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Title: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race" | COMPLETE | WINNER - LOOPATELI
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 15, 2016, 08:18:09 AM
Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race

Bernat Martinez was a famous 80cc rider in Spain...He lost his life on the 19th.July 2015  during the  Superbike World Championship. He had the most wins on an 80cc bike in Spain.


This race is in memory of him.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGLkdWKWcAAj-Z8.jpg)

10 January 1980 – 19 July 2015



Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race at Mantorp Park

(http://www.dotzmag.com/78345_EN.jpeg?exp=24572243900773)

Read the server Rules noted at the bottom


Race Event

Sunday 19 June 2016 20:00 UK GMT (21:00 CET)

(http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/red_1466362800.png) (http://www.pending.me.uk)

Max. 16 players

Class: GP80
Bike(s):

GP80_Derbi_GPR_S_80
           Download link Bike: http://www.mediafire.com/download/qm5t3lrwavftpc0/GP80_Derbi_GPR_S_80.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download/qm5t3lrwavftpc0/GP80_Derbi_GPR_S_80.rar)

Track:
Mantorp Park V1.0_NDS

           Download link Track(s): https://mega.nz/#F!eNVSADpZ!a6u3dBMlFT8zw5x7K68eVg!eEtzWDLS (https://mega.nz/#F!eNVSADpZ!a6u3dBMlFT8zw5x7K68eVg!eEtzWDLS)

Race Setup
Conditions Clear
Air temperature 25
Limited Tire sets
Practice 25 minutes
Qualifying 25 minutes
Warmup 5 minutes
Race .. 20 laps

Wednesday 10:00 - 24.00 UK GMT - Track open for Practice session
Thursday     10:00 - 24.00 UK GMT - Track open for Practice session
Friday          10:00 - 24.00 UK GMT - Track open for Practice session
Saturday     10:00 - 24.00 UK GMT - Track open for Practice session
Sunday       10:00 - 19.30 UK GMT - Track open for Practice session
Sunday       19:30 UK GMT - SERVER RESET - New Tyres for everyone. (Get a server Reset as close to the race as possible #nocores)

Sunday      20.00 UK GMT - Track open for 25 Minute Qualifying Session - please BE ON THE SERVER BEFORE SESSION STARTS
Sunday      20:25 UK GMT - Track open for 5 minute Warm-up Session
Sunday      20:30 UK GMT - RACE START

Usual rules - 3 Restarts Maximum - Please NO CHAT in Qualifying and Race.

Please sign up (name and number) if you would like to take part.  :) Also add any links for your skins.

Help

How to start?
Remember to set Help to ON, in order to see the red arrow or flags.
You can find this option under Settings -> Misc -> Track

PLEASE try and make sure we dont have 10 paints the same!!! There are more than enough to chose from. This makes it better fun for all online and for recordings and live streaming. So if you can put all 3 paint names up for all to see, That is Bike, Helmet and Leathers. If we start doing this it will make it soooooooo much more fun in the end and help learn who you need to do a Rossi on!!!

NAME OF PAINT
- This is the IN-GAME name not the pnt file name!!!

HELMETS!!! You need to name TYPE and NAME of paint for Helmets please.

I know its a bit more typing guys but it really helps us who try to make it better for YOU.

THANKS DD

Riders                           Bike Paint                        Helmet Type/Paint                      Leathers Paint
   
    #63 IASystems    IAS Racing DD                        AGV IAS Racing DD                         IAS Racing DD
    #58 Blackheart    Valentino Rossi 1997             AGV VRossi 2016                            Blackheart #58
    #17 Jorge            DERBI_GP80_17_JORGE        DEF RedBull John Hopkins Rep       Arresi Jorge
    #69Manu            DERBI_GP80_RED                  Shoeï Marc Marquez 2015             Marc Marquez 2015
    #68Nick              Nicked_It_Napalm                  Shoeï Police_68                            Nicked_It_Napalm
    #7Hawk              HGP Hawk_UK Rookies Cup   DEF   Hawk_UK Helmet #7               HGP Hawk #7
    #93 Demitsuri                      DEF                                     DEF                                            DEF
    #28 Thecrivi28    DERBI_GP80_YELLOW                                                                      thecrivi28
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Server Rules

not following the server rules will result in a server kick, and a blacklist entry for all future events

    Server Restarts
    Will be restricted too 3 times and only if server crashes or if there are more then 3 simultaneous core.exe errors

    Race time
    Be on time, be in the server before the Qualifying starts, if you are not on time you  will be removed from the race. After we hang, draw and quater you!!! And feed you soft bits to the NSR500 Angry Birds!!!

    NO Chat during Qualifying and the Race. If you do chat you  will be removed from the race. After we hang, draw and quater you!!! And feed you soft bits to the NSR500 Angry Birds!!! ...You can find this option under Settings -> Misc -> Track.

    NO Track Cutting during the whole event.
    This means for example, not going on to the track straight out of the pits, use the PIT OUT (and PIT IN) area.

    NO Voting during the Race, other then the admin.

    NO "Iannone Moves" No ramming up the bottom or in the side due to being a dick!!! This type of move will result in castration with a very blunt knife!!!

    NO "Rossi Moves" No side swipping of other riders to get by them, UNLESS they have made an "Iannone Move" on you before or because they are riding with your personal custom paint you are using!!!


Basic Info :  (server will be restarted 1 Hour before race start (19:30 UK 20:30 CET)    Racing class is GP80, This means that we are using ONLY the GP80_Derbi_GPR_S_80

Its my first race hosting so be kind and forgive my sorry old ass for any mistakes. I will do my best.

"Have a nice day y'all"
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Blackheart on June 15, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
#58 Blackheart

Bike Paint: Valentino Rossi 1997
Helmet: AGV VRossi 2016 (this is not in the database here the link (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3482.0))
Leather: Blackheart #58
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 15, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
Thanks Blacky, hope others follow your example of posting paints.

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 15, 2016, 01:29:12 PM
#17 Jorge

Bike Paint: DERBI_GP80_17_JORGE
Helmet: Default RedBull Jhon Hopkins Replica
Leather: Jorge.pnt
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 15, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
Jorge for helmets you need to put TYPE of helmet or I must go through them all bro!!!

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Manu on June 16, 2016, 12:46:35 PM
Manu #69

Bike Paint: DERBI_GP80_RED
Helmet: Marc Marquez 2015
Leather: Marc Marquez 2015
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 17, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
Only four riders on friday??
Go Join!!
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 17, 2016, 01:05:16 PM
Nick #68
Nicked-It Racing Skins (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ufv2l1if0u2doov/AAB4PvmLEnGCQHu9v241ou5oa?dl=0)
Lid is Shoeï X-Spirit II
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 17, 2016, 09:29:34 PM
Skins to follow??? Hope that dont mean your riding naked at the mo!!!

Riding without leathers will be an immediate ban for life from the server!!! LOL

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 17, 2016, 10:47:50 PM
LOL :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Harrytmj66 on June 18, 2016, 08:46:55 AM
Wish i was joining you guys  >:(

I don't finish work until about 11pm so i will join you in round 2
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 18, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Post updated with Skins  (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3487.msg59014#msg59014)

Thankee
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Hawk on June 18, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Hawk #7

Bike Paint: HGP Hawk_UK Rookies Cup
Helmet: Shark Race-R Pro/Hawk_UK Helmet #7
Leather: HGP Hawk #7

All paints are "in-game" names as requested.


Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Demitsuri on June 18, 2016, 03:53:12 PM
Demitsuri #93 i'm in. No skin. Thank you.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Thecrivi28 on June 19, 2016, 07:54:52 AM
#28 Thecrivi28

Bike Paint: DERBI_GP80_YELLOW
Helmet: Thecrivi28.pnt
Leather: Thecrivi28.pnt
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 08:26:32 AM
CRIVI I can not find your helmet paint m8. You need to say which helmet type too but I looked in all so can you give an download link for it pls

Thanx bro

DD

I can NOT find the bloody RED and YELLOW DERBI paints in mine!!!!! HELP lol
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
Heres the LITTLE paints pack.............cant find the DERBI red and yellow still???

PAINT PACK DOWNLOAD:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k2j4ncb7u14zukm/Mantorp%20GP80%20Race%20Paints.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k2j4ncb7u14zukm/Mantorp%20GP80%20Race%20Paints.rar?dl=0)

Is anyone actually racing lol???

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Hawk on June 19, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
Heres the LITTLE paints pack.............cant find the DERBI red and yellow still???

PAINT PACK DOWNLOAD:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/boooue9a7m7faav/Mantorp%20GP80%20Race%20Paints.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/boooue9a7m7faav/Mantorp%20GP80%20Race%20Paints.rar?dl=0)

Is anyone actually racing lol???

DD

You've put my helmet paint in the default helmet folder? It should be in the "Shark Race-R Pro" helmet paint folder as I stated in my post quoted below.... What are you like DD. LOL!  ;D

Quote from: Hawk on June 18, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Hawk #7

Bike Paint: HGP Hawk_UK Rookies Cup
Helmet: Shark Race-R Pro/Hawk_UK Helmet #7
Leather: HGP Hawk #7

All paints are "in-game" names as requested.

Edit: You haven't included my leathers paint either.  :P ;D
Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 19, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
how do these bikes compare to the S80's? anybody tried?
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:37:07 PM
Been a bad day sorry guys

Doing it now

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Hawk on June 19, 2016, 05:40:59 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:37:07 PM
Been a bad day sorry guys

Doing it now

DD

No worries mate... Thanks DD.  ;) 8)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:45:07 PM
Sorted but dont know why I cant get the bloody DERBI pnt files????? YES I downloaded the bike again and still no yellow bike like to start with????

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Hawk on June 19, 2016, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:45:07 PM
Sorted but dont know why I cant get the bloody DERBI pnt files????? YES I downloaded the bike again and still no yellow bike like to start with????

DD

I don't know why DD...... Was it updated from original release?

I just use the 125 paints I had, it's the same model.  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 05:49:47 PM
yellow bike its metrakitPreGp125 skin
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 19, 2016, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 19, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
how do these bikes compare to the S80's? anybody tried?

Good idea BoB not tried myself - if you do let us know I like them S80's.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
Thats why I asked for the in game name!!! fucking looked for hours and re downloaded 3 times thinking it was me and it was the name being written wrong!!!

Too late now and most should have it: People need to read what is posted and not just be ignorant to instructions on how to post something, there is a reason for it.

DD

Until the new version is released it cant be judged against S80 really.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 19, 2016, 05:59:02 PM
Whyzat then?
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 06:11:48 PM
#8 Loopateli

Bike Paint: Derbi_GP80_Loopateli ( https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjo8ligpv3x7zyn/LOOPATELI.pnt?dl=0 )
Helmet: Dani Pedrosa 215
Leather: Dani Pedrosa 2015
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 19, 2016, 06:13:30 PM
 what about for real? in general, are these bikes similar?
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 19, 2016, 05:59:02 PM
Whyzat then?

Because the GP80 is not finished you plonka lol

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 19, 2016, 06:13:30 PM
what about for real? in general, are these bikes similar?

S80 Japanese Class...125GP Frame Motocross 85cc engine

GP80 Spanish Class....125GP Frame Street engine ( Minarelli Am6, Derbi E3-E2, Honda Nsr80 )
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 19, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
how do these bikes compare to the S80's? anybody tried?

Its possible......... bikes are similar concept but different solutions... 80Gp and S80 can race in the same race, its a good idea
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 19, 2016, 08:15:32 PM
Was having a great Race in 2nd till lap 17 then game crash to desktop.

Such a shame as I was enjoying trying to stay fast enough to keep Jorge at Bay I could see him closing every lap.

Bloody game lol  :(

Well done to all anyway and thanks for hosting and Livestream DD. Next time.....
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 08:30:03 PM
Woow Napalm sorry about that....Every lap catch you.... and when i loose your reference i think that was a stupid core!... good luck for next time...
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Blackheart on June 19, 2016, 08:30:16 PM
I apologize but I have completely forgotten the race  :-[

That Project Car discussion has distracted me!  :-\
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 19, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
Congrats to podiums guys and thanks to all for the race. Thanks to Jorge for asking for it. Hope I was okay as it was my first hosting a race.

(http://iasystems.tk/pics/gpb/Capture.JPG)

If you want a replay let me know. I am running low on online storage at mo lol

Here be the stream as I was not going to do one but Jorge asked as he had posted about it.

https://www.youtube.com/v/-3L08lkskaI

Sorry but I was not prepared for it lol. Had to put me pants on quickish lol

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 19, 2016, 09:43:59 PM
Nice video Ias!
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 19, 2016, 11:42:39 PM
Yeh I always enjoy watching them especially when I core out and I can see what happened! Keep it up DD they are fun.

When I came on my audio was bad kept going quiet mid sentence couldn't work out wtf I was dribbling on about :( lol

Fun bike Jorge and team! No crashes for me either that race (very unusual), I sure enjoy the sticky front tyre  ;)
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Harrytmj66 on June 20, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
Looked great fun. Where is the next race going to be? hope i can join this time
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Boerenlater on June 20, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Harrytmj66 on June 20, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
Looked great fun. Where is the next race going to be? hope i can join this time
Not 80cc but 420 more ;)
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3478.0
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 10:35:33 AM
The next race will be mixed 80 bikes so S80 and GP80 2st and 4st also maybe?

I am going to download a load of tracks for testing to see what is best for these bikes so racing is more fun and closer.

I will only use NDS tracks and those that look good and have good replay cams for live streaming.

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 20, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
Maybe. It will only be nice if the bikes are even to race because humongs will only choose the fastest bike. Let's hope they make a good race. If I get some time I will test them against each other at Mantorp to compare lap times.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 10:47:13 AM
From what I got from riding the GP80 it is pretty close to the S80. The GP80 will be updated this week with luck so we need to wait for the update as 1st person is being fixed too.

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 20, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
s80 have more power than gp80...
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
we can test and see. I will set server 6 up for small bikes anyways

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 20, 2016, 11:19:28 AM
Nice I was gonna ask you for that setup. Now me and Emma can play.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 20, 2016, 12:18:06 PM
Server MIA
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
I was testing kart and scooter tracks, sorry but all are far too small for anyone wanting to learn online which is part of the reason for the server and they are too tight to really enjoy. For racing it would mean many crashes and that is no fun for others.

I have put up Tsukuba V1.2 as it is small, simple but fun. It is not NDS but seems stable even offline so maybe okay to use. It is bumpy but thats some tracks IRL.

Its just to see what folks think.

I personally want a small bike race on Imola as it is fun with these but most dont like long tracks, funny as Moto3 uses same tracks as MotoGP and I thought GPB was about realism!!!

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: Napalm Nick on June 20, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
Had a few laps with each. Each lap could be improved but same settings on each as close as possible and a few laps to get the general overview.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/w8pd2w.jpg)

Pretty much as suspected. Also:
Add to that the S80s use a lot less fuel (1/3rd) and the advantage that will give for fuel load
The S80s use correct grip levels but the bikes are still very good

So as they stand not much point racing them together  ;)

PS: I have no issue with long tracks for the 80s.  Imola/Monza whatever bring it on! Getting these things round fast takes a special style and skill probably more precise than the bigger bikes. Big 4 strokes pffff borrring lol.
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 01:15:28 PM
Thanks for the info Nick. I think we should still wait and see what the guys do with the new release and if folks only ride the faster bike its up to them. The challenge is in the riding skill speed alone aint the winner. I know many will comment but who cares it just for fun.

Might help the guys sort out the GP80 if they can test against the S80 too.

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: LOOPATELI on June 20, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
have you tried zuera?
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 02:25:45 PM
Yes Loopa and I will not use it for bikes m8 sorry it is too tight to be fun and the server is for bikes not scooters and karts sorry

DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 21, 2016, 01:14:46 AM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on June 20, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
I was testing kart and scooter tracks, sorry but all are far too small for anyone wanting to learn online which is part of the reason for the server and they are too tight to really enjoy. For racing it would mean many crashes and that is no fun for others.

I have put up Tsukuba V1.2 as it is small, simple but fun. It is not NDS but seems stable even offline so maybe okay to use. It is bumpy but thats some tracks IRL.

Its just to see what folks think.

I personally want a small bike race on Imola as it is fun with these but most dont like long tracks, funny as Moto3 uses same tracks as MotoGP and I thought GPB was about realism!!!

DD

Hi mate

This bike are dessigned for small tracks, here in the game and in reallity...this bikes have only 28hp in the best condition... (normally 23hp, whit a lot hours of hand made work)...28 hp in 80cc its a engine of 40 min...all engine will be need repair after 40 min...its so close than a prototype engine but whit a production base.
I mean, this bikes its for kids, whit 40kg of wheight...and twelve years old max...the reaction and the inertia of the engine and bike its fast for smalls tracks, trust me...here in spain we know about little bikes, its a culture here, and never see a similar bike on a long track...maybe albacete on territorial championship...cheste..jerez...becouse whit 12 years old kids on bike...even so the bike not good feeling in those layouts....Meyer can say about little bikes, he knows to perfection this engines...he was a rider on 125cc class and he know the spain bikes becouse he make some races on spain...
DD take calm, try to make some laps on scooter tracks, whit 80cc bikes...(althought Tsukuba its a good layout for 80cc) and take feeling.......this bike was developed on small tracks conditions...lonato was the practice track for make this bike....just need take feeling...zuera its a perfect track for this bikes....in a real live zuera its big track for 80cc bikes (look some videos on youtube)...i know this layout,  i`ve gone too many times whit my bike (80 cc 23hp)...and its bigger for 80cc...you compare moto3 bikes whit 80cc bikes but a moto3 bike have 120% more of powerfull than a 80cc....a difference of 4hp its big.....40hp its another bike...cant be compared....

Thanks so much, regards DD
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: JorgeNsr on June 21, 2016, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 20, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
Had a few laps with each. Each lap could be improved but same settings on each as close as possible and a few laps to get the general overview.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/w8pd2w.jpg)

Pretty much as suspected. Also:
Add to that the S80s use a lot less fuel (1/3rd) and the advantage that will give for fuel load
The S80s use correct grip levels but the bikes are still very good

So as they stand not much point racing them together  ;)

PS: I have no issue with long tracks for the 80s.  Imola/Monza whatever bring it on! Getting these things round fast takes a special style and skill probably more precise than the bigger bikes. Big 4 strokes pffff borrring lol.

S80 use a lot power...i think...not real
Title: Re: Beta 8 - GP80 - "Bernat Martinez 76 Cup Race"
Post by: doubledragoncc on June 21, 2016, 08:05:19 AM
Hi Jorge I know what you mean m8. I spent hours riding ALL the scooter tracks and sorry but they are impossible to use for someone to learn GPB to start with. YOU and others have learned how to ride in GPB others have not so from that aspect it a no because the tracks are TOOO tight and twisty to learn on. This is a BIKE sim not a scooter or kids bike sim. ALL those tracks a too short and too twisty they are no fun for me what so ever and to put it bluntly kiddy tracks. TBH I fucking hate them and find them stupid. For a kart okay on 4 wheels with a tighter turning circle but on a bike it is 1st and 2nd gear then brake all the time its so slow and no high speed most of the time. 

I joined GPB for BIKES and even the small GP80 is perfectly fine to ride on the larger tracks it is just most of you dont have the patience for such long laps. In real life the Moto3 is held on ALL the big tracks and its fun and a challenge. THAT is the way we should use GPB, Mantorp and Croft are fine and there is Norisring and a few others too that are well suited for the GP80.

That being said I do not want these terrible kiddy tracks taking space on the servers but if you can make a decision as to a specific track I will make a server for it.

DD