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Title: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: zuco1989 on July 01, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
I dont know how many of you were applying (those who read a book) this in real world but I have improved my riding. Some will disagree but I speak from my point of view.

I would like to implement this counter steering because this is what kick my riding skills two levels up, after understanding that I started do do fast flicks even on road especially when you have to react fast.
Throttle control, loose on the bars all that bring riding on hole different level.

So I would recommend to read this part 2 because part one is not that into technology of riding:
https://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Vol-High-Performance-Motorcycle/dp/0965045021
I am sure that you will be able to find this book in pdf

Playing the game last few months everything was excellent except I didnt manage to get that feeling for counter steering.

Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: HornetMaX on July 01, 2016, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: zuco1989 on July 01, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
Playing the game last few months everything was excellent except I didnt manage to get that feeling for counter steering.
Because the games counter-steers for you: go straight then lean (the bike) right and what what your handlebars do as soon as you start leaning right.
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: mst on July 07, 2016, 05:38:35 AM
Quote from: zuco1989 on July 01, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
Playing the game last few months everything was excellent except I didnt manage to get that feeling for counter steering.

I have "pseudo" counter-steering working with my Logitech racing wheel.

I setup the wheel so turning the wheel right, leans the bike left.

With my hands at "ten & two" on the wheel, it almost feels like a real motorcycle's bars counter steering  :)

Btw, I don't find anything "controversial" in TOTW
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: grimm on July 07, 2016, 02:14:26 PM
TOTW and Proficient Motorcycling were my two "go to" books for many years when I first started riding the street. Since then I suggest them both to those that are seeking to become, or improve upon themselves as riders. Some people don't really like Keith Code, but I personally think he's a zero frills, strait to the point kind of guy (much like myself) and gets into the raw and gritty of how a bike works in a way that isn't just science on a chalk board, he actually gives real world example of how the bike reacts and how YOU react until further training can iron out the kinks in your behavior.
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: HornetMaX on July 07, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
Ditto. The ones that are arguing against TOTW are the ones that have no clue about how bikes work.
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: passerBy on April 05, 2017, 06:56:18 AM
That's why I think the direct steering mode needs more publicity (and a separate UI option). Many people don't even realize GPB supports proper counter-steering.

@OP and mst, did you guys found how to enable the direct steering mode? If not, I can help you with that.
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: Vini on April 05, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: passerBy on April 05, 2017, 06:56:18 AMMany people don't even realize GPB supports proper counter-steering.
Maybe but regardless, the problem is that there is no controller that supports proper counter-steering so direct-steer is a bit pointless atm.
Title: Re: controversial book "twist of the wrist 2"
Post by: passerBy on April 05, 2017, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: vini97 on April 05, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: passerBy on April 05, 2017, 06:56:18 AMMany people don't even realize GPB supports proper counter-steering.
Maybe but regardless, the problem is that there is no controller that supports proper counter-steering so direct-steer is a bit pointless atm.
Well, you could say the same about almost any sim/controller situation out there. For example, it's not like a typical Thrustmaster joystick is a good representation of a helicopter's cyclic. Still, it does the job relatively well.

I use a G27 with the GPB's mode directsteer=2. More than satisfied with the result. At least it feels much better than telling the AI what bike angle I want, and I do have to work the steering to achieve and maintain the lean.