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Title: WINNER - Wimp | Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 06, 2017, 05:19:43 pm
Hi guys, here the 2th Hotlap event, the track has been chosen by Wimp (the winner of the first event)

Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 - Autodrom Most
(http://www.fiaetrc.com/images/circuits/Circuit%20layout_most_Track.png)

Rules:

Track: Autodrom Most
Bikes Category: WorldSBK 17
Server: The lap it must be done on the Event Server: IMT - HotLap Event #1 or IMT - HotLap Event #2
Replay: Save the Replay of your best lap (you can found your replays in ...\Documents\PiBoSo\GP Bikes\replays) just the file .rpy is valid for the event
Event Start: Now!
Event End: 20 December (2 weeks)

Just the rider with the best lap will be the winner this time. Need the .rpy file for a valid lap. Good luck and fun at all  :D
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: speedfr on December 06, 2017, 07:54:44 pm
God, that sounds good and fun, i wish i could.
Soon, not now but soon

Anyway, thanks for the initiative.  :)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 06, 2017, 08:29:59 pm
YES, lets go boys!!! :D
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 07, 2017, 12:24:16 am
Learning the track
(https://s18.postimg.org/e1uv0m2vt/Day1.png)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 07, 2017, 09:41:40 am
Are there any prizes for slowest?  I just might give it a shot!  8)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 07, 2017, 11:28:59 am
Haha Luponius, try the track its a fun one, nice flows.

I spun some laps around the track here is what I came up with

(https://s8.postimg.org/u6i8jx66t/most1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 07, 2017, 12:01:45 pm
Cheers, I'll give it a shot later today after work for sure.  Do we just run them on the server and that's it or do we have to save the replays?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 07, 2017, 12:05:17 pm
Save replay
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 07, 2017, 01:40:38 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 07, 2017, 12:01:45 pm
Cheers, I'll give it a shot later today after work for sure.  Do we just run them on the server and that's it or do we have to save the replays?

Cheers.


As Wimp said, need save the replay, its an antilamer. But just for the best lap (at the 2th day is quite difficult hit a really fast lap) anyone can put here the screenshot with the personal best, for fun and make "Challenges" with riders with the same experience.  ;)



Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 07, 2017, 05:59:49 pm
YAY! Fantastic!
I will start tommorow :-D today Im @ work :-(
Anyway I see that hammer is down already...
Great that Most was chosen. It has nice surface and is not as umpy as Franciacorta was
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 07, 2017, 08:32:32 pm
Server Rebooted, issues gone.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 11, 2017, 11:55:42 am
Best I could do was a 1'41, and that's in third person, I couldn't crack 1'45 in cockpit.  Whoever is going faster is clearly hacking and should be eliminated promptly.  Seriously though, HOW?? :P
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: yan24 on December 11, 2017, 04:11:17 pm
my best lap time for now: 1.34.475

Replay: https://mega.nz/#!ZBgFXDib!cNGdmaJbWcWS6XrrNT-QFCHOCjUkUcV4FmIyCgi-VtI
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:40:08 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 11, 2017, 11:55:42 am
Best I could do was a 1'41, and that's in third person, I couldn't crack 1'45 in cockpit.  Whoever is going faster is clearly hacking and should be eliminated promptly.  Seriously though, HOW?? :P


Haha, keep practicing. I suggest to try the bmw s1000rr because to me it feels fairly easy ride and it is also the fastest. I would be glad to help and give some tips but I need to know / see what you are doing "wrong" before I can help :p
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:46:00 pm
Well here is my hotlap for now. It is a fast one but I can maybe improve a tiny bit if I can make the perfect lap. I'm willing to help everyone and give some tips on how to go faster if anyone wants me to :D

Laptime: 1.31.634
Bike: BMW s1000rr
Replay: https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ (https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:17:14 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:46:00 pm
Well here is my hotlap for now. It is a fast one but I can maybe improve a tiny bit if I can make the perfect lap. I'm willing to help everyone and give some tips on how to go faster if anyone wants me to :D

Laptime: 1.31.634
Bike: BMW s1000rr
Link: https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ (https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ)


What controller do you use?
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 05:33:39 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:17:14 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:46:00 pm
Well here is my hotlap for now. It is a fast one but I can maybe improve a tiny bit if I can make the perfect lap. I'm willing to help everyone and give some tips on how to go faster if anyone wants me to :D

Laptime: 1.31.634
Bike: BMW s1000rr
Link: https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ (https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ)


What controller do you use?


xbox360
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:45:05 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 05:33:39 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:17:14 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:46:00 pm
Well here is my hotlap for now. It is a fast one but I can maybe improve a tiny bit if I can make the perfect lap. I'm willing to help everyone and give some tips on how to go faster if anyone wants me to :D

Laptime: 1.31.634
Bike: BMW s1000rr
Link: https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ (https://mega.nz/#F!xcMWAJgT!YAtX-ugH0VjfT1VmNRNnzQ)


What controller do you use?


xbox360


I will need to see video of you doing a 1:31 lap with a standard xbox360 game pad. Given that the xbox360 I have causes the bike to weave from side to side when it just sits on the desk after accelerating up to a given speed you must have gotten a REALLY good one. Either that or you should be hand weaving blankets for molecules because of your extraordinary manual dexterity.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 05:47:07 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:45:05 pm

I will need to see video of you doing a 1:31 lap with a standard xbox360 game pad. Given that the xbox360 I have causes the bike to weave from side to side when it just sits on the desk after accelerating up to a given speed you must have gotten a REALLY good one. Either that or you should be hand weaving blankets for molecules because of your extraordinary manual dexterity.


The replay is in the link I posted with the lap.
Just add some more deadzone to the steering joystick input? My xbox 360 pad is pretty worn out so I use quite a bit of deadzone to keep it from doing things when I don't want it to.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:02:56 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 05:47:07 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 05:45:05 pm

I will need to see video of you doing a 1:31 lap with a standard xbox360 game pad. Given that the xbox360 I have causes the bike to weave from side to side when it just sits on the desk after accelerating up to a given speed you must have gotten a REALLY good one. Either that or you should be hand weaving blankets for molecules because of your extraordinary manual dexterity.


The replay is in the link I posted with the lap.
Just add some more deadzone to the steering joystick input? My xbox 360 pad is pretty worn out so I use quite a bit of deadzone to keep it from doing things when I don't want it to.


I meant video of you manipulating your controller and a 1:31 ish lap.  :D  Widening the dead zone makes the inputs far too violent for my taste resulting in too much lean far too quickly.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: speedfr on December 11, 2017, 06:17:33 pm
Hi everyone,

i'll do as Uberslug, i've been practicing on my side, at first with Mister Kerazo, last week-end, but with my "rig" (Joystick T16 Thrustmaster !!! :-[) i'll never pass under 1:39:xxx that's why i won't come to the Hotlap event until i have made my own handlebar. Try it with a steering wheel but didn't like it at all.
I'll look at your replay as soon as i'm back home.
Thank you guys and Uberslug if you want to practice between newbies unequiped, let me know, i can start a server whenever (in the next 2 hours or so).
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 06:25:07 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:02:56 pm

I meant video of you manipulating your controller and a 1:31 ish lap.  :D  Widening the dead zone makes the inputs far too violent for my taste resulting in too much lean far too quickly.


I mean put the deadzone untill you always go straight when you are giving no input to the steering joystick. That should be the minimum deadzone imo
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:31:00 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 06:25:07 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:02:56 pm

I meant video of you manipulating your controller and a 1:31 ish lap.  :D  Widening the dead zone makes the inputs far too violent for my taste resulting in too much lean far too quickly.


I mean put the deadzone untill you always go straight when you are giving no input to the steering joystick. That should be the minimum deadzone imo


I set the dead zone so there is no directional input when the controller is sitting on the desk. The dead zone values are somewhere between three and ten percent dependent on the controller [1x XBox360, 1x XBox Elite, 2x Thrustmaster GPX].
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 11, 2017, 08:06:36 pm
1.31 is great, here the Blacky's best.

Member: Blackheart
Laptime: 1.33.776
Bike: BMW s1000rr
Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahb0enfiqwgttm5/Most_Blacky_1.33.776.rpy?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahb0enfiqwgttm5/Most_Blacky_1.33.776.rpy?dl=0)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 08:43:59 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:31:00 pm


I set the dead zone so there is no directional input when the controller is sitting on the desk. The dead zone values are somewhere between three and ten percent dependent on the controller [1x XBox360, 1x XBox Elite, 2x Thrustmaster GPX].


Then how do you swerve on the straights? :p
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: BOBR6 84 on December 11, 2017, 09:38:14 pm
Great lap Wimp #97.. think i managed a 34 in the end after some laps.. i aint goin any faster..  :D Track/bike combo is brilliant though, great fun.

using a thrustmaster GPX pad.. same as xbox.

if your going slower than 1:39-40.. you need practice and that is all.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 11, 2017, 10:06:53 pm
U guys are crazy...1.31... WOW ...
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 10:51:50 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 08:43:59 pm
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 06:31:00 pm


I set the dead zone so there is no directional input when the controller is sitting on the desk. The dead zone values are somewhere between three and ten percent dependent on the controller [1x XBox360, 1x XBox Elite, 2x Thrustmaster GPX].


Then how do you swerve on the straights? :p


It is an either / or situation, if I have the dead zone set narrow enough that side to side transitions don't throw me on my arse, the bike weaves going straight. If I set it wide enough to keep the bike going straight when I take my thumb off of the stick the transitions from upright to leaned over and from side to side are so violent I end up on my arse.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 11, 2017, 11:43:28 pm
I had similar issue at the start. Although my bike still wobbles and I struggle most of the time to keep it right I have learned to manage it somehow. Still I watch with my mouth wide open when I see the times of other ppl. I do not try to find any excuse like that I play onboard or I play with game pad. But when I started to play the game I had wrong game pad settings. At this moment I use 35% Direct steering, I have calibrated the game pad and I use small silicon riser on the thumbstick to make the moves more precise. It helps a lot but still my bike is far from the smoothnes that I see on some replays.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 12, 2017, 09:00:32 am
Quote from: uberslug on December 11, 2017, 10:51:50 pm


It is an either / or situation, if I have the dead zone set narrow enough that side to side transitions don't throw me on my arse, the bike weaves going straight. If I set it wide enough to keep the bike going straight when I take my thumb off of the stick the transitions from upright to leaned over and from side to side are so violent I end up on my arse.


Like KG said, try to fiddle around with the direct steering and you can also smooth the input of the lean so that it isn't from nothing to max lean in a very short time. You can make that slower just by adjusting some settings if i recall correctly.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 12, 2017, 11:15:03 am
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 11, 2017, 04:40:08 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 11, 2017, 11:55:42 am
Best I could do was a 1'41, and that's in third person, I couldn't crack 1'45 in cockpit.  Whoever is going faster is clearly hacking and should be eliminated promptly.  Seriously though, HOW?? :P


Haha, keep practicing. I suggest to try the bmw s1000rr because to me it feels fairly easy ride and it is also the fastest. I would be glad to help and give some tips but I need to know / see what you are doing "wrong" before I can help :p


Assume I'm doing everything wrong, that's usually a good place to start with me.  I'll try the BMW, I quite liked it when I rode with it before.  One issue I'm finding is I used to be able to front and rear brake simultaneously which gave me much greater control on the bike and leans but on this current bike if I hit the rear the engine just dies out and I coast like a tomato until I blip it back up and get a nice wiggle on a lucky day.

Another issue is setup, I have no idea what most of the stuff does, the only two things I tend to tweak are the rake (increase it if the bike is super twitchy) and final drive, to soften excessive wheelies and avoid maxing out on top speed, which hasn't happened in a long while.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: connorhall70 on December 12, 2017, 06:00:47 pm
i dont understand how a 1:30 is possible lol.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 12, 2017, 06:04:53 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 12, 2017, 11:15:03 am

Assume I'm doing everything wrong, that's usually a good place to start with me.  I'll try the BMW, I quite liked it when I rode with it before.  One issue I'm finding is I used to be able to front and rear brake simultaneously which gave me much greater control on the bike and leans but on this current bike if I hit the rear the engine just dies out and I coast like a tomato until I blip it back up and get a nice wiggle on a lucky day.

Another issue is setup, I have no idea what most of the stuff does, the only two things I tend to tweak are the rake (increase it if the bike is super twitchy) and final drive, to soften excessive wheelies and avoid maxing out on top speed, which hasn't happened in a long while.


Being able to use front and rear brake simultaniously depends on the bike. I never am able to use the rear brake constantly because I change my engine brake in a way that the bike likes to slide the rear. When it slides the rear it becomes more stable untill a certain point. Ideally I change engine brake untill I just need a slight tap on the rear brake when i start braking so that the rear slides out but its fairly difficult to do so I would not advice practising that right now(also supsension can help with stability under braking but its not that easy to determine what you need from it. On the bmw I increase the rebound in rear and decrease the bump in the rear and also lower springrate but maybe thats just how I like it, for me this makes the bike more stable, less snappy/twitchy).

For now I would advice to not really use the rear brake too much as it doesn't do that much on these bikes( on some the rear brake helps a lot: 500cc gp bikes for example because they have low engine brake). Go quickly down the gears when braking or at least play around with the speed of dropping gears so that you find the most "stable" pattern. Don't be afraid to be hard on the front brake untill you either lose the front or go over the bars. After a while you'll get to know the sweet spot of braking. Ofcourse if you want to go fast you need to have some sort of braking markers on the track, so that you can consistently brake late.

Note: I don't have a gradual rear brake. I just have a button I tap and I added a lot of smoothness in the settings to that button so that it comes more gradually.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 12, 2017, 06:05:48 pm
Quote from: connorhall70 on December 12, 2017, 06:00:47 pm
i dont understand how a 1:30 is possible lol.


1.30 Seems highly unlikely for me. 1.31.2 is about my maximum possible I think. But that would be a perfect lap
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 12, 2017, 06:57:47 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 12, 2017, 06:04:53 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 12, 2017, 11:15:03 am

Assume I'm doing everything wrong, that's usually a good place to start with me.  I'll try the BMW, I quite liked it when I rode with it before.  One issue I'm finding is I used to be able to front and rear brake simultaneously which gave me much greater control on the bike and leans but on this current bike if I hit the rear the engine just dies out and I coast like a tomato until I blip it back up and get a nice wiggle on a lucky day.

Another issue is setup, I have no idea what most of the stuff does, the only two things I tend to tweak are the rake (increase it if the bike is super twitchy) and final drive, to soften excessive wheelies and avoid maxing out on top speed, which hasn't happened in a long while.


Being able to use front and rear brake simultaniously depends on the bike. I never am able to use the rear brake constantly because I change my engine brake in a way that the bike likes to slide the rear. When it slides the rear it becomes more stable untill a certain point. Ideally I change engine brake untill I just need a slight tap on the rear brake when i start braking so that the rear slides out but its fairly difficult to do so I would not advice practising that right now(also supsension can help with stability under braking but its not that easy to determine what you need from it. On the bmw I increase the rebound in rear and decrease the bump in the rear and also lower springrate but maybe thats just how I like it, for me this makes the bike more stable, less snappy/twitchy).

For now I would advice to not really use the rear brake too much as it doesn't do that much on these bikes( on some the rear brake helps a lot: 500cc gp bikes for example because they have low engine brake). Go quickly down the gears when braking or at least play around with the speed of dropping gears so that you find the most "stable" pattern. Don't be afraid to be hard on the front brake untill you either lose the front or go over the bars. After a while you'll get to know the sweet spot of braking. Ofcourse if you want to go fast you need to have some sort of braking markers on the track, so that you can consistently brake late.

Note: I don't have a gradual rear brake. I just have a button I tap and I added a lot of smoothness in the settings to that button so that it comes more gradually.


Cheers on answer, I have my rear brake on right thumb-stick down, the clutch is same stick on up, and then rider lean is left and right but that's automatic and i never bother with it.  I'll look into downloading and checking out your replay maybe i get a better understanding of where to brake and when to turn.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 12, 2017, 07:19:37 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 12, 2017, 06:57:47 pm

Cheers on answer, I have my rear brake on right thumb-stick down, the clutch is same stick on up, and then rider lean is left and right but that's automatic and i never bother with it.  I'll look into downloading and checking out your replay maybe i get a better understanding of where to brake and when to turn.


rear brake on thumb stick isn't bad at all, its propably better but i'm just not used to it so thats why i don't use it.

Hopefully we meet online sometime so that I can maybe give a little bit more specific advice on what to improve/change
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 12, 2017, 10:59:34 pm
I use rear brake very often. I try to learn using it more often in real life but now in gp bikes it helps me a lot to tighten the trajectory as rear brake unlike front one do not make the turn wider. I also have clutch and rear brake in right thumbstick. A slight kick at rear brake helps to keep good line. Today I did my best at 1:40 but with rear SC0 i can drop 2-3 seconds what will be my maximum I think. What Lupo found out and what was a good tip the low direct lean caused slower direction change and in result the lean angle was smaller.

As for bike set up. I strongry recoment small steps. One click by one. Large changes may lead to big bike instability. My current set up of RSV4 is one step harder front spring rear default. Front preload 7 rear 6. Compression front set to 13 @ front and 10 @ rear with both rebound set to 13 clicks. Standard brakes. One grade longer swing arm. Fork rake +1. Standard brakes.

The reason for this set up. Slightly higher front prevents the otb and instability caused by downhifting at hard braking. Longer wheelbase for stability in corners. Harder front suspension to prevent front diving and to smoothen out corner entry.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 13, 2017, 01:46:50 am
@KG13

Not sure that lower "direct lean" settings makes you slower. In this video the lap is a nice 1.33.165 with direct lean at 25%.

https://www.youtube.com/v/LEQyXRoisA4
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: connorhall70 on December 13, 2017, 03:14:53 am
Quote from: KG13 on December 12, 2017, 10:59:34 pm
I use rear brake very often. I try to learn using it more often in real life but now in gp bikes it helps me a lot to tighten the trajectory as rear brake unlike front one do not make the turn wider. I also have clutch and rear brake in right thumbstick. A slight kick at rear brake helps to keep good line. Today I did my best at 1:40 but with rear SC0 i can drop 2-3 seconds what will be my maximum I think. What Lupo found out and what was a good tip the low direct lean caused slower direction change and in result the lean angle was smaller.

As for bike set up. I strongry recoment small steps. One click by one. Large changes may lead to big bike instability. My current set up of RSV4 is one step harder front spring rear default. Front preload 7 rear 6. Compression front set to 13 @ front and 10 @ rear with both rebound set to 13 clicks. Standard brakes. One grade longer swing arm. Fork rake +1. Standard brakes.

The reason for this set up. Slightly higher front prevents the otb and instability caused by downhifting at hard braking. Longer wheelbase for stability in corners. Harder front suspension to prevent front diving and to smoothen out corner entry.



maybe stop messing with setup and just practice lines... i went with stock setup on ducati and did a 1:39 or 1:38 with you today... just need to RAG IT MAATTEEEEE
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Meyer#12 on December 13, 2017, 06:00:14 am
When i had a 10 lap-ish test i managed 1.35's with more or less default setup and probably could go faster and didn't go with SC0. pretty much only gears i changed. So keep practicing guys! the setup is not what will give you 5-10seconds, only practice :) 
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 13, 2017, 07:41:40 am
for me on the bmw s1000rr

Setup changes: TCS - 7, EBS-3 , Antiwheelie - 0, SC0 tyre and gearing changes a bit. I can put in an easy 1.33 with that. Pop in a Superpole tyre and I can do 31's. Its not in the setup ;)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 13, 2017, 10:41:03 am
@Blackheart: Good to know. I still discover things in the game. Do you play with game pad?
@ConnorHall: I set up the bike to fit my preferences and "riding style". Of course on stock bike you can make good lap times. But yeah you know ... if you don't have skills you start to blame set up or bike ;-) . Anyway on stock bike I had too many OTB when hard braking and the rear was sliding all the time I have reduced gears.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 13, 2017, 10:53:14 am
Quote from: KG13 on December 13, 2017, 10:41:03 am
@Blackheart: Good to know. I still discover things in the game. Do you play with game pad?
@ConnorHall: I set up the bike to fit my preferences and "riding style". Of course on stock bike you can make good lap times. But yeah you know ... if you don't have skills you start to blame set up or bike ;-) . Anyway on stock bike I had too many OTB when hard braking and the rear was sliding all the time I have reduced gears.


The 90% of the people here use a gamepad. If I remember well we all use the gpx.  :P
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 13, 2017, 10:58:10 am
I was just asking to have a reference point. Ha! anyway after playing GP Bikes I have improved a lot in MotoGP17 :-D
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: BOBR6 84 on December 13, 2017, 12:38:02 pm
You can carry alot of speed into some of those corners at this track... I started off using 2nd gear trying to get stopped.. But the more laps you put in the more your confidence grows.. Until you start throwing it in using 3rd 4th gear.. Carrying alot more speed.. Then the times start coming down. Practice practice practice  8)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 13, 2017, 03:01:17 pm
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on December 13, 2017, 12:38:02 pm
You can carry alot of speed into some of those corners at this track... I started off using 2nd gear trying to get stopped.. But the more laps you put in the more your confidence grows.. Until you start throwing it in using 3rd 4th gear.. Carrying alot more speed.. Then the times start coming down. Practice practice practice  8)


I agree with this statement, shortshifting and higher gears is not always slower.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 15, 2017, 11:25:56 pm
Well here's a recording of my latest "enlightenment" I just sort of reminded myself to look ahead, flow as much as I can and I managed a '38.  Only caught the last part of it and the next few laps.  What would be some tips one could field?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-rkEAFHjbE

Next time round though I'll remember to stop youtube vids while playing so i can leave the audio in there :x

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: BOBR6 84 on December 15, 2017, 11:35:34 pm
Lol  ;D ;D "sorry"

NP.. (you motherf#+#ing wa##!r!!!!) ahahahahaha  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 12:46:11 am
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on December 15, 2017, 11:35:34 pm
Lol  ;D ;D "sorry"

NP.. (you motherf#+#ing wa##!r!!!!) ahahahahaha  ;D ;D


Haha pretty much what I was thinking at that moment, but no point in hard feelings, we all bikers! ;D ;D

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: BOBR6 84 on December 16, 2017, 01:25:42 am
hahaha i know yeah shit happens ;D ;D

Nice riding  ;) keep going you'll only get faster and faster  8)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 16, 2017, 01:35:15 am
Quote from: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 12:46:11 am

Haha pretty much what I was thinking at that moment, but no point in hard feelings, we all bikers! ;D ;D

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?


Maybe too much fov here u see the glitch with the arms  ;D But the lap is very, very good. cz  ;)

Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 01:45:10 am
Quote from: Italian Mod Team on December 16, 2017, 01:35:15 am
Quote from: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 12:46:11 am

Haha pretty much what I was thinking at that moment, but no point in hard feelings, we all bikers! ;D ;D

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?


Maybe too much fov here u see the glitch with the arms  ;D But the lap is very, very good. cz  ;)


Good point might decrease it a bit see if that affects my vision at all or not, and cheers :)
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 16, 2017, 09:58:00 am
Quote from: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 12:46:11 am

Haha pretty much what I was thinking at that moment, but no point in hard feelings, we all bikers! ;D ;D

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?


Sweet Lupo, looking pretty good right now. The main problem i see for you is stability on direction changes on the brakes. With these bikes i have to admit these are pretty unstable on direction changes with the front brakes applied. How I do it is kinda go hard on the brakes under lean angle (as much as possible), because i'm leaning the rear won't steop out or start dancing around as easy. Then when I switch side to side i release the front brake a bit to prevent the rear from lifting and stepping out. Then once i'm leaned to the other side i brake a bit harder again with the front.  The key to late braking and a good line is keeping the bike steady in the switching sides/tipping in points while braking. But the more you practice the easier it gets. Also playing around with where to downshift can also help a lot in stability.
Once you get the stability right, you'll be able to brake later and have a much better/ tighter line. The rest seems pretty good just some small missing apexes but that will improve with practice for sure.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 11:50:55 pm
Quote from: Wimp #97 on December 16, 2017, 09:58:00 am
Quote from: Luponius on December 16, 2017, 12:46:11 am

Haha pretty much what I was thinking at that moment, but no point in hard feelings, we all bikers! ;D ;D

UPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyydp5gvvA (1'36) with my comments, maybe can confirm or amend some?


Sweet Lupo, looking pretty good right now. The main problem i see for you is stability on direction changes on the brakes. With these bikes i have to admit these are pretty unstable on direction changes with the front brakes applied. How I do it is kinda go hard on the brakes under lean angle (as much as possible), because i'm leaning the rear won't steop out or start dancing around as easy. Then when I switch side to side i release the front brake a bit to prevent the rear from lifting and stepping out. Then once i'm leaned to the other side i brake a bit harder again with the front.  The key to late braking and a good line is keeping the bike steady in the switching sides/tipping in points while braking. But the more you practice the easier it gets. Also playing around with where to downshift can also help a lot in stability.
Once you get the stability right, you'll be able to brake later and have a much better/ tighter line. The rest seems pretty good just some small missing apexes but that will improve with practice for sure.


Cheers on the braking tips, I'm definitely still struggling there.  I think I know what you're talking about and it will be worth trying out over the next few weeks.  I have been mucking about so far and am just getting a bit more used to the bike's turning radius and how far I can stretch it without going over the curbing.
Title: Re: Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Italian Mod Team on December 20, 2017, 09:03:39 am
Event concluded!

The winner is Wimp with 1.31 as best lap, congratulation and thx at all riders  ;)



Next official IMT event will be very different, a new bike and will be a race. Have fun, soon new info
Title: Re: WINNER - Wimp | Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: KG_03 on December 20, 2017, 09:16:46 am
Awww damn bcs of broken hdd in my pc i dint even get a chance to improve 🙁 again im light years behind top riders. Maybe next time will be better. I have picked up my pc from service but need to download all the mods.
Title: Re: WINNER - Wimp | Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 20, 2017, 11:21:45 am
oh sheet forgot it was already over... Next event will be a race? :D
Title: Re: WINNER - Wimp | Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Luponius on December 20, 2017, 01:29:04 pm
Congratz Wimp, still mind boggling how you did it.  I was never able to go sub 37 again btw, that 36 was some sort of trance I put myself into just that one time haha :P

And hope the next event comes out soon, they're really fun :)
Title: Re: WINNER - Wimp | Hotlap Event #2 WorldSBK 17 | Autodrom Most
Post by: Wimp #97 on December 20, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
Quote from: Luponius on December 20, 2017, 01:29:04 pm

And hope the next event comes out soon, they're really fun :)


Agreed :D