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Title: Monza
Post by: PiBoSo on October 29, 2016, 09:30:33 PM
Today I saw the news about the free pCars version with Pagani cars.
I decided to give it a go, just to check out the graphics.
Did a few laps at Monza with the "sim" physics, at a ( slow ) pace of around 1:55, using the least powerful road car.
For sake of comparison, I then started WRS and did a few laps with the GT car at the Monza mod.
I was shocked to find out that I was lapping at a pace over 2:10  :o
Panic mode! What is wrong? Could pCars be uber-arcade? Let me check the real GT3 laptimes... No, they are under 1:50
Then there must be something terribly wrong in the WRS GT car!  :(
I fired up a YT video of a lap of a GT car with on-screen telemetry for a side-by-side comparison with a WRS replay.
Everything seems roughly correct: top speed, corner speed, braking points, ...
But then the clouds open up when I realize that the straights look awfully longer in WRS...
I open the track with TrackEd and in shock and horror I discover that the track is 7 ( seven! ) KM long!!!  >:(
Who did this? Why? Isn't it possible to have a proper Monza?  :'(


P.S.
For the record, the real track is 5.8 km long.
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 29, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on October 29, 2016, 09:30:33 PM
Why? Isn't it possible to have a proper Monza?  :'(

Add one!!?  ;)
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: Blackheart on October 29, 2016, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on October 29, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on October 29, 2016, 09:30:33 PM
Why? Isn't it possible to have a proper Monza?  :'(

Add one!!?  ;)

Its a good idea, I love Monza, but also the asphalts textures are ugly for ride in 1p view, and Victoria for me its the best track in gpb for quality.

Any chance for a Piboso's version of this track?  :P
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: PiBoSo on October 29, 2016, 11:15:55 PM
It's probably better to not make an official version, for two reasons:
1) it's not a GP motorcycles track
2) It's still in the F1 calendar, and Bernie means troubles
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: BozoCRO on October 30, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
There was once a realistic version of Monza, but there was no way in hell to reach realistic top speeds, so someone made the straights longer  ;D

If I remember correctly Murasama could barely reach 300 km/h on the "realistic" version.
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: PiBoSo on October 30, 2016, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: BozoCRO on October 30, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
There was once a realistic version of Monza, but there was no way in hell to reach realistic top speeds, so someone made the straights longer  ;D

If I remember correctly Murasama could barely reach 300 km/h on the "realistic" version.

(http://rs479.pbsrc.com/albums/rr154/EpIcFaIl11/facepalm.jpg~c200)
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: Blackheart on October 30, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: BozoCRO on October 30, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
There was once a realistic version of Monza, but there was no way in hell to reach realistic top speeds, so someone made the straights longer  ;D

If I remember correctly Murasama could barely reach 300 km/h on the "realistic" version.

Sounds strange... the real Monza straight is long 1194m...  :P
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: janaucarre on October 30, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Hi, i will give some changes if i find original files,  sorry for the wrong length but i prefered the right width than the right length
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: janaucarre on October 30, 2016, 08:54:23 PM
All the tracks i convert are with permission from modders, the problem is that every conversion needs a complete rebuild of the asphalt and, to not having many holes, the borders and the kerbs need to.
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: BOBR6 84 on October 30, 2016, 09:43:56 PM
you did a good job on monza janau! good track, feels right with the curbs and everything...  ;) don't understand why laptimes are an issue with unfinished beta bike physics?
Title: Re: Monza
Post by: HornetMaX on October 31, 2016, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on October 30, 2016, 09:43:56 PM
you did a good job on monza janau! good track, feels right with the curbs and everything...  ;) don't understand why laptimes are an issue with unfinished beta bike physics?
Us, PiBoSo said the track length is way off compared to the real track, so ...