Hi Guys.
So with the problem that the 990 seems to have a limited number of skins depending on each persons computer system, we need a way to ensure we all have the right paint files when racing online to fully enjoy that personal feeling during online racing.
I think if we all do a bit more work and actually ensure we the user organizes and ensures we have the paints we need. Many paints are no longer used and take up space in a bikes paint folder. When as with the 990 this causes core crashes, we need to organize our own folders depending on our own limits in GPB.
THUS..............I think it would be an idea to start making it that EACH PERSON has a paint folder where they have in the right folders(if the paint name does not show what it is for) their personal paints. They simply leave the download link on a certain page for all to download as they need them. At the same time the fantastic matty can add them to the paint database.
By using personal folders as apposed to just a bike or helmet class, it will allow us all to have the correct paints we need and get rid of the ones that are out of date and/or are not used. This will ensure no stock paints in online racing and reduce core crashes with the 990.
Even if there is an amount over that of which you can have in your bikes paint folder, when you know who is in an online race, you only need to have their paints and personal paint folders will make this easier to do.
Please let me know what you think so we can organize to do this with guidelines to make it easier for all to do.
DD
Appreciate you trying to come up with a procedure to get competitors to install all event rider/bike/helmet skins...... I personally only like to install event skin packs - Like the GPBOC used to have a Club skin pack. It's only one download and these skin paks can be created from Matty's paints database for the event participants; all it takes is for someone to put the skin pac together. :)
But no I don't install all bike paints, especially as some skin creators go way over the top and produce skins that are 10 - 15 MB in size which is a total nonsense as far as I'm concerned and not needed at all.
But skin paks are the way to go in my opinion otherwise we've got to download from separate links to get all the event rider skins, and I just don't think riders will bother to do that.
Hawk.
Yeah well if people cant be bothered to put a little effort into making GPB what it can be they should at least refrain from bitchin when their system cores lol.
I do know what you mean bro. I was just trying to give some positive input to help.
Well I am still watching Fastest, thanks for the link, oh bugger theres a link to the untouchables and I only have U2 lol. I NEED to practice for the race. At least I fixed my upshift problem woohoo no more double upshifts.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 01:55:08 PM
Yeah well if people cant be bothered to put a little effort into making GPB what it can be they should at least refrain from bitchin when their system cores lol.
I do know what you mean bro. I was just trying to give some positive input to help.
Well I am still watching Fastest, thanks for the link, oh bugger theres a link to the untouchables and I only have U2 lol. I NEED to practice for the race. At least I fixed my upshift problem woohoo no more double upshifts.
DD
Sorry about the negativity in my last post, but just telling it how it is my friend. ;D
If you could put an event skin pak together for us from the list of riders participating then I'd be happy to download and install it. I've already got some of the rider skins installed already. ;D
Hawk.
Yeah that would be great but not ALL the skins riders are using has their name on it so you dont know which it is without going through ALL the skins one by one!!! AND then you still dont know if its actual name of the file is the same?
Only way to make a skin pack that works is that everyone has to say, "These are my Paints I use NOW" and give a link to downlload them so I can do that.
Thats the problem. If everyone would post their actual paints they use now on this thread I could compile an organized folder for all to download from my dropbox or matty's database
DD
DD
I'll start it off:
Rider: Hawk
Skin: HGP Hawk_UK 7 Leathers
Bike: Varase 500cc
Skin: Hawk_Racing_UK_500cc
Helmet: Shark Race-R Pro
Skin: Hawk_UK Helmet #7
I actually meant a link to download them too. It will mean they are all current and stop any mistakes by me lol. Also I may not have the paints for that bike and have to find them and download them and might get something wrong.
DD
BUT your info is better than nothing so thanks
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 02:11:29 PM
Only way to make a skin pack that works is that everyone has to say, "These are my Paints I use NOW" and give a link to downlload them so I can do that.
DD
And there you have the problem me old mate.
Asked many, many times, even threatened exclusion from events and people just will not do it for a variety of reasons. But we will get the skin pack idea running again, at least most people understand it. Not for tonight though I am hoping this event gets a smooth launch after recent shenanegins.
As for your per-person paint pack I think it is a great idea but I pretty much guarantee most casual players wont take the time to understand it, unfortunately. :(
The good news is our very own Matty has been compiling the skinpacks so hopefully we can meet his monetary demands again this year. :D
Well it helped me find I dont have Hawks bike or helmet skin already!!!
This is more to do with the 990 issue to try and minimize core crashes by having unwanted skins taking space in the folder.
But it will help organize things a bit maybe
DD
i dont have time or will to mess with paints. i download paints and but it on proper folders thats it. if its not enough there is something that piboso have to do. i dont care if everybody is driving same paint but of course its better if everybody has own paint.by the way why my varese paint is not on the paint pack...?i uploaded it couple months ago. one upload should be enough.
matty has to put your paint on the database. You dont upload it directly yourself.
Make a link for him to download it so he can do this
DD
There you go - one of the 'variety of reasons' I talked about.
Funny how there is also a complaint that someone else hasn't taken the time to organise (mess with) all the paints for us, explain what to do, take another one randomly uploaded somewhere and add it to a database though. Isn't it? Humans never cease to amaze me with how they view the world.
Maybe he couldn't be arsed either? .
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 02:29:50 PM
I actually meant a link to download them too. It will mean they are all current and stop any mistakes by me lol. Also I may not have the paints for that bike and have to find them and download them and might get something wrong.
DD
BUT your info is better than nothing so thanks
You have to make it easy for riders, that's just the way it is from my experience in trying to get competitors to install all particular event competitor skins.... You have to make it easy for them or most just won't do it. I know because I used to compile event skin paks for races. It's more work than people realise. :)
So unfortunately that means that if we want to do this for this event then you'll have to do most of the work to compile all the skins and that means referencing and compiling the skin pak yourself from the skin info given by riders and then posting the download link for the event skin pak. :)
Again, sorry for the bluntness DD, but that's just the way it works my old mate. ;) 8)
Hawk.
No problem Hawk, you forgot your 990 and any other skin names but at least I will be able to know its you now lol.
DD
I will do my best to compile what I can okay with or without help lol
I need to actually see online who uses what, watch a replay, match the paint in GPB and create a folder with the right set of paints, easy peasy lol
Quote from: Napalm Nick on March 02, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
There you go - one of the 'variety of reasons' I talked about.
Funny how there is also a complaint that someone else hasn't taken the time to organise (mess with) all the paints for us, explain what to do, take another one randomly uploaded somewhere and add it to a database though. Isn't it? Humans never cease to amaze me with how they view the world.
Maybe he couldn't be arsed either? .
Lol... +1 Nick! Hehe ;D
You sure have to be selfless with a cause to organise events as I'm sure you know. Hehe ;D 8)
Well I look at the fact that we want to have as much feeling as possible from GPB but will accept a full grid of bikes all with the same paint is shite bro, it destroys the feeling of the competition.
Like with Nicks smoke mod, all little bits that make GPB better are worth the work and I am up for it if I can. I cant do 3D models or bikes and tracks, make apps or woteva, but maybe I can make it better visually by making it easier for all bike to look different and improve the feel of GPB in doing so.
DD
PS Nick wheres your info bro lol
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
No problem Hawk, you forgot your 990 and any other skin names but at least I will be able to know its you now lol.
DD
I will do my best to compile what I can okay with or without help lol
I need to actually see online who uses what, watch a replay, match the paint in GPB and create a folder with the right set of paints, easy peasy lol
OH! Are you talking about wanting people to download and install all currently used skins and not just the individual event skin paks? That's too much work to keep up to date DD. If I was you I'd just compile tonights A1 Ring event skin pak, don't bother with all skins for all different category bikes, etc, etc.... Just the skins that are going to be used for the A1 Ring Event tonight will be great. ;D 8)
Hawk.
Quote from: Hawk on March 02, 2016, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
No problem Hawk, you forgot your 990 and any other skin names but at least I will be able to know its you now lol.
DD
I will do my best to compile what I can okay with or without help lol
I need to actually see online who uses what, watch a replay, match the paint in GPB and create a folder with the right set of paints, easy peasy lol
OH! Are you talking about wanting people to download and install all currently used skins and not just the individual event skin paks? That's too much work to keep up to date DD. If I was you I'd just compile tonights A1 Ring event skin pak, don't bother with all skins for all different category bikes, etc, etc.... Just the skins that are going to be used for the A1 Ring Event tonight will be great. ;D 8)
Hawk.
When the events become regular again. I dont mind making the event packs again. Its not that hard so long as people submit their skins before the event (ive had skins sent to me when were all qualifying and expected to have them put in. Its just not going to happen.) :P
I would like to organise and "thin" the amount of skins. But i dont want to be risponsable when people complain when their favourite skins arnt there.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
Well I look at the fact that we want to have as much feeling as possible from GPB but will accept a full grid of bikes all with the same paint is shite bro, it destroys the feeling of the competition.
Like with Nicks smoke mod, all little bits that make GPB better are worth the work and I am up for it if I can. I cant do 3D models or bikes and tracks, make apps or woteva, but maybe I can make it better visually by making it easier for all bike to look different and improve the feel of GPB in doing so.
DD
PS Nick wheres your info bro lol
Totally agree with you there DD, +1 mate! ;D
But remember that riders swap and change skins regular for events, and a lot of people don't like storing all skins on their system but only the skins needed for events, so don't try and do too much and create a lot of work for yourself in keeping an all-in-one skin pak updated. Just do individual event skin paks. :)
Hawk.
I dont have time to do it at the drop of a hat dude I meant for the future. I mean to start making a new pack for each class bit by bit not in one frickin day dude. I will never have time to do it quickly.
I was also meaning a new form on the database that allows individual riders sets.
I will record the race, watch the reply and then know exactly which paints are being use now. Too many paints do not have names that are anything to do with the bike, helmet or suit so going by Hawks name if he uses a helmet with rossi's name dont frickin help, I have to do it visually if not told the exact name and if my 990 paint folder is full I need to know what I can remove to make space for one I need so GPB dont crash!!!
Sorry but I have much to do bro and can only use my spare time which is little.
DD
Quote from: Hawk on March 02, 2016, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
Well I look at the fact that we want to have as much feeling as possible from GPB but will accept a full grid of bikes all with the same paint is shite bro, it destroys the feeling of the competition.
Like with Nicks smoke mod, all little bits that make GPB better are worth the work and I am up for it if I can. I cant do 3D models or bikes and tracks, make apps or woteva, but maybe I can make it better visually by making it easier for all bike to look different and improve the feel of GPB in doing so.
DD
PS Nick wheres your info bro lol
Totally agree with you there DD, +1 mate! ;D
But remember that riders swap and change skins regular for events, and a lot of people don't like storing all skins on their system but only the skins needed for events, so don't try and do too much and create a lot of work for yourself in keeping an all-in-one skin pak updated. Just do individual event skin paks. :)
Hawk.
Exactly Hawk. Thats why if you only wanted to get the paints for one person for a race as you dont like storing them on your system, now you would have to look for 3 paints, where my system would let you just look for that one rider and get all his paints for the day you want them, race, delete them until you want them again..........Just ONE download not 3 and all the right ones
DD
I also wonder if by having less bike paints in the bikes paint folder at any given time it would reduce chance of core crashes as there is a problem somewhere, the 990 we know but maybe we have not reached the limit with the varese of other bikes and then one day it happens.
I am just trying to help, it wont be overnight but in the end it would be practical. Anyways I will do it for myself and see how it is.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:36:43 PM
I dont have time to do it at the drop of a hat dude I meant for the future. I mean to start making a new pack for each class bit by bit not in one frickin day dude. I will never have time to do it quickly.
I was also meaning a new form on the database that allows individual riders sets.
I will record the race, watch the reply and then know exactly which paints are being use now. Too many paints do not have names that are anything to do with the bike, helmet or suit so going by Hawks name if he uses a helmet with rossi's name dont frickin help, I have to do it visually if not told the exact name and if my 990 paint folder is full I need to know what I can remove to make space for one I need so GPB dont crash!!!
Sorry but I have much to do bro and can only use my spare time which is little.
DD
No worries DD..... But for sure I totally agree with you that if all riders had each others event skins then that greatly increases the immersion and atmosphere of races. Absolutely! ;D 8)
Hawk.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Hawk on March 02, 2016, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
Well I look at the fact that we want to have as much feeling as possible from GPB but will accept a full grid of bikes all with the same paint is shite bro, it destroys the feeling of the competition.
Like with Nicks smoke mod, all little bits that make GPB better are worth the work and I am up for it if I can. I cant do 3D models or bikes and tracks, make apps or woteva, but maybe I can make it better visually by making it easier for all bike to look different and improve the feel of GPB in doing so.
DD
PS Nick wheres your info bro lol
Totally agree with you there DD, +1 mate! ;D
But remember that riders swap and change skins regular for events, and a lot of people don't like storing all skins on their system but only the skins needed for events, so don't try and do too much and create a lot of work for yourself in keeping an all-in-one skin pak updated. Just do individual event skin paks. :)
Hawk.
Exactly Hawk. Thats why if you only wanted to get the paints for one person for a race as you dont like storing them on your system, now you would have to look for 3 paints, where my system would let you just look for that one rider and get all his paints for the day you want them, race, delete them until you want them again..........Just ONE download not 3 and all the right ones
DD
I certainly see your point there DD. It would certainly make looking up paints for individual riders a lot easier. ;)
Hawk.
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
DD
PS Nick wheres your info bro lol
In my rant I wasn't actually referring to myself, I meant Matty. All
his info is strangely listed under "Paints" In the Mods section - how crazy is that!? ::)
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?board=11.0.
lol ;)
Crazy idea!
Well your the first on my list, whats your 990, 125, Ducati GP15 or other paints buddy?
DD
I'll make a database on my Dropbox and keep it as up to date as possible just for me but if it works your all welcome to it lol
It will take some time to get right but I know it will work
I don't have any of those bike paints lol.
Leathers and Lid I will have to look up, unfortunately I am not home until sometime before the race so put me at the bottom of your list pls ;)
LOL Nick that was meant for Hawk.
I am NOT doing it for tonight's race, I dont have time it is for the future to get a structured database to help stop core crashes with over filled paint folders (990) and to make updates stay fresh as it will reduce the chance of having unused and outdated paints for each rider.
DD
Quote from: doubledragoncc on March 02, 2016, 03:55:10 PM
Well your the first on my list, whats your 990, 125, Ducati GP15 or other paints buddy?
DD
I'll make a database on my Dropbox and keep it as up to date as possible just for me but if it works your all welcome to it lol
It will take some time to get right but I know it will work
I'll look that info up and post here later DD, though I'm sure I haven't got a skin for the Ducati GP15.
Should be practicing for tonights race really, but busy here right now trying to get the UV mapping finished on a track MOD conversion before race start. It's all GO! Lol ;D
Hawk.