Someone playing GB-Bikes on a laptop and can tell me his hardware?
i´m thinking to invest in a laptop besides the desktop i am using.
Using an older laptop (its not a gaming laptop and uses shared memory for graphics) for development of the CBR1000 engines but can only play in reduced window size and all graphic on low on this one. Even with that setting i have stutter in framerates.
Don´t want to buy a new one but there must be used systems which can suit my needs.
Or is it possible to remove the landscape and play on track only?
if you're interested in a specific laptop link me the page of the shop and i'll tell you what's the best laptop
Quote from: C21 on December 30, 2013, 09:18:24 AM
Don´t want to buy a new one but there must be used systems which can suit my needs.
HP pavilon, i3, 512 nvidia, win7, 4 giga. I play gpb at full details but
but
- I dont' play online
- there isn't antivrus running in background
- there aren't bullshits running in background
MacBook Pro (shame on me ::)), i5 @2,5GHz, Intel HD4000 512MB, 4GB RAM, W7 Pro.
-3D Grass is disabled (but works)
-4x AA (x8 & x16 seem to do nothing on my laptop but work on my desktop)
-30FPS Mini (including online)
-Avast, Spotify & Skype running
-Other programs, such as Chrome closed or limited to a simple task (ex: 1 tab in Chrome)
Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 30, 2013, 06:25:01 PM
MacBook Pro (shame on me ::)), i5 @2,5GHz, Intel HD4000 512MB, 4GB RAM, W7 Pro.
-3D Grass is disabled (but works)
-4x AA (x8 & x16 seem to do nothing on my laptop but work on my desktop)
-30FPS Mini (including online)
-Avast, Spotify & Skype running
-Other programs, such as Chrome closed or limited to a simple task (ex: 1 tab in Chrome)
I play on a MacBook Pro too :p 2012 MacBook i7: texture high, no anti aliasing (exept for nice screenshots, but replay is verrrry slow), everyting high, 3D grass,... PiBoSo should make an OSX version of GP Bikes ;D
Quote from: Arvoss on December 30, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
I play on a MacBook Pro too :p 2012 MacBook i7: texture high, no anti aliasing (exept for nice screenshots, but replay is verrrry slow), everyting high, 3D grass,... PiBoSo should make an OSX version of GP Bikes ;D
in fact he planned a osx and linux version
Quote from: Alby46 on December 30, 2013, 08:16:44 PM
Quote from: Arvoss on December 30, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
I play on a MacBook Pro too :p 2012 MacBook i7: texture high, no anti aliasing (exept for nice screenshots, but replay is verrrry slow), everyting high, 3D grass,... PiBoSo should make an OSX version of GP Bikes ;D
in fact he planned a osx and linux version
Nice! :D No more core.EXE :p
You Apple fanboys (one day I'll stop insulting you, just not yet :) ), are you using Wine or Bootcamp/Parallels ?
Guess it's not Wine for Ricco (as he said Win7).
Interesting info that an Intel HD4000 is more or less enough for GPB.
BTW, you both forgot a minor information: the resolution you play at ... ::)
MaX.
I (also) play on a Macbook Pro Retina with 1920x1200 (I will try 2880x1440)
* 3D grass enabled
* 4x AA
* Texture high
* everything else to high
(also with 3dsmax open and Chrome with more than 20 tabs)
Very happy with it for now :D
@HornetMax: Bootcamp. I tried with Parallels, but it is much slower.
Quote from: HornetMaX on December 30, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
You Apple fanboys (one day I'll stop insulting you, just not yet :) ), are you using Wine or Bootcamp/Parallels ?
Guess it's not Wine for Ricco (as he said Win7).
Interesting info that an Intel HD4000 is more or less enough for GPB.
BTW, you both forgot a minor information: the resolution you play at ... ::)
MaX.
Bootcamp since I have only 4GB of RAM (facepalm o_o)... Highest resolution ;)
Quote from: HornetMaX on December 30, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
You Apple fanboys (one day I'll stop insulting you, just not yet :) ), are you using Wine or Bootcamp/Parallels ?
Guess it's not Wine for Ricco (as he said Win7).
Interesting info that an Intel HD4000 is more or less enough for GPB.
BTW, you both forgot a minor information: the resolution you play at ... ::)
MaX.
Intel HD4000 is better than a lot of low cost videocards, and I have to admit that it's ok for "casual" gaming. The only thing i dislike is that videocard memory is shared with the RAM so you loose a lot of it when you play...but with it I play MotoGP13, BF3, F12012, AC (quite low res/details).
My resolution is 1280x800 (fullscreen)
Bootcamp is the only way to play on a Mac, Wine/Parallels/VB are ok just for light software.
EDIT : I forgot to add that all of my settings (except those I talked about before) are in maximum quality. My .ini is also tweaked to get better graphics.
@neoraptor: GPU is HD4000 for you ?
@Arvoss: highest resolution = ?
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on December 30, 2013, 10:57:18 PM
@neoraptor: GPU is HD4000 for you ?
@Arvoss: highest resolution = ?
MaX.
Last item of dropdown menu I think, I'll check tomorrow :p
No, it is a Nvidia GT650M (but I also have the intel one but the switching does not work on Windows)
edit: 2880x1800 runs fine @60fps !
Hmmm ... makes me wanna test GPB on my wife's MBP (i5, HD4000 1GB), but that would lead to immediate divorce ...
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on December 30, 2013, 11:37:08 PM
Hmmm ... makes me wanna test GPB on my wife's MBP (i5, HD4000 1GB), but that would lead to immediate divorce ...
MaX.
lol
Thanks a Lot guys for this really helpfull and interesting informations. Did Not thought that a 4000hd will be enough.
the hd 4000 is really powerful even if it's an integrated gpu, and has great opengl support
Quote from: C21 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks a Lot guys for this really helpfull and interesting informations. Did Not thought that a 4000hd will be enough.
An Nvidia chip is strongly recommended.
yeah but on desktops
Quote from: PiBoSo on December 31, 2013, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: C21 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks a Lot guys for this really helpfull and interesting informations. Did Not thought that a 4000hd will be enough.
An Nvidia chip is strongly recommended.
I agree. Hd4000 has one advantage (power consumption), but a separate gpu is wiser and more futureproof. A 650M or 750M does not seems terribly expensive (unless you buy apple, of course). On laptops of course Alby.
Max.
Quote from: PiBoSo on December 31, 2013, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: C21 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks a Lot guys for this really helpfull and interesting informations. Did Not thought that a 4000hd will be enough.
An Nvidia chip is strongly recommended.
I've noticed that sometimes (I think it's after using the original bikes, but not sure yet) one of ati dll files crashes the game and it wont start untill I move the bikes folder from the gpbikes folder and start the game without it. Then everything works normal again.
Quote from: BozoCRO on December 31, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
Quote from: PiBoSo on December 31, 2013, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: C21 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks a Lot guys for this really helpfull and interesting informations. Did Not thought that a 4000hd will be enough.
An Nvidia chip is strongly recommended.
I've noticed that sometimes (I think it's after using the original bikes, but not sure yet) one of ati dll files crashes the game and it wont start untill I move the bikes folder from the gpbikes folder and start the game without it. Then everything works normal again.
I Use ATI HD6950 Graphics card with no problems at all. :)
Quote from: HornetMaX on December 31, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
I agree. Hd4000 has one advantage (power consumption), but a separate gpu is wiser and more futureproof. A 650M or 750M does not seems terribly expensive (unless you buy apple, of course). On laptops of course Alby.
Max.
yeah i know, my cousin bought a macbook pro with a 650m and is really powerful for being a mobile vga.
GT740M 2GB Ram + i7 4700MQ @2,4Ghz/Turbo3,4Ghz + 4GB DDR3@ 1600
or
GT750M 4GB Ram + i5 4200U @1,6Ghz/Turbo2,6Ghz + 8GB DDR3@ 1333
Both Full HD 1920x1080
Which one??
Faster Graphic card or faster CPU?
Both @the same price.
Used for GPB, FIFA, Skyrim, CAD, inet, business use.
The first one, without hesitation ! The CPU is more than 2x more powerful : 7946 vs 3348 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html) ;)
You can always upgrade the RAM later if you need but 4Gb is already good for today.
Moreover, the difference between the 2 graphic cards is not very important (http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GT-750M-vs-GeForce-GT-740M)
Thank you neo ;)
next choice:
GT740M 2GB Ram + i7 4700MQ @2,4Ghz/Turbo3,4Ghz + 4GB DDR3@ 1600
or
GT750M 2GB Ram + i5 4200M @2,5Ghz/Turbo3,1Ghz + 4GB DDR3@ 1600
or
GTX760M "GB Ram + i5 4200M @2,5Ghz/Turbo3,1Ghz + 4GB DDR3@ 1600
Still the GT740M and i7?? Isn´t the 740 the bottleneck?
You still have a big gap in term of performance between the i5 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4200M+%40+2.50GHz&id=2016) and the i7 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4700MQ+%40+2.40GHz&id=1923).
The i5 base frequency is 2.5Ghz but is Boost frequency is 3.1Ghz. It has 2 real cores (+2 logical)
The i7 base frequency is 2.4Ghz but is Boost frequency is 3.3Ghz. Moreover, it has 4 real cores (+4 logical)
If you take the benchmark score, it is still almost 2x quicker ;)
As said before, the gap between the 740M and 750M is not that big.
I have a 620M, and everything is running @Max settings on GPB, even on 2560x1880 ^^
If you want to have a real performance boost, an SSD would be a wise investment.
It is really much quicker as a standard HDD and everything feels more snappy.
You can buy an aftermarket and put it in your computer as it is less expansive than fitting an OEM one.
Ok. I will think about it and sleep a night before i take my order.
I have an SSD in my desktop and i really love it....damn fast like you said ;)
Sounds wise :D
The only drawback of the i7 is its power consumption (47W vs 37W for the i5).
It may impact a bit the battery life ;)
but but don't consider that benchmark for gp bikes, as gp bikes doesn't support hyper threading , that the i7 has and the i5 not. so , if you only play games, go for the i5 + gt750. if you make 3d models go for i7+gt740 as 3d design programs support ht
Quote from: neoraptor on January 15, 2014, 02:54:46 PM
If you want to have a real performance boost, an SSD would be a wise investment.
It is really much quicker as a standard HDD and everything feels more snappy.
You can buy an aftermarket and put it in your computer as it is less expansive than fitting an OEM one.
I think SSD's are fantastic devices, very quick, but just a word of warning about buying an SSD second hand: SSD's have a set or recommended read/write life cycle, after which there is a real danger of losing any data that is stored on them, so if you have any important data always make regular backups, because when an SSD goes down there is no chance of recovering the data, unlike a HDD. So if your going to buy an SSD I recommend going for a new unit. ;)
Quote from: Hawk_UK on January 15, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
I think SSD's are fantastic devices, very quick, but just a word of warning about buying an SSD second hand: SSD's have a set or recommended read/write life cycle, after which there is a real danger of losing any data that is stored on them, so if you have any important data always make regular backups, because when an SSD goes down there is no chance of recovering the data, unlike a HDD. So if your going to buy an SSD I recommend going for a new unit. ;)
SSDs are must have, even on laptops.
However yes, they do have a limit on write cycles, but the limit is usually huge. You can read here: http://techreport.com/review/25889/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-500tb-update (http://techreport.com/review/25889/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-500tb-update): one drive reported some reallocated sectors after 100TB of writes (this is 140GB per day, every day, for 2 years). The others are still very fine after 500TB (this is 140GB per day, every day, for 10 years).
Also, even when some sectors start to be reallocated, you shouldn't experience data loss: many drives have overprovisioning (some extra space to reallocate bad sectors) and the others should just see their capacity go down.
That said, I'd never buy a second hand ssd given the current prices.
MaX.
Thanks for your suggestions.
It will be a i7 4700MQ - either GT750M or GTX765M.
It costs a bit more than the 740M 64bit but is worth the money (i hope :) )
The GT740M is available in 2 different variants (64bit and 128bit bandwith) and on the Laptop i choosed before only the 64bit is installed which is a big no go and decrease in performance.
Nice article on (high-end) mobile GPUs: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780m-770m-765m,3732.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780m-770m-765m,3732.html)
MaX.
I have just bought a Asus R505cb with an i7 3537U and a GT740M. Will let you guys know how GPbikes will perform on it once i get the time to install it.
Imho it will run smooth at highest settings ;)
ASUS 1225B Win7-64 for travels, based on AMD E-450. All setups on low, but it work!