developing your controllers - What is your currently recommended bike sim? Might be something i can add to my Christmas list for Santa  :)

Maybe i should have added a category for "Waiting on developments"  ;)

Hi h106, well it is hard to say. Since I fixed the terrible controller input in Milestone games CDX and I and all my customers around the world are enjoying far more games. AI is a big issue in the RIDE but with my new input settings and gearing it is a lot of fun, still no SIM but it allows riding with no core.exe crashes, online and alone, its become fun lol. Your general MotoGP 13, 14 and 15 are far better now too but still not Sims. CDX and I are playing around with Tourist Trophy (PS2 game on PC) and I am starting to get the control input sorted but will take time. But Nurbergring with an old XJR1300 race bike or the old GS1000 Yoshi are fun lol.

So what gives me most fun right now...........you will all think I am nuts, but with my controller and an open world environment, with a few race tracks, multiplayer and NO crashes the biggest blast is The Crew Wild Run!!! Once you tune the input right you have ALL bike controls including clutch and the bikes are fast. I know it is nowhere near a SIM but for riding fun that has great graphics, is fast without having to have high FPS, no core.exe, can race with friends online, has all weather and time changes, great riding environment, and it is just plain FUN.

For a pure racing game it is RIDE, which at first I hated with a passion, but I fixed the shitty steering and input deadzones and now its real fun. NO core.exe, good bikes and graphics, but FPS are an issue but livable with. Then I would say MotoGP13 or 15, not played 14 in months and need to test this week again. With no deadzone they are good to ride in AI is not too bad like in RIDE.

In reality GPBikes is still the only SIM there is for road bikes, but Piboso needs to wake up and realize that people are not going to want to buy a broken bike...........POINT It need fixing NOW, sod the snick snack and make it ridable before all else. Even online should come AFTER the bikes hadling as without proper control of the bike you have NOTHING!!!! NO sim just a program wasting space on a hard drive as it cant be used.

This is a tragedy!!!!........................ I pray he stops wasting time posting stupid music videos and works on the bikes and core problems first. Sorry Piboso but the excuse that it is a beta ran out over a year ago. At least in Alpha7 you could ride and had great physics, it felt more real than anything in the last releases, why fix something that was not broken just needed tweaking!!! I pray you sort it out as it is still the one and only SIM there is.

Oh and as a last note, at least in GTAV I can take my frustration out a shoot some cage driving fuckers!!!

DD

Is MGP15 better than SBK generations? I was hoping for a good 'game' with SBK gen but it was actually very dull.

Is RIDE worth £20 on EB?

Looking on EB I saw this which i was trying to remember the other day as possibly the worst (that actually ran) bike sim -Superbike riding challenge

Criminal waste of money - questionable developer (non existent product support or patches for poor software)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQxWDc1OQ==/z/gK0AAOSwPcVVpXUV/$_57.JPG)

Occasionally i have to remind myself that GPB has been decent value and fun so far  :)

I would say RIDE is worth the money but only as I am using my controls and use 360ce to add an antideadzone for steering which really changes the game. I cant say about it for using a controller but in general YES it is worth it if you want a fair amount of bikes,, a bit of tuning and visuals and your system can run half decent FPS with it. I have not tried 360ce with a game pad but it might help too. The biggest problem I find in RIDE is the stupid gay AI who shove it up my ass all the time!!!

SBK is okay but not as good as MotoGP in many ways. I have only really used SBKX which is okay.

Have you tried Tourist Trophy on PC yet? It is OLD but fun once you setup the controls right.

grT is the one to talk to about many games as she really is into it and rides in many a LOT.

I will look at some more and see what I can do with them.

DD

Quote from: Napalm Nick on December 01, 2015, 01:00:04 PM

Actually I'm using Internet Explorer like the last of the die-hards. Its surprising I can even see things on the internet eh lol.

Attached you see my view. But wait - what if I see things on the internet the correct way and you lot don't?  ???

Edited: sounded rude lol

I'm like you: A die hard IE user. Only use Firefox and Chrome whenever I need to.....

But I have the latest IE installed with all updates from Microsoft and mine is working fine. Have you by any chance increased your IE browser text size or zoom % or style? My zoom is on 100%, my text size is medium, and my style is default.

Hawk.

I stopped playing when the beta 6 released, couldnt play well, got bored...
I'm more or less back now, trying to find few guys to play with, but there is a lack of content now we're in beta 7, i miss the ssp machine, moto2 bikeset is cool, but the sound is really unrealistic and annoys me  :-[

Thought you had cracked it there Hawk I did! Because I use 125% zoom but when I go back to 100 it is even worse as shown.   :P

Text size is medium and style is default.

never mind I can live with it. Besides important stuff is OK ( :P)

GPB has always the same problems, people are tired of this

Quote from: Napalm Nick on December 01, 2015, 03:55:12 PM
Thought you had cracked it there Hawk I did! Because I use 125% zoom but when I go back to 100 it is even worse as shown.   :P

Text size is medium and style is default.

never mind I can live with it. Besides important stuff is OK ( :P)

Hmmm.... Very strange. Are you using a high-res screen setting? I'm using 1080p. Give that a try if your using a higher resolution, if only to test to see if it comes good at 1080p for you.

It could just be a limitation of IE for very high and wide screen res monitors? That's all I can think of for now.  ;)

Hawk.

Maybe!       1900x1280 Res here, dropped it to 1080 but maybe just a little better not much.

Never mind I will use Chrome for looking at polls and downloading from Mega etc etc. I might even use it (or FartFox) as my 'go to browser' if I ever feel like 'fitting in'. LOL  ;)

Quote from: Hawk on December 01, 2015, 03:32:48 PM
I'm like you: A die hard IE user.

(http://imguol.com/2013/03/12/os-principais-navegadores-do-mercado-como-google-chrome-firefox-e-internet-explorer-estao-sempre-disputando-a-preferencia-dos-internautas-essa-briga-rendeu-muitas-brincadeiras-na-rede-e-nelas-o-1363107269822_956x500.jpg)

hahahahahahahahaha  :D

Hahaha!  ;D

Hey Max! Who gave you my picture! ;D

You know what they say about "Teaching Old Dogs New Tricks".  ;) ;D

Hawk.

Quote from: fabio93bg on December 01, 2015, 06:31:08 PM
GPB has always the same problems, people are tired of this

+1

Where are we? To play online every evening!  :o

My bike is broken, cant ride it lol

DD