Anybody recognizing this track?
pictures, videos and all you can get would be very helpful
height test version 3: https://www.mediafire.com/?ifzizc00zv268nd
(http://i43.tinypic.com/331k8pw.jpg)
Edit! This a scratch track!
Yeah, Bugatti - LeMans!!! ;D
hello, here an image from the differents altitude of bugatti le mans:
Un tour/1 lap : 4185 mètres/meters
Montée/rise : 600 meters from 3,5%...to 7% before the Dunlop bridge !
Descente/lowering : 1000 meters at 2%
(http://www.24heuresvelo.fr/images/PHOTO_INTERNET_6.png)
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 17, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
Anybody recognizing this track?
pictures, videos and all you can get would be very helpful
oooh - nice! I like that track and miss it very much here.... maybe a conversion from a famous motorcylce arade game (not stating names here ;) ) would be an option?!
Quote from: Stout Johnson on January 18, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 17, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
Anybody recognizing this track?
pictures, videos and all you can get would be very helpful
oooh - nice! I like that track and miss it very much here.... maybe a conversion from a famous motorcylce arade game (not stating names here ;) ) would be an option?!
you mean a game named after the world championship? :P
Quote from: Alby46 on January 18, 2014, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: Stout Johnson on January 18, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 17, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
Anybody recognizing this track?
pictures, videos and all you can get would be very helpful
oooh - nice! I like that track and miss it very much here.... maybe a conversion from a famous motorcylce arade game (not stating names here ;) ) would be an option?!
you mean a game named after the world championship? :P
yes Sir! ;)
i give an alpha version out to test the heights. i havent been to the track before so please guys give me feedback to the heights. it will be only asphalt and grass :D
Quote from: janaucarre on January 18, 2014, 03:24:15 AM
hello, here an image from the differents altitude of bugatti le mans:
Un tour/1 lap : 4185 mètres/meters
Montée/rise : 600 meters from 3,5%...to 7% before the Dunlop bridge !
Descente/lowering : 1000 meters at 2%
(http://www.24heuresvelo.fr/images/PHOTO_INTERNET_6.png)
i used this height drawing but i dont think its very accurate
https://www.mediafire.com/?7ms27vdchb8k26v
it's a report from a gps on a bicycle, in the past i have found a gps report from a roller race, it was more precision.
Quote from: janaucarre on January 19, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
it's a report from a gps on a bicycle, in the past i have found a gps report from a roller race, it was more precision.
Have you tested it?
has anybody tested it yet?
I've tested it , good to ride and smooth
i will test it this evening.
download in progress.
Don't have much photo of it but there what I got :
straight line from platform
(http://i.imgur.com/kEwJkR6l.jpg)
"S-bleu" chicane from the same platform
(http://i.imgur.com/7tM2Ys7l.jpg)
straight line from pit
(http://i.imgur.com/i6zpoyUl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JR84tkfl.jpg)
pitlane
(http://i.imgur.com/ni3nKIGl.jpg)
i have tested:
The heights, if you use the image i post before, are shifted, the higher point of the track is certainly the passage under dunlop bridge after the curve known as Courbe Dunlop(the brown thing near flag 5 on the image below) The smooth is really good, the width is good i think. Good texture for the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpWh08hKxk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpWh08hKxk0)
http://vimeo.com/76075285 (http://vimeo.com/76075285)
Comments from mairo on motonline forum:
Test effectué : il y a gros de boulot! Les dénivelés ne vont pas du tout, la cassure à gauche avant la chapelle est un peu trop prononcée, le léger gauche dans les chemins aux boeufs n'existe pas, et les lignes droites avant le garage vert et le raccordement sont un peu long à mon goût!
Après, le fait de ne pas avoir les bons dénivelé ça aide pas à avoir les repères, mais il manque du banking dans certains virolos (la chapelle, le premier gauche des esses bleu principalement)....
Test done: big work to do, heights are really not good, the break on the left before La Chapelle is a little bit to much pronounced, the light left turn in Les Chemins aux Boeufs don't exist, and the straight before Le Garage Vert and Le Raccordement are a bit too long.
The fact to don't have the right heights don't help to see the repers, but it lacks banking in some turns( La Chapelle, the first left of Les S Bleus principaly)...
(http://www.simracingdesign.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37868&d=1358564351)
thanks man.
i wondered why the highest point is even in the first corner :D
gonna fix that and release a new height test version asap
alsoplease not that this is only for heights and not for cambering, also i worked with a picture so i dont understand why this straight should be to long..
Quote from: janaucarre on January 19, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
but it lacks banking in some turns( La Chapelle, the first left of Les S Bleus principaly)...
the first right of the S bleus ;). and the banking of "la chapelle" is an invert one.
from what I remember :
I agree with the fact that the highest point of the track is the dunlop bridge, then the track go down to the middle of "la chapelle" , go up to the entry of "le musée", go down to "garage vert", then go up to "le chemin au boeuf". from this chicane to the start line the track is quite flat.
to have a reper for the distance like the rise on 600m until the dunlop bridge, watch the centerline in tracked, for exemple the bridge is at 802.6075 from the start so at 202.6075 the point is 7% lower than at the bridge.
new test version for heights:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ikiyk5ib0o5vuq0
thank you i'll test it now
It becomes really good now. ;D
One or two things:
1:from the start to the beginning of the Ralentisseur Dunlop, it will be more flat, progressive flat, and the real rise begin at the begining of the Ralentisseur Dunlop (i think).
2: the Virage de La Chapelle, you need to go more down until the 1/2 or 2/3 of the curve and after it rise until... an image will be better:
http://imageshack.com/a/img10/6056/0rox.png (http://imageshack.com/a/img10/6056/0rox.png)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/10/0rox.png)
I think the general is good, but the width needs to be broader.
the length appears a bit short, but with a bigger width it will be ok.
I don't know how do you make your track, but here a video has been a reveletion for me this week-end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUkzGzw3lXI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUkzGzw3lXI)
after that you can add a guideline for each curves and if you need each parts of each curves.
Good luck, it's good.
height test 3:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ifzizc00zv268nd
Quote from: Tiego on January 19, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on January 19, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
but it lacks banking in some turns( La Chapelle, the first left of Les S Bleus principaly)...
the first right of the S bleus ;). and the banking of "la chapelle" is an invert one.
from what I remember :
I agree with the fact that the highest point of the track is the dunlop bridge, then the track go down to the middle of "la chapelle" , go up to the entry of "le musée", go down to "garage vert", then go up to "le chemin au boeuf". from this chicane to the start line the track is quite flat.
Thanks for the correction Tiego ;)
LauZzZn, you are on the good way!
But still some changes to do :
As say Tiego, "then the track go down to the middle of "la chapelle" , go up to the entry of "le musée", go down to "garage vert", then go up to "le chemin au boeuf". from this chicane to the start line the track is quite flat.". For the moment, between "la Chapelle" and "le Musée", it's to much flat, and there is no turn between those turn (actually, a little left)
Finaly, how many kilometres the track is doing? Normaly, it's 4.185 km.
Good luck and thanks for modding this track!
Ps : sorry for my english, not very good at it ;)
after fixing the last suggestions i got a first kerb done :D
good! is the track larger now?
Quote from: Alby46 on January 22, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
good! is the track larger now?
4208m.. i hope that okay. but i think i need to start again :D did some mistakes
sorry, i used the wrong word... i meant if it's wider now
Quote from: Alby46 on January 22, 2014, 07:45:51 PM
sorry, i used the wrong word... i meant if it's wider now
i just used the pictures from google earth to do the width
are you using bobs track builder?
Quote from: Alby46 on January 23, 2014, 05:13:00 PM
are you using bobs track builder?
Only for the asphalt. But i think about doing the complete track in btb..
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 23, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
Only for the asphalt. But i think about doing the complete track in btb..
i'm doing too a track on btb, but don't know how to create elevations
Quote from: Alby46 on January 23, 2014, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 23, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
Only for the asphalt. But i think about doing the complete track in btb..
i'm doing too a track on btb, but don't know how to create elevations
if you have made a kml path you can use 3d route builder, otherwise you the views at the bottom, also the points' y-axis
thank you, i'll try to find out some more infos about imola...
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Quote from: LauZzZn on January 23, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Alby46 on January 23, 2014, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 23, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
Only for the asphalt. But i think about doing the complete track in btb..
i'm doing too a track on btb, but don't know how to create elevations
if you have made a kml path you can use 3d route builder, otherwise you the views at the bottom, also the points' y-axis
Regarding 3D Route Builder and height elevations of ground data? Do you know the resolution that 3D Route Builder provides the height elevation data in via google? From my past experience with google height elevation data, it is too low a resolution to be really practical for high detailed environmental modelling were you would be active in a simulation at ground level. Would be quite okay for say a flight simulator while in the air, but for accurate airport, or in this case race track ground elevation data at ground level, the detail is quite sparse, approx 50 meter resolution I believe?
just as note for trackbuilders:
there is plugin for importing terrain directly in 3d max, West-Racing terrain
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLedKiPwxa47nb-6fpDpVTImvOjSd3xA7_ (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLedKiPwxa47nb-6fpDpVTImvOjSd3xA7_)
As Hawk_UK said Google height map is not realy helpful, so you need to find any GPS data, convert it to CSV format and build the track in BOB builder.
and for snapshoting terrain I using SAS planet (http://sasgis.ru/sasplaneta/) on this page downloading start automaticly after 10 seconds
wich allows download huge maps, including with painted path.
https://vimeo.com/72592604 (https://vimeo.com/72592604)
Quote from: Reactive on February 05, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
just as note for trackbuilders:
there is plugin for importing terrain directly in 3d max, West-Racing terrain
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLedKiPwxa47nb-6fpDpVTImvOjSd3xA7_ (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLedKiPwxa47nb-6fpDpVTImvOjSd3xA7_)
As Hawk_UK said Google height map is not realy helpful, so you need to find any GPS data, convert it to CSV format and build the track in BOB builder.
and for snapshoting terrain I using SAS planet (http://sasgis.ru/sasplaneta/) on this page downloading start automaticly after 10 seconds
wich allows download huge maps, including with painted path.
https://vimeo.com/72592604 (https://vimeo.com/72592604)
Very useful source of information indeed! Thanks Reactive! ;) ;D
Lauzzn advance your project ?
Is there any update on the development of this track?
I don't know why this comes to my mind right now *cough* *cough* :D
ehmmmm
Sorry :/ no progress.. Id like to convert several track now, then comes le mans ;)
Quote from: LauZzZn on May 16, 2014, 03:13:36 PM
Sorry :/ no progress.. Id like to convert several track now, then comes le mans ;)
thnx for the reply Lauzzzn, well you are the boss. ;) but nice that this track is still on your agenda. I like this course.
PS: I hope that Motegi, Indy and a short version of Assen are also your list :P
Thank you for this track, great work ;)
Just for information, Noss is converting this track :-\
Quote from: Alibaskins on May 19, 2014, 06:07:24 AM
Just for information, Noss is converting this track :-\
Converting? Which one? There is no good version of bugatti
this will only act as a data collection, as this project is aborted, sorry